Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 103, Issue 25

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I NOT KNOW!


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Today's Topics:

   1. Manual: mistake (Jurgen Kluft)
   2. Re: Trom Digest, Vol 103, Issue 12 @ Alberto (Paul Tipon)
   3. Re: Trom Digest, Vol 103, Issue 18 (Aarre Peltomaa)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 02:23:01 +
From: Jurgen Kluft 
To: The Resolution of Mind  list 
Subject: [TROM1] Manual: mistake
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Hi Trommers,



I am reading the manual again ( ? again) and on every sentence I let  
the whole thing sink in.


When doing this I came to a possible error and I would like to raise  
this point in the manual that, I think, is a (quite serious) mistake.




It is about a passage in the Chapter ?Theory?:



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The four basic actions of life each have a twin postulate structure:

1.The postulate bringing the effect into existence, and the  
postulate that it shall be known.
2.The postulate taking the effect out of existence, and the  
postulate that it shall be made not-known.
3.The postulate to know the effect and the postulate that it shall  
be made known.
4.The postulate to not-know the effect and the postulate that it  
shall be made not-known.




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The 2nd statement at the end states ?that it shall be made  
not-known?. It is of my understanding that the word ?made? should be  
removed.




Bringing something into existence equals the postulate ?shall be  
made known? or ?make known?.


Taking something out of existence equals the postulate ?shall be  
made not known? or ?make not known?.




We can thus abbreviate the above four points:

1. Make known - Know

2. Make not known - Not know

3. Know - Make known (1. from Other)

4. Not know - Make not known (2. from Other)



And that is correct according to the next bullet list in the manual:

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SELFOTHERS
1. Make known.
2. Make not-known
3. Know.
4. Not-know.Know.
Not-know.
Make known.
Make not-known.

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Can anyone confirm this?



Thank you.





-Jurgen
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:52:16 -0800
From: Paul Tipon 
To: trom@lists.newciv.org
Subject: Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 103, Issue 12 @ Alberto
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Hi Alberto,

This is really great to hear.  Well done.

Paul

On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:00 AM, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org wrote:


Hello to every tromers!



Today i have finished Trom my mind is solved.  I have achieved the
voluntary game condition!  Is a very natural state!  Very simple!
For what I understand is not possible to go in full no game
condition because you have to drop the body!  I chose not do that
at this time I want to participate in clearing the planet as a
field Reiki master and have the planet to be clear for every man
and human!  The paradise on earth is possible now I know!  I can go
in no game condition in any aspect of my life, but I chose not to
do that!  The best is let others to play games as they like and
help them to go free of compulsion to play, if I go in full no game
I go out of the multiversity as a spiritual game player, or joy in
to prime creator!  I can joy in any moment I want but not for
full!  I chose to do the job that is there to be done!  So may this
inspire your work in Trom!  Do very much RI (all and every
difficulty on Trom comes from lack of RI ON Be, do, have, and
applying every type of postulates of the to Know chart positive and
negative!  Do also much RI By touch things and put postulates
together!



This is my experience did the job for me.  I did about 500H of
Trom! and 200 of Reiki self therapy, and 100 of meditation, I was
class IV
auditor and level  III pc!  My life falls all apart during the
process!  Everything fully, and I myself as a being, got on full
total failure, on the ton scale for several times!  I stand up pick
up my head and go to battle again!  I was in the hospital for 1
time, go crazy other one, my mind plaid every game against me at
the end is my best friend!  For me big help was Reiki training, and
at the very end meditation on who am I?  (Bock keys to ultimate
freedom!)



So here 

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 103, Issue 25

[Svoboda Vladimir]

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Yes,   Aarre. Your exellent example is correct when A- be known, B- to know, 
C-be not known, and D-to not know.
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Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 103, Issue 25

[Svoboda Vladimir]

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Yes,   Aarre. Your exellent example is correct when A- be known, B- to know, 
C-be not known, and D-to not know.
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