SCA WS-BPEL - Initial support available
This is a quick note to let the community know that I managed to get initial WS-BPEL component implementation ready just in time for our SCA 1.0 release. As described in [1] and [2], we can now invoke executables WS-BPEL process from an SCA runtime. As for a WS-BPEL engine, we are using Apache ODE [3][4].The current implementation.bpel is available in trunk at [5] and you can see a simple helloWorld BPEL process being invoked. I'm working on a new sample to better demonstrate the usage of this new component type, I'll also look into references as well. I'd also like to Thank all the help from the ODE community, especially Matthieu Riou. [1] http://osoa.org/display/Main/SCA+BPEL+White+Paper [2] http://osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100.pdf?version=1 [3] http://ode.apache.org [4] http://www.infoq.com/articles/paul-brown-ode [5] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/ -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCA WS-BPEL - Initial support available
On 9/15/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a quick note to let the community know that I managed to get initial WS-BPEL component implementation ready just in time for our SCA 1.0 release. As described in [1] and [2], we can now invoke executables WS-BPEL process from an SCA runtime. As for a WS-BPEL engine, we are using Apache ODE [3][4].The current implementation.bpel is available in trunk at [5] and you can see a simple helloWorld BPEL process being invoked. I'm working on a new sample to better demonstrate the usage of this new component type, I'll also look into references as well. Congrats for your hard work Luciano! Can't wait till I give it a try. I wonder whether there're any samples you dream of having in Tuscany distro, but don't have time to work on? Could you share some ideas? Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCA WS-BPEL - Initial support available
Super! Thanks Luciano! Matthieu On 9/15/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a quick note to let the community know that I managed to get initial WS-BPEL component implementation ready just in time for our SCA 1.0 release. As described in [1] and [2], we can now invoke executables WS-BPEL process from an SCA runtime. As for a WS-BPEL engine, we are using Apache ODE [3][4].The current implementation.bpel is available in trunk at [5] and you can see a simple helloWorld BPEL process being invoked. I'm working on a new sample to better demonstrate the usage of this new component type, I'll also look into references as well. I'd also like to Thank all the help from the ODE community, especially Matthieu Riou. [1] http://osoa.org/display/Main/SCA+BPEL+White+Paper [2] http://osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100.pdf?version=1 [3] http://ode.apache.org [4] http://www.infoq.com/articles/paul-brown-ode [5] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/ -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: svn commit: r551409 - in /incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel: lib/ lib/maven-artifact-ant-2.0.4-dep.jar pom.xml src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/sca/implementation/bpel/ode/Emb
How come this ant jar needs to be checked into our svn and can't be got like usual maven dependencies? (just trying to understand whats going on) ...ant On 6/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: lresende Date: Wed Jun 27 17:03:00 2007 New Revision: 551409 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrev=551409 Log: TTUSCANY-1394 - Applying patch from Mathieu Riou Added: incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/lib/ incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/lib/maven- artifact-ant-2.0.4-dep.jar (with props) Modified: incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/pom.xml incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/sca/implementation/bpel/ode/EmbeddedODEServer.java Added: incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/lib/maven- artifact-ant-2.0.4-dep.jar URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/lib/maven-artifact-ant-2.0.4-dep.jar?view=autorev=551409 == Binary file - no diff available. Propchange: incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/lib/maven- artifact-ant-2.0.4-dep.jar -- svn:mime-type = application/octet-stream Modified: incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/pom.xml URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/pom.xml?view=diffrev=551409r1=551408r2=551409 == --- incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/pom.xml (original) +++ incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/pom.xml Wed Jun 27 17:03:00 2007 @@ -102,42 +102,42 @@ dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode/groupId artifactIdode-bpel-epr/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating /version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode/groupId artifactIdode-bpel-dao/artifactId -version 1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode/groupId artifactIdode-bpel-dao/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode /groupId artifactIdode-dao-jpa/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode/groupId artifactIdode-bpel-runtime/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode/groupId artifactIdode-bpel-api/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode /groupId artifactIdode-bpel-scheduler-quartz/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode/groupId artifactIdode-utils/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT /version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency !-- ODE Dependencies -- @@ -213,4 +213,26 @@ /dependency /dependencies + +build +plugins +plugin +artifactIdmaven-antrun-plugin/artifactId +groupId org.apache.maven.plugins/groupId + +executions +execution +phasetest-compile/phase +goalsgoalrun/goal/goals +configuration +tasks +ant antfile=build.xml target=test-db inheritRefs=true/ +/tasks +/configuration +/execution +/executions +/plugin +/plugins +/build + /project Modified: incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/sca/implementation/bpel/ode/EmbeddedODEServer.java URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/sca/implementation/bpel/ode/EmbeddedODEServer.java?view=diffrev=551409r1=551408r2=551409 == --- incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/sca/implementation/bpel/ode/EmbeddedODEServer.java (original) +++ incubator
Re: svn commit: r551409 - in /incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel: lib/ lib/maven-artifact-ant-2.0.4-dep.jar pom.xml src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/sca/implementation/bpel/ode/Emb
