Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC
FTR Iz, I'm neither RCC nor liberal. God, through His Spirit, is at work in/with both. It'd appear that a time of judgment for your nation is at hand so, do align yourself with God's people whereever you find them. When you close yourself off, through unduly harsh political assessments and, a religious spirit, you may fail to note and, participate in, what God is doing. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 24, 2005 19:38 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC I didnt state it to impress you. I was answering your question. You are free to do as you please, and enjoy yourself. I am free to my own opinion. Let God be the judge. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 3:02 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC You are 'nescient of contemporary literature' (ignorant) and 'one who treats others with condescension' (patronising) when it comes to the RCC. I'm neither impressed with your RCC history nor with whatever your current RCC connections might be. So..I engage the RCC along with its cousin The Orthodox Churches. The content of their faith, JESUS, is as reliable as THE ONE IN WHOM YOU TRUST. As to the so-called reference in Revelation, it has nought to do with the RCC. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 24, 2005 14:04 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC Lance, It seems that this scripture has provoked your RCC spirit, judging from your follow-up posts to me. Ive noticed many times over the years how folks of the RCC persuasion turn rabid against anyone who speaks against the RCC, unlike people of any other faith. I consider that reaction to be completely demonic in spirit. Ive plenty of experience with the RCC, having been raised in such a family, and exposed to many catholics over my lifetime. It was an education to say the least. I have learned to love catholics while hating Catholicism. As I have said in the past, I believe catholics can be saved, but that is in spite of the RCC theological obstacles put in their paths. God overlooks our doctrinal errors, I believe, if we truly trust in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, no matter what our denominational heritage. Personally I am non-denominational, and would never go back to anything else. To answer your question, I dont see how you can read the verses below and see anything other than the RCC. What specifically do you think would not refer to the RCC? Just read the history of the popes and you will see the whoredom. There certainly is no institution on earth that has outdone the RCC in shedding the blood of the martyrs. And why do you think it refers to the city of the seven mountains? Id like to discuss it if you can be calm about it. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:03 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC Linda:I do recollect your mention of an RCC family connection but, I'd be most interest in your demonstration (biblically) that the RCC is the 'whore of revelation'. What with Kevin, Dean, Charles, David, Judy and, yourself ONLY being against things, it is rather difficult to take much of what you say seriously. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 21, 2005 20:05 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC Your opinion is duly noted. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The RCC is the great whore of Revelations. I do not serve the god of the RCC. Iz Revelation 17 1And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 2With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. 3So he carried me away in the
RE: [TruthTalk] Bats and the Blainer connection
You should title that one: “The Democrat”. J iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 12:57 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Bats and the Blainer connection let's talk sin yeh, toxin ties to acetone eyes toluene tears and sulphuric skies exhaust to men manufacturing lies livin' in sin with their alibis & metallic milk & magnetic grins & greasy palms & the smoothest skin overindulgent, suspiciously thin mixin' snakeoil cures w/ political spin On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:11:59 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: rats On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:25:27 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..I don't need a bat..
[TruthTalk] Merry Christmas!
