Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
JT sinks to the bottom of the pond > "being baptized into Christ" is being baptized into his death, . . . AND RESURRECTION!! Down in his death. Up in his resurrection. Lest you drown in the (metaphorical) pool! Bill - Original Message - From: Judith H Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ I don't think so JD Gal 3:26,27 "being baptized into Christ" is being baptized into his death, so what does this have to do with a wedding garment? judyt On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:18:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Gal 3:26-27, the attire is Jesus. Why do you ask? jd -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What would you call "the garments of salvation" JD? I would say this is the attire you must arrive at the wedding feast in - that is, if you expect to be invited to stay and partake. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:47:57 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss an introduction??!! Anyway -- the post below is spoken as well as a works salvationist can muster. Proper wedding attire is not the key to my salvation. Actually, I don't even own a suit !! Now, on the other hand, if you reference Gal 3:26-27 and the "putting on Christ," I stand corrected. That attire is the only attire that works for me. jd -- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He has invited all to the banquet JD but most are too busy to bother which is evident by their rhetoric. So too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens. Sadly!!! -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Plains.Net, and is believed to be clean.
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
Yes, and if she will send me her address, I will mail her a beautiful set of towels !! jd -- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "all they have done is gotten wet" Judith H Taylor: You have one great, if unintentional, sense of humour. - Original Message - From: Judith H Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 06, 2006 15:59 Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ The Covenant agreement JD is that we die to the flesh and walk in newness of life. Those continuing to follow their old fallen flesh nature have not put on anything, all they have done is gotten wet. judyt On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:39:41 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who said anything about wedding garments? But here is what the text says " -- as many of you as have been immersed into Christ have put on Christ." -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't think so JD Gal 3:26,27 "being baptized into Christ" is being baptized into his death, so what does this have to do with a wedding garment? judyt On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:18:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Gal 3:26-27, the attire is Jesus. Why do you ask? jd -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What would you call "the garments of salvation" JD? I would say this is the attire you must arrive at the wedding feast in - that is, if you expect to be invited to stay and partake. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:47:57 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss an introduction??!! Anyway -- the post below is spoken as well as a works salvationist can muster. Proper wedding attire is not the key to my salvation. Actually, I don't even own a suit !! Now, on the other hand, if you reference Gal 3:26-27 and the "putting on Christ," I stand corrected. That attire is the only attire that works for me. jd -- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He has invited all to the banquet JD but most are too busy to bother which is evident by their rhetoric. So too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens. Sadly!!!
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
Why have you changed subjects? Do you agree that Paul speaks of being clothed with Christ as we immerse ourselves into Him? I actually do not think the Gal passage is speaking of water baptism except as it symbolizes our immersion into Christ. jd -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Covenant agreement JD is that we die to the flesh and walk in newness of life. Those continuing to follow their old fallen flesh nature have not put on anything, all they have done is gotten wet. judyt On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:39:41 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who said anything about wedding garments? But here is what the text says " -- as many of you as have been immersed into Christ have put on Christ." -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't think so JD Gal 3:26,27 "being baptized into Christ" is being baptized into his death, so what does this have to do with a wedding garment? judyt On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:18:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Gal 3:26-27, the attire is Jesus. Why do you ask? jd -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What would you call "the garments of salvation" JD? I would say this is the attire you must arrive at the wedding feast in - that is, if you expect to be invited to stay and partake. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:47:57 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss an introduction??!! Anyway -- the post below is spoken as well as a works salvationist can muster. Proper wedding attire is not the key to my salvation. Actually, I don't even own a suit !! Now, on the other hand, if you reference Gal 3:26-27 and the "putting on Christ," I stand corrected. That attire is the only attire that works for me. jd -- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He has invited all to the banquet JD but most are too busy to bother which is evident by their rhetoric. So too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens. Sadly!!!