I have changed this to use the maven plugin for unpack the ODE DB and removed the lib directory. This was done under revision #551630. On 6/28/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How come this ant jar needs to be checked into our svn and can't be got like usual maven dependencies? (just trying to understand whats going on) ...ant On 6/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: lresende Date: Wed Jun 27 17:03:00 2007 New Revision: 551409 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrev=551409 Log: TTUSCANY-1394 - Applying patch from Mathieu Riou Added: incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/lib/ incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/lib/maven- artifact-ant-2.0.4-dep.jar (with props) Modified: incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/pom.xml incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/sca/implementation/bpel/ode/EmbeddedODEServer.java Added: incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/lib/maven- artifact-ant-2.0.4-dep.jar URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/lib/maven-artifact-ant-2.0.4-dep.jar?view=autorev=551409 == Binary file - no diff available. Propchange: incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/lib/maven- artifact-ant-2.0.4-dep.jar -- svn:mime-type = application/octet-stream Modified: incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/pom.xml URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/pom.xml?view=diffrev=551409r1=551408r2=551409 == --- incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/pom.xml (original) +++ incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/pom.xml Wed Jun 27 17:03:00 2007 @@ -102,42 +102,42 @@ dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode/groupId artifactIdode-bpel-epr/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating /version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode/groupId artifactIdode-bpel-dao/artifactId -version 1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode/groupId artifactIdode-bpel-dao/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode /groupId artifactIdode-dao-jpa/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode/groupId artifactIdode-bpel-runtime/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode/groupId artifactIdode-bpel-api/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode /groupId artifactIdode-bpel-scheduler-quartz/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency dependency groupIdorg.apache.ode/groupId artifactIdode-utils/artifactId -version1.1-SNAPSHOT /version +version1.0-incubating/version /dependency !-- ODE Dependencies -- @@ -213,4 +213,26 @@ /dependency /dependencies + +build +plugins +plugin +artifactIdmaven-antrun-plugin/artifactId +groupId org.apache.maven.plugins/groupId + +executions +execution +phasetest-compile/phase +goalsgoalrun/goal/goals +configuration +tasks +ant antfile=build.xml target=test-db inheritRefs=true/ +/tasks +/configuration +/execution +/executions +/plugin +/plugins +/build + /project Modified: incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/sca/implementation/bpel/ode/EmbeddedODEServer.java URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/src/main/java/org/apache/tuscany/sca/implementation/bpel/ode
Re: SCA WS-BPEL
Hello, This is regarding the integration of Apache ODE and Apache Tuscany ! I have contributed a container in Apache Tuscnay for BPEL which was an initial startup http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-897 I think that was during M2 release [ During the month of Dec 2006 ] I want to contribute more for the integration because I had been working on it before . I replied to Luciano's mail regarding this in Apache ODE ML but accidentally I missed Tuscany ML. So I just want to inform you guys ! Sam Tam. On 6/9/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All I'm sending this e-mail to reactivate the collaboration between Apache Tuscany and Apache ODE as initiated by Matthieu a while ago[1]. It would be great if we could have an WS-BPEL component implementation described in [2] and [3], where we would be able to run executables WS-BPEL process from an SCA runtime. In order to get this started, I have put together a skeleton that we could use as the bases for implementation.bepel and it's available at [4]. I'm in the middle of simplifying it further, and I'll keep you guys posted of my progress. [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg10042.html [2] http://osoa.org/display/Main/SCA+BPEL+White+Paper [3] http://osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100.pdf?version=1 [4] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/ -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ --
Re: SCA WS-BPEL
Hi Sam, I'll have a deeper look at this today or tomorrow. I'll certainly have a look at what you've contributed so far. My understanding is that Tuscany's SPIs have significantly changed so we may be better off starting from scratch from the skeleton Luciano has created and import (understand copy/paste) the code you've already done gradually (tweaking what needs to be tweaked). Anyway I'll create a new issue for this, trying to merge the new skeleton and what you've done before and maybe we can start from that. Cheers, Matthieu On 6/14/07, sam tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, This is regarding the integration of Apache ODE and Apache Tuscany ! I have contributed a container in Apache Tuscnay for BPEL which was an initial startup http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-897 I think that was during M2 release [ During the month of Dec 2006 ] I want to contribute more for the integration because I had been working on it before . I replied to Luciano's mail regarding this in Apache ODE ML but accidentally I missed Tuscany ML. So I just want to inform you guys ! Sam Tam. On 6/9/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All I'm sending this e-mail to reactivate the collaboration between Apache Tuscany and Apache ODE as initiated by Matthieu a while ago[1]. It would be great if we could have an WS-BPEL component implementation described in [2] and [3], where we would be able to run executables WS-BPEL process from an SCA runtime. In order to get this started, I have put together a skeleton that we could use as the bases for implementation.bepel and it's available at [4]. I'm in the middle of simplifying it further, and I'll keep you guys posted of my progress. [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg10042.html [2] http://osoa.org/display/Main/SCA+BPEL+White+Paper [3] http://osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100.pdf?version=1 [4] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/ -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ --
SCA WS-BPEL
Hi All I'm sending this e-mail to reactivate the collaboration between Apache Tuscany and Apache ODE as initiated by Matthieu a while ago[1]. It would be great if we could have an WS-BPEL component implementation described in [2] and [3], where we would be able to run executables WS-BPEL process from an SCA runtime. In order to get this started, I have put together a skeleton that we could use as the bases for implementation.bepel and it's available at [4]. I'm in the middle of simplifying it further, and I'll keep you guys posted of my progress. [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg10042.html [2] http://osoa.org/display/Main/SCA+BPEL+White+Paper [3] http://osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100.pdf?version=1 [4] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel/ -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCA and BPEL
Hi Sam,
I've had a look at your implementation and played with a couple of things on
my side as well. I think I have a much better idea of how things can play
with each other now and how to solve your problems.