We aren’t “having Christmas” this year, due to having half of our belongings at one house, and half at the other as we move. We never planned for our new home to be finished right before Christmas! So, no tree or decorations. No gifts. No food in the house. Just boxes and pandemonium in the background as we carry on with more important things, like my husband playing percussion for 8 pre-Christmas services, etc. What little bit of family is here joined us for one of the services the other night and then we, plus a few friends, went out to dinner together afterwards. I was not expecting to wake up early this morning to look outside at a layer of wet snow covering the ground and trees—a perfect Christmas gift! After hauling a couple of carloads of boxes to the new house we will dine at the house of friends who always manage to be enormously hospitable in their tiny little house. They have the biggest of hearts. Then we will go together to see the movie Narnia. Christmas comes, ready or not, and you don’t need a tree or presents. It’s all about Him. Have a blessed one! iz
RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC
According to my definition of liberal, you are, indeed. What do YOU call a liberal??? I definitely fill my life with fellow Believers. They aren’t full of “religious spirits” of denominationalism. I’ve been on the crest of the wave of the move of the Holy Spirit since the 1970’s by His mercy, and without knowing anything about the latest cutting-edge intellectual theological books. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 5:12 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC FTR Iz, I'm neither RCC nor liberal. God, through His Spirit, is at work in/with both. It'd appear that a time of judgment for your nation is at hand so, do align yourself with God's people whereever you find them. When you close yourself off, through unduly harsh political assessments and, a religious spirit, you may fail to note and, participate in, what God is doing. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 24, 2005 19:38 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC I didn’t state it to impress you. I was answering your question. You are free to do as you please, and enjoy yourself. I am free to my own opinion. Let God be the judge. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 3:02 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC You are 'nescient of contemporary literature' (ignorant) and 'one who treats others with condescension' (patronising) when it comes to the RCC. I'm neither impressed with your RCC history nor with whatever your current RCC connections might be. So..I engage the RCC along with its cousin The Orthodox Churches. The content of their faith, JESUS, is as reliable as THE ONE IN WHOM YOU TRUST. As to the so-called reference in Revelation, it has nought to do with the RCC. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 24, 2005 14:04 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC Lance, It seems that this scripture has provoked your RCC spirit, judging from your follow-up posts to me. I’ve noticed many times over the years how folks of the RCC persuasion turn rabid against anyone who speaks against the RCC, unlike people of any other faith. I consider that reaction to be completely demonic in spirit. I’ve plenty of experience with the RCC, having been raised in such a family, and exposed to many catholics over my lifetime. It was an education to say the least. I have learned to love catholics while hating Catholicism. As I have said in the past, I believe catholics can be saved, but that is in spite of the RCC theological obstacles put in their paths. God overlooks our doctrinal errors, I believe, if we truly trust in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, no matter what our denominational heritage. Personally I am non-denominational, and would never go back to anything else. To answer your question, I don’t see how you can read the verses below and see anything other than the RCC. What specifically do you think would not refer to the RCC? Just read the history of the popes and you will see the whoredom. There certainly is no institution on earth that has outdone the RCC in shedding the blood of the martyrs. And why do you think it refers to the city of the seven mountains? I’d like to discuss it if you can be calm about it. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:03 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC Linda:I do recollect your mention of an RCC family connection but, I'd be most interest in your demonstration (biblically) that the RCC is the 'whore of revelation'. What with Kevin, Dean, Charles, David, Judy and, yourself ONLY being against things, it is rather difficult to take much of what you say seriously. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 21, 2005 20:05 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC Your opinion is duly noted. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The RCC is the great whore of Revelations. I do not serve the god of the RCC. Iz Revelation 17 1And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 2With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wi
Re: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas!
Please let us know what you think of Narnia. Have a blessed Christmas. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 25, 2005 08:44 Subject: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas! We arent having Christmas this year, due to having half of our belongings at one house, and half at the other as we move. We never planned for our new home to be finished right before Christmas! So, no tree or decorations. No gifts. No food in the house. Just boxes and pandemonium in the background as we carry on with more important things, like my husband playing percussion for 8 pre-Christmas services, etc. What little bit of family is here joined us for one of the services the other night and then we, plus a few friends, went out to dinner together afterwards. I was not expecting to wake up early this morning to look outside at a layer of wet snow covering the ground and treesa perfect Christmas gift! After hauling a couple of carloads of boxes to the new house we will dine at the house of friends who always manage to be enormously hospitable in their tiny little house. They have the biggest of hearts. Then we will go together to see the movie Narnia. Christmas comes, ready or not, and you dont need a tree or presents. Its all about Him. Have a blessed one! iz
Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC
YOUR (Rush Limbaugh's) definition of liberal is of little interest to God, Iz. Whether this 'wave' you're on the crest of is one of your own creation or God's He alone knows. When YOU assign people to boxes, politically/spiritually, you both SOUND and, ARE presumptuous. Cockyness doesn't become you, Iz!. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 25, 2005 08:47 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC According to my definition of liberal, you are, indeed. What do YOU call a liberal??? I definitely fill my life with fellow Believers. They arent full of religious spirits of denominationalism. Ive been on the crest of the wave of the move of the Holy Spirit since the 1970s by His mercy, and without knowing anything about the latest cutting-edge intellectual theological books. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 5:12 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC FTR Iz, I'm neither RCC nor liberal. God, through His Spirit, is at work in/with both. It'd appear that a time of judgment for your nation is at hand so, do align yourself with God's people whereever you find them. When you close yourself off, through unduly harsh political assessments and, a religious spirit, you may fail to note and, participate in, what God is doing. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 24, 2005 19:38 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC I didnt state it to impress you. I was answering your question. You are free to do as you please, and enjoy yourself. I am free to my own opinion. Let God be the judge. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 3:02 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC You are 'nescient of contemporary literature' (ignorant) and 'one who treats others with condescension' (patronising) when it comes to the RCC. I'm neither impressed with your RCC history nor with whatever your current RCC connections might be. So..I engage the RCC along with its cousin The Orthodox Churches. The content of their faith, JESUS, is as reliable as THE ONE IN WHOM YOU TRUST. As to the so-called reference in Revelation, it has nought to do with the RCC. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 24, 2005 14:04 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC Lance, It seems that this scripture has provoked your RCC spirit, judging from your follow-up posts to me. Ive noticed many times over the years how folks of the RCC persuasion turn rabid against anyone who speaks against the RCC, unlike people of any other faith. I consider that reaction to be completely demonic in spirit. Ive plenty of experience with the RCC, having been raised in such a family, and exposed to many catholics over my lifetime. It was an education to say the least. I have learned to love catholics while hating Catholicism. As I have said in the past, I believe catholics can be saved, but that is in spite of the RCC theological obstacles put in their paths. God overlooks our doctrinal errors, I believe, if we truly trust in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, no matter what our denominational heritage. Personally I am non-denominational, and would never go back to anything else. To answer your question, I dont see how you can read the verses below and see anything other than the RCC. What specifically do you think would not refer to the RCC? Just read the history of the popes and you will see the whoredom. There certainly is no institution on earth that has outdone the RCC in shedding the blood of the martyrs. And why do you think it refers to the city of the seven mountains? Id like to discuss it if you can be calm about it. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:03 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC Linda:I do recollect your mention of an RCC family connection but, I'd be most interest in your
Re: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas!
1.) Christ 2.) Mass I think we all know that "Christ" refers to God's Son Jesus. The word "Mass" comes from Old English mæsse, a modification of (assumed) Vulgar Latin messa from the Late Latin missa, literally meaning "dismissal"; as in at the end of a religious service. The Middle English Christemasse, comes from Old English Cristes mæsse, literally, Christ's mass - shortened to "Christ-mas". Meaning the "dismissal" or passing away of Christ; or more directly, the death of Christ. Those who understand a bit about the Catholic religion realize that the "Mass" always refers to the sacrificial death of Christ. The word "Christmas" comes from the Roman Catholic ritual. Folks walk around this time of year saying "Merry Christmas!" to each other. I wonder if it occurs to anyone they are saying "Merry Death of Christ." www.truthontheweb.org/NwsClpz/122405.htm- Maranatha
Re: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas!
Correction Marlin!! It ought to be spoken of as The Catholic Faith. It (the Catholic Faith) is no more 'religion' than that which YOU yourself practice. Do YOU, Marlin, practice 'religion'? - Original Message - From: Marlin halverson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 25, 2005 10:33 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas! 1.) Christ 2.) Mass I think we all know that "Christ" refers to God's Son Jesus. The word "Mass" comes from Old English mæsse, a modification of (assumed) Vulgar Latin messa from the Late Latin missa, literally meaning "dismissal"; as in at the end of a religious service. The Middle English Christemasse, comes from Old English Cristes mæsse, literally, Christ's mass - shortened to "Christ-mas". Meaning the "dismissal" or passing away of Christ; or more directly, the death of Christ. Those who understand a bit about the Catholic religion realize that the "Mass" always refers to the sacrificial death of Christ. The word "Christmas" comes from the Roman Catholic ritual. Folks walk around this time of year saying "Merry Christmas!" to each other. I wonder if it occurs to anyone they are saying "Merry Death of Christ." www.truthontheweb.org/NwsClpz/122405.htm- Maranatha
Re: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas!
