[Tutor] want to chat with someone - phone, skype, or email

2012-01-02 Thread Tamar Osher

Hi!  I have never before learned a programming language, and I started learning 
Python a couple of days ago.  I am wondering: How does a person make the leap 
from reading about Python to doing Python?
There seems to be many fabulous online tutorials.  I have read all the info at 
tutorialspoint.com, but I am still sort of stuck.  I am reading another 
wonderful online tutorial.  But...
I would like to talk to someone.  I don't have any close friends who are 
computer programmers.  Does anyone want to briefly chat, and share their 
experiences about how they did it?
I hope to hear from you.  THANKS! 
From Your Friend: Tamar Osher
Skype Name: tamarosher
Email: emeraldoff...@hotmail.com
Message Phone Number: 011- 1- 513-252-2936





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Re: [Tutor] want to chat with someone - phone, skype, or email

2012-01-02 Thread eire1130

On the python site there is a tutorial called, something like, a non-programers 
guide to python. That is how I started to learn. I then bought somw beginer 
books. I then thought of some problems I wanted to solve and like eighteen 
months later I'm still working on those problems, but along the way I've 
learned a lot

Sorry, I won't skype with you as fun as that sounds =)

 Also I'm replying on my bb so I can't scroll to the bottom.



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Re: [Tutor] want to chat with someone - phone, skype, or email

2012-01-02 Thread Mark Lybrand
On Jan 2, 2012 12:22 PM, Tamar Osher emeraldoff...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi!  I have never before learned a programming language, and I started
learning Python a couple of days ago.  I am wondering: How does a person
make the leap from reading about Python to doing Python?

Not directly responding to the petition for chat opportunities, but to
making the leap.  What has helped me (started with python at the end of
november) was to find problems and apply python to them.  From a simple
password generator,to massage text files and databases.  Just last week my
colleagues asked me to give them some more info on python as one after
another problem gets solved. If you don't have an immediate problem make
one.  One final idea would be to google python challenge. One problem
after another to complete a sort of scavenger hunt.

Mark
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Re: [Tutor] want to chat with someone - phone, skype, or email

2012-01-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano

Tamar Osher wrote:

Hi!  I have never before learned a programming language, and I started
learning Python a couple of days ago.  I am wondering: How does a person
make the leap from reading about Python to doing Python?


Open a terminal window, or an IDE, and start typing code.

That's it. There's no magic. You can read all the books you like, but 
eventually you need to type code. And then you are doing Python.


You say you have read the tutorials. But have you *done* the tutorials, 
actually typing code at a prompt and looking at the result?


If not, then do so. Reading is great, but there is absolutely no substitute 
for *doing*.



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Steven
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Re: [Tutor] want to chat with someone - phone, skype, or email

2012-01-02 Thread Alan Gauld

On 02/01/12 20:20, Tamar Osher wrote:

Hi! I have never before learned a programming language, and I started
learning Python a couple of days ago. I am wondering: *How does a person
make the leap from reading about Python to doing Python?*


You install Python and start typing in code rather than just reading it.
Then you modify the code and see if it does what you expected. Then 
modify it again. Add some new features to the examples in your tutor.


Also try following a mailing list (this one might be a good start!) or 
web forum. There are also a few good video tutorials for a change in style.


But mostly you just start writing code. As your confidence builds
try a project of your own - keep it simple to start with. No, I mean 
really simple! No, even simpler than that!


When things don't work as you expect - and they won't - read the 
documentation and experiment. If that doesn't help ask questions here.


FWIW you are not alone. I'm just in the process of (re-)learning 
Smalltalk using the Squeak environment and I'm doing exactly what I 
describe above. Typing in my book examples then modifying them.

When I get stuck I ask on the squeak-beginners list - and so far
get very few responses! (one up for Python!)


I would like to talk to someone. I don't have any close friends who are
computer programmers. Does anyone want to briefly chat, and share their
experiences about how they did it?


This mailing list is full of people on the same journey. Feel free to 
share your questions and concerns. Even your frustrations. We might not 
resolve all of them but we will try to be helpful! :-)


--
Alan G
Author of the Learn to Program web site
http://www.alan-g.me.uk/

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