Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[Shall, Sydney]

Dear David,
Many thanks for this information.
It was exactly what I needed.
It anyone wants Emacs editor for MAC OS X 10.6, this is the place to 
find it.


I would also like to say that I am deeply impressed with the knowledge 
and generosity of the people on this list.

Thanks.
Sydney




On 04/02/2013 14:58, David Rock wrote:

* Shall, Sydney  [2013-02-03 16:47]:

On 03/02/2013 13:13, Jonatán Guadamuz wrote:

El 03/02/2013, a las 06:53 a.m., "Shall, Sydney"
 escribió:


Dear Alan,
I installed Cocoa emacs successfully.
But it does not run on OS X 10.6.8.
The notes with it say that it was built for 10.4.
Where may I look for an update, please?
With many thanks for your help.
Sydney

Maybe you can look here

aquamacs.org

The first hit I get googling for "cocoa emacs" returns:
http://emacsformacosx.com/

Perhaps that will work for you.  I've tested that it works on my system,
at least ("works" = it ran).




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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[David Rock]

* Shall, Sydney  [2013-02-03 16:47]:
> 
> On 03/02/2013 13:13, Jonatán Guadamuz wrote:
> > El 03/02/2013, a las 06:53 a.m., "Shall, Sydney"
> >  escribió:
> >
> >> Dear Alan,
> >> I installed Cocoa emacs successfully.
> >> But it does not run on OS X 10.6.8.
> >> The notes with it say that it was built for 10.4.
> >> Where may I look for an update, please?
> >> With many thanks for your help.
> >> Sydney
> > Maybe you can look here
> >
> > aquamacs.org

The first hit I get googling for "cocoa emacs" returns:
http://emacsformacosx.com/

Perhaps that will work for you.  I've tested that it works on my system,
at least ("works" = it ran).

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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[Alan Gauld]

On 03/02/13 12:20, Shall, Sydney wrote:

Dear Alan,
I installed Cocoa emacs successfully.
But it does not run on OS X 10.6.8.
The notes with it say that it was built for 10.4.


Sofware built for 10.4 should run fine on 10.6.
But I only have 10.4 so can't do any testing...

Not sure why its broke, but thee are several variants
to choose from, somebody said aquamacs, there are others
too.


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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[James Griffin]

--> Shall, Sydney  [2013-02-02 12:45:15 +]:

> Two free good text editors for the MAC are;
> 1. Komodo
> 2. Text Wrangler.
> hth
> Sydney

aquamacs is the correct gui version to use. There is also a gvim
binary available. Both emacs and vim are installed already on Mac
OS X but in text only versions, no GUI.

I have never used Komodo or Text Wrangler, or any other GUI editor
for that matter so I cannot comment on how good they are. I tend
to spend about 90% of my time using the command-line on my Mac, but
that's just my preference. Some people prefer GUI editors.
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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[Shall, Sydney]

Thanks Jonatan.
Sydney


On 03/02/2013 13:13, Jonatán Guadamuz wrote:

El 03/02/2013, a las 06:53 a.m., "Shall, Sydney"
 escribió:


Dear Alan,
I installed Cocoa emacs successfully.
But it does not run on OS X 10.6.8.
The notes with it say that it was built for 10.4.
Where may I look for an update, please?
With many thanks for your help.
Sydney

Maybe you can look here

aquamacs.org




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E-Mail: sydney.shall,
[correspondents outside the College should add; @kcl.ac.uk]
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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[Jonatán Guadamuz]

El 03/02/2013, a las 06:53 a.m., "Shall, Sydney"
 escribió:

> Dear Alan,
> I installed Cocoa emacs successfully.
> But it does not run on OS X 10.6.8.
> The notes with it say that it was built for 10.4.
> Where may I look for an update, please?
> With many thanks for your help.
> Sydney

Maybe you can look here

aquamacs.org
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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[Shall, Sydney]

Dear Alan,
I installed Cocoa emacs successfully.
But it does not run on OS X 10.6.8.
The notes with it say that it was built for 10.4.
Where may I look for an update, please?
With many thanks for your help.
Sydney


On 02/02/2013 17:49, Alan Gauld wrote:

On 02/02/13 12:57, Shall, Sydney wrote:

Dear Aurelien,
Would you please explain how one installs GNU Emacs on a MAC using OS X
v10.6.