I don't think so,Marlin. What some are saying is "Lets get drunk and make an ass of ourselves at the Christmas party". Some are saying, "Diamonds are forever". Others are saying, "More stuff will make me happy". Some kids will get way too much today. Others will get far too little. Very few will spend much of today celebrating the Gift God gave all mankind. Marlin halverson wrote: 1.) Christ 2.) Mass I think we all know that "Christ" refers to God's Son Jesus. The word "Mass" comes from Old English mæsse, a modification of (assumed) Vulgar Latin messa from the Late Latin missa, literally meaning "dismissal"; as in at the end of a religious service. The Middle English Christemasse, comes from Old English Cristes mæsse, literally, Christ's mass - shortened to "Christ-mas". Meaning the "dismissal" or passing away of Christ; or more directly, the death of Christ. Those who understand a bit about the Catholic religion realize that the "Mass" always refers to the sacrificial death of Christ. The word "Christmas" comes from the Roman Catholic ritual. Folks walk around this time of year saying "Merry Christmas!" to each other. I wonder if it occurs to anyone they are saying "Merry Death of Christ." www.truthontheweb.org/NwsClpz/122405.htm - Maranatha
Re: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas!
Hello Marlin. Christmas has a very different definition around our house. I am not one who cares about the history or even the etimology of words and events that have taken on definitions of their own. It is a blessed time of year. We think of and even celebrate the birth of Christ, knowing that His presense was all about emanuel. jd -- Original message -- From: "Marlin halverson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.) Christ 2.) Mass I think we all know that "Christ" refers to God's Son Jesus. The word "Mass" comes from Old English mæsse, a modification of (assumed) Vulgar Latin messa from the Late Latin missa, literally meaning "dismissal"; as in at the end of a religious service. The Middle English Christemasse, comes from Old English Cristes mæsse, literally, Christ's mass - shortened to "Christ-mas". Meaning the "dismissal" or passing away of Christ; or more directly, the death of Christ.. Those who understand a bit about the Catholic religion realize that the "Mass" always refers to the sacrificial death of Christ. The word "Christmas" comes from the Roman Catholic ritual. Folks walk around this time of year saying "Merry Christmas!" to each other. I wonder if it occurs to anyone they are saying "Merry Death of Christ." www.truthontheweb.org/NwsClpz/122405.htm- Maranatha
Re: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas!
I appreciate the distinction you have made between one's "faith" and one's "religion." The Bible does not speak very highly of religion except for that which is pure and undefiled before God. Thanks --Marlin - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas! Correction Marlin!! It ought to be spoken of as The Catholic Faith. It (the Catholic Faith) is no more 'religion' than that which YOU yourself practice. Do YOU, Marlin, practice 'religion'?
Re: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas!
