Re: [tryton] How to translate

2016-03-30 Thread Mathias Behrle
* Sergi Almacellas Abellana: " Re: [tryton] How to translate" (Wed, 30 Mar 2016
  21:37:11 +0200):

Thanks, Sergi, for your initiative.

I will post some minor issues to the review when it is clear, if it will be
merged, otherwise it is wasted time.

> El 30/03/16 a les 19:05, Cédric Krier ha escrit:
> > On 2016-03-30 18:36, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:  
> >> El 30/03/16 a les 17:58, Cédric Krier ha escrit:  
> >>> On 2016-03-30 17:33, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:  
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just added the how to translate section from the old wiki to the
> >>>>> website. So please review the changes here:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://codereview.tryton.org/24091002/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any comments will be much apreciated.  
> >>> This process is deprecated, we use Pootle now.  
> >> That's what i explain in the page. How to translate with pootle.
> >>
> >> I picked the notes (about pootle) from the old wiki and improved it a
> >> little bit.  
> >
> > Indeed I don't think we need any kind of pages. We have a link to the
> > pootle server in community page. And people can contact us from Pootle
> > to request the language creation.  
> 
> But it's not clear that Pootle means translations. I think we should 
> clarify the translation process, so newcomers can easly contribute on 
> translations.

It is a common wide spread error, that newcomers will provide just about good
translations. In my experience those attempts often just put an additional
burden on the language maintainer to correct/explain the errors.

That doesn't change the fact, that I appreciate your effort to make things more
clear.

> > About the time frame, I think it is no more accurate, we switched to
> > Pootle to allow among others to have continuous translation.  
> 
> So maybe we should remove this paragraph and mention the translation 
> process on the first steps of the contribute page.

While of course it is possible to translate continously, finally a consistent
translation and all checks make most, if not only sense in the string freeze.
So of course the time frames are quite important.

> > Also I found that until now (when we still have the wiki) nobody
> > followed the procedure and they just asked somewhere on ML or IRC etc.
> > So I think it is too much to have a procedure for something that happens
> > very rarely.  
> 
> I just write it down to have some reference as somebody asked it on the 
> spanish mailing list, so when asking on the mailing list we can easly 
> answer with a link to the how to translate (or contribute page).

When users are asking on IRC or mailing lists this could also be, because they
didn't find intuitively the information.

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Re: [tryton] How to translate

2016-03-30 Thread Raimon Esteve
El dia 30/03/2016 21.37, "Sergi Almacellas Abellana"  va
escriure:
>
> El 30/03/16 a les 19:05, Cédric Krier ha escrit:
>
>> On 2016-03-30 18:36, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:
>>>
>>> El 30/03/16 a les 17:58, Cédric Krier ha escrit:

 On 2016-03-30 17:33, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just added the how to translate section from the old wiki to the
website.
>> So please review the changes here:
>>
>> https://codereview.tryton.org/24091002/
>>
>> Any comments will be much apreciated.

 This process is deprecated, we use Pootle now.
>>>
>>> That's what i explain in the page. How to translate with pootle.
>>>
>>> I picked the notes (about pootle) from the old wiki and improved it a
little
>>> bit.
>>
>>
>> Indeed I don't think we need any kind of pages. We have a link to the
>> pootle server in community page. And people can contact us from Pootle
>> to request the language creation.
>
>
> But it's not clear that Pootle means translations. I think we should
clarify the translation process, so newcomers can easly contribute on
translations.
>
>
>> About the time frame, I think it is no more accurate, we switched to
>> Pootle to allow among others to have continuous translation.
>
>
> So maybe we should remove this paragraph and mention the translation
process on the first steps of the contribute page.
>
>
>> Also I found that until now (when we still have the wiki) nobody
>> followed the procedure and they just asked somewhere on ML or IRC etc.
>> So I think it is too much to have a procedure for something that happens
>> very rarely.
>
>
> I just write it down to have some reference as somebody asked it on the
spanish mailing list, so when asking on the mailing list we can easly
answer with a link to the how to translate (or contribute page).

+1

Or a new section, "how to"?

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Re: [tryton] How to translate

2016-03-30 Thread Sergi Almacellas Abellana

El 30/03/16 a les 19:05, Cédric Krier ha escrit:

On 2016-03-30 18:36, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:

El 30/03/16 a les 17:58, Cédric Krier ha escrit:

On 2016-03-30 17:33, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:

Hi,

I just added the how to translate section from the old wiki to the website.
So please review the changes here:

https://codereview.tryton.org/24091002/

Any comments will be much apreciated.

This process is deprecated, we use Pootle now.

That's what i explain in the page. How to translate with pootle.

I picked the notes (about pootle) from the old wiki and improved it a little
bit.


Indeed I don't think we need any kind of pages. We have a link to the
pootle server in community page. And people can contact us from Pootle
to request the language creation.


But it's not clear that Pootle means translations. I think we should 
clarify the translation process, so newcomers can easly contribute on 
translations.



About the time frame, I think it is no more accurate, we switched to
Pootle to allow among others to have continuous translation.


So maybe we should remove this paragraph and mention the translation 
process on the first steps of the contribute page.



Also I found that until now (when we still have the wiki) nobody
followed the procedure and they just asked somewhere on ML or IRC etc.
So I think it is too much to have a procedure for something that happens
very rarely.


I just write it down to have some reference as somebody asked it on the 
spanish mailing list, so when asking on the mailing list we can easly 
answer with a link to the how to translate (or contribute page).


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Re: [tryton] How to translate

2016-03-30 Thread Cédric Krier
On 2016-03-30 18:36, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:
> El 30/03/16 a les 17:58, Cédric Krier ha escrit:
> >On 2016-03-30 17:33, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>I just added the how to translate section from the old wiki to the website.
> >>>So please review the changes here:
> >>>
> >>>https://codereview.tryton.org/24091002/
> >>>
> >>>Any comments will be much apreciated.
> >This process is deprecated, we use Pootle now.
> That's what i explain in the page. How to translate with pootle.
> 
> I picked the notes (about pootle) from the old wiki and improved it a little
> bit.

Indeed I don't think we need any kind of pages. We have a link to the
pootle server in community page. And people can contact us from Pootle
to request the language creation.
About the time frame, I think it is no more accurate, we switched to
Pootle to allow among others to have continuous translation.
Also I found that until now (when we still have the wiki) nobody
followed the procedure and they just asked somewhere on ML or IRC etc.
So I think it is too much to have a procedure for something that happens
very rarely.

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Re: [tryton] How to translate

2016-03-30 Thread Sergi Almacellas Abellana

El 30/03/16 a les 17:58, Cédric Krier ha escrit:

On 2016-03-30 17:33, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I just added the how to translate section from the old wiki to the website.
>So please review the changes here:
>
>https://codereview.tryton.org/24091002/
>
>Any comments will be much apreciated.

This process is deprecated, we use Pootle now.

That's what i explain in the page. How to translate with pootle.

I picked the notes (about pootle) from the old wiki and improved it a 
little bit.


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Re: [tryton] How to translate

2016-03-30 Thread Cédric Krier
On 2016-03-30 17:33, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just added the how to translate section from the old wiki to the website.
> So please review the changes here:
> 
> https://codereview.tryton.org/24091002/
> 
> Any comments will be much apreciated.

This process is deprecated, we use Pootle now.

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[tryton] How to translate

2016-03-30 Thread Sergi Almacellas Abellana

Hi,

I just added the how to translate section from the old wiki to the 
website. So please review the changes here:


https://codereview.tryton.org/24091002/

Any comments will be much apreciated.


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