- For server instantiation, you should create a separate component for it
with @Init and @Destroy annotations. I've made a rough implementation of it
and I think you could take it and start from that. You'll just have to add
the component as a system implementation in your bpel.system.cdl. I'll
attach the java file to the same Jira issue. Then you can have this injected
in the BpelComponentBuilder using a constructor like:
public BpelComponentBuilder(@Autowire BpelServerLoader serverLoader) {
_server = serverLoader.getServer();
_store = serverLoader.getStore();
}
That should fix the server instantiation problem.
- For the binding part you will need to go through a real remote web service
invocation. Check of the Tuscany helloworldws is structured with the
sample-helloworldws web application being deployed in Tomcat and the client
sample-helloworldwsclient calling it remotely. I think you can even reuse
the client almost as is. However the server side should change to something
like:
service name=HelloWorldBPELService
interface.wsdl interface=
http://ode/bpel/unit-test.wsdl#wsdl.interface(HelloPortType)
wsdli:wsdlLocation=http://ode/bpel/unit-test.wsdl
HelloWorld2.wsdl/
binding.ws endpoint=
http://ode/bpel/unit-test.wsdl#wsdl.endpoint(HelloService/HelloPort)
location=HelloWorld2.wsdl /
referenceHelloWorldBPELComponent/reference
/service
component name=HelloWorldBPELComponent
bpel:implementation.bpeldepDir=/home/dusty/Dev/Projects/tuscany/sca/services/containers/container.bpel/src/test/resources/HelloWorld2
serviceId=http://ode/bpel/unit-test.wsdlHelloService/
/component
Again check the Tuscany sample-helloworldws service declaration, it's almost
the same except for the implementation that will be BPEL in our case instead
of java. You can even use the same type of SDO databinding So you will need
to package the BPEL container on the server side in Tomcat and that should
get loaded.
Let me know if you need more,
Matthieu
On 11/26/06, sam tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Guys..
As discussed earlier about Integration of SCA(Apache Tuscany) and BPEL
(Apache Ode),
I have started with a bpel container for Apache Tuscany(SCA).
Also i have attached a small readme file .
And a test case file also.
The link for the attached source is :
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-897?page=all
Comments:
Things to do :
- need to figure out a better way than instantiating the server for every
component
- need to bring in databinding into the invoke method to be able to
convert
java objects to xml that can be sent over ODE requests and also do the
reverse for the response.
Guys I need your feedback on this !!! Plz share your ideas . !!.
Sam..Tam...
___
On 10/29/06, sam tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That would be fine with me Ant. I am residing in India ..So to confirm
:
Thursday 4pm BST !
Sam...
On 10/29/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thats fine for me, how about you Sam?
...ant
On 10/27/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually most Ode committers (including myself) are in California.
Also
we're going to be a bit busy early next week. So would 4pm BST (8am
PST) on
Thursday work for you?
On 10/27/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure ok I guess an IRC chat would be fine to get started. I'm in
UK
time
zone but can be pretty flexible about scheduling it. How about
9:30am BST
next Tuesday?
..ant
On 10/26/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
So what about an IRC session to get started? Everybody
interested
could come to ask questions and we would discuss in more details
how this
could be done. We can both exchange our views on SCA / BPEL and
give as much
information as possible to the volunteers (like Sam [1]).
What do you think?
Matthieu
[1]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200610.mbox/[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
On 10/25/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/25/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
This e-mail is being sent to both Apache Ode and Tuscany
development mailing
lists.
The objective is to see which possible collaboration could
happen
between
our 2 projects and how we could integrate them. Alex, Cory
and
myself (we're
all Ode contributors) met with Jean-Sebastien Delfino and
Simon
Laws
(Tuscany contributors) during the ApacheCon in Austin and
we've
found out
Re: SCA and BPEL
Hello Guys.. As discussed earlier about Integration of SCA(Apache Tuscany) and BPEL (Apache Ode), I have started with a bpel container for Apache Tuscany(SCA). Also i have attached a small readme file . And a test case file also. The link for the attached source is : http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-897?page=all Comments: Things to do : - need to figure out a better way than instantiating the server for every component - need to bring in databinding into the invoke method to be able to convert java objects to xml that can be sent over ODE requests and also do the reverse for the response. Guys I need your feedback on this !!! Plz share your ideas . !!. Sam..Tam... ___ On 10/29/06, sam tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be fine with me Ant. I am residing in India ..So to confirm : Thursday 4pm BST ! Sam... On 10/29/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats fine for me, how about you Sam? ...ant On 10/27/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually most Ode committers (including myself) are in California. Also we're going to be a bit busy early next week. So would 4pm BST (8am PST) on Thursday work for you? On 10/27/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure ok I guess an IRC chat would be fine to get started. I'm in UK time zone but can be pretty flexible about scheduling it. How about 9:30am BST next Tuesday? ..ant On 10/26/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, So what about an IRC session to get started? Everybody interested could come to ask questions and we would discuss in more details how this could be done. We can both exchange our views on SCA / BPEL and give as much information as possible to the volunteers (like Sam [1]). What do you think? Matthieu [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200610.