Thanks for sharing Iz and I do pray that all goes smoothly with the move, Our daughter with the kids, dog, hamster, and rabbit arrived about midnight and she was up until the early hours getting their Christmas arranged for them. I am trusting the Lord that it will all come together for us. Right now they are gone to visit one of her school friends who is down with her family and we are here with the animals. I have the \turkey in the oven and will have to do the rest before they return. Thank you JD for reminding me that loving and supporting them is ministry in itself because although we had planned to go we didn't make it to either of the two services this morning. Our little grandaughter with the Leukemia takes a lot of time although she is looking really healthy and is just as sweet as ever. She wears an insulin pump now and so has to have her BS checked all the time and if it is up they give her a bolus. Iz would know what that is. The chemo drug is what gave her the diabetes and they hope this will go away when she is finished with these drugs - Her hair has grown back curly and is really cute although her Dr. said it will straighten out later. We are enjoying them but the house is in an uproar. When they arrived around midnight the dog weed in the kitchen and Jenna slipped on it and insisted on taking a bath so that's how it goes. Oh! the joy of having a young family. I was encouraged to hear Jenna report that she no longer considers Hilary Duff to be a Christian (she's the one who lies just a little bit). Our dinner is at 4 p.m. and the rest of the family will be here then. Our son and his wife went to the early service at Church at they were going to her mothers for dinner at 1 p.m. The Lord is a very real presence and after all - He is the greatest gift. Merry Christmas to all from rainy VA From: ShieldsFamily We arent having Christmas this year, due to having half of our belongings at one house, and half at the other as we move. We never planned for our new home to be finished right before Christmas! So, no tree or decorations. No gifts. No food in the house. Just boxes and pandemonium in the background as we carry on with more important things, like my husband playing percussion for 8 pre-Christmas services, etc. What little bit of family is here joined us for one of the services the other night and then we, plus a few friends, went out to dinner together afterwards. I was not expecting to wake up early this morning to look outside at a layer of wet snow covering the ground and treesa perfect Christmas gift! After hauling a couple of carloads of boxes to the new house we will dine at the house of friends who always manage to be enormously hospitable in their tiny little house. They have the biggest of hearts. Then we will go together to see the movie Narnia. Christmas comes, ready or not, and you dont need a tree or presents. Its all about Him. Have a blessed one! iz
Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC
What makes you so sure that Iz's definition and Rush Limbaughs are one and the same Lance? Rush says he is a Christian but I don't believe he is the same kind as Iz. In fact I think he says his dad was more devoted about it than he. I'm also surprised that you would be talking about boxes - Am I seeing things? Lance the consummate card filer??? On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:26:13 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: YOUR (Rush Limbaugh's) definition of liberal is of little interest to God, Iz. Whether this 'wave' you're on the crest of is one of your own creation or God's He alone knows. When YOU assign people to boxes, politically/spiritually, you both SOUND and, ARE presumptuous. Cockyness doesn't become you, Iz!. From: ShieldsFamily According to my definition of liberal, you are, indeed. What do YOU call a liberal??? I definitely fill my life with fellow Believers. They arent full of religious spirits of denominationalism. Ive been on the crest of the wave of the move of the Holy Spirit since the 1970s by His mercy, and without knowing anything about the latest cutting-edge intellectual theological books. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir FTR Iz, I'm neither RCC nor liberal. God, through His Spirit, is at work in/with both. It'd appear that a time of judgment for your nation is at hand so, do align yourself with God's people whereever you find them. When you close yourself off, through unduly harsh political assessments and, a religious spirit, you may fail to note and, participate in, what God is doing. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 24, 2005 19:38 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC I didnt state it to impress you. I was answering your question. You are free to do as you please, and enjoy yourself. I am free to my own opinion. Let God be the judge. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 3:02 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC You are 'nescient of contemporary literature' (ignorant) and 'one who treats others with condescension' (patronising) when it comes to the RCC. I'm neither impressed with your RCC history nor with whatever your current RCC connections might be. So..I engage the RCC along with its cousin The Orthodox Churches. The content of their faith, JESUS, is as reliable as THE ONE IN WHOM YOU TRUST. As to the so-called reference in Revelation, it has nought to do with the RCC. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 24, 2005 14:04 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC Lance, It seems that this scripture has provoked your RCC spirit, judging from your follow-up posts to me. Ive noticed many times over the years how folks of the RCC persuasion turn rabid against anyone who speaks against the RCC, unlike people of any other faith. I consider that reaction to be completely demonic in spirit. Ive plenty of experience with the RCC, having been raised in such a family, and exposed to many catholics over my lifetime. It was an education to say the least. I have learned to love catholics while hating Catholicism. As I have said in the past, I believe catholics can be saved, but that is in spite of the RCC theological obstacles put in their paths. God overlooks our doctrinal errors, I believe, if we truly trust in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, no matter what our denominational heritage. Personally I am non-denominational, and would never go back to anything else. To answer your question, I dont see how you can read the verses below and see anything other than the RCC. What specifically do you think would not refer to the RCC? Just read the history of the popes and you will see the whoredom. There certainly is no institution on earth that has outdone the RCC in shedding the blood of the martyrs. And why do you think it refers to the city of the seven mountains? Id like to discuss it if you can be calm
Re: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas!
