Re: [Tutor] More Pythonesque or a more efficient method
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Emile van Sebille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Berman wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The below script which prints anagrams available for any word available
>> within a given database. It does work, but it is not very fast. I am
>> relatively certain there are more Python friendly coding techniques but I am
>> more concerned with a faster algorithm.
>>
>
> You might consider looking up the permutations only (up to some length --
> there are a lot of permutations for 8+ letter words :)
>
I'm not sure if this would be any faster, but I'd be curious at least to
know what the difference would be to have a database of every possible
permutation for every length up to 10, i.e:
0
01
10
012
021
102
120
201
210
.
.
.
etc.
And then simply use the key values of the letter... perhaps the anagrams
stored in a dict by length as the key:
mutations = {1: [(0,)], 2: [(0,1), (1,0)],}
so for instance:
myword = "if"
mylen = len(myword)
for mytuple in mutations[mylen]:
for x in mytuple:
print myword[x]
I think that would work anyway. I don't know if I have the code right, and
I'm not sure if it would be faster, slower, or no change, but it may be
worth a look.
HTH,
Wayne
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Re: [Tutor] Batch searches on Googlescholar
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Srinivas Iyyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Dear Tutors, > This might ben off track question, but I am asking to seek help from > experts here. > > I have a list of (n = 240) research publications (Biology and medicine). I > have title, journal name and PubMedID. > > my aim is to identify how many times each publication got cited on google > Scholar. > since Googlescholars indexing is different from that of ISI, we have > difference in number of citations. GS has more when compared to ISI. It > would be nice If I can have both. > > I asked ISI web of knowledge and they do not seem to have batch extraction > tools and I did not find any url hooks ( cgi) to automate and parse HTML. You can use the urllib builtin module and beautiful soup for parsing HTML. I don't know if the Googlescholars page allows python connections, I know regular google queries do not (they frown on web scraping, AFAIK) that's about as specific as you'll probably get without a more explicit example. HTH, Wayne -- To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] More Pythonesque or a more efficient method
Robert Berman wrote:
Hi,
The below script which prints anagrams available for any word available
within a given database. It does work, but it is not very fast. I am
relatively certain there are more Python friendly coding techniques but
I am more concerned with a faster algorithm.
You might consider looking up the permutations only (up to some length
-- there are a lot of permutations for 8+ letter words :)
#from http://www.daniweb.com/code/snippet459.html
def permutate(seq):
"""permutate a sequence and return a list of the permutations"""
if not seq:
return [seq] # is an empty sequence
else:
temp = []
for k in range(len(seq)):
part = seq[:k] + seq[k+1:]
#print k, part # test
for m in permutate(part):
temp.append(seq[k:k+1] + m)
#print m, seq[k:k+1], temp # test
return temp
print permutate('myth')
['myth', 'myht', 'mtyh', 'mthy', 'mhyt', 'mhty', 'ymth', 'ymht', 'ytmh',
'ythm', 'yhmt', 'yhtm', 'tmyh', 'tmhy', 'tymh', 'tyhm', 'thmy', 'thym',
'hmyt', 'hmty', 'hymt', 'hytm', 'htmy', 'htym']
>>> print len(permutate('mythsdfw'))
40320
>>> print len(permutate('mythsdf'))
5040
>>> print len(permutate('mythsd'))
720
>>> print len(permutate('myths'))
120
>>> print len(permutate('myth'))
24
>>> print len(permutate('myt'))
6
so something like:
print [ xx for xx in permutate('myths') if xx in worddict ]
HTH,
Emile
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[Tutor] Batch searches on Googlescholar
Dear Tutors, This might ben off track question, but I am asking to seek help from experts here. I have a list of (n = 240) research publications (Biology and medicine). I have title, journal name and PubMedID. my aim is to identify how many times each publication got cited on google Scholar. since Googlescholars indexing is different from that of ISI, we have difference in number of citations. GS has more when compared to ISI. It would be nice If I can have both. I asked ISI web of knowledge and they do not seem to have batch extraction tools and I did not find any url hooks ( cgi) to automate and parse HTML. Any suggestions/ ideas please on Google Scholar. Thank you. Srini ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] cx_oracle module problems
