Re: [TROM1] RE RI @ Aarre

2012-12-29 Thread Aarre Peltomaa
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Colleen,
I love you so.
Aarre
p.s.  no run for me until the patroller gets back with his orders.

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Colleen K. Peltomaa
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> Hey, Aarre, yes, it is still off my radar to go into that much detail re 
> mest.  Okay, I am going to re-listen to Dennis' "IP" lectures, thanks  :-)
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Re: [TROM1] Notes RE RI from Aarre and back to Aarre and Colleen

2012-12-29 Thread Paul Tipon

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Hi Aarre and Colleen,

That is why quantity is more important than quality.  If one gets any  
kind of an idea such as you stated, ".. that sounds like a hard go at  
this gradient ..." then one's create will tend towards being less and  
less.  With that less and less tendency, one will then be creating  
less and less of their life, less and less of their living, less and  
less of their space, energy, mass and time.  Someone has to put that  
there and I'm afraid the only one that could ever possibly do that  
for you is you and only you, you only for evermore.


Don't trick yourself into this reduction of life and livingness.   
It's really very easy.  You do it so effortlessly that you also wind  
up doing it even unknowingly every moment as long as there is a you  
part in and of the MEST Universe.  Like Colleen says, unconsciously.   
It is not a matter of work or effort.  That idea comes from one  
having the idea that they are a body or are part of MEST and not a  
Thetan.  Or you might have the idea that it takes 'thinking', lots of  
hard thinking to get things to appear and to happen.  The minute you  
stop doing it the effortless, unknowing way you will no longer have  
anything in the MEST Universe and thereby not even exist here in MEST.


All that is needed here is a cognition, a change in viewpoint, just  
like Colleen had.


Sounds like you continue doing great, Colleen.  Keep TROMming, great  
hearing stories of enlightenment and adventure.  I get expansion,  
more knowledge and understanding just hearing them and thereby being  
able to share and participate in the enlightenment.  Just like the  
cog I had on quantity vs. quality.


On Dec 29, 2012, at 4:00 AM, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org wrote:


Colleen,


Thanks very much;  Don't forget to listen to that IP lecture on  
TIPM again.  We can create MEST by putting up the 4 postulates in  
equilibrium of  complementary and opposing but that sounds like a  
hard go at this gradient,  doesn't it.  That seems like too much  
quality and not enough quantity in my opinion.  Isn't it way too  
much work at our level ?



Aarre

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Colleen K. Peltomaa
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I was listening to a talk by Lester Levenson re "Will", and  
looking at a cooking pot in the kitchen and realized that I am  
creating it -- unconsciously, on an automaticity, and that made a  
shift for me in my RI'ing, and brought to mind that Dennis said  
quantity is more important than quality.


Oh, also, just realized I had dropped having others create things  
too  :-)


cheers!
colleen


Paul, Level 5 in progress
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[TROM1] RE RI @ Aarre

2012-12-29 Thread Colleen K. Peltomaa
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Hey, Aarre, yes, it is still off my radar to go into that much detail re
mest.  Okay, I am going to re-listen to Dennis' "IP" lectures, thanks  :-)

colleen
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