The Smithson kids are going to lead worhsip this evening at church. Maybe I can a picture or two of them and send them to the forum. Anyway -- you all have a great day. We have a very busy day planned from hee on out. G -- I am serious about the bat. My highest regards ar with all of you this day. John -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for sharing Iz and I do pray that all goes smoothly with the move, Our daughter with the kids, dog, hamster, and rabbit arrived about midnight and she was up until the early hours getting their Christmas arranged for them. I am trusting the Lord that it will all come together for us. Right now they are gone to visit one of her school friends who is down with her family and we are here with the animals. I have the \turkey in the oven and will have to do the rest before they return. Thank you JD for reminding me that loving and supporting them is ministry in itself because although we had planned to go we didn't make it to either of the two services this morning. Our little grandaughter with the Leukemia takes a lot of time although she is looking really healthy and is just as sweet as ever. She wears an insulin pump now and so has to have her BS checked all the time and if it is up they give her a bolus. Iz would know what that is. The chemo drug is what gave her the diabetes and they hope this will go away when she is finished with these drugs - Her hair has grown back curly and is really cute although her Dr. said it will straighten out later. We are enjoying them but the house is in an uproar. When they arrived around midnight the dog weed in the kitchen and Jenna slipped on it and insisted on taking a bath so that's how it goes. Oh! the joy of having a young family. I was encouraged to hear Jenna report that she no longer considers Hilary Duff to be a Christian (she's the one who lies just a little bit). Our dinner is at 4 p.m. and the rest of the family will be here then. Our son and his wife went to the early service at Church at they were going to her mothers for dinner at 1 p.m. The Lord is a very real presence and after all - He is the greatest gift. Merry Christmas to all from rainy VA From: ShieldsFamily We arent having Christmas this year, due to having half of our belongings at one house, and half at the other as we move. We never planned for our new home to be finished right before Christmas! So, no tree or decorations. No gifts. No food in the house. Just boxes and pandemonium in the background as we carry on with more important things, like my husband playing percussion for 8 pre-Christmas services, etc. What little bit of family is here joined us for one of the services the other night and then we, plus a few friends, went out to dinner together afterwards. I was not expecting to wake up early this morning to look outside at a layer of wet snow covering the ground and treesa perfect Christmas gift! After hauling a couple of carloads of boxes to the new house we will dine at the house of friends who always manage to be enormously hospitable in their tiny little house. They have the biggest of hearts. Then we will go together to see the movie Narnia. Christmas comes, ready or not, and you dont need a tree or presents. Its all about Him. Have a blessed one! iz
Re: [TruthTalk] Bats and the Blainer connection
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 07:21:33 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: *.. title that one: “The Democrat”. J iz* || let's talk sin *snakeoil cures w/ political spin* ||
Re: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas!
Hi Marlin. Seeing what you have shared, you might like to hear that I preached in our community's Christmas parade this year as I did last year, carrying a cross, the symbol of the death of Jesus the Christ. I had more than 30 people behind me, each one of them carrying crosses too. I walked before them with a Truth Horn and reminded the thousands along the parade route that if it had not been for the cross and the death of Jesus Christ, there would be no Christmas. I urged them not to think of Santa Clause or Jesus as a little cute baby in a manger, but to think about what Jesus was being born to do. He came with a purpose, to die for our sins, your sins and my sins. He was bruised for our iniquities, and the chastisement of our peace was upon him. Believe upon Jesus Christ today. Jesus is the reason for the season. Worship the Lord Jesus Christ today! Merry Christmas! It is a very Merry Christmas when we believe upon Jesus Christ and receive the forgiveness of our sins. Hallelujah! As I preached, the other cross bearers passed out tracts and Bibles. Yes, we should think about the death of Christ at Christmas time, because if it were not for the cross and the need for Jesus to be put to death, nobody would be celebrating Christmas today. Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: Marlin halverson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas! 1.) Christ 2.) Mass I think we all know that "Christ" refers to God's Son Jesus. The word "Mass" comes from Old English mæsse, a modification of (assumed) Vulgar Latin messa from the Late Latin missa, literally meaning "dismissal"; as in at the end of a religious service. The Middle English Christemasse, comes from Old English Cristes mæsse, literally, Christ's mass - shortened to "Christ-mas". Meaning the "dismissal" or passing away of Christ; or more directly, the death of Christ. Those who understand a bit about the Catholic religion realize that the "Mass" always refers to the sacrificial death of Christ. The word "Christmas" comes from the Roman Catholic ritual. Folks walk around this time of year saying "Merry Christmas!" to each other. I wonder if it occurs to anyone they are saying "Merry Death of Christ." www.truthontheweb.org/NwsClpz/122405.htm- Maranatha
Re: [TruthTalk] Who decides
Blainerb: > Just for the record, I believe the Lord was speaking > to his apostles, but was speaking concerning all whom > they taught. That's how I read it too, but I will continue to consider Perry's comments. Blaine wrote: > As Jesus said to Joseph Smith, concerning the Christians > of that day, "They teach for doctrines the commandments > of men, having a form of Godliness, but denying the power > thereof." (Speaking of the power of God to perform miracles) > The problem is, there is an almost universal disbelief in God's > power to perform miraculous acts. Miracles are commonly > reported among Mormon believers--I have experienced a number > of them myself--almost always in connection with work in the church. Miracles are common among many of the Christian communities that operate in faith, but this unfortunately is a minority among all the Christians of the world. Most of the Mormons I have known and spoken to do not have direct experience with miracles. Perhaps you can share some of your testimony with us concerning how God has worked miraculously in your Mormon community. I watched a movie not too long ago about a Mormon missonary named John Groberg whose assignment was Tonga. It was called, "The Other Side of Heaven." Have you seen it? What do you think of it? It seemed a bit skimpy on the kind of miracles that I hear from most Christian missionaries. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
[TruthTalk] [Fwd: atta-boy Canadians]
I killed a buck at sixty yards this afternoon and thought I had done something, then I read this. http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/50calibre/50sniping.htm Sniping with the .50 BMG in Afghanistan New long-distance record set! (The following is from the Canadian newspaper National Post. The shooters were using .50 BMG rifles that had Lilja barrels on them outfitted with Nightforce 5.5-22x NXS scopes.) OTTAWA BLOCKS U.S. EFFORT TO HONOUR OUR SNIPERS: Canadian snipers pose with their 50-calibre rifle at base camp in Kandahar. Five of the men, whose names the military withheld for security reasons, were nominated for Bronze Stars by the U.S. for their prowess in fighting near Gardez. The sixth joined the unit later in the war. Wait due to 'Canadian protocol' A kill from 2,430 metres By Michael Smith and Chris Wattie National Post The United States wants to give two teams of Canadian snipers the Bronze Star, a decoration for bravery, for their work in rooting out Taliban and al-Qaeda holdouts in eastern Afghanistan, but Canadian defence officials put the medals on hold, the National Post has learned. The five snipers spent 19 days fighting alongside the scout platoon of the United States Army's 187th "Rakkasan" brigade last month, clearing out diehard fighters from the mountains near Gardez in eastern Afghanistan. The Americans were so impressed by the Canadian snipers that they recommended them for medals after the battle. Sources told the Post that U.S. General Warren Edwards had already signed the recommendation for five Bronze Stars for the sniper teams, drawn from 3rd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, last month. Gen. Edwards, deputy commanding general of coalition land forces in Afghanistan, had recommended three Canadians for a Bronze Star and two for a Bronze Star with distinction. The night before the troops were to be awarded the medals, about three weeks ago, Canadian military officials in Ottawa put the decorations on hold, according to a U.S. Army source in Afghanistan. The Canadian military told their U.S. counterparts to wait before awarding the medals for reasons of "Canadian protocol." Spokesmen for the Department of National Defence would not comment on the award last night, but a source within the department said the medals are on hold while the military decides whether or not to award the men a similar Canadian decoration. However, Dr. David Bercuson, director of the Centre of Military and Strategic Studies at the University of Calgary, said the real reason for the delay was