>>Got it. Thanks. >> >>When i try 'python setup.py build' i get the following error. >> >>$ sudo python setup.py build >> >>Traceback (most recent call last): >> >> File "setup.py", line 72, in >> raise DistutilsSetupError, "cannot locate an Oracle software >>installation" >>distutils.errors.DistutilsSetupError: cannot locate an Oracle software >>installation >> >> >>Thoughts? > > >This means you don't have Oracle installed, or setup.py can't find it. > >-Wayne I'm guessing that you'll need to install the .deb file from this site. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/xe/htdocs/102xelinsoft.html There's installation instructions for Debian(Which I believe Ubuntu is derived from) here: http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/xe/files/install.102/b25144/toc.htm#BABFEDEI After the client is installed, then hopefully you can build and install the cx_oracle module. Good luck. If you get stuck maybe someone else can pipe in. Unless it's something simple, I usually have trouble if a package is unable to install due to some missing library or what not. Mike ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] cx_oracle module problems
I'm working on a shared box and was told it was installed. How can i verify installation? 'which oracle' does not return any results. Also, nothing in /etc/init.d or /usr/bin JJ On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 14:32 -0700, W W wrote: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:30 PM, jeremiah > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Got it. Thanks. > > When i try 'python setup.py build' i get the following error. > > $ sudo python setup.py build > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "setup.py", line 72, in >raise DistutilsSetupError, "cannot locate an Oracle > software > installation" > distutils.errors.DistutilsSetupError: cannot locate an Oracle > software > installation > > > Thoughts? > > This means you don't have Oracle installed, or setup.py can't find it. > > -Wayne > > > Disclaimer: The information contained in this transmission, including any attachments, may contain confidential information of Panasonic Avionics Corporation. This transmission is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) listed above. Unauthorized review, dissemination or other use of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error or have reason to believe you are not authorized to receive it, please notify the sender by return email and promptly delete the transmission. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] cx_oracle module problems
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:30 PM, jeremiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Got it. Thanks. > > When i try 'python setup.py build' i get the following error. > > $ sudo python setup.py build > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "setup.py", line 72, in >raise DistutilsSetupError, "cannot locate an Oracle software > installation" > distutils.errors.DistutilsSetupError: cannot locate an Oracle software > installation > > > Thoughts? This means you don't have Oracle installed, or setup.py can't find it. -Wayne ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] cx_oracle module problems
Got it. Thanks. When i try 'python setup.py build' i get the following error. $ sudo python setup.py build Traceback (most recent call last): File "setup.py", line 72, in raise DistutilsSetupError, "cannot locate an Oracle software installation" distutils.errors.DistutilsSetupError: cannot locate an Oracle software installation Thoughts? Thanks, JJ On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 12:27 -0700, Jerry Hill wrote: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:46 PM, jeremiah > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've downloaded the cx_oracle source module for python, howerver > every > > time i try to build it, it keeps on failing. I've been unable to > find a > > port for Ubuntu. Is there one? Anyone know how to get this properly > > installed? > > > > # sudo python setup.py install > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "setup.py", line 36, in > >oracleHome = os.environ["ORACLE_HOME"] > > File "/usr/lib/python2.5/UserDict.py", line 22, in __getitem__ > >raise KeyError(key) > > KeyError: 'ORACLE_HOME' > > It looks to me like it expects you to already have the oracle client > libraries installed, since it's looking for the 'ORACLE_HOME' > environment variable. > > -- > Jerry > ___ > Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor > > > Disclaimer: The information contained in this transmission, including any attachments, may contain confidential information of Panasonic Avionics Corporation. This transmission is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) listed above. Unauthorized review, dissemination or other use of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error or have reason to believe you are not authorized to receive it, please notify the sender by return email and promptly delete the transmission. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] cx_oracle module problems
"jeremiah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote port for Ubuntu. Is there one? Anyone know how to get this properly installed? # sudo python setup.py install File "/usr/lib/python2.5/UserDict.py", line 22, in __getitem__ raise KeyError(key) KeyError: 'ORACLE_HOME' Given the error message, do you have ORACLE_HOME defined as an environment variable for the user account running the script?? Assuming you have Oracle installed on the box you should have it defined at least for the Oracle admin user ID if not for everyone. If so try running the script as that user. HTH, -- Alan Gauld Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Monitoring HTTP connections?
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:06 PM, xbmuncher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on proxy programs: > i want to sniff the http requests that are being made internally from a > program I have no control over, so a proxy server won't work, because I > can't make the program access the internet through a proxy, its not a > browser that is making the requests Google 'python libpcap' for some leads, there seem to be three Python bindings to libpcap. Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] More Pythonesque or a more efficient method
Yet another approach to experiment with. Thank you all very much, Robert Kent Johnson wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Richard Lovely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In a slightly related matter, Is is possible to use all() with a list comprehension to check if a word contains all of the letters of another? Sure. In [1]: all(letter in 'abcde' for letter in 'cde') Out[1]: True In [2]: all(letter in 'abcde' for letter in 'cdef') Out[2]: False Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] cx_oracle module problems
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:46 PM, jeremiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've downloaded the cx_oracle source module for python, howerver every > time i try to build it, it keeps on failing. I've been unable to find a > port for Ubuntu. Is there one? Anyone know how to get this properly > installed? > > # sudo python setup.py install > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "setup.py", line 36, in >oracleHome = os.environ["ORACLE_HOME"] > File "/usr/lib/python2.5/UserDict.py", line 22, in __getitem__ >raise KeyError(key) > KeyError: 'ORACLE_HOME' It looks to me like it expects you to already have the oracle client libraries installed, since it's looking for the 'ORACLE_HOME' environment variable. -- Jerry ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] cx_oracle module problems
> Subject: [Tutor] cx_oracle module problems > > I've downloaded the cx_oracle source module for python, howerver every > time i try to build it, it keeps on failing. I've been unable > to find a > port for Ubuntu. Is there one? Anyone know how to get this properly > installed? > > # sudo python setup.py install > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "setup.py", line 36, in > oracleHome = os.environ["ORACLE_HOME"] > File "/usr/lib/python2.5/UserDict.py", line 22, in __getitem__ > raise KeyError(key) > KeyError: 'ORACLE_HOME' > > > Link: > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cx-oracle/cx_Oracle-4.2.tar > .gz?download > > Thanks, > JJ > > Did you python setup.py build first? The README.txt mentions it along the option of doing a binary install. Mike ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Monitoring HTTP connections?
