Re: [TV orNotTV] Who Belongs in the VIP Emmy Obits?

2013-09-21 Thread M-D November
I was thinking one of the Marshalls or Neil Simon.  Or, if you wanted to invoke 
Quincy, Glen A Larson. 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Man no longer taking on food

2013-09-21 Thread David Bruggeman
Listed on the NBC website as for the fall (though the copy suggests it was 
planned for summer).

http://www.nbc.com/food-fighters/

Perhaps in the Saturday night rerun/specials block?


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Bob in Jersey  wrote:
> When was this NBC show they mention on?

"Food Fighters"? Never heard of it, but here's a detailed description
from March when it was picked up.

http://www.deadline.com/2013/03/nbc-picks-up-culinary-game-show-hosted-by-adam-richman-produced-by-electus/

No indication that it has aired anywhere yet.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Man no longer taking on food

2013-09-21 Thread Ed Dravecky
Bob in Jersey  wrote:
> When was this NBC show they mention on?

"Food Fighters"? Never heard of it, but here's a detailed description
from March when it was picked up.

http://www.deadline.com/2013/03/nbc-picks-up-culinary-game-show-hosted-by-adam-richman-produced-by-electus/

No indication that it has aired anywhere yet.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Five Most DVR-Worthy New Shows?

2013-09-21 Thread Ed Dravecky
PGage  wrote:
> "Almost Human" did not make it to my radar - looks like the kind of show I
> would like (also looks like I will be hearing a lot about it during the
> World Series). I will check that one out.

I was ready to dismiss it until I saw the 3-minute preview on demand
and I think they may actually have something there. A few episodes
will tell.

> Do you have reason to really believe Crazy Ones will be worth watching, or
> is that just residual Robin Williams credit you are giving it. There are a
> lot of red lights on this show for me.

It's James Wolk (aka Bob Benson of "Mad Men") that has me looking
forward to this one. Yes, Robin Williams can still be a big plus if he
doesn't sleepwalk through it, but SMG already redeemed her "you loved
me in Buffy so watch my next show" coupon by making me stick through 5
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[TV orNotTV] Man no longer taking on food

2013-09-21 Thread Bob in Jersey
HuffPost gathers a photo progression of Adam Richman's weight loss...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/20/adam-richman-weight-loss_n_3963159.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

When was this NBC show they mention on?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Five Most DVR-Worthy New Shows?

2013-09-21 Thread PGage
"Almost Human" did not make it to my radar - looks like the kind of show I
would like (also looks like I will be hearing a lot about it during the
World Series). I will check that one out.

Do you have reason to really believe Crazy Ones will be worth watching, or
is that just residual Robin Williams credit you are giving it. There are a
lot of red lights on this show for me.


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> My personal most anticipated? "Agents of SHIELD", "Almost Human",
> "Blacklist", "The Tomorrow People", and "The Crazy Ones".
>
> I'll throw in honorable mentions for the limited series "Hostages" and
> "Once Upon A Time In Wonderland" but if CBS makes noises about a
> second season for "Hostages" then I'll learn from my "Under the Dome"
> mistake and bail immediately.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Five Most DVR-Worthy New Shows?

2013-09-21 Thread Ed Dravecky
My personal most anticipated? "Agents of SHIELD", "Almost Human",
"Blacklist", "The Tomorrow People", and "The Crazy Ones".

I'll throw in honorable mentions for the limited series "Hostages" and
"Once Upon A Time In Wonderland" but if CBS makes noises about a
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[TV orNotTV] Five Most DVR-Worthy New Shows?

2013-09-21 Thread PGage
I am trying to get my DVR auto-recordings organized for the new season. I
got this list from a poll on tvbtn, which I think is all new shows
premiering on US Fall broadcast TV. Any nominations for the 5 best of
these? I would also be interested in any new cable or UK shows available on
PBS or BBCA not included in the list.

My preliminary list is: Hostages, Blacklist, MJFox, Agents of Shield and
Brooklyn Nine-Nine (though Tuesday is quickly looking like a tough night
for 2-tuner DVRs, especially once MLB playoffs and NBA season start). I am
thinking of trying to find a place for Sleepy Hollow and Ironside, and
maybe The Millers.

