Re: [TV orNotTV] And Number 12 is...

2013-08-06 Thread M-D November
On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:17:45 PM UTC-4, Adam Bowie wrote:
>
> For an example of what I mean compare and contrast the beginning of, say, 
> The Daily Show, where an audience has been hyped up and are definitely 
> giving Jon Stewart (or John Oliver) a standing ovation as the show starts, 
> with perhaps our most popular chat show at the moment, Graham Norton. At 
> the end of that show, he has to practically tell the audience to stand up 
> to clap along to his end credit music. 
>

Having attended a TDS taping a couple of years back, I have to say I was 
pleasantly surprised to see that the warm-up comedian doesn't really do a 
ton to hype the audience.  The taping is almost always proceeded by Jon's 
Q&A with the audience, and aside from pumping a little Springsteen into the 
studio before the VTR rolls, there's little else.  (There's no "HERE COME 
CRAIG!" for example.)

I don't know about Colbert's studio audience, but I would expect that 
they're encouraged to be rowdy to feed Colbert's character.

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Writers urge Feds to roll back indecency rules for primetime shows

2013-08-06 Thread M-D November
Colbert touched on this at the end of last night's show - aided by Dr. 
House himself, Hugh Laurie.

http://on.cc.com/14fGEcZ

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 8:40:24 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:
>
> The continuing troublemaking from groups such as Parents' Television 
> Council now draws the ire of the Writers Guild of America/West, who join 
> NBCU in calling for the Commish to step up revamping of regulations they 
> see as encouraging the griping and having a "chilling effect" on content...
>
>
> http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/wgaw-urges-fcc-phase-out-primetime-indecency-rules-108426
>
> -- B.
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Seacrest Completes 75% of His Plan To Dominate Broadcast Television

2013-08-06 Thread Terry Knab
There's another joke I won't make. J

 

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Terry Knab, to Joe Hass:

I just get annoyed seeing him everywhere.  How the heck is anyone else ever
going to get work if he gets it all?

CBS doesn't see him as an actor.  -- B.
 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Ifill-Woodruff Report

2013-08-06 Thread Kevin M.
I like the concept; we'll see how expertly it is executed. Being a
public news broadcast, it'd be nice if entire episodes were available
as a free podcast or on a YouTube channel for viewers.

On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:24 PM, PGage  wrote:
> PBS announced today that Gwen Ifill and Judy Woodruff will be co-anchors and
> (importantly) co-managing editors of Newshour:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/business/media/gwen-ifill-and-judy-woodruff-to-co-anchor-newshour.html?_r=0
>
> This addresses what many viewers (including me) and critics have felt was a
> weakness in recent years of the broadcast - the mix and match anchors that
> gave no consistency to the show, especially when Lehr was still the managing
> editor. Jeffrey Brown, Ray Suarez and Margaret Warner will stay with the
> program as chief correspondents, each with an area of expertise “that will
> also help define the program”.
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[TV orNotTV] Al Roker oversleeps...

2013-08-06 Thread Bob in Jersey
...and misses a show for the first time in *years*.

Yes, this really happened.  I knew they should've left his effing Weather 
Channel show at its former time...

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-al-roker-oversleeps-20130806,0,2482182.story

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[TV orNotTV] MTV continues to not program more videos

2013-08-06 Thread Bob in Jersey
Someone must have lost track of days at the LAT, 'cuz if they announced 
this Wednesday, it's either a weird look into the future (see *Early Edition
*) or the story is damned near a whole ing week old...

Four new series at the Viacom net include one about virgins, something they 
actually broached way back in '07...

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-mtv-looks-to-food-and-virgins-for-new-reality-series-20130805,0,542936.story

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Seacrest Completes 75% of His Plan To Dominate Broadcast Television

2013-08-06 Thread Bob in Jersey

Terry Knab, to Joe Hass:
>
> I just get annoyed seeing him everywhere.  How the heck is anyone else 
> ever going to get work if he gets it all?
>
CBS doesn't see him as an actor.  -- B.
 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Bezos Buys The WaPo

2013-08-06 Thread Joe Hass
The definitive tweet/image on the topic:
http://jimromenesko.com/2013/08/05/best-tweet-and-graphic-about-jeff-bezos-buying-the-washington-post/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] And Number 12 is...

