Re: [Java SDO] Tuscany SDO Java 1.1-incubating

2008-01-18 Thread Amita Vadhavkar
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Regards,
Amita

On Jan 18, 2008 4:08 PM, Amita Vadhavkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks Kelvin, will look at all these points. Also,
> I used rat-5.0.jar and got the report at - 
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/RAT+Report
>
> Please see "Unresolved" section in it and give comments about what is
> appropriate to fix there.
>
> Regards,
> Amita
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2008 3:56 PM, kelvin goodson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > On 18/01/2008, Amita Vadhavkar < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Assuming name of the release as Tuscany SDO Java 1.1-incubating and
> > > keeping
> > > ref. to the
> > > old mail thread -
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg27168.html.
> > > I am starting a new thread now.
> > >
> > > Web Site documentation:- I could gather a few places where small
> > updates
> > > can
> > > be done. Please give your comments
> > > if these seem fine or need something more/something else.
> > >
> > > 1) why on
> > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-get-involved.htmlwe
> > > have -
> > > Open CSA (SCA Standards)
> >
> >
> > This is confusing and needs investigating.  I think you are talking
> > about
> > the transition from ...
> > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java.html
> > to
> > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-get-involved.html
> >
> > In which case the "Get Involved" is a link from the "general" menu and
> > therefore  is general to Tuscany.  However,  the page is entitled "SDO
> > Java
> > Get Involved",  yet seems identical to the "Get Involved" page from the
> > Tuscany Home page's Community menu apart from the fact that this page is
> >
> > entitled "Getting Involved: Apache Tuscany".  I'm sure we used to have
> > our
> > own SDO Java getting involved page,  and I think it has accidentally
> > been
> > overwritten at some stage.  I guess we need to look at the wiki change
> > history and see if we can recover it.
> >
> > 2) changes in
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/tuscany-sdo-java-faq.htmlfor
> > > new features, improvements
> >
> >
> > I'm a bit confused here.  I think maybe you have two separate ideas that
> > have been merged perhaps.  I don't think we want to detail new features
> > on
> > the FAQ page.
> >
> > TUSCANY-1468 - Use HelperContext for scope in Tuscany API
> > > TUSCANY-1128 - Support attribute and element with same name
> > > TUSCANY-1359 - New SDOUtil: Upper and lower bound on properties where
> > > 'isMany' is true
> > > CTS TUSCANY-1230 - Improvements to TypeConversionTest
> >
> >
> > Something I meant to mention in regards to your other posting is that
> > the
> > CTS is not part of an SDO Java release.  We haven't ever  "released" the
> >
> > CTS,  since  it's never yet seemed to make sense to do so.  SDO
> > implementers
> > who want to use the CTS can download the source.  I think what we want
> > to do
> > here is a respin of the kind of release we have done before,  for the
> > SDO
> > Java runtime.
> >
> > Is there anything else from
> > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/SDO+Java+Project
> >
> > > that can be added to it? Also do the above mentioned JIRAs useful as
> > part
> > > of
> > > FAQ, or mention in Release Notes will
> > > be sufficient?
> >
> >
> > I see now.  Yes, release notes are definitely the place for this.
> >
> > 3) http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/tuscany-sdo-java-faq.html page
> > does
> > > not have menu
> >
> >
> >  Good point
> >
> > 4) http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-project-code-structure.htmlno
> > > menu , old structure
> >
> >
> > you are right,  we need to add a section for the lib project and the
> > tools-test project
> >
> > 5) http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/getting-source.html no menu and
> > old
> > > structure
> >
> >
> >  again, yes, this doesn't reflect the move of the api project into the
> > main
> > sdo trunk
> >
> > 6) developer guide - should we refer to
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sca-java-development-guide.htmland
> > > make SDO Dev Guide more complete?
> >
> >
> >  I think ideally we would incorporate some of the new content from the
> > sca
> > guide into an sdo guide.  If the SCA guide is built up by wiki include
> > directives, there may be scope for including generic chunks into out own
> >
> > guide.
> >
> > 7) http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-user-guide.html again no
> > > menu
> > > can refer to
> > http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sca-java-user-guide.html
> > >
> > > 8) TUSCANY-1026
> > > Also, why
> > >
> > >
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sdo/distribution/src/main/release/bin/samples/sampleProgramContents.html
> > > opens the html pa

Re: [Java SDO] Tuscany SDO Java 1.1-incubating

2008-01-18 Thread kelvin goodson
On 18/01/2008, Amita Vadhavkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Assuming name of the release as Tuscany SDO Java 1.1-incubating and
> keeping
> ref. to the
> old mail thread -
> http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg27168.html.
> I am starting a new thread now.
>
> Web Site documentation:- I could gather a few places where small updates
> can
> be done. Please give your comments
> if these seem fine or need something more/something else.
>
> 1) why on http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-get-involved.htmlwe
> have -
> Open CSA (SCA Standards)


This is confusing and needs investigating.  I think you are talking about
the transition from ...
http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java.html
to
http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-get-involved.html

In which case the "Get Involved" is a link from the "general" menu and
therefore  is general to Tuscany.  However,  the page is entitled "SDO Java
Get Involved",  yet seems identical to the "Get Involved" page from the
Tuscany Home page's Community menu apart from the fact that this page is
entitled "Getting Involved: Apache Tuscany".  I'm sure we used to have our
own SDO Java getting involved page,  and I think it has accidentally been
overwritten at some stage.  I guess we need to look at the wiki change
history and see if we can recover it.