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/25/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This e-mail is being sent to both Apache Ode and Tuscany development mailing lists. The objective is to see which possible collaboration could happen between our 2 projects and how we could integrate them. Alex, Cory and myself (we're all Ode contributors) met with Jean-Sebastien Delfino and Simon Laws (Tuscany contributors) during the ApacheCon in Austin and we've found out that integrating Ode into Tuscany could be a brilliant idea. From the Tuscany side, there's an SCA client and implementation spec for BPEL. Roughly, it defines how a BPEL process can be used as an SCA component (or at least that's my understanding of it). So I guess Ode could be a good choice for the BPEL part of that. From the Apache Ode perspective, we've defined an interface to the engine ( a.k.a. the integration API or IAPI for acromyn lovers) and we would like to support several integration scenarii. Currently we have an integration layer for Axis2 to support all web services interactions, we also have one for JBI and another one for CXF has been proposed. We would love to have an implementation of these interfaces for Tuscany to be able to run Ode in an SCA environment (for the curious, the interfaces are herehttps://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/bpel-api/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/bpel/iapi/ ). I think the discussion (if discussion there is) should take place on tuscany-dev as there's less of us, Ode people, so it's easier for us to subscribe to it. So what would it take to fit into Tuscany? Thanks, Matthieu Hi Matthieu, this would be really great, i'd love for Tuscany to get a involved with Ode to get a BPEL component. For those that haven't found these already there's a white paper on SCA and BPEL [1] and a specification [2]. You can see the type of thing required to implement a container for a new component type in Tuscany by looking at some of our existing ones [3] I agree it may be easiest for the discussions to be over here initially, but i've subscribed to ode-dev as well anyway. I'd be very happy to help you do this, how would you like to get started? ...ant [1] http://osoa.org/display/Main/SCA+BPEL+White+Paper [2] http://osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_v0.95.pdf?version=2 [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/services/containers/
Re: IRC chat on Ode/Tuscany integration: Thursday 2nd Nov 4pm GMT/8amPST (was Re: SCA and BPEL)
As discussed, I've created an empty skeleton container for this at: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/services/containers/container.bpel/ There's a JIRA for attaching patches to at: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-897 Starting sending your patches! ...ant
Re: IRC chat on Ode/Tuscany integration: Thursday 2nd Nov 4pm GMT/8amPST (was Re: SCA and BPEL)
Thanks ant! On 11/3/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As discussed, I've created an empty skeleton container for this at: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/services/containers/container.bpel/ There's a JIRA for attaching patches to at: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-897 Starting sending your patches! ...ant
IRC chat on Ode/Tuscany integration: Thursday 2nd Nov 4pm GMT/8amPST (was Re: SCA and BPEL)
As discussed, they will be an IRC chat to aid getting started with an Apache Ode component for Tuscany. The chat will take place on the freenode IRC network, (use server irc.freenode.net), on channel #tuscany at: 4PM GMT, 8AM PST, 9:30PM India Thursday 2nd November Everyone is welcome to join in. ...ant On 10/29/06, sam tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be fine with me Ant. I am residing in India ..So to confirm : Thursday 4pm BST ! Sam... On 10/29/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats fine for me, how about you Sam? ...ant On 10/27/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually most Ode committers (including myself) are in California. Also we're going to be a bit busy early next week. So would 4pm BST (8am PST) on Thursday work for you? On 10/27/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure ok I guess an IRC chat would be fine to get started. I'm in UK time zone but can be pretty flexible about scheduling it. How about 9:30am BST next Tuesday? ..ant On 10/26/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, So what about an IRC session to get started? Everybody interested could come to ask questions and we would discuss in more details how this could be done. We can both exchange our views on SCA / BPEL and give as much information as possible to the volunteers (like Sam [1]). What do you think? Matthieu [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200610.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/25/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This e-mail is being sent to both Apache Ode and Tuscany development mailing lists. The objective is to see which possible collaboration could happen between our 2 projects and how we could integrate them. Alex, Cory and myself (we're all Ode contributors) met with Jean-Sebastien Delfino and Simon Laws (Tuscany contributors) during the ApacheCon in Austin and we've found out that integrating Ode into Tuscany could be a brilliant idea. From the Tuscany side, there's an SCA client and implementation spec for BPEL. Roughly, it defines how a BPEL process can be used as an SCA component (or at least that's my understanding of it). So I guess Ode could be a good choice for the BPEL part of that. From the Apache Ode perspective, we've defined an interface to the engine ( a.k.a. the integration API or IAPI for acromyn lovers) and we would like to support several integration scenarii. Currently we have an integration layer for Axis2 to support all web services interactions, we also have one for JBI and another one for CXF has been proposed. We would love to have an implementation of these interfaces for Tuscany to be able to run Ode in an SCA environment (for the curious, the interfaces are here https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/bpel-api/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/bpel/iapi/ ). I think the discussion (if discussion there is) should take place on tuscany-dev as there's less of us, Ode people, so it's easier for us to subscribe to it. So what would it take to fit into Tuscany? Thanks, Matthieu Hi Matthieu, this would be really great, i'd love for Tuscany to get a involved with Ode to get a BPEL component. For those that haven't found these already there's a white paper on SCA and BPEL [1] and a specification [2]. You can see the type of thing required to implement a container for a new component type in Tuscany by looking at some of our existing ones [3] I agree it may be easiest for the discussions to be over here initially, but i've subscribed to ode-dev as well anyway. I'd be very happy to help you do this, how would you like to get started? ...ant [1] http://osoa.org/display/Main/SCA+BPEL+White+Paper [2] http://osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_v0.95.pdf?version=2 [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/services/containers/ -- Catch Me @: www.samjeyam.co.nr The Engine is the Heart of the Plane but Pilot is the Soul... \___(0)___/ ./ \.
