Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: greetings from ky: long version

2005-07-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
A liberalism!

--- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A perspectivalism!!
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: ShieldsFamily 
>   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
>   Sent: July 22, 2005 09:40
>   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: greetings from ky: long version
> 
> 
>   Ahh, isn't America just wonderful? :-) iz
> 
>
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
>   Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:50 AM
>   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
>   Subject: [TruthTalk] Fw: greetings from ky: long version
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>   - Original Message - 
> 
>   From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>   To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>   Sent: July 20, 2005 21:10
> 
>   Subject: greetings from ky: long version
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>   > We are in the heart of the kind of country where there is a flag
> on every
> 
>   > house or lawn and a bumper sticker on two out of three vehicles
> that reads
> 
>   > "We support our troops." At the tourist bureau in Ohio there was
> a sign on
> 
>   > the door: "It is illegal to carry any firearm, deadly weapon or
> ordnance
> 
>   > on these premises." Leave your cannons at home, folks. Now we're
> in
> 
>   > Kentucky, in the hills; the signs at fast food restaurants are
> all 100
> 
>   > feet high so they can be seen in this very humpy countryside. We
> are
> 
>   > staying in a small but clean and modern motel near the I65, on a
> narrow,
> 
>   > winding rural road, flanked by Aunt Bee's Restaurant and
> overlooking a
> 
>   > large, green, lovely, unkempt, tussocky meadow. We got off the
> highway too
> 
>   > early and in the space of about five miles must have passed no
> less than
> 
>   > 16 or 17 churches on the one country road--Friendship Baptist,
> First
> 
>   > Baptist, Baptist Missionary, New Life Fellowship, New Horizons
> Fellowship,
> 
>   > Church of God of Prophecy, Gospel Assembly, you name it,
> literally one
> 
>   > every quarter mile or so. (There is also a thing about the Ten
> 
>   > Commandments. We have seen them writ large on a billboard and on
> the
> 
>   > window of a storefront church in a small town. "Repent Now" signs
> also
> 
>   > appear here and there.) When we reached the road we wanted, we
> went the
> 
>   > wrong direction first and drove by a farm gate with two boar's
> heads on
> 
>   > it. Real ones. Dorothy, we're not in Ontario anymore. The road is
> very
> 
>   > narrow and winding but paved--what you just don't find in our
> countryside
> 
>   > where all the roads that lead anywhere are wide and follow
> straight along
> 
>   > the surveyors' lines, and only major ones are paved. It feels
> weird.
> 
>   > 
> 
>   > On the other side of the highway from the motel and down a short
> distance
> 
>   > is the sad little town of Horse Cave--we're in the Mammoth Cave
> region--in
> 
>   > which pretty little wooden houses sit cheek by jowl with
> tumbledown
> 
>   > ramshackle ones, and by that I mean houses whose shadowy porches
> still
> 
>   > have  people sitting in swings but which would have been
> condemned long
> 
>   > ago in Ontario, sections of their roofs collapsed or missing,
> windows
> 
>   > broken, doors sagging on their hinges, the wood showing hardly
> any paint
> 
>   > anymore. It's incredible there are still people living in them.
> Next to
> 
>   > the disused railway tracks stands the wreck of what must have
> been an old
> 
>   > station hotel when the town was booming. It is a melancholy
> sight. A bit
> 
>   > further down the highway is a village hyperbolically dubbed Cave
> City, in
> 
>   > which half of the establishments are defunct. But in amongst
> these sites
> 
>   > are a fair number of large elegant new houses set far back from
> the road.
> 
>   > 
> 
>   > So today we visited the Mammoth Caves, the world's longest cave
> system,
> 
>   > 365 miles of passageway explored so far. We were under 250 feet
> of
> 
>   > limestone. Very impressive. We decided against the six-hour tour
> 
>   > consisting mostly of crawling through tight spaces, taking
> instead the
> 
>   > two-hour tour which only requires you to turn sideways a few
> times or duck
> 
>   > now and then to fit thr

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: greetings from ky: long version

2005-07-22 Thread Lance Muir



A perspectivalism!!