2013-08-06 Thread Joe Hass
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Adam Bowie  wrote:

> For an example of what I mean compare and contrast the beginning of, say,
> The Daily Show, where an audience has been hyped up and are definitely
> giving Jon Stewart (or John Oliver) a standing ovation as the show starts,
> with perhaps our most popular chat show at the moment, Graham Norton. At
> the end of that show, he has to practically tell the audience to stand up
> to clap along to his end credit music.
>

I would greatly appreciate more performers taking the role of David
Letterman, who specifically asks his audience to not do the standing
ovation thing.

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RE: [TV orNotTV] Seacrest Completes 75% of His Plan To Dominate Broadcast Television

2013-08-06 Thread Terry Knab
I just get annoyed seeing him everywhere.  How the heck is anyone else ever
going to get work if he gets it all?

 

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Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Seacrest Completes 75% of His Plan To Dominate
Broadcast Television

 

I use the Dick Clark conquering method: he has to be hosting something that
regularly airs on the network. So while he produces Jamie Oliver's show and
hosts NYRE, I don't consider him to be a member of ABC (unless I'm
forgetting something)

 

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, PGage  wrote:

I suppose next up will be Seacrest staring in a new NCIS Spinoff...

 

http://news.yahoo.com/ryan-seacrest-host-nbc-game-show-144222633.html

 

"NBC says Ryan Seacrest will host "The Million Second Quiz," a new live game
show the network hopes will become event programming for two weeks in
September.

 

The network said Monday it is constructing a giant hourglass-shaped
structure in Manhattan for the game, which will involve contestants testing
their trivia skills over a million seconds, or 11 days, 13 hours, 46 minutes
and 40 seconds. A contestant leading the game earns $10 per second for
sitting in the "money chair," with a potential payoff of millions of
dollars.

 

The show will air for six straight nights starting Sept. 9, then return for
four nights starting Sept. 16."

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[TV orNotTV] Mentalist to trade in two investigators

2013-08-06 Thread Bob in Jersey
Not Lisbon or Cho, but Rigsby and Van Pelt, reportedly after the show jumps 
the shark by unmasking Red John... Bruno Heller denies to Ausiello...

http://tvline.com/2013/08/06/amanda-righetti-owain-yeoman-leaving-the-mentalist-season-6/

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[TV orNotTV] Writers urge Feds to roll back indecency rules for primetime shows

2013-08-06 Thread Bob in Jersey
The continuing troublemaking from groups such as Parents' Television 
Council now draws the ire of the Writers Guild of America/West, who join 
NBCU in calling for the Commish to step up revamping of regulations they 
see as encouraging the griping and having a "chilling effect" on content...

http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/wgaw-urges-fcc-phase-out-primetime-indecency-rules-108426

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[TV orNotTV] The Ifill-Woodruff Report

2013-08-06 Thread PGage
PBS announced today that Gwen Ifill and Judy Woodruff will be co-anchors
and (importantly) co-managing editors of Newshour:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/business/media/gwen-ifill-and-judy-woodruff-to-co-anchor-newshour.html?_r=0

This addresses what many viewers (including me) and critics have felt was a
weakness in recent years of the broadcast - the mix and match anchors that
gave no consistency to the show, especially when Lehr was still the
managing editor. Jeffrey Brown, Ray Suarez and Margaret Warner will stay
with the program as chief correspondents, each with an area of expertise
“that will also help define the program”.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Bezos Buys The WaPo

2013-08-06 Thread PGage
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 2:49 PM, John Edwards  wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:31 PM, David Bruggeman  wrote:
> > Maybe it's just the way this thread has gone, but to what extent has
> Bezos
> > said, if at all, about how the Washington Post (be it the paper or the
> > company) would relate to Amazon.  I kind of figured this was more along
> the
> > lines of an Elon Musk SpaceX or Tesla activity - a subsequent/side
> project -
> > rather than an extension of the corps business into a new thing (say
> > Microsoft getting into gaming).
> >
> > In other words, is this something Bezos wanted to do as his next big
> thing,
> > or is this something he thinks makes sense in growing Amazon?  Personally
> > I'm much more comfortable with the former rather than the latter, though
> I
> > think Bezos would be willing to make the paper a loss leader under either
> > scenario.
>
> The Post's own article
> (
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/washington-post-to-be-sold-to-jeff-bezos/2013/08/05/ca537c9e-fe0c-11e2-9711-3708310f6f4d_story.html
> )
> says that Bezos is buying the paper, and that Amazon "will have no
> role in the purchase."
>
> So, while the thought of "other people who viewed this page also
> viewed Pages A4, B7 and C1" at the bottom of page B2 amuses me, it
> doesn't look like there would necessarily be a direct connection.