Re: SCA and BPEL
Thats fine for me, how about you Sam? ...ant On 10/27/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually most Ode committers (including myself) are in California. Also we're going to be a bit busy early next week. So would 4pm BST (8am PST) on Thursday work for you? On 10/27/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure ok I guess an IRC chat would be fine to get started. I'm in UK time zone but can be pretty flexible about scheduling it. How about 9:30am BST next Tuesday? ..ant On 10/26/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, So what about an IRC session to get started? Everybody interested could come to ask questions and we would discuss in more details how this could be done. We can both exchange our views on SCA / BPEL and give as much information as possible to the volunteers (like Sam [1]). What do you think? Matthieu [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200610.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/25/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This e-mail is being sent to both Apache Ode and Tuscany development mailing lists. The objective is to see which possible collaboration could happen between our 2 projects and how we could integrate them. Alex, Cory and myself (we're all Ode contributors) met with Jean-Sebastien Delfino and Simon Laws (Tuscany contributors) during the ApacheCon in Austin and we've found out that integrating Ode into Tuscany could be a brilliant idea. From the Tuscany side, there's an SCA client and implementation spec for BPEL. Roughly, it defines how a BPEL process can be used as an SCA component (or at least that's my understanding of it). So I guess Ode could be a good choice for the BPEL part of that. From the Apache Ode perspective, we've defined an interface to the engine ( a.k.a. the integration API or IAPI for acromyn lovers) and we would like to support several integration scenarii. Currently we have an integration layer for Axis2 to support all web services interactions, we also have one for JBI and another one for CXF has been proposed. We would love to have an implementation of these interfaces for Tuscany to be able to run Ode in an SCA environment (for the curious, the interfaces are herehttps://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/bpel-api/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/bpel/iapi/ ). I think the discussion (if discussion there is) should take place on tuscany-dev as there's less of us, Ode people, so it's easier for us to subscribe to it. So what would it take to fit into Tuscany? Thanks, Matthieu Hi Matthieu, this would be really great, i'd love for Tuscany to get a involved with Ode to get a BPEL component. For those that haven't found these already there's a white paper on SCA and BPEL [1] and a specification [2]. You can see the type of thing required to implement a container for a new component type in Tuscany by looking at some of our existing ones [3] I agree it may be easiest for the discussions to be over here initially, but i've subscribed to ode-dev as well anyway. I'd be very happy to help you do this, how would you like to get started? ...ant [1] http://osoa.org/display/Main/SCA+BPEL+White+Paper [2] http://osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_v0.95.pdf?version=2 [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/services/containers/
Re: SCA and BPEL
Sure ok I guess an IRC chat would be fine to get started. I'm in UK time zone but can be pretty flexible about scheduling it. How about 9:30am BST next Tuesday? ..ant On 10/26/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, So what about an IRC session to get started? Everybody interested could come to ask questions and we would discuss in more details how this could be done. We can both exchange our views on SCA / BPEL and give as much information as possible to the volunteers (like Sam [1]). What do you think? Matthieu [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200610.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/25/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This e-mail is being sent to both Apache Ode and Tuscany development mailing lists. The objective is to see which possible collaboration could happen between our 2 projects and how we could integrate them. Alex, Cory and myself (we're all Ode contributors) met with Jean-Sebastien Delfino and Simon Laws (Tuscany contributors) during the ApacheCon in Austin and we've found out that integrating Ode into Tuscany could be a brilliant idea. From the Tuscany side, there's an SCA client and implementation spec for BPEL. Roughly, it defines how a BPEL process can be used as an SCA component (or at least that's my understanding of it). So I guess Ode could be a good choice for the BPEL part of that. From the Apache Ode perspective, we've defined an interface to the engine ( a.k.a. the integration API or IAPI for acromyn lovers) and we would like to support several integration scenarii. Currently we have an integration layer for Axis2 to support all web services interactions, we also have one for JBI and another one for CXF has been proposed. We would love to have an implementation of these interfaces for Tuscany to be able to run Ode in an SCA environment (for the curious, the interfaces are herehttps://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/bpel-api/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/bpel/iapi/ ). I think the discussion (if discussion there is) should take place on tuscany-dev as there's less of us, Ode people, so it's easier for us to subscribe to it. So what would it take to fit into Tuscany? Thanks, Matthieu Hi Matthieu, this would be really great, i'd love for Tuscany to get a involved with Ode to get a BPEL component. For those that haven't found these already there's a white paper on SCA and BPEL [1] and a specification [2]. You can see the type of thing required to implement a container for a new component type in Tuscany by looking at some of our existing ones [3] I agree it may be easiest for the discussions to be over here initially, but i've subscribed to ode-dev as well anyway. I'd be very happy to help you do this, how would you like to get started? ...ant [1] http://osoa.org/display/Main/SCA+BPEL+White+Paper [2] http://osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_v0.95.pdf?version=2 [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/services/containers/
Re: SCA and BPEL