on proxy programs: i want to sniff the http requests that are being made internally from a program I have no control over, so a proxy server won't work, because I can't make the program access the internet through a proxy, its not a browser that is making the requests Perhaps, you can tell me the "things" I need to accomplish with code for me to be able to sniff the HTTP requests/responses coming from my wireless card. I can explain what I want to do in primitive terms: wireless card or computer machine makes requests of the protocol HTTP I want to be able to sniff and get the text information of these requests, i want to be able to trigger event like behavior on these requests, so my program can respond instantly when an http request happens how to describe these things in their technical aspects I am ignorant of, if someone could outline or summarize what I would need to do technically with python to achieve this, I'll be happy to study methods of how to do these technical things and eventually write the code myself thank you ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
[Tutor] cx_oracle module problems
I've downloaded the cx_oracle source module for python, howerver every time i try to build it, it keeps on failing. I've been unable to find a port for Ubuntu. Is there one? Anyone know how to get this properly installed? # sudo python setup.py install Traceback (most recent call last): File "setup.py", line 36, in oracleHome = os.environ["ORACLE_HOME"] File "/usr/lib/python2.5/UserDict.py", line 22, in __getitem__ raise KeyError(key) KeyError: 'ORACLE_HOME' Link: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cx-oracle/cx_Oracle-4.2.tar.gz?download Thanks, JJ Disclaimer: The information contained in this transmission, including any attachments, may contain confidential information of Panasonic Avionics Corporation. This transmission is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) listed above. Unauthorized review, dissemination or other use of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error or have reason to believe you are not authorized to receive it, please notify the sender by return email and promptly delete the transmission. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Default parameter in class method
2008/10/7 Kent Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Daniele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > def myMethod(self, parameter=_marker): > if parameter==_marker: >parameter = self.field Thanks Kent and Alan, I've understood the point and I think I'll use Kent's solution :) ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] More Pythonesque or a more efficient method
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Richard Lovely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a slightly related matter, Is is possible to use all() with a list > comprehension to check if a word contains all of the letters of > another? Sure. In [1]: all(letter in 'abcde' for letter in 'cde') Out[1]: True In [2]: all(letter in 'abcde' for letter in 'cdef') Out[2]: False Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
[Tutor] pexpect/pxssh
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Re: [Tutor] More Pythonesque or a more efficient method
In a slightly related matter, Is is possible to use all() with a list comprehension to check if a word contains all of the letters of another? -- Richard "Roadie Rich" Lovely, part of the JNP|UK Famile www.theJNP.com ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] first call - newcomer
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 04:23:50AM -0400, Pierre Dagenais wrote: > Anthony Smith wrote: > >1. A brief (but complete) description regarding the use of script > >editor (I will be using Place the files wherever you like, just use a .py extension on the filenames. Use any text editor you like which saves plain ASCII files (notepad, IDLE, vi, emacs, etc). IDLE comes with Python and may be useful for new programmers especially. > >2. I have been unable to locate the gizmo in the literature to get > >ascii codes > >in python. In the old days, it was a list of 256 (or so) > >characters that represented all keyboard symbols (A equalled 36; B > >equalled 37; et cetera). 36? Out of curiosity, what system were you using? It can't have been ASCII or EBCDIC. > > To assign a value, you used "Let A$ = ASC (36)" where A$ was a > >variable > >and 36 was the ASCII value for 'A'. I believe the reverse of this > >process > >was PRINT VAL(A$) or something. I want to play with a program > >that will In Python: a = chr(36) print ord(a) -- Steve Willoughby| Using billion-dollar satellites [EMAIL PROTECTED] | to hunt for Tupperware. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Default parameter in class method
"Daniele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote I want to create a method of a class with a default value. The problem is that this default value should be an instance field of that same class. For example: class Test(): def __init__(self): self.field='Default' def myMethod(self, parameter=self.field): pass This has little to do with OOP per se. You cannot make a default value of a normal function refer to a dynamic variable. It has to be a constant value (or the current value of a variable at the time the function is defined). Consider: myvar = None def f1(): ... global myvar ... myvar = 42 ... def f2(n = myvar): ... print n ... myvar None f2() None f1() # set myvar to 42 myvar 42 f2() # still using the original myvar value None myvar 42 So the default value is bound to the value of myvar at the time the function was defined. Even if myvar changes the default value will not. So in the OOP case binding to a field value won't work because the field doesn't get defined until an object is instantiated but the class definition (including the method) will be executed before any instances are created. Kent has shown how to use a default binding to None to do what you want. I just wanted to point out that the same issues arise using functions. HTH, -- Alan Gauld Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Default parameter in class method
