Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
Dean put away the NASVLance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I rarely attempt to change the minds of those I deem unchangeable. No 'drive-by' here, Linda. Please illustrate, sans archives, any who have changed their mind on any issue whatsoever on TT? A substantive issue would be best but, I'll settle for somethin' teeny. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:43 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... Lance, if you have any substantive evidence in favor of Feminism for Believers please let us know. Meanwhile please cut the personality analyses. iz PS Im the one who accused you of drive-by shooting posts. Youve done it again. All put-downs; no evidence. Hollow bullets. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:31 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... Forever rail against the graciousness of this selfsame God? Judy & Kevin wish to inform us what God can't do through Lewis & Tolkien (in print or on film). Y'all ought to read Linda Shield's observations. Amen Linda! David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in marginalizing women in the home, church and society at large (most are rather duplicitous on the society thingy). MYOPIA-Ask Linda for a definition. Judy employed the word 'sad' three times in a post yesterday. Well TTers here is a piece of news for y'all GOD READS TT!! When we, either through ignorance or intentionality, misrepresent HIM then, HE IS SAD! There's a whole lot of misrepresentin' goin' on here children! 'Drive by posts'..was that a Smithson original? Shootin' brothers and sisters, even when exhibiting mega stupidity, ain't the best way to go (ceptin' now and then, of course) Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
OOPS I hit the DELETE keyLance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kevin please, what was this IDIOT, JEW comment you posted?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...It is not that He can not do. It is that he will not do. God does not speak thru profane persons such as Cain & Esau. In fact he calls them names as in "PROFANE" Though he cried Esau was REJECTED! details in the HOLY BIBLE Nobody is railing against the grace of God. God offered his grace it was rejected, just like He has offered truth. Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Forever rail against the graciousness of this selfsame God? Judy & Kevin wish to inform us what God can't do through Lewis & Tolkien (in print or on film). Y'all ought to read Linda Shield's observations.. Amen Linda! David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in marginalizing women in the home, church and society at large (most are rather duplicitous on the society thingy). MYOPIA-Ask Linda for a definition. Judy employed the word 'sad' three times in a post yesterday. Well TTers here is a piece of news for y'all GOD READS TT!! When we, either through ignorance or intentionality, misrepresent HIM then, HE IS SAD! There's a whole lot of misrepresentin' goin' on here children! 'Drive by posts'..was that a Smithson original? Shootin' brothers and sisters, even when exhibiting mega stupidity, ain't the best way to go (ceptin' now and then, of course) Yahoo! ShoppingFind Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
Go back to sleepLance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kevin please, what was this IDIOT, JEW comment you posted?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...It is not that He can not do. It is that he will not do. God does not speak thru profane persons such as Cain & Esau. In fact he calls them names as in "PROFANE" Though he cried Esau was REJECTED! details in the HOLY BIBLE Nobody is railing against the grace of God. God offered his grace it was rejected, just like He has offered truth. Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Forever rail against the graciousness of this selfsame God? Judy & Kevin wish to inform us what God can't do through Lewis & Tolkien (in print or on film). Y'all ought to read Linda Shield's observations.. Amen Linda! David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in marginalizing women in the home, church and society at large (most are rather duplicitous on the society thingy). MYOPIA-Ask Linda for a definition. Judy employed the word 'sad' three times in a post yesterday. Well TTers here is a piece of news for y'all GOD READS TT!! When we, either through ignorance or intentionality, misrepresent HIM then, HE IS SAD! There's a whole lot of misrepresentin' goin' on here children! 'Drive by posts'..was that a Smithson original? Shootin' brothers and sisters, even when exhibiting mega stupidity, ain't the best way to go (ceptin' now and then, of course) Yahoo! ShoppingFind Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
Well that really substantive. I take it back and, humbly apologize. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 09:04 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... Ive changed my mind since joining TT. I used to think like most of you do that its expected that a Christian will sin every day. Now I think thats a lie of the devil. Ive learned that Jesus not only delivered us from the Penalty of sin, but from Slavery to sin. Halleluia!!! iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:00 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... I rarely attempt to change the minds of those I deem unchangeable. No 'drive-by' here, Linda. Please illustrate, sans archives, any who have changed their mind on any issue whatsoever on TT? A substantive issue would be best but, I'll settle for somethin' teeny. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:43 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... Lance, if you have any substantive evidence in favor of Feminism for Believers please let us know. Meanwhile please cut the personality analyses. iz PS Im the one who accused you of drive-by shooting posts. Youve done it again. All put-downs; no evidence. Hollow bullets. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:31 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... Forever rail against the graciousness of this selfsame God? Judy & Kevin wish to inform us what God can't do through Lewis & Tolkien (in print or on film). Y'all ought to read Linda Shield's observations. Amen Linda! David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in marginalizing women in the home, church and society at large (most are rather duplicitous on the society thingy). MYOPIA-Ask Linda for a definition. Judy employed the word 'sad' three times in a post yesterday. Well TTers here is a piece of news for y'all GOD READS TT!! When we, either through ignorance or intentionality, misrepresent HIM then, HE IS SAD! There's a whole lot of misrepresentin' goin' on here children! 'Drive by posts'..was that a Smithson original? Shootin' brothers and sisters, even when exhibiting mega stupidity, ain't the best way to go (ceptin' now and then, of course)
RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
