Re: [Tutor] Active Python

2005-02-19 Thread Brian van den Broek
Bill Mill said unto the world upon 2005-02-18 20:29:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:20:03 -0800 (PST), Terry Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Jeff Shannon wrote:

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:54:43 -0800 (PST), Terry Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Interesting -- I prefer the CHM (Windows helpfile), because it's
internally indexed.  I feel that the internal search is more
convenient than external searches would be.  But I suppose that
there's room for reasonable people to disagree, here. :)
Sure, and I'd expect I'm in the minority.
I use Agent Ransack for searching files on my system.  I do a search for,
for example, a filename of html$ containing the word socket  and can get
a pretty good look at what I'm looking for.
I'll bet that the CHM file can do that at least as well, but since
I use Agent Ransack for all my document searches (Python-related or
otherwise), it's most convenient for me use one consistent mechanism.
I'll tell you, if Google desktop had a way of limiting searches to
specific directories, I'd be in heaven.

How do you live without cygwin? Just 'cd' to the directory and 'grep
-r' to search through it. It's the first thing I install on a windows
box, even before python.
Peace
Bill Mill
bill.mill at gmail.com
Hi all,
I like the html docs and Agent Ransack, too. (Not yet command line 
oriented.)

I've lately been making use of pydoc's html documentation server. I 
started when wanting to use it on my own modules; I've been finding it 
is really useful to use for quick reference on built ins, too.

Best,
Brian vdB
___
Tutor maillist  -  Tutor@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor


Re: [Tutor] Active Python

2005-02-18 Thread Terry Carroll
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Jeff Shannon wrote:

 On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:54:43 -0800 (PST), Terry Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  
  I prefer the HTML, because I can then run searches against it from
  outside the help system.  
 
 Interesting -- I prefer the CHM (Windows helpfile), because it's
 internally indexed.  I feel that the internal search is more
 convenient than external searches would be.  But I suppose that
 there's room for reasonable people to disagree, here. :)

Sure, and I'd expect I'm in the minority.

I use Agent Ransack for searching files on my system.  I do a search for,
for example, a filename of html$ containing the word socket  and can get
a pretty good look at what I'm looking for.

I'll bet that the CHM file can do that at least as well, but since 
I use Agent Ransack for all my document searches (Python-related or 
otherwise), it's most convenient for me use one consistent mechanism.

I'll tell you, if Google desktop had a way of limiting searches to 
specific directories, I'd be in heaven.

___
Tutor maillist  -  Tutor@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor


Re: [Tutor] Active Python

2005-02-18 Thread Terry Carroll
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Bill Mill wrote:

 How do you live without cygwin? 

I don't.  I have it installed, too.

But Agent Ransack is more convenient.  If it wasn't free, I'd pay for it.  
It's primarily to search by filename, but the grep-like capability is a 
nice plus.


___
Tutor maillist  -  Tutor@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor


Re: [Tutor] Active Python

2005-02-17 Thread Jeff Shannon
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:54:43 -0800 (PST), Terry Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Robert Campbell wrote:
 
  I am not a programmer, but have decided to learn Python.  I am wondering
  if anyone has used the Activestate ActivePython and what are the
  advantages/disadvantages of using it rather than the standard Python
  tools.
 
 If you're on Windows, I recommend it.
 
 It is the full Python, plus some Windows extensions.

I fully agree.  ActivePython contains everything that you'd get from
the standard distribution, plus extra tools that are especially useful
under Windows.  (I like PythonWin a lot more than IDLE...)
 
 The only downside I've encountered is that, as of 2.4, it no longer
 includes the Help files in their original HTML format.  Instead, there's
 just one big help file in Windows Help format.
 
 I prefer the HTML, because I can then run searches against it from
 outside the help system.  

Interesting -- I prefer the CHM (Windows helpfile), because it's
internally indexed.  I feel that the internal search is more
convenient than external searches would be.  But I suppose that
there's room for reasonable people to disagree, here. :)

Jeff Shannon
___
Tutor maillist  -  Tutor@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor


[Tutor] Active Python

2005-02-16 Thread Robert Campbell



Hi,
I am not a programmer, but have decided to learn Python. I am 
wondering if anyone has used the Activestate ActivePython and what are the 
advantages/disadvantages of using it rather than the standard Python 
tools.

Robert
___
Tutor maillist  -  Tutor@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor