Re: SCA in OSGi - was SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation
Yea that was my bad. Jeremy just cleaned it up so if you can sync that would work better. I imagine you are going to run into many sharp objects but since you mountain bike I imagine you're used to it :-). What is in the OSGi project is really bare bones. Jeremy and Rick are having an ongoing deployer discussion and I think it would be good to link up with them on the list since I think that will help bootstrap in Equinox. I'm generally around so when you run into questions, feel free to post them and we can work through the issues. Jim On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Hawkins, Joel wrote: Found the spec directory - never mind! -Original Message- From: Hawkins, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 1:54 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: SCA in OSGi - was SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation Turn about is fair play - just got back from vacation myself - 6 days of cycling in the Rockies. :-) I think this approach will work well for me. I've done an update on the sandbox code and am having troubles building. It appears that the sca-api jar has been updated with some new classes (org.osoa.sca.CompositeContext, for example), but the SNAPSHOT available to Maven hasn't been. Am I catching the code in an in between state? Any hints would be appreciated! My goal for the week is to get the simple composite example working, using the deployment you describe below. I'm sure I'll bump into lots of sharp objects, which will generate lots of questions. Looking forward to the journey. Cheers, Joel -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 3:58 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation Sorry for the delay, I've been on vacation... On Jun 13, 2006, at 6:54 AM, Hawkins, Joel wrote: Hi Jim, My personal interest is in SCA-OSGi integration. I listened to your presentation on the new core architecture, and am going through the sandbox code trying to gain some understanding of how it all hangs together. I'd really like to be involved in this area, and would appreciate any suggestions you can make. That would be great. I checked in a skeleton OSGi project that uses Equinox. There are a number of items that we need to figure out, including: - The details on OSGi as a host environment. I was thinking the root runtime context would be loaded in an OSGi and registered as an OSGi service. Application composites (e.g. applications contributed from end users) would be loaded as separate bundles and they would reference the SCA OSGi service to register themselves with the Tuscany runtime. Likewise, system composites would register themselves in a similar way. - Related to the first point, deployment structure. I'd like to see us figure out specifics concerning the deployment process such as run levels - How to access OSGi services. I was thinking there would be an "OSGi" binding. The easiest way to proceed may be for you to start posting questions as you work through looking at how the sandbox code works. Once we do that, we can move to specifics on how to integrate with OSGi. Does that work for you? I've got a separate thread going with Jervis around the management capabilities. We (the Corona team) are currently working on a WSDM interface for the OSGi runtime - I would hope that the lessons learned would be directly applicable to a WSDM interface for SCA. O.K. that's great Thanks, Joel -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 4:38 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation Hi Joel, Great. Do you have some specific areas you are interested in working on w.r.t to Tuscany? I started a skeleton project of getting Tuscany to deploy into Equinox. Also, there has been a thread on providing management capabilities for Tuscany (Jervis I beleive was looking into this). We can definitely use help in these areas as well as the other areas we outlined in the June 9 message from this same thread. Let me know and I can point you at things in more detail. Jim On Jun 12, 2006, at 6:24 AM, Hawkins, Joel wrote: Jim, My name is Joel Hawkins, and I'm working with the Apache Muse project on porting the IBM contribution for the new version of Muse to OSGi. I'm also working on a recently formed Eclipse project (the Corona project) - which has a goal of providing a manageable (using Muse's WSDM implementation) SCA-type environment (hopefully using Tuscany) for Eclipse. I've been following the Tuscany project for some time, and after sitting through the presentation of the latest spec update, I believe SCA has a very important role to play in moving OSGi's Declarative Services spec forward, and I'd be very intere
RE: SCA in OSGi - was SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation
Found the spec directory - never mind! -Original Message- From: Hawkins, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 1:54 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: SCA in OSGi - was SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation Turn about is fair play - just got back from vacation myself - 6 days of cycling in the Rockies. :-) I think this approach will work well for me. I've done an update on the sandbox code and am having troubles building. It appears that the sca-api jar has been updated with some new classes (org.osoa.sca.CompositeContext, for example), but the SNAPSHOT available to Maven hasn't been. Am I catching the code in an in between state? Any hints would be appreciated! My goal for the week is to get the simple composite example working, using the deployment you describe below. I'm sure I'll bump into lots of sharp objects, which will generate lots of questions. Looking forward to the journey. Cheers, Joel -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 3:58 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation Sorry for the delay, I've been on vacation... On Jun 13, 2006, at 6:54 AM, Hawkins, Joel wrote: > Hi Jim, > > My personal interest is in SCA-OSGi integration. I listened to your > presentation on the new core architecture, and am going through the > sandbox code trying to gain some understanding of how it all hangs > together. I'd really like to be involved in this area, and would > appreciate any suggestions you can make. > That would be great. I checked in a skeleton OSGi project that uses Equinox. There are a number of items that we need to figure out, including: - The details on OSGi as a host environment. I was thinking the root runtime context would be loaded in an OSGi and registered as an OSGi service. Application composites (e.g. applications contributed from end users) would be loaded as separate bundles and they would reference the SCA OSGi service to register themselves with the Tuscany runtime. Likewise, system composites would register themselves in a similar way. - Related to the first point, deployment structure. I'd like to see us figure out specifics concerning the deployment process such as run levels - How to access OSGi services. I was thinking there would be an "OSGi" binding. The easiest way to proceed may be for you to start posting questions as you work through looking at how the sandbox code works. Once we do that, we can move to specifics on how to integrate with OSGi. Does that work for you? > I've got a separate thread going with Jervis around the management > capabilities. We (the Corona team) are currently working on a WSDM > interface for the OSGi runtime - I would hope that the lessons learned > would be directly applicable to a WSDM interface for SCA. > O.K. that's great > Thanks, > Joel > > > -Original Message- > From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 4:38 PM > To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org > Subject: Re: Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation > > Hi Joel, > > Great. Do you have some specific areas you are interested in working > on w.r.t to Tuscany? I started a skeleton project of getting Tuscany > to deploy into Equinox. Also, there has been a thread on providing > management capabilities for Tuscany (Jervis I beleive was looking > into this). We can definitely use help in these areas as well as the > other areas we outlined in the June 9 message from this same thread. > Let me know and I can point you at things in more detail. > > Jim > > > > On Jun 12, 2006, at 6:24 AM, Hawkins, Joel wrote: > >> Jim, >> >> My name is Joel Hawkins, and I'm working with the Apache Muse >> project on >> porting the IBM contribution for the new version of Muse to OSGi. I'm >> also working on a recently formed Eclipse project (the Corona >> project) - >> which has a goal of providing a manageable (using Muse's WSDM >> implementation) SCA-type environment (hopefully using Tuscany) for >> Eclipse. I've been following the Tuscany project for some time, and >> after sitting through the presentation of the latest spec update, I >> believe SCA has a very important role to play in moving OSGi's >> Declarative Services spec forward, and I'd be very interested in >> helping >> out in these areas. >> >> Cheers, >> Joel Hawkins >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 1:08 PM >> To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Subject: SCA
SCA in OSGi - was SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation
Turn about is fair play - just got back from vacation myself - 6 days of cycling in the Rockies. :-) I think this approach will work well for me. I've done an update on the sandbox code and am having troubles building. It appears that the sca-api jar has been updated with some new classes (org.osoa.sca.CompositeContext, for example), but the SNAPSHOT available to Maven hasn't been. Am I catching the code in an in between state? Any hints would be appreciated! My goal for the week is to get the simple composite example working, using the deployment you describe below. I'm sure I'll bump into lots of sharp objects, which will generate lots of questions. Looking forward to the journey. Cheers, Joel -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 3:58 PM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation Sorry for the delay, I've been on vacation... On Jun 13, 2006, at 6:54 AM, Hawkins, Joel wrote: > Hi Jim, > > My personal interest is in SCA-OSGi integration. I listened to your > presentation on the new core architecture, and am going through the > sandbox code trying to gain some understanding of how it all hangs > together. I'd really like to be involved in this area, and would > appreciate any suggestions you can make. > That would be great. I checked in a skeleton OSGi project that uses Equinox. There are a number of items that we need to figure out, including: - The details on OSGi as a host environment. I was thinking the root runtime context would be loaded in an OSGi and registered as an OSGi service. Application composites (e.g. applications contributed from end users) would be loaded as separate bundles and they would reference the SCA OSGi service to register themselves with the Tuscany runtime. Likewise, system composites would register themselves in a similar way. - Related to the first point, deployment structure. I'd like to see us figure out specifics concerning the deployment process such as run levels - How to access OSGi services. I was thinking there would be an "OSGi" binding. The easiest way to proceed may be for you to start posting questions as you work through looking at how the sandbox code works. Once we do that, we can move to specifics on how to integrate with OSGi. Does that work for you? > I've got a separate thread going with Jervis around the management > capabilities. We (the Corona team) are currently working on a WSDM > interface for the OSGi runtime - I would hope that the lessons learned > would be directly applicable to a WSDM interface for SCA. > O.K. that's great > Thanks, > Joel > > > -Original Message- > From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 4:38 PM > To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org > Subject: Re: Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation > > Hi Joel, > > Great. Do you have some specific areas you are interested in working > on w.r.t to Tuscany? I started a skeleton project of getting Tuscany > to deploy into Equinox. Also, there has been a thread on providing > management capabilities for Tuscany (Jervis I beleive was looking > into this). We can definitely use help in these areas as well as the > other areas we outlined in the June 9 message from this same thread. > Let me know and I can point you at things in more detail. > > Jim > > > > On Jun 12, 2006, at 6:24 AM, Hawkins, Joel wrote: > >> Jim, >> >> My name is Joel Hawkins, and I'm working with the Apache Muse >> project on >> porting the IBM contribution for the new version of Muse to OSGi. I'm >> also working on a recently formed Eclipse project (the Corona >> project) - >> which has a goal of providing a manageable (using Muse's WSDM >> implementation) SCA-type environment (hopefully using Tuscany) for >> Eclipse. I've been following the Tuscany project for some time, and >> after sitting through the presentation of the latest spec update, I >> believe SCA has a very important role to play in moving OSGi's >> Declarative Services spec forward, and I'd be very interested in >> helping >> out in these areas. >> >> Cheers, >> Joel Hawkins >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 1:08 PM >> To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Subject: SCA Spec Update and Recursive Core presentation >> >> I also forgot one big area that needs work: Management. This is a >> topic that is starting to come up in the spec group and it would be >> great if we could propose some ideas to them. >> >> Jim >> >> On Jun 9, 2006, at 2:48 PM, Jim Marino wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Thanks everyone who attended today's call. The slides have been >>> checked >>> into SVN at: >>> >>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/tuscany/sandbox/jboynes/sca/ >>> doc >>> >>> We would appreciate any comments, questions, feedback, and >>> suggestions >>> on the session, and more imp