Last time I looked it was already installed. Just type emacs at a 
Terminal prompt.


You can also get a Cocoa version that run in a separate Window, try 
Google for Cocoa emacs...







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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

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* Alan Gauld  [2013-02-02 17:49]:
> On 02/02/13 12:57, Shall, Sydney wrote:
> > Dear Aurelien,
> > Would you please explain how one installs GNU Emacs on a MAC using OS X
> > v10.6.
> 
> Last time I looked it was already installed. Just type emacs at a 
> Terminal prompt.

Verified on 10.6.8

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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[Shall, Sydney]

Thanks for both your comments, Alan. I am wiser now.
Sydney

On 02/02/2013 17:50, Alan Gauld wrote:

On 02/02/13 15:27, Shall, Sydney wrote:


OK. So Bluefish is the Free open-source GNU editor and it is suitable
for Python.



No thats emacs.
Bluefish is an open source web editor(HTML, CSS etc).

It may support Python but its not an ideal IDE.





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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[Alan Gauld]

On 02/02/13 15:27, Shall, Sydney wrote:


OK. So Bluefish is the Free open-source GNU editor and it is suitable
for Python.



No thats emacs.
Bluefish is an open source web editor(HTML, CSS etc).

It may support Python but its not an ideal IDE.


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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[Alan Gauld]

On 02/02/13 12:57, Shall, Sydney wrote:

Dear Aurelien,
Would you please explain how one installs GNU Emacs on a MAC using OS X
v10.6.


Last time I looked it was already installed. Just type emacs at a 
Terminal prompt.


You can also get a Cocoa version that run in a separate Window, try 
Google for Cocoa emacs...




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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[Shall, Sydney]

You are correct, of course.
OK. So Bluefish is the Free open-source GNU editor and it is suitable 
for Python.

We will have a complete menagerie soon.
Thanks.
Sydney


On 02/02/2013 13:23, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote:

Join #emacs on irc.freenode.net and ask them.

I do not bring any support for non free Operating System nor
BrainWashing ones ;-)

"Shall, Sydney"  writes:


Dear Aurelien,
Would you please explain how one installs GNU Emacs on a MAC using OS
X v10.6.
I cannot find a binary package. The GNU site seems to me to have only
source code packages.
Mille fois merci.
Sydney


On 02/02/2013 09:54, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote:

hmm ... you should use GNU Emacs, it's Free in price and license!

Extensible Text Editor with a cool Python-mode ;-)

Jamie Griffin  writes:


* Simon Yan  [2013-02-02 01:11:12 +0800]:


I would recommend start off from a simple text editor that has basic syntax
highlighting features. There are a number of options out there.
TextMate is a good choice, a little pricy.
VIM, if you are a terminal guy
Even Python IDLE is a good choice you wanted to edit just a few simple .py
files.

I would suggest give it a look in the Mac App Store and you will find a few
other good ones too.

I believe the editor of choice on Mac OS X these days is BBEdit -
again, a bit expensive. TextMate used to be good but there are
better ones out there now. Personally, I prefer the commandline
editors, vi or vim which is already installed on Mac OS X. I haven't
used the Xcode editor before but if it's what you're comfortable
with then it's probably best to stick with it.


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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[Aurélien DESBRIÈRES]

Join #emacs on irc.freenode.net and ask them.

I do not bring any support for non free Operating System nor
BrainWashing ones ;-)

"Shall, Sydney"  writes:

> Dear Aurelien,
> Would you please explain how one installs GNU Emacs on a MAC using OS
> X v10.6.
> I cannot find a binary package. The GNU site seems to me to have only
> source code packages.
> Mille fois merci.
> Sydney
>
>
> On 02/02/2013 09:54, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote:
>> hmm ... you should use GNU Emacs, it's Free in price and license!
>>
>> Extensible Text Editor with a cool Python-mode ;-)
>>
>> Jamie Griffin  writes:
>>
>>> * Simon Yan  [2013-02-02 01:11:12 +0800]:
>>>
 I would recommend start off from a simple text editor that has basic syntax
 highlighting features. There are a number of options out there.
 TextMate is a good choice, a little pricy.
 VIM, if you are a terminal guy
 Even Python IDLE is a good choice you wanted to edit just a few simple .py
 files.