I think I mentioned originally that Bezos was buying the Post with his own
personal cash. He is staying in WA, and the WaPo management will stay in
place.

But that does not change who Bezos is, and how he thinks and operates,
which is likely to be similar to how he has managed Amazon. I actually
would not be surprised to see washingtonpost.com one day pushing readers to
stories similar to, or often read by, a story just clicked on by a visitor.
More importantly though, WaPo dot com may one day soon be able to charge
more to online advertisers because it is able to more effectively
personalize ads to readers based on a number of characteristics.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Bezos Buys The WaPo

2013-08-06 Thread John Edwards
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:31 PM, David Bruggeman  wrote:
> Maybe it's just the way this thread has gone, but to what extent has Bezos
> said, if at all, about how the Washington Post (be it the paper or the
> company) would relate to Amazon.  I kind of figured this was more along the
> lines of an Elon Musk SpaceX or Tesla activity - a subsequent/side project -
> rather than an extension of the corps business into a new thing (say
> Microsoft getting into gaming).
>
> In other words, is this something Bezos wanted to do as his next big thing,
> or is this something he thinks makes sense in growing Amazon?  Personally
> I'm much more comfortable with the former rather than the latter, though I
> think Bezos would be willing to make the paper a loss leader under either
> scenario.

The Post's own article
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/washington-post-to-be-sold-to-jeff-bezos/2013/08/05/ca537c9e-fe0c-11e2-9711-3708310f6f4d_story.html)
says that Bezos is buying the paper, and that Amazon "will have no
role in the purchase."

So, while the thought of "other people who viewed this page also
viewed Pages A4, B7 and C1" at the bottom of page B2 amuses me, it
doesn't look like there would necessarily be a direct connection.

John

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Bezos Buys The WaPo

2013-08-06 Thread David Bruggeman
Maybe it's just the way this thread has gone, but to what extent has Bezos 
said, if at all, about how the Washington Post (be it the paper or the company) 
would relate to Amazon.  I kind of figured this was more along the lines of an 
Elon Musk SpaceX or Tesla activity - a subsequent/side project - rather than an 
extension of the corps business into a new thing (say Microsoft getting into 
gaming).

In other words, is this something Bezos wanted to do as his next big thing, or 
is this something he thinks makes sense in growing Amazon?  Personally I'm much 
more comfortable with the former rather than the latter, though I think Bezos 
would be willing to make the paper a loss leader under either scenario.


David




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Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:19 PM
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Joe Hass  wrote:

I have. But the fundamental challenge is that they're doing it regionally 
(similar to same-day delivery or next-day hand delivery) as opposed to 
nationally. Costco needs only to open a single store to be able to serve a 
small metro area. It's not a question of if they can do it in LA/NYC/Seattle. 
It's whether they can pull it off in Rochester/Grand Rapids/Tucson.

RIght - but this is just the roll out so they can figure out the details. The 
WaPo stories have noted that  Bezos is no longer opposed to legislation 
requiring online retailers to pay state sales tax, since he now plans on having 
physical operations in all 50 states and would have to pay sales tax anyway. 
Soon enough they will have warehouses and delivery infrastructure in Grand 
Rapids Iowa and Rochester New York. Like I said, they are coming.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Bezos Buys The WaPo

2013-08-06 Thread PGage
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Joe Hass  wrote:

> I have. But the fundamental challenge is that they're doing it regionally
> (similar to same-day delivery or next-day hand delivery) as opposed to
> nationally. Costco needs only to open a single store to be able to serve a
> small metro area. It's not a question of if they can do it in
> LA/NYC/Seattle. It's whether they can pull it off in Rochester/Grand
> Rapids/Tucson.
>

RIght - but this is just the roll out so they can figure out the details.
The WaPo stories have noted that  Bezos is no longer opposed to legislation
requiring online retailers to pay state sales tax, since he now plans on
having physical operations in all 50 states and would have to pay sales tax
anyway. Soon enough they will have warehouses and delivery infrastructure
in Grand Rapids Iowa and Rochester New York. Like I said, they are coming.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] And Number 12 is...

2013-08-06 Thread Adam Bowie
I must admit I almost thought that they'd get out of their seats. At least
some of them. However, you must remember:

a) We're far more conservative (small 'c') than you, and it takes a lot to
rouse us or make us leap up in exclamation anyway, and

b) I suspect that aware that it could appear just a little too over the top
(to British viewers' eyes), floor managers were instructed to tell the
audience to remain in their seats throughout.