likely official squeamishness. "Canadians don't kill -- they don't even use the word kill; that's the problem," he said. "I think the military is not sure that the government is prepared to accept the fact, let alone celebrate the fact ... that Canadian soldiers do sometimes end up killing people." Many of the U.S. scouts who worked directly with the Canadian snipers were incensed that the Canadians did not get the Bronze Star, the medal for bravery the U.S. military usually gives foreign soldiers serving alongside its troops. The snipers themselves, all of whom spoke on condition their names not be printed, have said they would prefer to receive a medal from their peers in the field rather than from National Defence Headquarters in Ottawa. Dr. Bercuson said there should be no objection to Canadians receiving a U.S. decoration: As recently as the Gulf War, two Canadian CF-18 pilots were given the Bronze Star. He said the medals would be a badly needed boost to the morale of the almost 900 Canadian soldiers on the ground in Afghanistan, especially after four of their comrades were killed and eight others wounded in last week's friendly fire incident. "Absolutely they should get it," Dr. Bercuson said. "It would be good for the morale of the guys and good for the morale of the whole unit, and they need a morale boost right now." Canadian snipers were reportedly outstanding in the fighting around the mountainous al-Qaeda bastion east of Gardez, code-named Operation Anaconda. The battle pitted the two Canadian sniper teams against an enemy that showered the assaulting coalition troops with mortars and machine-gun fire as soon as they jumped from their helicopters. One member of the team, a corporal from Newfoundland, said on his first night in combat he and his partner got an al-Qaeda machine gun in their sights as it was hailing bullets down on U.S. troops below. Crawling up into a good position, they set up their .50-calibre rifle -- the McMillan Tac-50, a weapon the corporal compares to having superhuman power in your hands. "Firing it feels like someone slashing you on the back of your hockey helmet with a hockey stick." (These are the rifles fitted with Lilja .50 caliber barrels and Nigh
[Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] atta boy Canadians]
Nope. I am not man enough to stand up under the recoil of a fifty caliber machine gun cartridge. I cringe every time I have to sight in one of the African rifles I make for people going on safari for elephant and cape buffalo. Years ago, I fitted a 45/70 barrel to a single shot shotgun frame. It is an old cartridge, being the same one that Custer's troops used. Not a long range cartridge, too slow and too heavy, but I have killed a pile of deer with it over the years, along with several hogs and bobcats. You can see a poor picture of it on my web site, www.cliftoncustomrifles.com Right now, we have the place up for sale. If we get our price, we intend to move to Montana or Wyoming and spend our last days shooting prairie dogs and coyotes. If it doesn't sell, I will still retire in March. I have three varmint guns I want to build for myself when I close the shop. If we stay here, I will spend most of my time reloading and developing more accurate loads for our rifles, and maybe shoot a few crows off the watermelons in early summer. That is about the only long range shooting you can get around here and the farmers welcome you because they have a hard time selling melons with holes pecked through them. I have customers who say they shoot six hundred rounds a day at a good prairie dog town and never seem to put a dent in them. The prairie dogs carry a flea that causes black plague, so they do not want their numbers to get out of hand. 350 yards, by the way, is still a long shot in my book. Terry Charles Perry Locke wrote: Terry, I bet you were not using a .50, were ya? I used to be a varmint hunter...shot a .243 Remington 700. Longest kill - a groundhog at 350yds. Still nothing compared those Canadian snipers,though. Merry Christmas. Perry From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I killed a buck at sixty yards this afternoon and thought I had done something, then I read this. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] atta boy Canadians]
DAVEH: Unless you've experienced the Montana or Wyoming winters, you might want to take a peek at Oregon before making such a major error of judgment, Terry! =-O Terry Clifton wrote: www.cliftoncustomrifles.com Right now, we have the place up for sale. If we get our price, we intend to move to Montana or Wyoming and spend our last days shooting prairie dogs and coyotes. -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Merry Christmas!
DAVEH: When I suggested similar, it brought a lot of chastisement. Why do you suppose the difference? David Miller wrote: .a cross, the symbol of the death of Jesus the Christ. -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
