Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-15 Thread christian
Fedora is generally pretty good about free software, but they make an  
exception for drivers to ensure that their product works on all hardware.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-15 Thread onpon4
Firmware. They make an exception for firmware. Firmware and drivers aren't  
the same thing.


Fedora is only a completely libre system if you add Freed-ora, which is an  
unofficial package provided by the Linux-libre developers that conflicts with  
Fedora's non-libre firmware packages.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-15 Thread onpon4
As mentioned, your card depends on proprietary firmware, and this will not be  
included in Trisquel (that would undermine the whole point of Trisquel's  
existence). The solution is either to do without wireless, or get a new  
wireless card or USB wireless adapter that works with libre software. An easy  
place to shop for libre software friendly hardware is Think Penguin:


https://libre.thinkpenguin.com

Alternatively, you can get the same mini adapter that Think Penguin sells  
from here:


https://tehnoetic.com/tehnoetic-wireless-adapter-gnu-linux-libre-tet-n150


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-15 Thread shiretoko

- reverse engineer yourself

Please stop giving absurd advices. Obviously, the person who asked the  
question is not technically skilled enough to do so (and I think only a very  
tiny fraction of humankind is).
It's like There is no flight available for your destination? How about  
building your own plane?

People might get the impression that you're making fun of them.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-14 Thread gary02121993

Yeah, when is 7 coming out?! :(


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-14 Thread blade . vp2020

I wait Trisquel 7 official release like water from the sky


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-14 Thread franparpe

Me too, thanks to thinkpenguin now i can use Trisquel in my laptop.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-14 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez Baca

El 14/08/14 a las 06:22, n...@blueyonder.co.uk escibió:
 Does anyone know when the final version is likely to be released?
 A date?
 A month?
 A rough idea?

It will be released when it is ready. What is the hurry? Aren't you
using the prerelease?

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-14 Thread nux

What is the hurry? Aren't you
using the prerelease?

That I am. But I'm looking forward to being able to suspend the machine  
instead of having to power it down.

A small thing I know...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-14 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez Baca

El 14/08/14 a las 12:50, n...@blueyonder.co.uk escibió:
 What is the hurry? Aren't you
 using the prerelease?

 That I am. But I'm looking forward to being able to suspend the
 machine instead of having to power it down.
 A small thing I know...

Not a small thing.

Having it released does not mean the bug will be repaired. The best is
to describe the problem in the appropriate thread if there is one or
create a new one if you are sure there is not one with the same
characteristics as yours. The best is to report it as a bug.

Hope I was helpful.

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-14 Thread tegskywalker

Ubuntu 14.04 came out in April. Its long overdue to release Trisquel 7.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-14 Thread D. A. H.
Given that I, and several others, are running the pre-release, this 
suggests that there are no show-stoppers blocking the release.  Maybe 
I'm mistaken, and there's a blocker?  I'm with Teg on this one.


Teg Skywalker wrote:

Ubuntu 14.04 came out in April. Its long overdue to release Trisquel 7.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-14 Thread legimet . calc
That's not an easy thing to do and requires writing a replacement for the  
nonfree firmware. There is only one project so far that has reverse  
engineered WiFi firmware (OpenFWWF for some Broadcom chips). If someone  
releases a libre replacement firmware for your Realtek chip, you'll be able  
to install it.


Meanwhile, you can get a USB adapter with libre firmware from ThinkPenguin or  
Tehnoetic.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-14 Thread legimet . calc

I checked the driver sources and both require nonfree firmware.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-14 Thread adel . afzal
I noticed that today in the pre-release version.  The computer suspended and  
woke up okay, and then Freemind (mind map program) closed without warning.   
Another time, after suspend and wake-up, the computer restarted without  
warning.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 official release?

2014-08-14 Thread nux
My machine suspends but on resume the screen is frozen. It does not do this  
on Trisquel 6. Or on any other distro. But you're right to say it has no show  
stoppers. On the contrary, it's very good already.


As an aside - within the last few days a Beta has been released for the new  
ElementaryOS. Lots of crash dialogues. Inconsistent theming. (But Suspend  
works OK.) Trisquel 7, although not even released as a Beta, is more stable  
and more consistent visually. Just goes to show - a handful of hot young  
developers and a bounty system doesn't necessarily equal a better product.