Actually most Ode committers (including myself) are in California. Also we're going to be a bit busy early next week. So would 4pm BST (8am PST) on Thursday work for you? On 10/27/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure ok I guess an IRC chat would be fine to get started. I'm in UK time zone but can be pretty flexible about scheduling it. How about 9:30am BST next Tuesday? ..ant On 10/26/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, So what about an IRC session to get started? Everybody interested could come to ask questions and we would discuss in more details how this could be done. We can both exchange our views on SCA / BPEL and give as much information as possible to the volunteers (like Sam [1]). What do you think? Matthieu [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200610.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/25/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This e-mail is being sent to both Apache Ode and Tuscany development mailing lists. The objective is to see which possible collaboration could happen between our 2 projects and how we could integrate them. Alex, Cory and myself (we're all Ode contributors) met with Jean-Sebastien Delfino and Simon Laws (Tuscany contributors) during the ApacheCon in Austin and we've found out that integrating Ode into Tuscany could be a brilliant idea. From the Tuscany side, there's an SCA client and implementation spec for BPEL. Roughly, it defines how a BPEL process can be used as an SCA component (or at least that's my understanding of it). So I guess Ode could be a good choice for the BPEL part of that. From the Apache Ode perspective, we've defined an interface to the engine ( a.k.a. the integration API or IAPI for acromyn lovers) and we would like to support several integration scenarii. Currently we have an integration layer for Axis2 to support all web services interactions, we also have one for JBI and another one for CXF has been proposed. We would love to have an implementation of these interfaces for Tuscany to be able to run Ode in an SCA environment (for the curious, the interfaces are herehttps://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/bpel-api/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/bpel/iapi/ ). I think the discussion (if discussion there is) should take place on tuscany-dev as there's less of us, Ode people, so it's easier for us to subscribe to it. So what would it take to fit into Tuscany? Thanks, Matthieu Hi Matthieu, this would be really great, i'd love for Tuscany to get a involved with Ode to get a BPEL component. For those that haven't found these already there's a white paper on SCA and BPEL [1] and a specification [2]. You can see the type of thing required to implement a container for a new component type in Tuscany by looking at some of our existing ones [3] I agree it may be easiest for the discussions to be over here initially, but i've subscribed to ode-dev as well anyway. I'd be very happy to help you do this, how would you like to get started? ...ant [1] http://osoa.org/display/Main/SCA+BPEL+White+Paper [2] http://osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_v0.95.pdf?version=2 [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/services/containers/
SCA and BPEL - Integration
Hi, I am a student and I have been looking into this topic for my project work. I'd like to contribute as much in this with some help from you folks. For now here is what I have been doing as ground work. - Tried out Tuscany M1 release and also recently from the current development branch. - With Apache ODE I deployed sample process in Tomcat and have been able to call it using a SOAP message. At the present moment I am trying to figure out how to integrate ODE into Tuscany. One obvious thought I have in my mind is to use the Tuscany Axis2 Binding and invoke the BPEL process as a reference. I am going to be digging into the OSOA specs for this and hope to get better clarity as I go along. I'd be happy to take advice from you folks on taking this forward. Thanks. Sam.
Re: SCA and BPEL - Integration
On 10/26/06, sam tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am a student and I have been looking into this topic for my project work. I'd like to contribute as much in this with some help from you folks. For now here is what I have been doing as ground work. - Tried out Tuscany M1 release and also recently from the current development branch. - With Apache ODE I deployed sample process in Tomcat and have been able to call it using a SOAP message. At the present moment I am trying to figure out how to integrate ODE into Tuscany. One obvious thought I have in my mind is to use the Tuscany Axis2 Binding and invoke the BPEL process as a reference. I am going to be digging into the OSOA specs for this and hope to get better clarity as I go along. I'd be happy to take advice from you folks on taking this forward. Thanks. Sam. Hi Sam, Its great you're interested in this, it would be really good to have BPEL support in Tuscany. In case you didn't see due to all the ASF email problems over the last few days, the Ode guys have also just started talking about this: http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg10042.html. I talked about how to start a new container in this old mail: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200610.mbox/browser. I'd start with trying to get a simple helloworld going which for this would be a combination of the Tuscany helloworldws sample and the Ode axis2-examples HelloWorld2. Basically start by copying the existing sample and one of the Tuscany containers, rename everything to BPEL. Remember when you do the copy/rename there's scdl in the META-INF/sca directory that you'll need to edit to update with the new class names. As there's an existing SCA spec for this you get some help with what to do. The spec defines what the implementation element looks like: implementation.bpel process=xs:QName/ So you'll need something like a BPELImplementation and BPELImplementationLoader for that. Use one of the existing ones and just change the QName constant to be implementation.bpel and the code to read in the attribute named process. A harder part will be how Tuscany locates the BPEL process XML, for now its likely easiest to add a location attribute and have the loader just read it in, and then sort this part out properly later oncee things are working. So that would become: implementation.bpel process=xs:QName location=urlToBpelXml/ The SCA BPEL spec talks about using introspection to work out the services and references used by the BPEL process, i'd leave this for later also and just require a .componentType side file for now. Again, just use some existing ComponentType and ComponentTypeLoader classes unchanged. Copy some XxxComponent and XxxComponentBuilder classes and change them to set up and create the necessary Ode objects, and an XxxInvoker to do the invoking of the bpel process. As the Ode people are also interested in doing this maybe you should try to work together. How about start with small patches which I can get committed to our sandbox so everyone can see how things progress. Or would it help if I created a folder and template for this in the sandbox first for you all to send patches in against? Let me know... ...ant