For an example of what I mean compare and contrast the beginning of, say,
The Daily Show, where an audience has been hyped up and are definitely
giving Jon Stewart (or John Oliver) a standing ovation as the show starts,
with perhaps our most popular chat show at the moment, Graham Norton. At
the end of that show, he has to practically tell the audience to stand up
to clap along to his end credit music.

I'm not saying you can't hype a British audience up if you try. But you
*do* have to try!


Adam


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Brad Beam  wrote:

> *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *M-D November
> **
> 
>
> *>*I kept thinking to myself "At least they're trying harder than ESPN
> did with 'The Decision'...", but ultimately it was the same thing - a 30min
> special that could have been boiled down to 5min.  Although I appreciate
> the fact that the Beeb got perspective from past Doctors, companions and
> fans (Stephen Hawking!), I found myself wishing the uberfans brought up to
> the live stage were a bit more polished as talking heads and/or that they'd
> just used past companions (YAY Bernard Cribbins - but where was Karen
> Gillan? Or Billie Piper?  Or Catherine Tate? Hell, they could have gotten
> Arthur Darvill via satellite from his "Once" dressing room in NYC...)  And
> as for Zoe Ball...I feel like they really needed a Whovian more than they
> needed a host - I know he's from the wrong side of the pond, but I'd have
> preferred someone like Chris Hardwick.
>
> ** **
>
> The ratings are in: the special drew nearly 7m on BBC1.
>
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/Fans-Prove-Doctor-Who-belongs-to-all-of-us
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Coming from a country that (a)gives a standing ovation to a Kardashian and
> (b)has no cultural equivalent to “Doctor Who”, I was surprised to see the
> studio audience remain seated during the entire show. (And it’s not like it
> was just a bunch of office staff; there were some cosplayers there.)
>
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RE: [TV orNotTV] And Number 12 is...

2013-08-06 Thread Brad Beam
From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of M-D November


>I kept thinking to myself "At least they're trying harder than ESPN did
with 'The Decision'...", but ultimately it was the same thing - a 30min
special that could have been boiled down to 5min.  Although I appreciate the
fact that the Beeb got perspective from past Doctors, companions and fans
(Stephen Hawking!), I found myself wishing the uberfans brought up to the
live stage were a bit more polished as talking heads and/or that they'd just
used past companions (YAY Bernard Cribbins - but where was Karen Gillan? Or
Billie Piper?  Or Catherine Tate? Hell, they could have gotten Arthur
Darvill via satellite from his "Once" dressing room in NYC...)  And as for
Zoe Ball...I feel like they really needed a Whovian more than they needed a
host - I know he's from the wrong side of the pond, but I'd have preferred
someone like Chris Hardwick.
 
The ratings are in: the special drew nearly 7m on BBC1.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/Fans-Prove-Doctor-Who-belongs-
to-all-of-us
 
Coming from a country that (a)gives a standing ovation to a Kardashian and
(b)has no cultural equivalent to "Doctor Who", I was surprised to see the
studio audience remain seated during the entire show. (And it's not like it
was just a bunch of office staff; there were some cosplayers there.)
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Bezos Buys The WaPo

2013-08-06 Thread Joe Hass
I have. But the fundamental challenge is that they're doing it regionally
(similar to same-day delivery or next-day hand delivery) as opposed to
nationally. Costco needs only to open a single store to be able to serve a
small metro area. It's not a question of if they can do it in
LA/NYC/Seattle. It's whether they can pull it off in Rochester/Grand
Rapids/Tucson.


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:33 PM, PGage  wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Joe Hass  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:12 PM, PGage  wrote (in
>> part):
>>
>>> As the long article linked here notes, Bezos is known for his long-term
>>> thinking, and does not require immediate turnaround or profit.
>>>
>>
>> I think I've mentioned here that I am a huge Costco fan (in addition to a
>> shareholder). The one thing that has made me consistently nervous about
>> their long-term prognosis is whenever the CEO or whomever talks about their
>> relationship to Amazon, especially when it comes to fresh food. Costco has
>> consistently said they don't believe that there's a profitable way to
>> handle *nationwide* home delivery of grocery, especially perishables. The
>> problem is that Amazon has never, ever cared about profit. If Amazon
>> decided one day to create a national version of Peapod, they'd do it and
>> keep doing it, even if they were burning cash. That's where Amazon (and
>> Bezos) makes me (as a Costco shareholder) extremely nervous.
>>
>> For the record: I do not have an Amazon Prime account, but if I moved to
>> a location where there were no Costcos, I would have one in a heartbeat.
>>
>
> Have you seen stories like this - the're coming:
> http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun/11/business/la-fi-amazon-groceries-20130611
>
> One reason they will be willing to deliver groceries at a loss is they see
> it as a way to get more people dependent on ordering stuff from the Zon.
>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Bezos Buys The WaPo