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Daniele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > I know very little about OOP in Python, I'm working on it but, for the > time being, here's my problem: > I want to create a method of a class with a default value. The problem > is that this default value should be an instance field of that same > class. For example: > > class Test(): > def __init__(self): >self.field='Default' > > def myMethod(self, parameter=self.field): >pass > > I'm getting an error like "name 'self' is not defined"; it seems I > cannot access self.field in the method definition. Is there a > work-around (or maybe just the proper way to do it)? def myMethod(self, parameter=None): if parameter is None: parameter = self.field If None is actually a valid value for parameter, you can create a unique marker object: outside the class: _marker = object() then: def myMethod(self, parameter=_marker): if parameter==_marker: parameter = self.field Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
[Tutor] Default parameter in class method
Hi all, I know very little about OOP in Python, I'm working on it but, for the time being, here's my problem: I want to create a method of a class with a default value. The problem is that this default value should be an instance field of that same class. For example: class Test(): def __init__(self): self.field='Default' def myMethod(self, parameter=self.field): pass I'm getting an error like "name 'self' is not defined"; it seems I cannot access self.field in the method definition. Is there a work-around (or maybe just the proper way to do it)? Thank you very much, Daniele ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] IF statment 2
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:06 PM, WM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, guys, forgive me; I can't help being a fool. Just now I READ the > program and it worked perfectly! 42 is more than 1 so it printed "More". > My error was that I imagined there was a loop where no loop could be. Oh, > me; oh, my. Glad you got it working. One more tip about the list - it is very helpful if you respond to a thread by replying (to all) to one of the messages in the thread. That way people using threaded readers see the entire thread grouped together. Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Using the curses module (or a better solution)
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Alan Gauld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > There are some wrappers around curses to make the learning > curve a little bit less steep. Although, personally I don't think > raw curses is all that hard... :-) > Especially not for such a simple program. Less than 100 lines to do this sort of thing, I'm sure. -Wayne -- To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Using the curses module (or a better solution)
"Tony Cappellini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote I'd like to add a 1-2 line no-scroll-area at the top of the screen, so as to print a message which indicates the progress of the current test. I'm not sure if the curses module has this non-scroll area capability. Yes, curses works by defining viewport windows on the character screen. Thus you can define two windows, one for the scrolling text (and add a scrollbar to bring it back if needed) and one for the fixed display. There are some wrappers around curses to make the learning curve a little bit less steep. Although, personally I don't think raw curses is all that hard... :-) Alan G. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
[Tutor] first call - newcomer
Anthony Smith wrote: This is my first post - I will be brief... One: I have programmed before - but it has been DECADES...so just a few simple queries: 1. A brief (but complete) description regarding the use of script editor (I will be using command prompt in Windows), as: a. details about loading and saving programs (not in that order) and little specs about pathnames or other requirements (I will probably store all my little goodies in one folder or space). Hi, You save programs by writing them in a file with a .py extension. Ex.: myProgram.py Then there are different ways of loading a program, from the dos command line you can do: C:\myProgram.py, that one I couldn't find in the litterature, I had to ask, thank you Alan. That should get me going ... a book and manual by my side should suffice for the rest - - - except for one thing: 2. I have been unable to locate the gizmo in the literature to get ascii codes in python. In the old days, it was a list of 256 (or so) characters that represented all keyboard symbols (A equalled 36; B equalled 37; et cetera). To assign a value, you used "Let A$ = ASC (36)" where A$ was a variable and 36 was the ASCII value for 'A'. I believe the reverse of this process was PRINT VAL(A$) or something. I want to play with a program that will assign a number to a word (using a simple algorhythm that will give a specific number to every word). Other stuff is pretty easy to find with the book and on-line literature. I will need to get an ascii code out of a string (whose content is not known to the programmer, as raw_input). Then to assign, I will need the actual list with assigned numbers. You will be giving me probably the only boost I will need! I will be available later on, if I want to take part in the ask/answer system here. Thanks a lot, Anthony 8:27 pm PST October 4th, 2008 _ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1710 - Release Date: 06/10/2008 9:23 AM ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
