Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[greatgnu]

Well, this is linked repeatedly in the wiki docs, it's actually one of the  
first links a user is gonna see when he click on *documentation* -->

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
But yeah, an animation maybe would be nice :P

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[t8mf4nu6lizp]

Great idea.

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[dahunt]

Maybe the new live image should have that folder in Desktop instead of  
Documents?  

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

In Trisquel 7, they are any such document (both in live mode and normal mode)

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

Of course but the wiki isn't in Trisquel live image and not everyone have  
full access to the Internet in 2016. Perhaps we can make an pdf of GNU web  
site and put it on Trisquel OS.


What do you think about that ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

I find so strange that Trisquel OS is a freesoftware that is proud to be 100  
% free (like freedoom) but there are any document or manuel speaking about  
that in Trisquel OS.


It's a bits paradoxal for me. We need to teach people why freesoftware  
mouvement is so important. And the first place for me to find such  
information is in Trisquel OS. (When the user is beginning to use Trisquel)

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[greatgnu]

> What do you think about that ?

I think it certainly wouldn't hurt :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[pinmaritim]

This reminds me of gNewSense deltah with ogg song (if i'm correct)in the  
exemple section:

https://trisquel.info/files/Screenshot1.png

Blag 140 had a full load of bookmarks in a similar way that Abrowser &  
IceCat have Trisquel Forum Donate Wiki FSF GNU bookmarks


Including some exemples of Free Formats & a little guide would certainly be a  
+

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[jason]

Magic Banana is thinking of the version of Trisquel that comes on the FSF's  
membership card not the normal version of Trisquel.

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

You are speaking about this or it's another thing ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[dguthrie]

The card you get when you join FSF. Trisquel membership has nothing to do  
with FSF membership.
 

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[jabjabs]

Having a short video/audio clip with a brief explanation would be fairly cool  
to do. There could be longer form stuff (Stallman speech audio) but best not  
to over do it and clog up the data pipes.


I will look into seeing if I can figure something out video wise but with my  
usual schedule, don't expect much for a long while. Maybe for Trisquel 9? :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[dguthrie]

Audio would probably be only a couple MB.

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

Can you check that for me please ? If they are such document, can you send  
them to me ? 

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

yes ! Can you send me this file please ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

Thanks (You can use framadrop for sharing files)

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

Thanks

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

We can also do a multi-audio video file with images passing by to
explain the basics of the free/libre software movement, since it would
use simple images only, it allows us to use a low frame rate and
**possibly** save disk space.

I have been doing short explanations about the free/libre software
movement in Brazilian Portuguese, in every first video in which I talk
about a new free/libre software in my video series, see

 for an example. I know avconv (from the "libav-tools" package) can make 
multi-audio video files, but I didn't test decreasing frame rates for the video 
track/stream.

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[dguthrie]

The disk images intended for CDs for modern systems are typically around  
600M. When you install, even a simple system is typically around 250M or  
more.
So, I think that the size of files dies not matter so much. As long as they  
are less than 25M I see little problem.

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

I founded them in git repository at  
https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/makeiso/tree/master/files/fsf

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

Yes it's a good idea but which video ?
This video must be have many audio langage and subtitle availble.
I'm looking on GNU web site for this type of video.
I'm also looking on Tedx Website. Usualy there are many subtitle available  
for their video.

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

I maked a bash script that download webs pages from GNU site (and also all  
translations availables for one page) and convert them to pdf. After I group  
them by language and I create a folder for every language and I put the pdf  
files in the right folder. Here the source code :  
https://devel.trisquel.info/hkr/gnutopdf


My idea behind this is to create a set of text about freesoftware available  
in many manguage. And only GNU website and wikipedia are translated in many  
language.

(wikipedia is the next in ma list)

Now I just need to make a collection of text to download (from GNU and  
Wikipedia).

What page is the best ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

For converting page I use this fre software (GPL3)
https://github.com/wkhtmltopdf/wkhtmltopdf

I'm looking for a tool that convert pages by using the CSS (of the page).  
(like this pdf Philosophy of the GNU Project.pdf. I get this by printing from  
firefox (print to file option)) but with wkhtmltopdf I get this pdf  
(Philosophy_of_the_GNU_Project_-_GNU_Project_-_Free_Software_Foundation.en_.pdf).  

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

An example of gnutopdf

./gnutopdf --download list_file.txt gnupdf --pdf

In list_file.txt you can have
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.en.html
https://www.gnu.org/education/edu-resources.en.html
https://www.gnu.org/software/software.en.html


you need to specified in the URL the language
https://www.gnu.org/software/software.html : not ok
https://www.gnu.org/software/software.en.html : OK

All pdf are on gnupdf folder

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

I would recommend **not to** use Wikipedia as primary source. Of course
you can include support for downloading such articles, but please make
the program ask for confirmation when downloading from Wikipedia.

Of course Wikipedia is a great encyclopedia, but the "free software"
related articles there are too "open source"-ish.

More than a matter of "personal opinion", I see another motive for all
free/libre software related explanations/texts/talks to be under
licenses that deny derivative works (including translations, unless
these are authorized/reviewed first), that is related to communication
noise and also removal of important information, and the possibility
that the Wikipedia article gets outdated overtime.

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

Yes of course I agree with you ! Now there are only Gnu web site for texts in  
other languages which are free/libre software related explanations only.

Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas

[universlibre]

ReRTFM to myself ! I can do it with this parameter --print-media-type !