Re: [tryton] uWSGI: can't find trytond.application.app
On 2017-10-28 20:07, PMan wrote: > @Cedric: > Thank you, that did it. In the docs here: > http://doc.tryton.org/4.4/trytond/doc/topics/start_server.html > it says " you can use the application trytond.application.app" That > has a period '.' between application and app, but what is required is > a colon ':'. The documentation shows the qualified name for the application. The need to use colon is a particularity of uwsgi (but also some other applications). But I think we should use the Python standard format in the documentation. -- Cédric Krier - B2CK SPRL Email/Jabber: cedric.kr...@b2ck.com Tel: +32 472 54 46 59 Website: http://www.b2ck.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "tryton" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tryton/20171029092610.GH6037%40kei.
Re: [tryton] uWSGI: can't find trytond.application.app
@Cedric: Thank you, that did it. In the docs here: http://doc.tryton.org/4.4/trytond/doc/topics/start_server.html it says " you can use the application trytond.application.app" That has a period '.' between application and app, but what is required is a colon ':'. uwsgi starts without errors now. Thank you all! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "tryton" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tryton/eac35bf0-297f-4b68-ae94-7e2a3335664c%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [tryton] uWSGI: can't find trytond.application.app
On 2017-10-28 07:40, PMan wrote: > ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'trytond.application.app'; > 'trytond.application' is not a package The is a configuration problem, it should not try to import trytond.application.app but it should run app in trytond.application. I do not know uwsgi configuration syntax but usually it is: trytond.application:app -- Cédric Krier - B2CK SPRL Email/Jabber: cedric.kr...@b2ck.com Tel: +32 472 54 46 59 Website: http://www.b2ck.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "tryton" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tryton/20171028151608.GE6037%40kei.
Re: [tryton] uWSGI: can't find trytond.application.app
@Sergi: I installed trytond by: - downloading and expanding the source inside the virtual environment - activating the virtual environment, and then - python setup.py install After reading your post, I stored my config files, deleted the virtual environment, and started over. 1 Created the virtual environment /opt/Tryton 2 activated it (when activated, python -V returns python 3.6.2) 3 installed trytond with pip ./bin/pip3 install trytond 4 restored the config files to /opt/Trytond/etc I can run tryton without uwsgi: "./bin/trytond -c /opt/Tryton/etc/trytond.conf " from the command line, there are no errors. I did not try to access the instance, but it did start. I still cannot run tryton with uwsgi: I install uwsgi with pip. uwsgi is in the /opt/python36/bin folder, it was not installed in the virtual environment. "/opt/python36/bin/uwsgi --ini /opt/Tryton/etc/tryton.ini" from the command line produces the exact same errors I posted before. In /opt/Tryton/lib/python3.6/site-packages/trytond there is a file application.py In /opt/Tryton/lib/python3.6/site-packages/trytond/modules there is a file __init__.py, and a directory, pycache. Here is the output, in case I missed something: /opt/python36/bin/uwsgi --ini /opt/Tryton/etc/tryton.ini [uWSGI] getting INI configuration from /opt/Tryton/etc/tryton.ini *** Starting uWSGI 2.0.15 (64bit) on [Sat Oct 28 10:38:11 2017] *** compiled with version: 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-16) on 05 October 2017 22:04:37 os: Linux-3.10.0-714.10.2.lve1.4.63.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Aug 20 17:46:23 EDT 2017 nodename: host.mysite.com machine: x86_64 clock source: unix pcre jit disabled detected number of CPU cores: 4 current working directory: /opt/Tryton detected binary path: /opt/python36/bin/uwsgi setgid() to group setuid() to user your processes number limit is 14335 your memory page size is 4096 bytes detected max file descriptor number: 4096 lock engine: pthread robust mutexes thunder lock: disabled (you can enable it with --thunder-lock) uwsgi socket 0 bound to TCP address 127.0.0.1:8000 fd 3 Python version: 3.6.2 (default, Aug 5 2017, 01:12:58) [GCC 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-11)] PEP 405 virtualenv detected: /opt/Tryton Set PythonHome to /opt/Tryton Python main interpreter initialized at 0xb51930 python threads support enabled your server socket listen backlog is limited to 100 connections your mercy for graceful operations on workers is 60 seconds mapped 166144 bytes (162 KB) for 2 cores *** Operational MODE: threaded *** /opt/Tryton/lib/python3.6/site-packages/trytond/modules/__init__.py:143: DeprecationWarning: This method will be removed in future versions. Use 