I’ve changed my mind since joining TT. I used to think like most of you do that it’s expected that a Christian will sin every day. Now I think that’s a lie of the devil. I’ve learned that Jesus not only delivered us from the Penalty of sin, but from Slavery to sin. Halleluia!!! iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:00 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... I rarely attempt to change the minds of those I deem unchangeable. No 'drive-by' here, Linda. Please illustrate, sans archives, any who have changed their mind on any issue whatsoever on TT? A substantive issue would be best but, I'll settle for somethin' teeny. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:43 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... Lance, if you have any substantive evidence in favor of “Feminism” for Believers please let us know. Meanwhile please cut the personality analyses. iz PS I’m the one who accused you of drive-by shooting posts. You’ve done it again. All put-downs; no evidence. Hollow bullets. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:31 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... Forever rail against the graciousness of this selfsame God? Judy & Kevin wish to inform us what God can't do through Lewis & Tolkien (in print or on film). Y'all ought to read Linda Shield's observations. Amen Linda! David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in marginalizing women in the home, church and society at large (most are rather duplicitous on the society thingy). MYOPIA-Ask Linda for a definition. Judy employed the word 'sad' three times in a post yesterday. Well TTers here is a piece of news for y'all GOD READS TT!! When we, either through ignorance or intentionality, misrepresent HIM then, HE IS SAD! There's a whole lot of misrepresentin' goin' on here children! 'Drive by posts'..was that a Smithson original? Shootin' brothers and sisters, even when exhibiting mega stupidity, ain't the best way to go (ceptin' now and then, of course)
RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
Bingo. (God’s plan is the only way to joy.) iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 7:56 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... Honestly, no I have not. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:53 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... Lance, why don’t you ask those of us who have supposedly been “marginalized” what we think of our station in life? Have you ever met a happy Feminist?? iz David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in marginalizing women in the home, church and society at large (most are rather duplicitous on the society thingy).
Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
I rarely attempt to change the minds of those I deem unchangeable. No 'drive-by' here, Linda. Please illustrate, sans archives, any who have changed their mind on any issue whatsoever on TT? A substantive issue would be best but, I'll settle for somethin' teeny. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:43 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... Lance, if you have any substantive evidence in favor of Feminism for Believers please let us know. Meanwhile please cut the personality analyses. iz PS Im the one who accused you of drive-by shooting posts. Youve done it again. All put-downs; no evidence. Hollow bullets. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:31 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... Forever rail against the graciousness of this selfsame God? Judy & Kevin wish to inform us what God can't do through Lewis & Tolkien (in print or on film). Y'all ought to read Linda Shield's observations. Amen Linda! David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in marginalizing women in the home, church and society at large (most are rather duplicitous on the society thingy). MYOPIA-Ask Linda for a definition. Judy employed the word 'sad' three times in a post yesterday. Well TTers here is a piece of news for y'all GOD READS TT!! When we, either through ignorance or intentionality, misrepresent HIM then, HE IS SAD! There's a whole lot of misrepresentin' goin' on here children! 'Drive by posts'..was that a Smithson original? Shootin' brothers and sisters, even when exhibiting mega stupidity, ain't the best way to go (ceptin' now and then, of course)
Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
Honestly, no I have not. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:53 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... Lance, why dont you ask those of us who have supposedly been marginalized what we think of our station in life? Have you ever met a happy Feminist?? iz David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in marginalizing women in the home, church and society at large (most are rather duplicitous on the society thingy).
RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
Lance, why don’t you ask those of us who have supposedly been “marginalized” what we think of our station in life? Have you ever met a happy Feminist?? iz David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in marginalizing women in the home, church and society at large (most are rather duplicitous on the society thingy).
RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
Lance, if you have any substantive evidence in favor of “Feminism” for Believers please let us know. Meanwhile please cut the personality analyses. iz PS I’m the one who accused you of drive-by shooting posts. You’ve done it again. All put-downs; no evidence. Hollow bullets. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:31 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... Forever rail against the graciousness of this selfsame God? Judy & Kevin wish to inform us what God can't do through Lewis & Tolkien (in print or on film). Y'all ought to read Linda Shield's observations. Amen Linda! David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in marginalizing women in the home, church and society at large (most are rather duplicitous on the society thingy). MYOPIA-Ask Linda for a definition. Judy employed the word 'sad' three times in a post yesterday. Well TTers here is a piece of news for y'all GOD READS TT!! When we, either through ignorance or intentionality, misrepresent HIM then, HE IS SAD! There's a whole lot of misrepresentin' goin' on here children! 'Drive by posts'..was that a Smithson original? Shootin' brothers and sisters, even when exhibiting mega stupidity, ain't the best way to go (ceptin' now and then, of course)
RE: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
Judy, how about considering the fact that CSL was MUCH OLDER than you when he got saved, and maybe just hadn’t had all the years and/or Bible Study Fellowship experiences that you have. You have grown over the years, according to your words below. I’m sure CSL did also. No one has it all together immediately. Cut people some slack; especially those who spend their lives writing and speaking Christian apologetics to the best of their understanding. I think his personal choices were exemplary. And since when is “making a lot of money writing” a sin? Now who else can we slice and dice on TT? iz I read Linda's observations and there was a time when I may have agreed with her - However, I now believe that a heart truly surrendered to Christ would have layed aside the classical education and mythology rather than try to mix it like oil and water. Paul had a pretty good education himself and he counted it as dung compared to the knowledge of Christ. For the record I don't believe CSL actually knew the Lord though he may have been up on doctrinal orthodoxy and he made a lot of money with his writing. His personal choices tell the rest of the story.
Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
Kevin please, what was this IDIOT, JEW comment you posted? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 08, 2005 08:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family... It is not that He can not do. It is that he will not do. God does not speak thru profane persons such as Cain & Esau. In fact he calls them names as in "PROFANE" Though he cried Esau was REJECTED! details in the HOLY BIBLE Nobody is railing against the grace of God. God offered his grace it was rejected, just like He has offered truth. Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Forever rail against the graciousness of this selfsame God? Judy & Kevin wish to inform us what God can't do through Lewis & Tolkien (in print or on film). Y'all ought to read Linda Shield's observations.. Amen Linda! David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in marginalizing women in the home, church and society at large (most are rather duplicitous on the society thingy). MYOPIA-Ask Linda for a definition. Judy employed the word 'sad' three times in a post yesterday. Well TTers here is a piece of news for y'all GOD READS TT!! When we, either through ignorance or intentionality, misrepresent HIM then, HE IS SAD! There's a whole lot of misrepresentin' goin' on here children! 'Drive by posts'..was that a Smithson original? Shootin' brothers and sisters, even when exhibiting mega stupidity, ain't the best way to go (ceptin' now and then, of course) Yahoo! ShoppingFind Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
It is not that He can not do. It is that he will not do. God does not speak thru profane persons such as Cain & Esau. In fact he calls them names as in "PROFANE" Though he cried Esau was REJECTED! details in the HOLY BIBLE Nobody is railing against the grace of God. God offered his grace it was rejected, just like He has offered truth. Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Forever rail against the graciousness of this selfsame God? Judy & Kevin wish to inform us what God can't do through Lewis & Tolkien (in print or on film). Y'all ought to read Linda Shield's observations.. Amen Linda! David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in marginalizing women in the home, church and society at large (most are rather duplicitous on the society thingy). MYOPIA-Ask Linda for a definition. Judy employed the word 'sad' three times in a post yesterday. Well TTers here is a piece of news for y'all GOD READS TT!! When we, either through ignorance or intentionality, misrepresent HIM then, HE IS SAD! There's a whole lot of misrepresentin' goin' on here children! 'Drive by posts'..was that a Smithson original? Shootin' brothers and sisters, even when exhibiting mega stupidity, ain't the best way to go (ceptin' now and then, of course) Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...
Lance my goodness, this looks more like a morning rant than morning musings ... sigh! On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 05:30:46 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Forever rail against the graciousness of this selfsame God? Who is railing? Taking His Own Words seriously is hardly railing against anything, in fact it is honoring Him in his love and graciousness because this is what He requires of us. Judy & Kevin wish to inform us what God can't do through Lewis & Tolkien (in print or on film). Y'all ought to read Linda Shield's observations. Amen Linda! I read Linda's observations and there was a time when I may have agreed with her - However, I now believe that a heart truly surrendered to Christ would have layed aside the classical education and mythology rather than try to mix it like oil and water. Paul had a pretty good education himself and he counted it as dung compared to the knowledge of Christ. For the record I don't believe CSL actually knew the Lord though he may have been up on doctrinal orthodoxy and he made a lot of money with his writing. His personal choices tell the rest of the story. David, Christine, Judy and Linda rail against feminism, absolving the believing community of its part in marginalizing women in the home, church and society at large (most are rather duplicitous on the society thingy). I have not railed against anything Lance and the "believing community" I am around encourages women to stay at home and nurture their children. I happen to believe that God made men and women to be different and that the women are the nurturers. In a home where there is the love of Christ (beginning with the husband/father) there is no reason for women to be out there swimming with the sharks and wearing themselves out to be accepted. MYOPIA-Ask Linda for a definition. Judy employed the word 'sad' three times in a post yesterday. Well TTers here is a piece of news for y'all GOD READS TT!! When we, either through ignorance or intentionality, misrepresent HIM then, HE IS SAD! There's a whole lot of misrepresentin' goin' on here children! No Lance. I have not misrepresented the God I serve at all; He may not meet your standards but He is the one I must answer to. You have your own thing going on that makes no sense at all to me. 'Drive by posts'..was that a Smithson original? Shootin' brothers and sisters, even when exhibiting mega stupidity, ain't the best way to go (ceptin' now and then, of course) judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)