Re: [Tutor] How to present python experience (self-taught) to potential employer
On 23/08/13 03:45, Jing Ai wrote: time off from my PH internship. There's a job posting that looks really idea for me in the near future (a PH Research position) that requires Python experience and I wonder if any of you have any suggestions how I can demonstrate my python skills if I'm learning it on my own as opposed to taking courses? I only took a course for 3 of the 20-30 programming languages I know/use. A course should not be necessary. Working code should be. Some people had previously suggested GitHub, but it seems to only show my abilities to read python code and detect bugs, but not abilities to write python code. Any Python based open source project should offer opportunities to document/test/debug/fix and *enhance* the software. Get involved with your favourite project and make a difference. You can also get involved with the Python community here on tutor and the main Python list. Your comments and responses can demonstrate your level of understanding. Since its a research position you are interested in they are probably more interested in your coding ability than in your general software engineering skills, but its worth developing good engineering skills too. (TDD, Version control, Documentation, etc) -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] How to present python experience (self-taught) to potential employer
One project is fine, unless your competition has finished two. Start at least with one script in each language that you want on your resume that does some sort of analysis on a set of data. With all due respect to Amit, if you are going for academic work don't bother with tests or documentation, proceed directly towards a demo that makes charts. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Amit Saha amitsaha...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Jing Ai jai...@g.rwu.edu wrote: @Amit Thank you for your suggestions! I'll look into the data there and see if there's something relevant that I can use to do a project. Yes I believe it would involve some data analysis (and I may need to learn R as well or use RPy). Do you think one project is sufficient to demonstrate my skills if it's in-depth? Or does it take several projects? Hmm I am not sure. But, depends on how much time you have. If you can do one big project that demonstrates a number of your skills - use of Python and one or more of the scientific libraries, that perhaps speaks fair bit about what you know. Also, consider using version control for your projects and of course, unit testing. I also suggest looking into Sphinx for documentation of your project. They also demonstrate that you know some of the things that you need to beyond just writing programs. Best of luck. -Amit. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] How to present python experience (self-taught) to potential employer
Jing - You demonstrate skill at writing python by writing python. If you don't have data, write something to scrape data. If you seriously can't think of any problems or interesting side projects to solve in either of your fields, bluntly, you're almost certainly worthless as a researcher. Go build anything! On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Jing Ai jai...@g.rwu.edu wrote: Hi everyone, This is Jing and I am a recent college graduate with Biology and Public Health background. I'm currently learning python on my own when i have time off from my PH internship. There's a job posting that looks really idea for me in the near future (a PH Research position) that requires Python experience and I wonder if any of you have any suggestions how I can demonstrate my python skills if I'm learning it on my own as opposed to taking courses? Some people had previously suggested GitHub, but it seems to only show my abilities to read python code and detect bugs, but not abilities to write python code. Some others suggested doing a project of my own, but I don't currently have any data or problem to solve in my field. Thanks so much! Jing ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Runestone Python Course
Omar Abou Mrad wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Jim Mooney cybervigila...@gmail.com mailto:cybervigila...@gmail.com wrote: http://interactivepython.org snip Would be nice if it worked though, logged in through my google account, now i get this error which I can do nothing about: Sorry, Something went wrong The error is: |invalid request| |It was the same for me|. It gives this error message as soon as I try to run one of their ActiveCode examples. But I discovered that if you delete the single leading blank in front of each line, then it works. Maybe their parser doesn't like unindented lines starting with a space... It's a nuisance, though. Francesco ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] How much in a try block?
On 2013-08-23 01:30, Alan Gauld wrote: Unless you really only want g(x) executed if there is no MyError exception but want h(x) executed regardless. I've had that situation a few times before when using the logic try this, or fall back to this if it doesn't work. I'm curious, how often do others use the try/else combination? Rarely. I think I've only used it twice in recent memory. pgpurjbJpvZp9.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] How much in a try block?
Well, maybe I'm looking at the wrong construct. The script needs to open up one file that will be on the machine. It will open up other files given as command line arguments and open files to write to. It should fail gracefully if it cannot open the files to be read or written. The community that will use the script has varying levels of scripting but not hordes of Python. I'd prefer to fail with an explanation so they could fix the issue and not just blame the script. Leam On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Chris Down ch...@chrisdown.name wrote: On 2013-08-23 01:30, Alan Gauld wrote: Unless you really only want g(x) executed if there is no MyError exception but want h(x) executed regardless. I've had that situation a few times before when using the logic try this, or fall back to this if it doesn't work. I'm curious, how often do others use the try/else combination? Rarely. I think I've only used it twice in recent memory. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- Mind on a Mission http://leamhall.blogspot.com/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] How much in a try block?
Alan Gauld wrote: On 22/08/13 21:27, Chris Down wrote: You can also use the else clause if there is stuff you want to run if the try block doesn't raise the caught exception, which avoids putting it in try if you don't intend to exit from the exception. I admit that I've never really found a use for else in a try block. I don;t see much advantage in try: f(x) except MyError: pass else: g(x) h(x) over try: f(x) except MyError: pass g(x) h(x) Unless you really only want g(x) executed if there is no MyError exception but want h(x) executed regardless. I guess where h() is not using x it might be helpful but in most(all?) of my code I've usually bailed when x has gone wrong or I've fixed things such that hg() and h() are required. I'm curious, how often do others use the try/else combination? I use it for clarity even when it is not necessary. I think try: text = file.read() except AttributeError: with open(file) as f: text = f.read() looks odd (an AttributeError when reading a file?) compared to try: read = file.read except AttributeError: with open(file) as f: text = f.read() else: text = read() Ah -- we're not sure whether it's a file or a filename. Looking through my bunch of casual scripts I find that 22% of try...except have an else clause compared to only 11.4% in /usr/lib/python2.7. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Runestone Python Course
But I discovered that if you delete the single leading blank in front of each line, then it works. Maybe their parser doesn't like unindented lines starting with a space... = That's odd. I haven't had any of those problems. I wonder if it's your browser. I'm using FF. Are you doing the first course or the more advanced one? I'm only looking at the first one. If you write them I 've found them to be very cooperative, which is the norm for open source stuff if you're polite. imagine trying to get through the Microsoft phalanx to the programmer, if you could even find them, and then they'd say they had no authority to make a change until it was reviewed by the Committee of 400, a year from now ;') Jim On 23 August 2013 01:18, Francesco Loffredo f...@libero.it wrote: Omar Abou Mrad wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Jim Mooney cybervigila...@gmail.commailto: cybervigilante@gmail.**com cybervigila...@gmail.com wrote: http://interactivepython.org snip Would be nice if it worked though, logged in through my google account, now i get this error which I can do nothing about: Sorry, Something went wrong The error is: |invalid request| |It was the same for me|. It gives this error message as soon as I try to run one of their ActiveCode examples. But I discovered that if you delete the single leading blank in front of each line, then it works. Maybe their parser doesn't like unindented lines starting with a space... It's a nuisance, though. Francesco __**_ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/tutorhttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- Jim More and more, science is showing that animals, even simple ones, have awareness and feelings. There is no hard divide, as the rape-the-earth crowd would have us believe.. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