 I would suggest give it a look in the Mac App Store and you will find a few
 other good ones too.
>>> I believe the editor of choice on Mac OS X these days is BBEdit -
>>> again, a bit expensive. TextMate used to be good but there are
>>> better ones out there now. Personally, I prefer the commandline
>>> editors, vi or vim which is already installed on Mac OS X. I haven't
>>> used the Xcode editor before but if it's what you're comfortable
>>> with then it's probably best to stick with it.
>>>
>>>
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[Shall, Sydney]

Dear Aurelien,
Would you please explain how one installs GNU Emacs on a MAC using OS X 
v10.6.
I cannot find a binary package. The GNU site seems to me to have only 
source code packages.

Mille fois merci.
Sydney


On 02/02/2013 09:54, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote:

hmm ... you should use GNU Emacs, it's Free in price and license!

Extensible Text Editor with a cool Python-mode ;-)

Jamie Griffin  writes:


* Simon Yan  [2013-02-02 01:11:12 +0800]:


I would recommend start off from a simple text editor that has basic syntax
highlighting features. There are a number of options out there.
TextMate is a good choice, a little pricy.
VIM, if you are a terminal guy
Even Python IDLE is a good choice you wanted to edit just a few simple .py
files.

I would suggest give it a look in the Mac App Store and you will find a few
other good ones too.

I believe the editor of choice on Mac OS X these days is BBEdit -
again, a bit expensive. TextMate used to be good but there are
better ones out there now. Personally, I prefer the commandline
editors, vi or vim which is already installed on Mac OS X. I haven't
used the Xcode editor before but if it's what you're comfortable
with then it's probably best to stick with it.


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E-Mail: sydney.shall,
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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[Shall, Sydney]

Text Wrangler is a free, cut-down version of BB-Edit, I think.
Sydney



On 02/02/2013 09:31, Jamie Griffin wrote:

* Simon Yan  [2013-02-02 01:11:12 +0800]:


I would recommend start off from a simple text editor that has basic syntax
highlighting features. There are a number of options out there.
TextMate is a good choice, a little pricy.
VIM, if you are a terminal guy
Even Python IDLE is a good choice you wanted to edit just a few simple .py
files.

I would suggest give it a look in the Mac App Store and you will find a few
other good ones too.

I believe the editor of choice on Mac OS X these days is BBEdit -
again, a bit expensive. TextMate used to be good but there are
better ones out there now. Personally, I prefer the commandline
editors, vi or vim which is already installed on Mac OS X. I haven't
used the Xcode editor before but if it's what you're comfortable
with then it's probably best to stick with it.


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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[Shall, Sydney]

Two free good text editors for the MAC are;
1. Komodo
2. Text Wrangler.
hth
Sydney



On 01/02/2013 17:11, Simon Yan wrote:




On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Dustin Guerri > wrote:


Thanks for replying, Simon.  I have no particular reason to use
Xcode - what would you recommend instead ?

I would recommend start off from a simple text editor that has basic 
syntax highlighting features. There are a number of options out there.

TextMate is a good choice, a little pricy.
VIM, if you are a terminal guy
Even Python IDLE is a good choice you wanted to edit just a few simple 
.py files.


I would suggest give it a look in the Mac App Store and you will find 
a few other good ones too.




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On 1 February 2013 13:05, Simon Yan mailto:simon...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:




On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Dustin Guerri
mailto:dustingue...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi there,

I'm trying to create a plain text file called "hello.py"
with the following text :

print('hello world')
raw_input('Press any key to continue')

I'd then like to run this program with Python Launcher on
a Mac.

I'd lke to use Xcode as my text editor.  Once I have Xcode
open, which template should I use to input the text ?

I don't think there is a file type of Python that you can
create from Xcode.
Just curious, why would you want to use XCode as a Python editor?