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
"all they have done is gotten wet" Judith H Taylor: You have one great, if unintentional, sense of humour. - Original Message - From: Judith H Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 06, 2006 15:59 Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ The Covenant agreement JD is that we die to the flesh and walk in newness of life. Those continuing to follow their old fallen flesh nature have not put on anything, all they have done is gotten wet. judyt On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:39:41 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who said anything about wedding garments? But here is what the text says " -- as many of you as have been immersed into Christ have put on Christ." -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't think so JD Gal 3:26,27 "being baptized into Christ" is being baptized into his death, so what does this have to do with a wedding garment? judyt On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:18:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Gal 3:26-27, the attire is Jesus. Why do you ask? jd -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What would you call "the garments of salvation" JD? I would say this is the attire you must arrive at the wedding feast in - that is, if you expect to be invited to stay and partake. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:47:57 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss an introduction??!! Anyway -- the post below is spoken as well as a works salvationist can muster. Proper wedding attire is not the key to my salvation. Actually, I don't even own a suit !! Now, on the other hand, if you reference Gal 3:26-27 and the "putting on Christ," I stand corrected. That attire is the only attire that works for me. jd -- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He has invited all to the banquet JD but most are too busy to bother which is evident by their rhetoric. So too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens. Sadly!!!
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
The Covenant agreement JD is that we die to the flesh and walk in newness of life. Those continuing to follow their old fallen flesh nature have not put on anything, all they have done is gotten wet. judyt On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:39:41 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who said anything about wedding garments? But here is what the text says " -- as many of you as have been immersed into Christ have put on Christ." -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't think so JD Gal 3:26,27 "being baptized into Christ" is being baptized into his death, so what does this have to do with a wedding garment? judyt On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:18:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Gal 3:26-27, the attire is Jesus. Why do you ask? jd -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What would you call "the garments of salvation" JD? I would say this is the attire you must arrive at the wedding feast in - that is, if you expect to be invited to stay and partake. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:47:57 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss an introduction??!! Anyway -- the post below is spoken as well as a works salvationist can muster. Proper wedding attire is not the key to my salvation. Actually, I don't even own a suit !! Now, on the other hand, if you reference Gal 3:26-27 and the "putting on Christ," I stand corrected. That attire is the only attire that works for me. jd -- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He has invited all to the banquet JD but most are too busy to bother which is evident by their rhetoric. So too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens. Sadly!!!
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
Who said anything about wedding garments? But here is what the text says " -- as many of you as have been immersed into Christ have put on Christ." -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't think so JD Gal 3:26,27 "being baptized into Christ" is being baptized into his death, so what does this have to do with a wedding garment? judyt On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:18:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Gal 3:26-27, the attire is Jesus. Why do you ask? jd -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What would you call "the garments of salvation" JD? I would say this is the attire you must arrive at the wedding feast in - that is, if you expect to be invited to stay and partake. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:47:57 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss an introduction??!! Anyway -- the post below is spoken as well as a works salvationist can muster. Proper wedding attire is not the key to my salvation. Actually, I don't even own a suit !! Now, on the other hand, if you reference Gal 3:26-27 and the "putting on Christ," I stand corrected. That attire is the only attire that works for me. jd -- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He has invited all to the banquet JD but most are too busy to bother which is evident by their rhetoric. So too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens. Sadly!!!
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
I don't think so JD Gal 3:26,27 "being baptized into Christ" is being baptized into his death, so what does this have to do with a wedding garment? judyt On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:18:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Gal 3:26-27, the attire is Jesus. Why do you ask? jd -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What would you call "the garments of salvation" JD? I would say this is the attire you must arrive at the wedding feast in - that is, if you expect to be invited to stay and partake. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:47:57 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss an introduction??!! Anyway -- the post below is spoken as well as a works salvationist can muster. Proper wedding attire is not the key to my salvation. Actually, I don't even own a suit !! Now, on the other hand, if you reference Gal 3:26-27 and the "putting on Christ," I stand corrected. That attire is the only attire that works for me. jd -- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He has invited all to the banquet JD but most are too busy to bother which is evident by their rhetoric. So too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens. Sadly!!!
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
In Gal 3:26-27, the attire is Jesus. Why do you ask? jd -- Original message -- From: Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What would you call "the garments of salvation" JD? I would say this is the attire you must arrive at the wedding feast in - that is, if you expect to be invited to stay and partake. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:47:57 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss an introduction??!! Anyway -- the post below is spoken as well as a works salvationist can muster. Proper wedding attire is not the key to my salvation. Actually, I don't even own a suit !! Now, on the other hand, if you reference Gal 3:26-27 and the "putting on Christ," I stand corrected. That attire is the only attire that works for me. jd -- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He has invited all to the banquet JD but most are too busy to bother which is evident by their rhetoric. So too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens. Sadly!!!
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
What would you call "the garments of salvation" JD? I would say this is the attire you must arrive at the wedding feast in - that is, if you expect to be invited to stay and partake. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 04:47:57 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I miss an introduction??!! Anyway -- the post below is spoken as well as a works salvationist can muster. Proper wedding attire is not the key to my salvation. Actually, I don't even own a suit !! Now, on the other hand, if you reference Gal 3:26-27 and the "putting on Christ," I stand corrected. That attire is the only attire that works for me. jd -- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He has invited all to the banquet JD but most are too busy to bother which is evident by their rhetoric. So too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens. Sadly!!!
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
I forgot why we are having this discussion !! Old age. Here is what I am saying about works and salvation -- what gets us saved, keeps us saved. If grace through faith apart from obedience to law "gets us save," that is all that keeps us saved. Obedience, works, these things are reponses to the Law within (the Spirit). That "Law" is a dynamic and driving force in our lives. It is as irresistible as is the process of growth or maturity. Who knows, maybe there are degrees of reward, in heaven. But I do know that works have nothing to do with securing a relationship with the Lord. jd - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 1:05:46 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ cd: Works don't get one saved because we depends on the works of another even Jesus-but we are saved for a work-so you expect to receive a payday from God without working-this from a God who promotes non- laziness? What are you teaching john? Any "payday" given to us as a result of obedience is viewed as a payment of indebtedness, Dean. If benefit is based on obedience, then God owes us soemthing when we obey !!! "Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt" (Romans 4:4.) - cd: John I clearly stated that grace is not by works-it is the gift of God-but there is a work to do after salvation. Consider the parable of the Talents and tell me how this has nothing to do with works if you can-please read this carefully before you answer. Mat 25:14 For the kingdom of heaven is as a man traveling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. Mat 25:15 And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey. Mat 25:16 Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents. Mat 25:17 And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two. Mat 25:18 But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money. Mat 25:19 After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. Mat 25:20 And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more. Mat 25:21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. Mat 25:22 He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gain ed two other talents beside them. Mat 25:23 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. Mat 25:24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art a hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strewed: Mat 25:25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. Mat 25:26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strewed: Mat 25:27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I & lt; /FONT>should have received mine own with usury. Mat 25:28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. Mat 25:29 For unto everyone that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. Mat 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Mat 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Mat 25:35 For I was hungry, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Mat 25:36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Mat 25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee hungry, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? Ma
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 1:05:46 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ cd: Works don't get one saved because we depends on the works of another even Jesus-but we are saved for a work-so you expect to receive a payday from God without working-this from a God who promotes non- laziness? What are you teaching john? Any "payday" given to us as a result of obedience is viewed as a payment of indebtedness, Dean. If benefit is based on obedience, then God owes us soemthing when we obey !!! "Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt" (Romans 4:4.) - cd: John I clearly stated that grace is not by works-it is the gift of God-but there is a work to do after salvation. Consider the parable of the Talents and tell me how this has nothing to do with works if you can-please read this carefully before you answer. Mat 25:14 For the kingdom of heaven is as a man traveling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. Mat 