Re: [Tutor] IDLE problems
OK, so from Finder. In that case can you open a Terminal window and drag the python folder into the Terminal - that should navigate you to the same folder. Then try running IDLE by typing python ./idle.py At the terminal prompt. I meant to say that this will let you see any error messages from running IDLE. If you get any, post them here. Here's what I get: Last login: Wed Mar 7 11:27:19 on ttys000 MacBook-001FF3569577-4:~ fedka2$ /Applications/Python\ 3.2 -bash: /Applications/Python 3.2: is a directory MacBook-001FF3569577-4:~ fedka2$ python ./idle.py /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Resources/Python.app/Contents/MacOS/Python: can't open file './idle.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory MacBook-001FF3569577-4:~ fedka2$ I don't seem to be getting a terminal prompt after dragging the folder into the shell?? Thanks again Paul ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] IDLE problems
Sorry, I was assuming too much knowledge I suspect. Last login: Wed Mar 7 11:27:19 on ttys000 MacBook-001FF3569577-4:~ fedka2$ /Applications/Python\ 3.2 This line is the prompt plus the folder that you dragged :- /Applications/Python\ 3.2 You needed to type cd first (no RETURN just cd) - I took that step for granted, sorry. then drop the folder But since we now know the folder name you could just type cd /Applications/Python\ 3.2 That should give you a terminal prompt of: MacBook-001FF3569577-4: /Applications/Python 3.2$ If that is where idle.py is? I would expect it to be lower down than that... Then you can type python ./idle.py If, as I suspect, idle.py is lower in the folder structure you will need to modify things by providing the path to idle.py I hope that's clearer. One of the barriers to programming on a Mac for most users is that they pretty much have to learn how to drive the Terminal. And that's kind of a counter-culture to Mac users. Alan G ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] IDLE problems
Thanks again, I'm going to push my luck and ask you a final question on this subject, you've been really helpful. Should I be able to locate idle.py with a spotlight search. I can't seem to locate it... Here is what terminal gave me MacBook-001FF3569577-4:~ fedka2$ cd /Applications/Python\ 3.2 MacBook-001FF3569577-4:Python 3.2 fedka2$ python ./idle.py /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Resources/Python.app/Contents/MacOS/Python: can't open file './idle.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory MacBook-001FF3569577-4:Python 3.2 fedka2$ Thanks again, and here's to the hillwalking (I'm in the French Jura, so it is no stranger to me) Paul On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:30 PM, ALAN GAULD alan.ga...@btinternet.com wrote: Sorry, I was assuming too much knowledge I suspect. Last login: Wed Mar 7 11:27:19 on ttys000 MacBook-001FF3569577-4:~ fedka2$ /Applications/Python\ 3.2 This line is the prompt plus the folder that you dragged :- /Applications/Python\ 3.2 You needed to type cd first (no RETURN just cd) - I took that step for granted, sorry. then drop the folder But since we now know the folder name you could just type cd /Applications/Python\ 3.2 That should give you a terminal prompt of: MacBook-001FF3569577-4: /Applications/Python 3.2$ If that is where idle.py is? I would expect it to be lower down than that... Then you can type python ./idle.py If, as I suspect, idle.py is lower in the folder structure you will need to modify things by providing the path to idle.py I hope that's clearer. One of the barriers to programming on a Mac for most users is that they pretty much have to learn how to drive the Terminal. And that's kind of a counter-culture to Mac users. Alan G ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] IDLE problems FIXED
Thanks Alan, It seems like it was a keybinding issue. When I dragged IDLE into a terminal window I got a laundry list of errors having to do with correct keys. I switched to a built in key set classic mac, and I'm running. I really appreciated your help with this. Paul On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Alan Gauld alan.ga...@btinternet.com wrote: On 06/03/12 18:12, ALAN GAULD wrote: OK, so from Finder. In that case can you open a Terminal window and drag the python folder into the Terminal - that should navigate you to the same folder. Then try running IDLE by typing python ./idle.py At the terminal prompt. I meant to say that this will let you see any error messages from running IDLE. If you get any, post them here. -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] IDLE problems
On 06/03/12 09:51, Paul Douglas Grant wrote: issue running python on mac snow leopard 10.6.8. I was running a version of python that was preinstalled on my computer. At some point in reading the python website I saw that version 3.2.2 was available and recommended. After downloading and installing it along with ActiveTcl 8.5.11. When I opened IDLE to run *hello world* nothing happened, just a hard return...I tried reinstalling an earlier version 2.7, same problem. Reinstalled 3.2.2, same issue. Sorry, it's not really clear what you mean here. I'll try asking some questions to clarify things: Did you uninstall the version that came with MacOS? (If so that was probably a mistake!) What happens if you open a terminal and type 'python'? Do you get to the python prompt? If so with which version? Did you have IDLE working in the original install? (My iBook didn't have IDLE support included, I had to add that myself, but I don't know about newer Macs) You probably didn't need ActiveTcl, the Mac ActivePython should have had all that you needed. OTOH it shouldn't do any harm either... Can you run wish in a terminal and get the Tcl/Tk prompt/window? How did you try to open IDLE? (Finder, Terminal, or shortcut?) What do you mean by a hard return? regards, -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] IDLE problems
Please use ReplyAll to include the group. formulation of the question. Ultimately the brute question is why can't I get IDLE to work... I did uninstall the version that came with mac. In a terminal I get version 2.7.2(?) OK, That's good because I think that's the same as the default install on SnowLeopard which means the things that MacOS uses Python for will probably still work... IDLE was working with the original install. OK, That's good too. I run IDLE simply by opening the IDLE icon in the Python folder. OK, so from Finder. In that case can you open a Terminal window and drag the python folder into the Terminal - that should navigate you to the same folder. Then try running IDLE by typing python ./idle.py At the terminal prompt. I don't believe I have wish, at least not after a spotlight search. Odd given you installed Tcl/Tk, but not a problem. As for hard return, the cursor moves to the next line but not response to the *hello world* string. OK, is this in the IDLE shell? In other words are you actually getting IDLE to open with a Python prompt showing? If not where are you typing the command, and what *exactly* are you typing. If you can cut 'n paste into a mail so much the better! Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] IDLE problems
On 06/03/12 18:12, ALAN GAULD wrote: OK, so from Finder. In that case can you open a Terminal window and drag the python folder into the Terminal - that should navigate you to the same folder. Then try running IDLE by typing python ./idle.py At the terminal prompt. I meant to say that this will let you see any error messages from running IDLE. If you get any, post them here. -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] IDLE problems
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Pearce Michal yodaalmighty2...@gmail.com wrote: ok, so I just started working with python, however I have been working with Java for awhile, and am fairly familiar with it. my problem with Python is for the IDLE editor, and it is this: the return key, or enter key not only moves the editor to the next line, but also executes the script. IDLE has two kinds of windows - a shell window, which executes commands as they are typed, and an editor window. The shell window is handy for interactive exploration but, as you discovered, pretty useless for creating a real program. File / New Window will open an editor window that behaves the way you want. Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