'parser.read_file()' instead. module_config.readfp(fp) ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'trytond.application.app'; 'trytond.application' is not a package unable to load app 0 (mountpoint='') (callable not found or import error) *** no app loaded. going in full dynamic mode *** *** uWSGI is running in multiple interpreter mode *** spawned uWSGI master process (pid: 13598) spawned uWSGI worker 1 (pid: 13600, cores: 2) ^CSIGINT/SIGQUIT received...killing workers... worker 1 buried after 1 seconds goodbye to uWSGI. (Tryton) root@host [/opt/Tryton]# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "tryton" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tryton/71418d54-9939-486d-bb73-e6b17b07d995%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [tryton] uWSGI: can't find trytond.application.app
El 26/10/17 a les 22:49, PMan ha escrit: Here is the tryton.ini file (with threads enabled): [uwsgi] uid = user gid = group master = True # start in master mode http-socket = 127.0.0.1:8000 # bind to port 8000 enable-threads = true workers = 1 threads = 2 virtualenv = /opt/Tryton # chdir = /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond module = trytond.application.app env = TRYTOND_CONFIG = /opt/Tryton/etc/trytond.conf I tried this with the chdir command commented and uncommented, I got the same results. For me it seems that trytond is not properly installed on the virtualenv (and that's why it's not found) How you installed it? Are you sure you've created the virtualenv in /opt/Tryton ? -- Sergi Almacellas Abellana www.koolpi.com Twitter: @pokoli_srk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "tryton" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tryton/8dfb6b68-627d-0017-1d30-5aca6af3d7db%40koolpi.com.
Re: [tryton] uWSGI: can't find trytond.application.app
Thanks Cedric, I will leave threads enabled for now. Thank you Sergi, I tried that configuration, but got the same results. The only file in the trytond-4.4.4/trytond/modules directory is __init__.py. Here is the error: (Tryton) root@host [/opt/Tryton]# /opt/python36/bin/uwsgi --ini /opt/Tryton/etc/tryton.ini [uWSGI] getting INI configuration from /opt/Tryton/etc/tryton.ini *** Starting uWSGI 2.0.15 (64bit) on [Thu Oct 26 16:27:50 2017] *** compiled with version: 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-16) on 05 October 2017 22:04:37 os: Linux-3.10.0-714.10.2.lve1.4.63.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Aug 20 17:46:23 EDT 2017 nodename: host.mysite.com machine: x86_64 clock source: unix pcre jit disabled detected number of CPU cores: 4 current working directory: /opt/Tryton detected binary path: /opt/python36/bin/uwsgi setgid() to group setuid() to user chdir() to /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond your processes number limit is 14335 your memory page size is 4096 bytes detected max file descriptor number: 4096 lock engine: pthread robust mutexes thunder lock: disabled (you can enable it with --thunder-lock) uwsgi socket 0 bound to TCP address 127.0.0.1:8000 fd 3 Python version: 3.6.2 (default, Aug 5 2017, 01:12:58) [GCC 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-11)] PEP 405 virtualenv detected: /opt/Tryton Set PythonHome to /opt/Tryton Python main interpreter initialized at 0x953960 python threads support enabled your server socket listen backlog is limited to 100 connections your mercy for graceful operations on workers is 60 seconds mapped 166144 bytes (162 KB) for 2 cores *** Operational MODE: threaded *** /opt/Tryton/lib/python3.6/site-packages/trytond-4.4.4-py3.6.egg/trytond/modules/__init__.py:143: DeprecationWarning: This method will be removed in future versions. Use 'parser.read_file()' instead. module_config.readfp(fp) ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'trytond.application.app'; 'trytond.application' is not a package unable to load app 0 (mountpoint='') (callable not found or import error) *** no app loaded. going in full dynamic mode *** *** uWSGI is running in multiple interpreter mode *** spawned uWSGI master process (pid: 826) spawned uWSGI worker 1 (pid: 828, cores: 2) ^CSIGINT/SIGQUIT received...killing workers... worker 1 buried after 1 seconds goodbye to uWSGI. (Tryton) root@host [/opt/Tryton]# Here is the tryton.ini file (with threads enabled): [uwsgi] uid = user gid = group master = True # start in master mode http-socket = 127.0.0.1:8000 # bind to port 8000 enable-threads = true workers = 1 threads = 2 virtualenv = /opt/Tryton # chdir = /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond module = trytond.application.app env = TRYTOND_CONFIG = /opt/Tryton/etc/trytond.conf I tried this with the chdir command commented and uncommented, I got the same results. Regards, Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "tryton" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tryton/019c5d0a-7474-4865-b301-4d0b065f44e2%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [tryton] uWSGI: can't find trytond.application.app