Hostages (CBS)
Mom (CBS)
The Crazy Ones (CBS)
The Millers (CBS)
We Are Men (CBS)
Blacklist (NBC)
Dracula (NBC)
Ironside (NBC)
Sean Saves The World (NBC)
The Michael J. Fox Show (NBC)
Welcome To The Family (NBC)
Agents of SHIELD (ABC)
Back in the Game (ABC)
Betrayal (ABC)
Goldbergs (ABC)
Lucky 7 (ABC)
Once Upon A Time In Wonderland (ABC)
Super Fun Night (ABC)
Trophy Wife (ABC)
Almost Human (FOX)
Brooklyn Nine-Nine (FOX)
Dads (FOX)
Junior Masterchef (FOX)
Sleepy Hollow (FOX)
Reign (CW)
The Originals (CW)
The Tomorrow People (CW)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Who Belongs in the VIP Emmy Obits?

2013-09-21 Thread PGage
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Jon Delfin  wrote:

> I've seen similar arguments favoring other late celebs over Monteith. I
> suspect the decision came down to which tributes would make for better
> television. I'm given to understand that the featured five will be heralded
> with fanfare in the form of other celebs (MJFox, Rob Reiner, Robin
> Williams). What attention-getting big name could they have gotten to talk
> about Klugman?
>

Penny Marshall? Or, I guess maybe even more apt, her brother (I thought of
Penny with the Rob Reiner cue)?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'Sleepy Hollow' Premiere Rings Bell for Fox

2013-09-21 Thread David Lynch
On 21 September 2013 14:39, Jon Delfin  wrote:

> Fox and FXX continue to misunderstand viewing habits, and hold their
> on-demand access until eight days after broadcast (except for some online
> access to certain cable subscribers, not including me). This is especially
> damaging to W. Kamau Bell's "Totally Biased," where the topical humor
> really shouldn't have to sit on the shelf for a week.
>
>
I believe that the original plan for the 8-day delay was that they were
going to sell access within the first week as a subscription deal (which I
thought might actually be a pretty smart move to side-step cord cutting).
Have they given up on that?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'Sleepy Hollow' Premiere Rings Bell for Fox

2013-09-21 Thread Jon Delfin
Fox and FXX continue to misunderstand viewing habits, and hold their
on-demand access until eight days after broadcast (except for some online
access to certain cable subscribers, not including me). This is especially
damaging to W. Kamau Bell's "Totally Biased," where the topical humor
really shouldn't have to sit on the shelf for a week.


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> Bob in Jersey  wrote:
> > Another piece at The Wrap noted that Dads, with all its questioned humor,
> > improved noticeably on Raising Hope's figgers in the same slot last year,
> > and likewise with Brooklyn Nine-Nine over Ben and Kate...
>
> I watched 'em both with Robyn and we're willing to try a few more
> episodes but they'll have to be on demand since "Agents of SHIELD" and
> "NCIS" will be absorbing both tuners on the DVR starting this week.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Who Belongs in the VIP Emmy Obits?

2013-09-21 Thread Jon Delfin
I've seen similar arguments favoring other late celebs over Monteith. I
suspect the decision came down to which tributes would make for better
television. I'm given to understand that the featured five will be heralded
with fanfare in the form of other celebs (MJFox, Rob Reiner, Robin
Williams). What attention-getting big name could they have gotten to talk
about Klugman?


On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:06 PM, PGage  wrote:

> Adam Klugman, one of Jack Klugman's sons, is irritated that the Academy
> has decided to bump his dad from the new highlighted memorial in the
> broadcast, in favor of Corey Monteith. The Emmy's decided to lift out 5 of
> the recently departed for special attention this year - the other four
> VIPs, whose credentials are hard to argue, are: Gary David Goldberg,
> Jonathan Winters,  James Gandolfini and Jean Stapleton.
>
>
> http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/tv/la-et-st-emmys-2013-jack-klugman-cory-monteith-20130920,0,7412808.story
>
> I knew Adam Klugman tangentially when we were kids, and always loved his
> father, and I never saw Monteith's work, so I am a little biased. I don't
> think the issue is that Monteith's tragic death was "self-inflicted", but
> that Klugman's body of work was just, objectively, so much larger.
>
> The larger point of course is that it was inevitable when they decided to
> do this that they would be offending someone who got bumped down to the
> coach-class death reel. In fact, Adam's point that the Emmy's chose
> Monteith in a raw grab to attract young viewers is probably not cynical
> enough; the whole plan might be a crude attempt to generate controversy and
> interest every year in seeing who gets the ultimate Emmy snub.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'Sleepy Hollow' Premiere Rings Bell for Fox

2013-09-21 Thread Ed Dravecky
Bob in Jersey  wrote:
> Another piece at The Wrap noted that Dads, with all its questioned humor,
> improved noticeably on Raising Hope's figgers in the same slot last year,
> and likewise with Brooklyn Nine-Nine over Ben and Kate...