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  ShieldsFamily 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: July 22, 2005 09:40
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: greetings 
  from ky: long version
  
  
  Ahh, isn't 
  America just wonderful? :-) 
  iz
   
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: 
  Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:50 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: 
  [TruthTalk] Fw: greetings from ky: long version
   
   
  - Original Message - 
  
  From: 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: July 20, 2005 21:10
  Subject: greetings from ky: long 
  version
   
   
  > We are in the heart of the kind of country where 
  there is a flag on every
  > house or lawn and a bumper sticker on two out of 
  three vehicles that reads
  > "We support our troops." At the tourist bureau in 
  Ohio there 
  was a sign on
  > the door: "It is illegal to carry any firearm, 
  deadly weapon or ordnance
  > on these premises." Leave your cannons at home, 
  folks. Now we're in
  > Kentucky, in the hills; the signs at fast 
  food restaurants are all 100
  > feet high so they can be seen in this very humpy 
  countryside. We are
  > staying in a small but clean and modern motel 
  near the I65, on a narrow,
  > winding rural road, flanked by Aunt Bee's 
  Restaurant and overlooking a
  > large, green, lovely, unkempt, tussocky meadow. 
  We got off the highway too
  > early and in the space of about five miles must 
  have passed no less than
  > 16 or 17 churches on the one country 
  road--Friendship Baptist, First
  > Baptist, Baptist Missionary, New Life Fellowship, 
  New Horizons Fellowship,
  > Church of God of Prophecy, Gospel Assembly, you 
  name it, literally one
  > every quarter mile or so. (There is also a thing 
  about the Ten
  > Commandments. We have seen them writ large on a 
  billboard and on the
  > window of a storefront church in a small town. 
  "Repent Now" signs also
  > appear here and there.) When we reached the road 
  we wanted, we went the
  > wrong direction first and drove by a farm gate 
  with two boar's heads on
  > it. Real ones. Dorothy, we're not in Ontario anymore. The 
  road is very
  > narrow and winding but paved--what you just don't 
  find in our countryside
  > where all the roads that lead anywhere are wide 
  and follow straight along
  > the surveyors' lines, and only major ones are 
  paved. It feels weird.
  > 
  > On the other side of the highway from the motel 
  and down a short distance
  > is the sad little town of Horse Cave--we're in the Mammoth Cave 
  region--in
  > which pretty little wooden houses sit cheek by 
  jowl with tumbledown
  > ramshackle ones, and by that I mean houses whose 
  shadowy porches still
  > have  people sitting in swings but which 
  would have been condemned long
  > ago in Ontario, sections of their roofs collapsed 
  or missing, windows
  > broken, doors sagging on their hinges, the wood 
  showing hardly any paint
  > anymore. It's incredible there are still people 
  living in them. Next to
  > the disused railway tracks stands the wreck of 
  what must have been an old
  > station hotel when the town was booming. It is a 
  melancholy sight. A bit
  > further down the highway is a village 
  hyperbolically dubbed Cave City, in
  > which half of the establishments are defunct. But 
  in amongst these sites
  > are a fair number of large elegant new houses set 
  far back from the road.
  > 
  > So today we visited the Mammoth Caves, the world's longest cave 
  system,
  > 365 miles of passageway explored so far. We were 
  under 250 feet of
  > limestone. Very impressive. We decided against 
  the six-hour tour
  > consisting mostly of crawling through tight 
  spaces, taking instead the
  > two-hour tour which only requires you to turn 
  sideways a few times or duck
  > now and then to fit through a small passage. At 
  some points on the path
  > (it had railings) you could look up or down a 
  good 80 feet or so into
  > these vertical shafts left by water. We kept 
  imagining we were in Moria
  > and heard orcs and cave trolls.  "Fool of a 
  Took!" "You...shall...not...
  > pass!" "Fly, you fools! Fly!" Apparently people 
  have played violins or
  > trumpets in these caves, or have sung down there, 
  and the effect is
  > supposed to be magnificent. I can only imagine. 
  One of the nicest things
  > about the caves was the temperature. It is 
  killingly hot here--all the
  > cows in the fields are standing in ponds, like 
  water buffaloes in
  > Asia--but in the 
  caves it was a pleasant 18C or ther

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: greetings from ky: long version