2) changes in
> http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/tuscany-sdo-java-faq.htmlfor
> new features, improvements


I'm a bit confused here.  I think maybe you have two separate ideas that
have been merged perhaps.  I don't think we want to detail new features on
the FAQ page.

TUSCANY-1468 - Use HelperContext for scope in Tuscany API
> TUSCANY-1128 - Support attribute and element with same name
> TUSCANY-1359 - New SDOUtil: Upper and lower bound on properties where
> 'isMany' is true
> CTS TUSCANY-1230 - Improvements to TypeConversionTest


Something I meant to mention in regards to your other posting is that the
CTS is not part of an SDO Java release.  We haven't ever  "released" the
CTS,  since  it's never yet seemed to make sense to do so.  SDO implementers
who want to use the CTS can download the source.  I think what we want to do
here is a respin of the kind of release we have done before,  for the SDO
Java runtime.

Is there anything else from
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/SDO+Java+Project
> that can be added to it? Also do the above mentioned JIRAs useful as part
> of
> FAQ, or mention in Release Notes will
> be sufficient?


I see now.  Yes, release notes are definitely the place for this.

3) http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/tuscany-sdo-java-faq.html page does
> not have menu


 Good point

4) http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-project-code-structure.html no
> menu , old structure


you are right,  we need to add a section for the lib project and the
tools-test project

5) http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/getting-source.html no menu and old
> structure


 again, yes, this doesn't reflect the move of the api project into the main
sdo trunk

6) developer guide - should we refer to
> http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sca-java-development-guide.html and
> make SDO Dev Guide more complete?


 I think ideally we would incorporate some of the new content from the sca
guide into an sdo guide.  If the SCA guide is built up by wiki include
directives, there may be scope for including generic chunks into out own
guide.

7) http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-user-guide.html again no
> menu
> can refer to http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sca-java-user-guide.html
>
> 8) TUSCANY-1026
> Also, why
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sdo/distribution/src/main/release/bin/samples/sampleProgramContents.html
> opens the html page without browser rendering it as html? (like shows all
> html tags etc.)


I think this is a firefox issue.  It's fine in IE. Not sure why it's wrong
in firefox though.

Can we provide this link in
> http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-user-guide.html


This looks like a useful rework of some of the content that I  think is
already in the site.  It certainly was at one time.

9) TUSCANY-1531
> From this - comment #1 - Some pages are only available on the left menu on
> this page : http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/developing-sdo-java.html
> It should probably be listed/visible from :
> http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-documentation-menu.html as
> it's
> one of the pages with more contents on it.
> looks like is fixed.


great

And with 7) we can fix comment #2 - User guide has wrong styles :
> http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-user-guide.html


fine

Thanks Amita for this useful review.  I'll pick some of these things up.
Can you let me know which you plan to do and which you would like me to do?
Anyone else watching this thread is of course more than welcome to pitch in
too.

Kelvin.

Regards,
> Amita
>


[Java SDO] Tuscany SDO Java 1.1-incubating

2008-01-18 Thread Amita Vadhavkar
Assuming name of the release as Tuscany SDO Java 1.1-incubating and keeping
ref. to the
old mail thread -
http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg27168.html.
I am starting a new thread now.

Web Site documentation:- I could gather a few places where small updates can
be done. Please give your comments
if these seem fine or need something more/something else.

1) why on http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-get-involved.html we
have -
Open CSA (SCA Standards)

2) changes in http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/tuscany-sdo-java-faq.htmlfor
new features, improvements

TUSCANY-1468 - Use HelperContext for scope in Tuscany API
TUSCANY-1128 - Support attribute and element with same name
TUSCANY-1359 - New SDOUtil: Upper and lower bound on properties where
'isMany' is true
CTS TUSCANY-1230 - Improvements to TypeConversionTest

Is there anything else from
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/SDO+Java+Project
that can be added to it? Also do the above mentioned JIRAs useful as part of
FAQ, or mention in Release Notes will
be sufficient?

3) http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/tuscany-sdo-java-faq.html page does
not have menu

4) http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-project-code-structure.html no
menu , old structure

5) http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/getting-source.html no menu and old
structure

6) developer guide - should we refer to
http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sca-java-development-guide.html and
make SDO Dev Guide more complete?

7) http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-user-guide.html again no
menu
can refer to http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sca-java-user-guide.html

8) TUSCANY-1026
Also, why
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sdo/distribution/src/main/release/bin/samples/sampleProgramContents.html
opens the html page without browser rendering it as html? (like shows all
html tags etc.)

Can we provide this link in
http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-user-guide.html

9) TUSCANY-1531
>From this - comment #1 - Some pages are only available on the left menu on
this page : http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/developing-sdo-java.html
It should probably be listed/visible from :
http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-documentation-menu.html as it's
one of the pages with more contents on it.
looks like is fixed.
And with 7) we can fix comment #2 - User guide has wrong styles :
http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-user-guide.html

Regards,
Amita