I watched 'em both with Robyn and we're willing to try a few more
episodes but they'll have to be on demand since "Agents of SHIELD" and
"NCIS" will be absorbing both tuners on the DVR starting this week.


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[TV orNotTV] Ken Jennings offered "Million-Second" spot...

2013-09-21 Thread PGage
Ratings for the MSQ Finale: 1.3 in the demo, 4.95M total viewers. This was
good for third place among broadcast programs (behind X-Factor and a Big
Bang rerun), and no doubt behind the NFL game, and maybe also behind
Project Runway?).

That is up from 1.1 the previous Thursday (about an 18% increase), so some
did come back to see who would win, but must still qualify as a
disappointment, though these ratings are probably better than whatever NBC
had on at the same time last year.

I took the whole ride, but never did fall in love. I might be interested to
see how they would tweek it if they were to do it again. It is not so much
that the structure is too complicated, as that it is not very compelling.
And the difficulty level of the questions seemed to me to be easy enough
that luck, rather than knowledge would be the final determiner. I think
this turned out to be true in the actual final match, but I give them
credit for apparently identifying the two strongest players in the Finale.
I wonder if they were expecting more conflict and drama in the winners row,
where instead they got a lot of solidarity and group identity.

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[TV orNotTV] Who Belongs in the VIP Emmy Obits?

2013-09-21 Thread PGage
Adam Klugman, one of Jack Klugman's sons, is irritated that the Academy has
decided to bump his dad from the new highlighted memorial in the broadcast,
in favor of Corey Monteith. The Emmy's decided to lift out 5 of the
recently departed for special attention this year - the other four VIPs,
whose credentials are hard to argue, are: Gary David Goldberg, Jonathan
Winters,  James Gandolfini and Jean Stapleton.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/tv/la-et-st-emmys-2013-jack-klugman-cory-monteith-20130920,0,7412808.story

I knew Adam Klugman tangentially when we were kids, and always loved his
father, and I never saw Monteith's work, so I am a little biased. I don't
think the issue is that Monteith's tragic death was "self-inflicted", but
that Klugman's body of work was just, objectively, so much larger.

The larger point of course is that it was inevitable when they decided to
do this that they would be offending someone who got bumped down to the
coach-class death reel. In fact, Adam's point that the Emmy's chose
Monteith in a raw grab to attract young viewers is probably not cynical
enough; the whole plan might be a crude attempt to generate controversy and
interest every year in seeing who gets the ultimate Emmy snub.

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[TV orNotTV] Cable Fights Back: Expanding On-Demand vs Streaming

2013-09-21 Thread PGage
WSJ article yesterday on attempts by Comcast and others to make deals to
provide full season episodes On Demand to marginalize Netflix and friends;
Netflix warns it will pay less for series that were previously available
On-Demand for entire seasons. Content providers trying to figure out who it
is in their best interest to please.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324807704579083170996190590.html?mod=WSJ_GoogleNews&mod=igoogle_wsj_gadgv1

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[TV orNotTV] Bob Greenblatt sticking with NBC

2013-09-21 Thread Bob in Jersey
Now if he get them better ratings numbers and ad revenue...

http://www.thewrap.com/bob-greenblatts-nbc-contract-renewed-through-2017/

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[TV orNotTV] Re: 'Sleepy Hollow' Premiere Rings Bell for Fox

2013-09-21 Thread Bob in Jersey
Another piece at The Wrap noted that *Dads*, with all its questioned humor, 
improved noticeably on *Raising Hope*'s figgers in the same slot last year, 
and likewise with *Brooklyn Nine-Nine* over *Ben and Kate*...

http://www.thewrap.com/fall-premieres-week-1-how-sleepy-hollow-and-other-new-shows-ratings-stacked-up/

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[TV orNotTV] SemiTV: Fun with press junkets

2013-09-21 Thread Bob in Jersey
What happens when big celebs get together with daft interviewers from other 
nations... videos available...

http://www.thewrap.com/justin-timberlake-gets-butt-in-a-box-during-awkward-interview-in-brazil-5-other-press-junkets-gone-wild-video/

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[TV orNotTV] F&F caster pieved with his SNL lampooner

2013-09-21 Thread Bob in Jersey
Brian Kilmeade is a big guy, but not big in the way that would inspire the 
NBC show to have Bobby Moynihan play him in sendups of his program... video 
from Mediaite available...

http://www.thewrap.com/fox-friends-diss-snl-star-bobby-moynihans-weight-video/

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