Re: SCA and BPEL
Hi, So what about an IRC session to get started? Everybody interested could come to ask questions and we would discuss in more details how this could be done. We can both exchange our views on SCA / BPEL and give as much information as possible to the volunteers (like Sam [1]). What do you think? Matthieu [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200610.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/25/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This e-mail is being sent to both Apache Ode and Tuscany development mailing lists. The objective is to see which possible collaboration could happen between our 2 projects and how we could integrate them. Alex, Cory and myself (we're all Ode contributors) met with Jean-Sebastien Delfino and Simon Laws (Tuscany contributors) during the ApacheCon in Austin and we've found out that integrating Ode into Tuscany could be a brilliant idea. From the Tuscany side, there's an SCA client and implementation spec for BPEL. Roughly, it defines how a BPEL process can be used as an SCA component (or at least that's my understanding of it). So I guess Ode could be a good choice for the BPEL part of that. From the Apache Ode perspective, we've defined an interface to the engine ( a.k.a. the integration API or IAPI for acromyn lovers) and we would like to support several integration scenarii. Currently we have an integration layer for Axis2 to support all web services interactions, we also have one for JBI and another one for CXF has been proposed. We would love to have an implementation of these interfaces for Tuscany to be able to run Ode in an SCA environment (for the curious, the interfaces are herehttps://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/bpel-api/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/bpel/iapi/ ). I think the discussion (if discussion there is) should take place on tuscany-dev as there's less of us, Ode people, so it's easier for us to subscribe to it. So what would it take to fit into Tuscany? Thanks, Matthieu Hi Matthieu, this would be really great, i'd love for Tuscany to get a involved with Ode to get a BPEL component. For those that haven't found these already there's a white paper on SCA and BPEL [1] and a specification [2]. You can see the type of thing required to implement a container for a new component type in Tuscany by looking at some of our existing ones [3] I agree it may be easiest for the discussions to be over here initially, but i've subscribed to ode-dev as well anyway. I'd be very happy to help you do this, how would you like to get started? ...ant [1] http://osoa.org/display/Main/SCA+BPEL+White+Paper [2] http://osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_v0.95.pdf?version=2 [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/services/containers/
Re: SCA and BPEL
Yes ..that would be a brilliant idea Matthieu ! Sam.. On 10/26/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, So what about an IRC session to get started? Everybody interested could come to ask questions and we would discuss in more details how this could be done. We can both exchange our views on SCA / BPEL and give as much information as possible to the volunteers (like Sam [1]). What do you think? Matthieu [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200610.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/25/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This e-mail is being sent to both Apache Ode and Tuscany development mailing lists. The objective is to see which possible collaboration could happen between our 2 projects and how we could integrate them. Alex, Cory and myself (we're all Ode contributors) met with Jean-Sebastien Delfino and Simon Laws (Tuscany contributors) during the ApacheCon in Austin and we've found out that integrating Ode into Tuscany could be a brilliant idea. From the Tuscany side, there's an SCA client and implementation spec for BPEL. Roughly, it defines how a BPEL process can be used as an SCA component (or at least that's my understanding of it). So I guess Ode could be a good choice for the BPEL part of that. From the Apache Ode perspective, we've defined an interface to the engine ( a.k.a. the integration API or IAPI for acromyn lovers) and we would like to support several integration scenarii. Currently we have an integration layer for Axis2 to support all web services interactions, we also have one for JBI and another one for CXF has been proposed. We would love to have an implementation of these interfaces for Tuscany to be able to run Ode in an SCA environment (for the curious, the interfaces are here https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/bpel-api/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/bpel/iapi/ ). I think the discussion (if discussion there is) should take place on tuscany-dev as there's less of us, Ode people, so it's easier for us to subscribe to it. So what would it take to fit into Tuscany? Thanks, Matthieu Hi Matthieu, this would be really great, i'd love for Tuscany to get a involved with Ode to get a BPEL component. For those that haven't found these already there's a white paper on SCA and BPEL [1] and a specification [2]. You can see the type of thing required to implement a container for a new component type in Tuscany by looking at some of our existing ones [3] I agree it may be easiest for the discussions to be over here initially, but i've subscribed to ode-dev as well anyway. I'd be very happy to help you do this, how would you like to get started? ...ant [1] http://osoa.org/display/Main/SCA+BPEL+White+Paper [2] http://osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_v0.95.pdf?version=2 [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/services/containers/ -- Catch Me @: www.samjeyam.co.nr The Engine is the Heart of the Plane but Pilot is the Soul... \___(0)___/ ./ \.