25:15 And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey. Mat 25:16 Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents. Mat 25:17 And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two. Mat 25:18 But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money. Mat 25:19 After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. Mat 25:20 And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more. Mat 25:21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. Mat 25:22 He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gain ed two other talents beside them. Mat 25:23 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. Mat 25:24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art a hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strewed: Mat 25:25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. Mat 25:26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strewed: Mat 25:27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I < /FONT>should have received mine own with usury. Mat 25:28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. Mat 25:29 For unto everyone that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. Mat 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Mat 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Mat 25:35 For I was hungry, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Mat 25:36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Mat 25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee hungry, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? Mat 25:38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Mat 25:39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? Mat 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have < FONT color=#ff size=3>done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting < /FONT>fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: Mat 25:42 For I was hungry, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: Mat 25:43 I was a stranger,
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
cd: Works don't get one saved because we depends on the works of another even Jesus-but we are saved for a work-so you expect to receive a payday from God without working-this from a God who promotes non- laziness? What are you teaching john? Any "payday" given to us as a result of obedience is viewed as a payment of indebtedness, Dean. If benefit is based on obedience, then God owes us soemthing when we obey !!! "Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt" (Romans 4:4.) jd - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 11:47:58 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ Did I miss an introduction??!! Anyway -- the post below is spoken as well as a works salvationist can muster. Proper wedding attire is not the key to my salvation. Actually, I don't even own a suit !! cd: Works don't get one saved because we depends on the works of another even Jesus-but we are saved for a work-so you expect to receive a payday from God without working-this from a God who promotes non- laziness? What are you teaching john? Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast unto the end; --- Now, on the other hand, if you reference Gal 3:26-27 and the "putting on Christ," I stand corrected. That attire is the only attire that works for me. jd -- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He has invited all to the banquet JD but most are too busy to bother which is evident by their rhetoric. So too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens. Sadly!!!
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 11:47:58 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ Did I miss an introduction??!! Anyway -- the post below is spoken as well as a works salvationist can muster. Proper wedding attire is not the key to my salvation. Actually, I don't even own a suit !! cd: Works don't get one saved because we depends on the works of another even Jesus-but we are saved for a work-so you expect to receive a payday from God without working-this from a God who promotes non- laziness? What are you teaching john? Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast unto the end; --- Now, on the other hand, if you reference Gal 3:26-27 and the "putting on Christ," I stand corrected. That attire is the only attire that works for me. jd -- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He has invited all to the banquet JD but most are too busy to bother which is evident by their rhetoric. So too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens. Sadly!!!
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
Did I miss an introduction??!! Anyway -- the post below is spoken as well as a works salvationist can muster. Proper wedding attire is not the key to my salvation. Actually, I don't even own a suit !! Now, on the other hand, if you reference Gal 3:26-27 and the "putting on Christ," I stand corrected. That attire is the only attire that works for me. jd -- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> He has invited all to the banquet JD but most are too busy to bother which is evident by their rhetoric. So too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens. Sadly!!!
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
It's from the parable of the wedding fest which you may have relegated to some other dispensation. However, I believe it will happen and those who have not been feasting on His Word but have been occupied with the dregs of this fallen world will get to spend eternity being entertained by what they have chosen. judyt
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
what level is this from? On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 04:08:01 GMT "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: He has invited all to the banquet JD but ..too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens.
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
He has invited all to the banquet JD but most are too busy to bother which is evident by their rhetoric. So too many will not be properly attired when the wedding feast actually happens. Sadly!!!
