[TruthTalk] flu shots

2003-12-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
BTW, flu shots are not really "big business" for the drug companies. The
(ever-so-helpful-finger-in-everything-way-too-huge) gov't has made it so
unprofitable that there is a major shortage of flu shots this year--which is
why we have all the media coverage about flu shots this year. Izzy

-Original Message- 
David Miller wrote:>
> Remember that flu shots are BIG BUSINESS.  It is being marketed to you.
> Don't believe that it is going to help you just because of the ads.



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[TruthTalk] flu shots

2003-12-22 Thread jandgtaylor1



From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Drug 
companies are just another _expression_ of capitalistic freedom (ie: if they don't 
make a profit they go out of business), and they happen to save thousands of 
lives in the process. 
 
Prescription Drugs Fourth Major Cause Of Death 
In U.S. 

From the Journal of American Medicine came the disturbing 
news, in late April 1998, that adverse drug reactions are the 4th leading cause 
of death in the United States.(using 1994 figures.) 
Researchers were shocked at the number of deaths between 
76,000 and 137,000 caused by drugs.The numbers were even more disconcerting 
because cases were excluded by the researchers where drugs were misprescribed or 
wrongly used.About 2.2 million serious but nonlethal drugs reaction occur yearly 
also in U.S. 
Another shocking fact is that adverse drug reactions are 
rarely reported.Physicians are asked by the FDA to file reports,but most doctors 
are too busy to do this.In 1994 the FDA received only 3,500 fatal drug reaction 
reports. 
Guess it depends on whose report you are going to believe and this one is 
from JAMA itself  I'd be better off with diabetes... it's 8th.
 
Izzy wrote:> BTW, flu shots are not really "big business" for 
the drug companies. The (ever-so-helpful-finger-in-everything-> 
way-too-huge) gov't has made it so unprofitable that > there is a major 
shortage of flu shots this year--which> is why we have all the media 
coverage about flu shots > this year.
 
Oh, no, I can't believe you fell for that one.  LOL.  
 
Just follow the money Izzy, and follow it after this news blitz 
aboutthe scarcity of flu shots and "not enough profit" propaganda 
finishesits work.  People always want what they can't have, and seeing 
longlines waiting for shots is going to boost sales in ways that 
nomarketing campaign ever could. 
 
I have been immunized against immunizations because I don't believe 
inthem.  Exodus 15:26 says, "I will put none of these diseases upon 
thee,which I have brought upon the Egyptians."  If God gives me such 
apromise, it would be nothing but doubt and unbelief for me to 
injectmyself or my family with these same diseases with the idea that I 
amgoing to protect myself from them.  I realize that this is a faith 
walkand a conscience thing that everyone must work out for themselves.  
I'mnot trying to push something on you, just share with you this so 
thatyou can understand that I have been immunized against 
immunizations.Therefore, my eyes are opened to things about this that others 
cannotsee, because I have absolutely no desire to get a flu shot. 
 
Peace be with you.David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
 
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that you may knowhow you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 
4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org
 
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RE: [TruthTalk] flu shots

2003-12-21 Thread David Miller
Izzy wrote:
> BTW, flu shots are not really "big business" for the 
> drug companies. The (ever-so-helpful-finger-in-everything-
> way-too-huge) gov't has made it so unprofitable that 
> there is a major shortage of flu shots this year--which
> is why we have all the media coverage about flu shots 
> this year.

Oh, no, I can't believe you fell for that one.  LOL.  

Just follow the money Izzy, and follow it after this news blitz about
the scarcity of flu shots and "not enough profit" propaganda finishes
its work.  People always want what they can't have, and seeing long
lines waiting for shots is going to boost sales in ways that no
marketing campaign ever could. 

I have been immunized against immunizations because I don't believe in
them.  Exodus 15:26 says, "I will put none of these diseases upon thee,
which I have brought upon the Egyptians."  If God gives me such a
promise, it would be nothing but doubt and unbelief for me to inject
myself or my family with these same diseases with the idea that I am
going to protect myself from them.  I realize that this is a faith walk
and a conscience thing that everyone must work out for themselves.  I'm
not trying to push something on you, just share with you this so that
you can understand that I have been immunized against immunizations.
Therefore, my eyes are opened to things about this that others cannot
see, because I have absolutely no desire to get a flu shot. 

Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.

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Re: [TruthTalk] flu shots

2003-12-21 Thread Marlin Halverson
David: Exodus 15:26 says, "I will put none of these diseases upon thee,
> which I have brought upon the Egyptians."  If God gives me such a
> promise, it would be nothing but doubt and unbelief for me to inject
> myself or my family with these same diseases with the idea that I am
> going to protect myself from them.  

Marlin:  We agree on this!
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Re: [TruthTalk] flu shots

2003-12-21 Thread Dean Moore



> [Original Message]
> From: Marlin Halverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 12/21/2003 7:50:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] flu shots
>
> David: Exodus 15:26 says, "I will put none of these diseases upon thee,
> > which I have brought upon the Egyptians."  If God gives me such a
> > promise, it would be nothing but doubt and unbelief for me to inject
> > myself or my family with these same diseases with the idea that I am
> > going to protect myself from them.  
>
> Marlin:  We agree on this!
Dean writes:

 Hey guys-I thought I had to get this shot to travel to Europe-but once I
got there I discovered that non of the brethren had to get one-they
probably never caught the flu virus either-I wonder what will happen next
from the tetanus shot I also got-come to think of it my jaw does feel
strange:-) 

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know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6)
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RE: [TruthTalk] flu shots

2003-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, it is okay if you want to be anti-flu shots.  But be careful not to
fall into the Liberals camp of being anti-drug companies.  They hate all
large corporations, and will do anything to defame them and legislate them
right out of business. We can actually thank the Clinton administration for
restricting prices on flu shots; thereby inducing the drug co's to only make
as much as they are sure they can sell; otherwise they lose money. 

Drug companies are just another expression of capitalistic freedom (ie: if
they don't make a profit they go out of business), and they happen to save
thousands of lives in the process. They are criticized for charging "too
much" for their products, but they get NO reimbursement for all the millions
they spend on research that does not pan out, and the folks who make the
most money are your local pharmacies and hospitals and HMO's who act as
middle men. I'm not a big lover of taking drugs unnecessarily, but I'm
thrilled that they are available when the gov't stays out of things. Izzy

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Izzy wrote:
> BTW, flu shots are not really "big business" for the 
> drug companies. The (ever-so-helpful-finger-in-everything-
> way-too-huge) gov't has made it so unprofitable that 
> there is a major shortage of flu shots this year--which
> is why we have all the media coverage about flu shots 
> this year.

Oh, no, I can't believe you fell for that one.  LOL.  

Just follow the money Izzy, and follow it after this news blitz about
the scarcity of flu shots and "not enough profit" propaganda finishes
its work.  People always want what they can't have, and seeing long
lines waiting for shots is going to boost sales in ways that no
marketing campaign ever could. 

I have been immunized against immunizations because I don't believe in
them.  Exodus 15:26 says, "I will put none of these diseases upon thee,
which I have brought upon the Egyptians."  If God gives me such a
promise, it would be nothing but doubt and unbelief for me to inject
myself or my family with these same diseases with the idea that I am
going to protect myself from them.  I realize that this is a faith walk
and a conscience thing that everyone must work out for themselves.  I'm
not trying to push something on you, just share with you this so that
you can understand that I have been immunized against immunizations.
Therefore, my eyes are opened to things about this that others cannot
see, because I have absolutely no desire to get a flu shot. 

Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.

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