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E-Mail: sydney.shall,
[correspondents outside the College should add; @kcl.ac.uk]
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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

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hmm ... you should use GNU Emacs, it's Free in price and license!

Extensible Text Editor with a cool Python-mode ;-)

Jamie Griffin  writes:

> * Simon Yan  [2013-02-02 01:11:12 +0800]:
>
>> I would recommend start off from a simple text editor that has basic syntax
>> highlighting features. There are a number of options out there.
>> TextMate is a good choice, a little pricy.
>> VIM, if you are a terminal guy
>> Even Python IDLE is a good choice you wanted to edit just a few simple .py
>> files.
>> 
>> I would suggest give it a look in the Mac App Store and you will find a few
>> other good ones too.
>
> I believe the editor of choice on Mac OS X these days is BBEdit -
> again, a bit expensive. TextMate used to be good but there are
> better ones out there now. Personally, I prefer the commandline
> editors, vi or vim which is already installed on Mac OS X. I haven't
> used the Xcode editor before but if it's what you're comfortable
> with then it's probably best to stick with it.
>
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* Simon Yan  [2013-02-02 01:11:12 +0800]:

> I would recommend start off from a simple text editor that has basic syntax
> highlighting features. There are a number of options out there.
> TextMate is a good choice, a little pricy.
> VIM, if you are a terminal guy
> Even Python IDLE is a good choice you wanted to edit just a few simple .py
> files.
> 
> I would suggest give it a look in the Mac App Store and you will find a few
> other good ones too.

I believe the editor of choice on Mac OS X these days is BBEdit -
again, a bit expensive. TextMate used to be good but there are
better ones out there now. Personally, I prefer the commandline
editors, vi or vim which is already installed on Mac OS X. I haven't
used the Xcode editor before but if it's what you're comfortable
with then it's probably best to stick with it.


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On 01/02/13 12:05, Simon Yan wrote:


I'd lke to use Xcode as my text editor.  Once I have Xcode open,
which template should I use to input the text ?



I don;t know about templates but there are instructions on the MacPython 
pages that tell you how to set up XCode. I used it for some experiments 
in Cocoa programming on my Mac. But it was a while ago.



Just curious, why would you want to use XCode as a Python editor?


Lots of possible reasons:
1) He is already using XCode for other Mac projects and
   wants a familiar tool
2) XCode is a better editor than IDLE
3) He wants to do Cocoa (Mac GUI) programming and XCode
   provides integration with the MacOS GUI creator
4) He wants to have a mixed language program using
   Objective C and Python in the same project.

Any and all are perfectly reasonable and valid.

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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

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On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Dustin Guerri wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I'm trying to create a plain text file called "hello.py" with the
> following text :
>
> print('hello world')
> raw_input('Press any key to continue')
>
> I'd then like to run this program with Python Launcher on a Mac.
>
> I'd lke to use Xcode as my text editor.  Once I have Xcode open, which
> template should I use to input the text ?
>
I don't think there is a file type of Python that you can create from Xcode.
Just curious, why would you want to use XCode as a Python editor?


>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [Tutor] First Python Test

[Simon Yan]

On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Dustin Guerri wrote:

> Thanks for replying, Simon.  I have no particular reason to use Xcode -
> what would you recommend instead ?
>
I would recommend start off from a simple text editor that has basic syntax
highlighting features. There are a number of options out there.
TextMate is a good choice, a little pricy.
VIM, if you are a terminal guy
Even Python IDLE is a good choice you wanted to edit just a few simple .py
files.

I would suggest give it a look in the Mac App Store and you will find a few
other good ones too.


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> On 1 February 2013 13:05, Simon Yan  wrote:
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>>
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>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Dustin Guerri wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to create a plain text file called "hello.py" with the
>>> following text :
>>>
>>> print('hello world')
>>> raw_input('Press any key to continue')
>>>
>>> I'd then like to run this program with Python Launcher on a Mac.
>>>
>>> I'd lke to use Xcode as my text editor.  Once I have Xcode open, which
>>> template should I use to input the text ?
>>>
>> I don't think there is a file type of Python that you can create from
>> Xcode.
>> Just curious, why would you want to use XCode as a Python editor?
>>
>>
>>>
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