El 26/10/17 a les 02:16, Cédric Krier ha escrit: (Tryton) root@host [/opt/Tryton]# /opt/python36/bin/uwsgi /opt/Tryton/etc/tryton.ini [uWSGI] getting INI configuration from /opt/Tryton/etc/tryton.ini *** Starting uWSGI 2.0.15 (64bit) on [Wed Oct 25 16:13:07 2017] *** compiled with version: 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-16) on 05 October 2017 22:04:37 os: Linux-3.10.0-714.10.2.lve1.4.63.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Aug 20 17:46:23 EDT 2017 nodename: host.mysite.com machine: x86_64 clock source: unix pcre jit disabled detected number of CPU cores: 4 current working directory: /opt/Tryton detected binary path: /opt/python36/bin/uwsgi setgid() to group setuid() to user chdir() to /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond your processes number limit is 14335 your memory page size is 4096 bytes detected max file descriptor number: 4096 lock engine: pthread robust mutexes thunder lock: disabled (you can enable it with --thunder-lock) uWSGI http bound on :8000 fd 4 uwsgi socket 0 bound to TCP address 127.0.0.1:29116 (port auto-assigned) fd 3 Python version: 3.6.2 (default, Aug 5 2017, 01:12:58) [GCC 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-11)] PEP 405 virtualenv detected: /opt/Tryton Set PythonHome to /opt/Tryton Python main interpreter initialized at 0x1eeb9f0 python threads support enabled your server socket listen backlog is limited to 100 connections your mercy for graceful operations on workers is 60 seconds mapped 166144 bytes (162 KB) for 2 cores *** Operational MODE: threaded *** /opt/Tryton/lib/python3.6/site-packages/trytond-4.4.4-py3.6.egg/trytond/modules/__init__.py:143: DeprecationWarning: This method will be removed in future versions. Use 'parser.read_file()' instead. module_config.readfp(fp) unable to find "application" callable in file /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond/application.py unable to load app 0 (mountpoint='') (callable not found or import error) So here it does not find the object to call. It should be app. I guess you must configure: mountpoint='app' but I can not confirm because I can not understand the uwsgi documentation. You should use trytond.mapplication:app as uwsgi module to load. Here is a minimal configuration that works for us: [uwsgi] http-socket=0.0.0.0:8000 module=trytond.application:app Hope it helps. -- Sergi Almacellas Abellana www.koolpi.com Twitter: @pokoli_srk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "tryton" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tryton/28055461-031d-bef0-2a16-21051bf3d6b3%40koolpi.com.
Re: [tryton] uWSGI: can't find trytond.application.app
On 2017-10-25 15:39, PMan wrote: > Thank you. > > I enabled threads in the .ini file but I got the same results: So you can probably re-disable it. > (Tryton) root@host [/opt/Tryton]# /opt/python36/bin/uwsgi > /opt/Tryton/etc/tryton.ini > [uWSGI] getting INI configuration from /opt/Tryton/etc/tryton.ini > *** Starting uWSGI 2.0.15 (64bit) on [Wed Oct 25 16:13:07 2017] *** > compiled with version: 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-16) on 05 October 2017 > 22:04:37 > os: Linux-3.10.0-714.10.2.lve1.4.63.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Aug 20 17:46:23 EDT > 2017 > nodename: host.mysite.com > machine: x86_64 > clock source: unix > pcre jit disabled > detected number of CPU cores: 4 > current working directory: /opt/Tryton > detected binary path: /opt/python36/bin/uwsgi > setgid() to group > setuid() to user > chdir() to /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond > your processes number limit is 14335 > your memory page size is 4096 bytes > detected max file descriptor number: 4096 > lock engine: pthread robust mutexes > thunder lock: disabled (you can enable it with --thunder-lock) > uWSGI http bound on :8000 fd 4 > uwsgi socket 0 bound to TCP address 127.0.0.1:29116 (port auto-assigned) fd 3 > Python version: 3.6.2 (default, Aug 5 2017, 01:12:58) [GCC 4.8.5 20150623 > (Red Hat 4.8.5-11)] > PEP 405 virtualenv detected: /opt/Tryton > Set PythonHome to /opt/Tryton > Python main interpreter initialized at 0x1eeb9f0 > python threads support enabled > your server socket listen backlog is limited to 100 connections > your mercy for graceful operations on workers is 60 seconds > mapped 166144 bytes (162 KB) for 2 cores > *** Operational MODE: threaded *** > /opt/Tryton/lib/python3.6/site-packages/trytond-4.4.4-py3.6.egg/trytond/modules/__init__.py:143: > DeprecationWarning: This method will be removed in future versions. Use > 'parser.read_file()' instead. > module_config.readfp(fp) > unable to find "application" callable in file > /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond/application.py > unable to load app 0 (mountpoint='') (callable not found or import error) So here it does not find the object to call. It should be app. I guess you must configure: mountpoint='app' but I can not confirm because I can not understand the uwsgi documentation. > *** no app loaded. going in full dynamic mode *** > *** uWSGI is running in multiple interpreter mode *** > spawned uWSGI master process (pid: 1339) > spawned uWSGI worker 1 (pid: 1341, cores: 2) > spawned uWSGI http 1 (pid: 1342) > ^CSIGINT/SIGQUIT received...killing workers... > gateway "uWSGI http 1" has been buried (pid: 1342) > worker 1 buried after 1 seconds > goodbye to uWSGI. > (Tryton) root@host [/opt/Tryton]# > > Maybe it doens't matter, but it seems odd that it's running > /opt/Tryton/lib/python3.6/site-packages/trytond-4.4.4-py3.6.egg/trytond/modules/__init__.py > instead of /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond/modules/__init__.py. > > Regards, > Paul -- Cédric Krier - B2CK SPRL Email/Jabber: cedric.kr...@b2ck.com Tel: +32 472 54 46 59 Website: http://www.b2ck.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "tryton" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tryton/20171026001616.GF3623%40kei.
Re: [tryton] uWSGI: can't find trytond.application.app
Thank you. I enabled threads in the .ini file but I got the same results: (Tryton) root@host [/opt/Tryton]# /opt/python36/bin/uwsgi /opt/Tryton/etc/tryton.ini [uWSGI] getting INI configuration from /opt/Tryton/etc/tryton.ini *** Starting uWSGI 2.0.15 (64bit) on [Wed Oct 25 16:13:07 2017] *** compiled with version: 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-16) on 05 October 2017 22:04:37 os: Linux-3.10.0-714.10.2.lve1.4.63.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Aug 20 17:46:23 EDT 2017 nodename: host.mysite.com machine: x86_64 clock source: unix pcre jit disabled detected number of CPU cores: 4 current working directory: /opt/Tryton detected binary path: /opt/python36/bin/uwsgi setgid() to group setuid() to user chdir() to /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond your processes number limit is 14335 your memory page size is 4096 bytes detected max file descriptor number: 4096 lock engine: pthread robust mutexes thunder lock: disabled (you can enable it with --thunder-lock) uWSGI http bound on :8000 fd 4 uwsgi socket 0 bound to TCP address 127.0.0.1:29116 (port auto-assigned) fd 3 Python version: 3.6.2 (default, Aug 5 2017, 01:12:58) [GCC 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-11)] PEP 405 virtualenv detected: /opt/Tryton Set PythonHome to /opt/Tryton Python main interpreter initialized at 0x1eeb9f0 python threads support enabled your server socket listen backlog is limited to 100 connections your mercy for graceful operations on workers is 60 seconds mapped 166144 bytes (162 KB) for 2 cores *** Operational MODE: threaded *** /opt/Tryton/lib/python3.6/site-packages/trytond-4.4.4-py3.6.egg/trytond/modules/__init__.py:143: DeprecationWarning: This method will be removed in future versions. Use 'parser.read_file()' instead. module_config.readfp(fp) unable to find "application" callable in file /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond/application.py unable to load app 0 (mountpoint='') (callable not found or import error) *** no app loaded. going in full dynamic mode *** *** uWSGI is running in multiple interpreter mode *** spawned uWSGI master process (pid: 1339) spawned uWSGI worker 1 (pid: 1341, cores: 2) spawned uWSGI http 1 (pid: 1342) ^CSIGINT/SIGQUIT received...killing workers... gateway "uWSGI http 1" has been buried (pid: 1342) worker 1 buried after 1 seconds goodbye to uWSGI. (Tryton) root@host [/opt/Tryton]# Maybe it doens't matter, but it seems odd that it's running /opt/Tryton/lib/python3.6/site-packages/trytond-4.4.4-py3.6.egg/trytond/modules/__init__.py instead of /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond/modules/__init__.py. Regards, Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "tryton" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tryton/8c27477f-db15-4197-8253-6a6a0b12a88f%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [tryton] uWSGI: can't find trytond.application.app
On 2017-10-24 13:00, PMan wrote: > Python version: 3.6.2 (default, Aug 5 2017, 01:12:58) [GCC 4.8.5 20150623 > (Red Hat 4.8.5-11)] > PEP 405 virtualenv detected: /opt/Tryton > Set PythonHome to /opt/Tryton > *** Python threads support is disabled. You can enable it with > --enable-threads *** It seems you do not have thread on your Python. Tryton uses threading module. I do not know if it may be the problem. -- Cédric Krier - B2CK SPRL Email/Jabber: cedric.kr...@b2ck.com Tel: +32 472 54 46 59 Website: http://www.b2ck.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "tryton" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tryton/20171025084920.GU3623%40kei.
[tryton] uWSGI: can't find trytond.application.app
Greetings; I have successfully started the standalone trytond, and now I am trying to run trytond behind uWSGI. My environment: Postgres 9.6 Python 3.6 trytond 4.4.1 sao 4.4.1 uwsgi (installed via pip3) 2.0.15 Here is the iwsgi .ini file (tryton.ini): [uwsgi] uid = user gid = user master = True # start in master mode http = :8000 # bind to port 8000 workers = 1 # run 4 worker processes virtualenv = /opt/Tryton file = /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond/application.py env = TRYTOND_CONFIG = /opt/Tryton/etc/trytond.conf chdir = /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond Here is trytond.conf: # /etc/tryton/trytond.conf - Configuration file for Tryton Server # (trytond, trytond-admin, trytond-cron) [web] # Settings for the web interface # The IP/host and port number of the interface listen = localhost:8000 # The hostname for this interface #hostname = # The root path to retrieve data for GET requests root = /opt/Tryton/sao-4.4.4 [database] # Database related settings # The URI to connect to the SQL database (following RFC-3986) uri = PostgreSQL://username:'password'@localhost:5432 # The path to the directory where the Tryton Server stores files. # The server must have write permissions to this directory. # (Internal default: /var/lib/trytond) path = /opt/Tryton/var/lib/files [session] # Session settings # The time (in seconds) until an inactive session expires timeout = 300 When I start uwsgi, I get the following errors: (Tryton) root@host [/opt/Tryton]# /opt/python36/bin/uwsgi /opt/Tryton/etc/tryton.ini [uWSGI] getting INI configuration from /opt/Tryton/etc/tryton.ini *** Starting uWSGI 2.0.15 (64bit) on [Tue Oct 24 15:53:37 2017] *** compiled with version: 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-16) on 05 October 2017 22:04:37 os: Linux-3.10.0-714.10.2.lve1.4.63.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Aug 20 17:46:23 EDT 2017 nodename: host.mysite.com machine: x86_64 clock source: unix pcre jit disabled current working directory: /opt/Tryton detected binary path: /opt/python36/bin/uwsgi setgid() to group setuid() to user chdir() to /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond your processes number limit is 14335 your memory page size is 4096 bytes detected max file descriptor number: 4096 lock engine: pthread robust mutexes thunder lock: disabled (you can enable it with --thunder-lock) uWSGI http bound on :8000 fd 4 uwsgi socket 0 bound to TCP address 127.0.0.1:23274 (port auto-assigned) fd 3 Python version: 3.6.2 (default, Aug 5 2017, 01:12:58) [GCC 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-11)] PEP 405 virtualenv detected: /opt/Tryton Set PythonHome to /opt/Tryton *** Python threads support is disabled. You can enable it with --enable-threads *** Python main interpreter initialized at 0x14f9980 your server socket listen backlog is limited to 100 connections your mercy for graceful operations on workers is 60 seconds mapped 145536 bytes (142 KB) for 1 cores *** Operational MODE: single process *** /opt/Tryton/lib/python3.6/site-packages/trytond-4.4.4-py3.6.egg/trytond/modules/__init__.py:143: DeprecationWarning: This method will be removed in future versions. Use 'parser.read_file()' instead. module_config.readfp(fp) unable to find "application" callable in file /opt/Tryton/trytond-4.4.4/trytond/application.py unable to load app 0 (mountpoint='') (callable not found or import error) *** no app loaded. going in full dynamic mode *** *** uWSGI is running in multiple interpreter mode *** spawned uWSGI master process (pid: 1210) spawned uWSGI worker 1 (pid: 1212, cores: 1) spawned uWSGI http 1 (pid: 1213) ^CSIGINT/SIGQUIT received...killing workers... gateway "uWSGI http 1" has been buried (pid: 1213) worker 1 buried after 1 seconds goodbye to uWSGI. (Tryton) root@host [/opt/Tryton]# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "tryton" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tryton/6b6b6a1f-b813-4386-bb0d-01741d010b56%40googlegroups.com.