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
So tell Judy. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 10:13:36 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ Of course God has invited every single human being cd; Of course John. -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How very deceiving ... No, Jesus is the covenant and we get in on it if invited ... On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:19:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cd: Typical Augustinian response by way of Calvin.I read him as saying: Why should one fear God because we are in the covanent and he has no fear that He too could fall. 1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1Co 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. He also fail to deal with the two different states of man as to determine which state Christ appeared in. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 7:36:14 AM Subject: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 30, 2006 12:36 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ orthodxy IS the issue. either the heresies at hand were settled by the fathers or they were settled by the Nestoriuns. either St. Gregory's statement about the 'unassumed being unhealed' is correct, or it is not. either Jesus became human to deal with the human condition, or he did not. either I was crucified with Christ as a human being, or I was not. the question, in any event ought to be: if the new covenant is in effect, and there is indeed a new creation established in the resurrection of Jesus, and if the identity of the person of Jesus is written into the flesh of my heart and known by my mind without benefit or need of teaching; then why am I impelled to argue one side while someone else argues the other? this seems to me the more important question. why do we remain in the dark when the light is always shining? if I have been crucified with Christ, what is there to be afraid of, and yet, why am I still afraid? why is the comfort that was promised to me by my Lord and of which I have occasional awareness a transient experience? eschatalogically speaking: for what is my experience as a human being preparing me? RD http://sites.silaspartners.com/perichoresishttp://dancinggod.org/
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 10:13:36 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ Of course God has invited every single human being cd; Of course John. -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How very deceiving ... No, Jesus is the covenant and we get in on it if invited ... On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:19:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cd: Typical Augustinian response by way of Calvin.I read him as saying: Why should one fear God because we are in the covanent and he has no fear that He too could fall. 1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1Co 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. He also fail to deal with the two different states of man as to determine which state Christ appeared in. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 7:36:14 AM Subject: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 30, 2006 12:36 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ orthodxy IS the issue. either the heresies at hand were settled by the fathers or they were settled by the Nestoriuns. either St. Gregory's statement about the 'unassumed being unhealed' is correct, or it is not. either Jesus became human to deal with the human condition, or he did not. either I was crucified with Christ as a human being, or I was not. the question, in any event ought to be: if the new covenant is in effect, and there is indeed a new creation established in the resurrection of Jesus, and if the identity of the person of Jesus is written into the flesh of my heart and known by my mind without benefit or need of teaching; then why am I impelled to argue one side while someone else argues the other? this seems to me the more important question. why do we remain in the dark when the light is always shining? if I have been crucified with Christ, what is there to be afraid of, and yet, why am I still afraid? why is the comfort that was promised to me by my Lord and of which I have occasional awareness a transient experience? eschatalogically speaking: for what is my experience as a human being preparing me? RD http://sites.silaspartners.com/perichoresishttp://dancinggod.org/
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
Of course God has invited every single human being -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How very deceiving ... No, Jesus is the covenant and we get in on it if invited ... On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:19:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cd: Typical Augustinian response by way of Calvin.I read him as saying: Why should one fear God because we are in the covanent and he has no fear that He too could fall. 1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1Co 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. He also fail to deal with the two different states of man as to determine which state Christ appeared in. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 7:36:14 AM Subject: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 30, 2006 12:36 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ orthodxy IS the issue. either the heresies at hand were settled by the fathers or they were settled by the Nestoriuns. either St. Gregory's statement about the 'unassumed being unhealed' is correct, or it is not. either Jesus became human to deal with the human condition, or he did not. either I was crucified with Christ as a human being, or I was not. the question, in any event ought to be: if the new covenant is in effect, and there is indeed a new creation established in the resurrection of Jesus, and if the identity of the person of Jesus is written into the flesh of my heart and known by my mind without benefit or need of teaching; then why am I impelled to argue one side while someone else argues the other? this seems to me the more important question. why do we remain in the dark when the light is always shining? if I have been crucified with Christ, what is there to be afraid of, and yet, why am I still afraid? why is the comfort that was promised to me by my Lord and of which I have occasional awareness a transient experience? eschatalogically speaking: for what is my experience as a human being preparing me? RD http://sites.silaspartners.com/perichoresishttp://dancinggod.org/