2013-08-06 Thread PGage
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Joe Hass  wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:12 PM, PGage  wrote (in part):
>
>> As the long article linked here notes, Bezos is known for his long-term
>> thinking, and does not require immediate turnaround or profit.
>>
>
> I think I've mentioned here that I am a huge Costco fan (in addition to a
> shareholder). The one thing that has made me consistently nervous about
> their long-term prognosis is whenever the CEO or whomever talks about their
> relationship to Amazon, especially when it comes to fresh food. Costco has
> consistently said they don't believe that there's a profitable way to
> handle *nationwide* home delivery of grocery, especially perishables. The
> problem is that Amazon has never, ever cared about profit. If Amazon
> decided one day to create a national version of Peapod, they'd do it and
> keep doing it, even if they were burning cash. That's where Amazon (and
> Bezos) makes me (as a Costco shareholder) extremely nervous.
>
> For the record: I do not have an Amazon Prime account, but if I moved to a
> location where there were no Costcos, I would have one in a heartbeat.
>

Have you seen stories like this - the're coming:
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun/11/business/la-fi-amazon-groceries-20130611

One reason they will be willing to deliver groceries at a loss is they see
it as a way to get more people dependent on ordering stuff from the Zon.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Seacrest Completes 75% of His Plan To Dominate Broadcast Television

2013-08-06 Thread Joe Hass
I use the Dick Clark conquering method: he has to be hosting something that
regularly airs on the network. So while he produces Jamie Oliver's show and
hosts NYRE, I don't consider him to be a member of ABC (unless I'm
forgetting something)

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, PGage  wrote:

> I suppose next up will be Seacrest staring in a new NCIS Spinoff...
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/ryan-seacrest-host-nbc-game-show-144222633.html
>
> "NBC says Ryan Seacrest will host "The Million Second Quiz," a new live
> game show the network hopes will become event programming for two weeks in
> September.
>
> The network said Monday it is constructing a giant hourglass-shaped
> structure in Manhattan for the game, which will involve contestants testing
> their trivia skills over a million seconds, or 11 days, 13 hours, 46
> minutes and 40 seconds. A contestant leading the game earns $10 per second
> for sitting in the "money chair," with a potential payoff of millions of
> dollars.
>
> The show will air for six straight nights starting Sept. 9, then return
> for four nights starting Sept. 16."
>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Bezos Buys The WaPo

2013-08-06 Thread Joe Hass
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:12 PM, PGage  wrote (in part):

> As the long article linked here notes, Bezos is known for his long-term
> thinking, and does not require immediate turnaround or profit.
>

I think I've mentioned here that I am a huge Costco fan (in addition to a
shareholder). The one thing that has made me consistently nervous about
their long-term prognosis is whenever the CEO or whomever talks about their
relationship to Amazon, especially when it comes to fresh food. Costco has
consistently said they don't believe that there's a profitable way to
handle *nationwide* home delivery of grocery, especially perishables. The
problem is that Amazon has never, ever cared about profit. If Amazon
decided one day to create a national version of Peapod, they'd do it and
keep doing it, even if they were burning cash. That's where Amazon (and
Bezos) makes me (as a Costco shareholder) extremely nervous.

For the record: I do not have an Amazon Prime account, but if I moved to a
location where there were no Costcos, I would have one in a heartbeat.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Bezos Buys The WaPo

2013-08-06 Thread Diner

On Monday, August 5, 2013 11:12:26 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote: 
>
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/washington-post-to-be-sold-to-jeff-bezos/2013/08/05/ca537c9e-fe0c-11e2-9711-3708310f6f4d_story.html
>  
>
> Though not a TV story, I wonder what folks here think of this development 
> (it is arguably a major event in the broader media world). In this day and 
> age it seems rare to have a story like this take us by such surprise, 
> though I guess it is not really surprising to see a newspaper getting sold, 
> for a relative bargain - Bezos paid $250 million, in cash (the NYT just 
> sold the Boston Globe for $70M, after buying it for $1.1B in 1993); his net 
> worth is $25.2 Billion.
>
>  
>
 
Jimmy Fallon had a line last night (not an exact quote): "The Boston Globe 
was just sold for $70 million, after having been sold in 1993 for $1.1 
billion. I couldn't believe that story when I read it for free on the 
internet."
 
-Tim

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