2005-07-22 Thread ShieldsFamily








Ahh, isn't America just wonderful? :-) iz

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:50 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: [TruthTalk] Fw: greetings from ky: long version

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: July 20, 2005 21:10

Subject: greetings from ky: long version

 

 

> We are in the heart of the kind of country where there is a flag
on every

> house or lawn and a bumper sticker on two out of three vehicles
that reads

> "We support our troops." At the tourist bureau in Ohio there was a sign on

> the door: "It is illegal to carry any firearm, deadly weapon
or ordnance

> on these premises." Leave your cannons at home, folks. Now
we're in

> Kentucky,
in the hills; the signs at fast food restaurants are all 100

> feet high so they can be seen in this very humpy countryside. We
are

> staying in a small but clean and modern motel near the I65, on a
narrow,

> winding rural road, flanked by Aunt Bee's Restaurant and
overlooking a

> large, green, lovely, unkempt, tussocky meadow. We got off the
highway too

> early and in the space of about five miles must have passed no
less than

> 16 or 17 churches on the one country road--Friendship Baptist,
First

> Baptist, Baptist Missionary, New Life Fellowship, New Horizons
Fellowship,

> Church
 of God of Prophecy,
Gospel Assembly, you name it, literally one

> every quarter mile or so. (There is also a thing about the Ten

> Commandments. We have seen them writ large on a billboard and on
the

> window of a storefront church in a small town. "Repent
Now" signs also

> appear here and there.) When we reached the road we wanted, we
went the

> wrong direction first and drove by a farm gate with two boar's
heads on

> it. Real ones. Dorothy, we're not in Ontario anymore. The road is very

> narrow and winding but paved--what you just don't find in our
countryside

> where all the roads that lead anywhere are wide and follow
straight along

> the surveyors' lines, and only major ones are paved. It feels
weird.

> 

> On the other side of the highway from the motel and down a short
distance

> is the sad little town of Horse
Cave--we're in the Mammoth Cave
region--in

> which pretty little wooden houses sit cheek by jowl with
tumbledown

> ramshackle ones, and by that I mean houses whose shadowy porches
still

> have  people sitting in swings but which would have been condemned
long

> ago in Ontario,
sections of their roofs collapsed or missing, windows

> broken, doors sagging on their hinges, the wood showing hardly any
paint

> anymore. It's incredible there are still people living in them.
Next to

> the disused railway tracks stands the wreck of what must have been
an old

> station hotel when the town was booming. It is a melancholy sight.
A bit

> further down the highway is a village hyperbolically dubbed Cave City,
in

> which half of the establishments are defunct. But in amongst these
sites

> are a fair number of large elegant new houses set far back from
the road.

> 

> So today we visited the Mammoth
 Caves, the world's
longest cave system,

> 365 miles of passageway explored so far. We were under 250 feet of

> limestone. Very impressive. We decided against the six-hour tour

> consisting mostly of crawling through tight spaces, taking instead
the

> two-hour tour which only requires you to turn sideways a few times
or duck

> now and then to fit through a small passage. At some points on the
path

> (it had railings) you could look up or down a good 80 feet or so
into

> these vertical shafts left by water. We kept imagining we were in
Moria

> and heard orcs and cave trolls.  "Fool of a Took!"
"You...shall...not...

> pass!" "Fly, you fools! Fly!" Apparently people
have played violins or

> trumpets in these caves, or have sung down there, and the effect
is

> supposed to be magnificent. I can only imagine. One of the nicest
things

> about the caves was the temperature. It is killingly hot here--all
the

> cows in the fields are standing in ponds, like water buffaloes in

> Asia--but in the caves it was a
pleasant 18C or thereabouts, and quite

> dry. When we came out again it felt like we had suddenly entered a

> tropical rainforest; I could just feel the H2O going into my lungs
with

> every breath. I think a pair of gills would come in handy.