Re: SCA and BPEL - Integration
Hi, Nice volunteering indeed! So on the Ode side, I'd go with implementing a specific integration layer for Tuscany instead of reusing the Axis2 one. That would allow in-VM SCA / BPEL interactions and a greater integration between the two. Ode provides an integration API that you have to implement if you want to plug the engine into something else. The engine uses this API to get whatever it needs to work, like the ability to send and receive messages, to get some representation of the services it's going to interact with, or even threads and transactions. So you would just wire up all services Tuscany provides into the engine when implementing these interfaces. To see what those look like you can have a look at [1]. We currently have 3 working implementations for these interfaces: Axis2, JBI and test. The Axis2 one is wrapped around Axis2 in a WAR and works in any servlet container. The JBI one is bundled in a Service Assembly and can be deployed in ServiceMix. The test one works in-memory in a standalone manner. These are great examples to look at to see how the required services are provided to the engine and how everything is initialized. In particular you can have a look at ODEServer [2] for Axis2 and OdeLifeCycle [3] for JBI, these are where all the initialization and wiring up logic happens for these 2 integrations. I'd start from the test IAPI implementation [4] [5] to see how things work out, this will run in memory so you won't have to worry about providing a datasource and a transaction manager to start with. Then you can bring some pieces from the Axis2 and JBI integrations (copy / paste is your friend) and increment from that. Implement the different communication interfaces by using Tuscany services and you should be all set. Now I think we could discuss about the details and how to use Tuscany services in Ode during an IRC chat session as I proposed in the other thread? So we can all have a better understanding of how this will work and you'll have more information to start from. Matthieu [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/bpel-api/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/bpel/iapi/ [2] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/axis2/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/axis2/ODEServer.java [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/jbi/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/jbi/OdeLifeCycle.java [4] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/bpel-test/src/test/java/org/apache/ode/test/BPELTest.java [5] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/bpel-test/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/test/ On 10/26/06, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/26/06, sam tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am a student and I have been looking into this topic for my project work. I'd like to contribute as much in this with some help from you folks. For now here is what I have been doing as ground work. - Tried out Tuscany M1 release and also recently from the current development branch. - With Apache ODE I deployed sample process in Tomcat and have been able to call it using a SOAP message. At the present moment I am trying to figure out how to integrate ODE into Tuscany. One obvious thought I have in my mind is to use the Tuscany Axis2 Binding and invoke the BPEL process as a reference. I am going to be digging into the OSOA specs for this and hope to get better clarity as I go along. I'd be happy to take advice from you folks on taking this forward. Thanks. Sam. Hi Sam, Its great you're interested in this, it would be really good to have BPEL support in Tuscany. In case you didn't see due to all the ASF email problems over the last few days, the Ode guys have also just started talking about this: http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg10042.html. I talked about how to start a new container in this old mail: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/200610.mbox/browser . I'd start with trying to get a simple helloworld going which for this would be a combination of the Tuscany helloworldws sample and the Ode axis2-examples HelloWorld2. Basically start by copying the existing sample and one of the Tuscany containers, rename everything to BPEL. Remember when you do the copy/rename there's scdl in the META-INF/sca directory that you'll need to edit to update with the new class names. As there's an existing SCA spec for this you get some help with what to do. The spec defines what the implementation element looks like: implementation.bpel process=xs:QName/ So you'll need something like a BPELImplementation and BPELImplementationLoader for that. Use one of the existing ones and just change the QName constant to be implementation.bpel and the code to read in the attribute named process. A harder part will be how Tuscany locates the BPEL process XML, for now its likely easiest to add a location attribute and have the loader just read it in, and then sort this part out properly later oncee
Re: SCA and BPEL
On 10/25/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This e-mail is being sent to both Apache Ode and Tuscany development mailing lists. The objective is to see which possible collaboration could happen between our 2 projects and how we could integrate them. Alex, Cory and myself (we're all Ode contributors) met with Jean-Sebastien Delfino and Simon Laws (Tuscany contributors) during the ApacheCon in Austin and we've found out that integrating Ode into Tuscany could be a brilliant idea. From the Tuscany side, there's an SCA client and implementation spec for BPEL. Roughly, it defines how a BPEL process can be used as an SCA component (or at least that's my understanding of it). So I guess Ode could be a good choice for the BPEL part of that. From the Apache Ode perspective, we've defined an interface to the engine ( a.k.a. the integration API or IAPI for acromyn lovers) and we would like to support several integration scenarii. Currently we have an integration layer for Axis2 to support all web services interactions, we also have one for JBI and another one for CXF has been proposed. We would love to have an implementation of these interfaces for Tuscany to be able to run Ode in an SCA environment (for the curious, the interfaces are here https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/bpel-api/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/bpel/iapi/ ). I think the discussion (if discussion there is) should take place on tuscany-dev as there's less of us, Ode people, so it's easier for us to subscribe to it. So what would it take to fit into Tuscany? Thanks, Matthieu Hi Matthieu, this would be really great, i'd love for Tuscany to get a involved with Ode to get a BPEL component. For those that haven't found these already there's a white paper on SCA and BPEL [1] and a specification [2]. You can see the type of thing required to implement a container for a new component type in Tuscany by looking at some of our existing ones [3] I agree it may be easiest for the discussions to be over here initially, but i've subscribed to ode-dev as well anyway. I'd be very happy to help you do this, how would you like to get started? ...ant [1] http://osoa.org/display/Main/SCA+BPEL+White+Paper [2] http://osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_v0.95.pdf?version=2 [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/services/containers/
SCA and BPEL
Hi all, This e-mail is being sent to both Apache Ode and Tuscany development mailing lists. The objective is to see which possible collaboration could happen between our 2 projects and how we could integrate them. Alex, Cory and myself (we're all Ode contributors) met with Jean-Sebastien Delfino and Simon Laws (Tuscany contributors) during the ApacheCon in Austin and we've found out that integrating Ode into Tuscany could be a brilliant idea. From the Tuscany side, there's an SCA client and implementation spec for BPEL. Roughly, it defines how a BPEL process can be used as an SCA component (or at least that's my understanding of it). So I guess Ode could be a good choice for the BPEL part of that. From the Apache Ode perspective, we've defined an interface to the engine ( a.k.a. the integration API or IAPI for acromyn lovers) and we would like to support several integration scenarii. Currently we have an integration layer for Axis2 to support all web services interactions, we also have one for JBI and another one for CXF has been proposed. We would love to have an implementation of these interfaces for Tuscany to be able to run Ode in an SCA environment (for the curious, the interfaces are herehttps://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/bpel-api/src/main/java/org/apache/ode/bpel/iapi/ ). I think the discussion (if discussion there is) should take place on tuscany-dev as there's less of us, Ode people, so it's easier for us to subscribe to it. So what would it take to fit into Tuscany? Thanks, Matthieu