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
How very deceiving ... No, Jesus is the covenant and we get in on it if invited ... On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:19:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: cd: Typical Augustinian response by way of Calvin.I read him as saying: Why should one fear God because we are in the covanent and he has no fear that He too could fall. 1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1Co 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. He also fail to deal with the two different states of man as to determine which state Christ appeared in. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 7:36:14 AM Subject: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 30, 2006 12:36 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ orthodxy IS the issue. either the heresies at hand were settled by the fathers or they were settled by the Nestoriuns. either St. Gregory's statement about the 'unassumed being unhealed' is correct, or it is not. either Jesus became human to deal with the human condition, or he did not. either I was crucified with Christ as a human being, or I was not. the question, in any event ought to be: if the new covenant is in effect, and there is indeed a new creation established in the resurrection of Jesus, and if the identity of the person of Jesus is written into the flesh of my heart and known by my mind without benefit or need of teaching; then why am I impelled to argue one side while someone else argues the other? this seems to me the more important question. why do we remain in the dark when the light is always shining? if I have been crucified with Christ, what is there to be afraid of, and yet, why am I still afraid? why is the comfort that was promised to me by my Lord and of which I have occasional awareness a transient experience? eschatalogically speaking: for what is my experience as a human being preparing me? RD http://sites.silaspartners.com/perichoresishttp://dancinggod.org/
RE: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
cd: Typical Augustinian response by way of Calvin.I read him as saying: Why should one fear God because we are in the covanent and he has no fear that He too could fall. 1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1Co 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. He also fail to deal with the two different states of man as to determine which state Christ appeared in. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 7:36:14 AM Subject: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 30, 2006 12:36 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ orthodxy IS the issue. either the heresies at hand were settled by the fathers or they were settled by the Nestoriuns. either St. Gregory's statement about the 'unassumed being unhealed' is correct, or it is not. either Jesus became human to deal with the human condition, or he did not. either I was crucified with Christ as a human being, or I was not. the question, in any event ought to be: if the new covenant is in effect, and there is indeed a new creation established in the resurrection of Jesus, and if the identity of the person of Jesus is written into the flesh of my heart and known by my mind without benefit or need of teaching; then why am I impelled to argue one side while someone else argues the other? this seems to me the more important question. why do we remain in the dark when the light is always shining? if I have been crucified with Christ, what is there to be afraid of, and yet, why am I still afraid? why is the comfort that was promised to me by my Lord and of which I have occasional awareness a transient experience? eschatalogically speaking: for what is my experience as a human being preparing me? RD http://sites.silaspartners.com/perichoresishttp://dancinggod.org/
Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
It's not and what's more you can be "as you say" assumed and still be unhealed. Every worldly person is not headed for heaven Megohmrod or whoever you are. Nothing is written in the flesh of your heart that you don't accept and embrace ie: Love Him and do what he says - which of course means repenting and turning from darkness and error - All of these formulas you have are just that. Formulas. God deals with ppl on a personal basis and yes he judges nations and groups also. On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 07:36:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 30, 2006 12:36 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ orthodxy IS the issue. either the heresies at hand were settled by the fathers or they were settled by the Nestoriuns. either St. Gregory's statement about the 'unassumed being unhealed' is correct, or it is not. either Jesus became human to deal with the human condition, or he did not. either I was crucified with Christ as a human being, or I was not. the question, in any event ought to be: if the new covenant is in effect, and there is indeed a new creation established in the resurrection of Jesus, and if the identity of the person of Jesus is written into the flesh of my heart and known by my mind without benefit or need of teaching; then why am I impelled to argue one side while someone else argues the other? this seems to me the more important question. why do we remain in the dark when the light is always shining? if I have been crucified with Christ, what is there to be afraid of, and yet, why am I still afraid? why is the comfort that was promised to me by my Lord and of which I have occasional awareness a transient experience? eschatalogically speaking: for what is my experience as a human being preparing me? RD http://sites.silaspartners.com/perichoresishttp://dancinggod.org/