> 

> Later we went to the birthplace of Lincoln, which is nearby and is a

> national site, and saw the original log cabin enshrined in a sort
of

> Parthenonlike monument with a gazillion steps leading up to it
lik

[TruthTalk] Fw: greetings from ky: long version

2005-07-21 Thread Lance Muir


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: July 20, 2005 21:10
Subject: greetings from ky: long version



We are in the heart of the kind of country where there is a flag on every
house or lawn and a bumper sticker on two out of three vehicles that reads
"We support our troops." At the tourist bureau in Ohio there was a sign on
the door: "It is illegal to carry any firearm, deadly weapon or ordnance
on these premises." Leave your cannons at home, folks. Now we're in
Kentucky, in the hills; the signs at fast food restaurants are all 100
feet high so they can be seen in this very humpy countryside. We are
staying in a small but clean and modern motel near the I65, on a narrow,
winding rural road, flanked by Aunt Bee's Restaurant and overlooking a
large, green, lovely, unkempt, tussocky meadow. We got off the highway too
early and in the space of about five miles must have passed no less than
16 or 17 churches on the one country road--Friendship Baptist, First
Baptist, Baptist Missionary, New Life Fellowship, New Horizons Fellowship,
Church of God of Prophecy, Gospel Assembly, you name it, literally one
every quarter mile or so. (There is also a thing about the Ten
Commandments. We have seen them writ large on a billboard and on the
window of a storefront church in a small town. "Repent Now" signs also
appear here and there.) When we reached the road we wanted, we went the
wrong direction first and drove by a farm gate with two boar's heads on
it. Real ones. Dorothy, we're not in Ontario anymore. The road is very
narrow and winding but paved--what you just don't find in our countryside
where all the roads that lead anywhere are wide and follow straight along
the surveyors' lines, and only major ones are paved. It feels weird.

On the other side of the highway from the motel and down a short distance
is the sad little town of Horse Cave--we're in the Mammoth Cave region--in
which pretty little wooden houses sit cheek by jowl with tumbledown
ramshackle ones, and by that I mean houses whose shadowy porches still
have  people sitting in swings but which would have been condemned long
ago in Ontario, sections of their roofs collapsed or missing, windows
broken, doors sagging on their hinges, the wood showing hardly any paint
anymore. It's incredible there are still people living in them. Next to
the disused railway tracks stands the wreck of what must have been an old
station hotel when the town was booming. It is a melancholy sight. A bit
further down the highway is a village hyperbolically dubbed Cave City, in
which half of the establishments are defunct. But in amongst these sites
are a fair number of large elegant new houses set far back from the road.

So today we visited the Mammoth Caves, the world's longest cave system,
365 miles of passageway explored so far. We were under 250 feet of
limestone. Very impressive. We decided against the six-hour tour
consisting mostly of crawling through tight spaces, taking instead the
two-hour tour which only requires you to turn sideways a few times or duck
now and then to fit through a small passage. At some points on the path
(it had railings) you could look up or down a good 80 feet or so into
these vertical shafts left by water. We kept imagining we were in Moria
and heard orcs and cave trolls.  "Fool of a Took!" "You...shall...not...
pass!" "Fly, you fools! Fly!" Apparently people have played violins or
trumpets in these caves, or have sung down there, and the effect is
supposed to be magnificent. I can only imagine. One of the nicest things
about the caves was the temperature. It is killingly hot here--all the
cows in the fields are standing in ponds, like water buffaloes in
Asia--but in the caves it was a pleasant 18C or thereabouts, and quite
dry. When we came out again it felt like we had suddenly entered a
tropical rainforest; I could just feel the H2O going into my lungs with
every breath. I think a pair of gills would come in handy.

Later we went to the birthplace of Lincoln, which is nearby and is a
national site, and saw the original log cabin enshrined in a sort of
Parthenonlike monument with a gazillion steps leading up to it like at
Lourdes. The little movie we saw about Lincoln's "Kentucky years" (he
lived here till about age 10) included a lengthy segment consisting of
scenic shots with a man and woman singing all the verses of "The Lord is
my Shepherd" in the background accompanied by a guitar. I couldn't help
but think how different the movie would be in a Canadian national site,
regardless of how "religious" the hero might have been.

It is very beautiful country, lots of forest but no evergreens in them,
which makes them seem somehow strange. I think if I ever lose an eye, the
thing I will miss most about depth perception is the appearance of a
forest.  Not from a distance, on the side of a hill, say, but when you are
driving along right next to it and looking into it. Forests are a
celebration of 3D