[TV orNotTV] Re: Dave gets the JIP treatment?
stannc, in part: Is someone at WBTV letting the interns run the equipment again? Of course! The veterans are all watching the game and talking (and talking, and talking, *and* *talking*) about it afterwards. It's the Atlantic Coast Conference obviously, but was this the Duke/UNC game that got postponed by a previous storm? B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] TJ Quinn fills in for KO...
...after the latter came down with shingles, per Lisa D. Letterman had it once... so did my dad... a be-itch. http://www.deadline.com/2014/02/keith-olbermann-explains-mia-on-espn/ B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Q scores in for many breakfast-show folks...
http://www.thewrap.com/q-scores-morning-tv-robin-roberts-kathie-lee-gifford-matt-lauer B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] TJ Quinn fills in for KO...
TJ was the third guest host this week, but his was the first word on the program about why Keith was out. When KO is away, the show shrinks to 30 minutes and loses most of the sports highlights. I don't miss them, but that's just me. David From: Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: [TV orNotTV] TJ Quinn fills in for KO... ...after the latter came down with shingles, per Lisa D. Letterman had it once... so did my dad... a be-itch. http://www.deadline.com/2014/02/keith-olbermann-explains-mia-on-espn/ B -- -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Dave gets the JIP treatment?
Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote: stannc, in part: Is someone at WBTV letting the interns run the equipment again? Of course! The veterans are all watching the game and talking (and talking, and talking, *and* *talking*) about it afterwards. It's the Atlantic Coast Conference obviously, but was this the Duke/UNC game that got postponed by a previous storm? Yep. Good guys* won it, 74-66. *Good guys meaning Carolina, of course. PS: Duke still sucks. ~D -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Conan theme songs
How Conan was able to take the closing theme with him to TBS: Jimmy Vivino wrote and holds the copyright on the closing music, I believe. Interestingly enough, as of the beginning of Feburary the titles on Conan began to be compressed, so the theme's shorter, we open with the family getting out of the car and running into the house (they stopped doing the Thursday couch gag bit with the family some time ago) and the nightly Quinn Martin homage of Tonight's Episode has ended (although they got far away from imitating the Adjective of Death/Murder Martin episode titles early on and Andy never tried to imitate Hank Sims). Mark Jeffries Saints Spotlight Editor spotligh...@gmail.com On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:53 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: For comparison (first two with voiceover, because the sources aren't official): Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien - http://vimeo.com/68007756 Late Night With Conan O'Brien - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unxMor6iI-M(couldn't find a theme isolated version) Conan - http://static.teamcoco.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Conan-Intro-Music.mp3 The two themes pre-TBS are substantially similar (co-written by Howard Shore). I read one account that describes the Tonight Show version as a bit slower, but my ears didn't catch it. David -- *From:* M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com *To:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2014 5:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] Fallon Ties Conan 'Tonight' Premiere in Nielsens, Still Beat by Big Jaw's (Second) Farewell Re: Conan's Tonight theme - wasn't it exactly the same as his Late Night theme, only rearranged to include more instrumentation (since the Tonight Show Band was bigger than the Max Weinberg Seven)? Remember, he's using different opening title music on his TBS show than he did on Tonight. (A side question: how is it that Conan was able to keep his NBC end title/goodnight music but not his opening title?) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] A Random Question That May Open Pandora's Box
Is there a true broadcast-quality DVR with the feature set of a TiVo? If so, why wouldn't a network showing a live sporting event with no TV timeouts (say, Olympic hockey) effectively pause the broadcast to insert commercial breaks, then catch up to live during intermissions or halftime? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Dave gets the JIP treatment?
Duke does, indeed, suck. Let's go Orange! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/30/OttotheOrange.svg/248px-OttotheOrange.svg.png On Friday, February 21, 2014 10:53:01 AM UTC-5, BigOShowtime wrote: Bob Jersey bob.in...@juno.com javascript: wrote: stannc, in part: Is someone at WBTV letting the interns run the equipment again? Of course! The veterans are all watching the game and talking (and talking, and talking, *and* *talking*) about it afterwards. It's the Atlantic Coast Conference obviously, but was this the Duke/UNC game that got postponed by a previous storm? Yep. Good guys* won it, 74-66. *Good guys meaning Carolina, of course. PS: Duke still sucks. ~D -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [TV orNotTV] A Random Question That May Open Pandora's Box
Because A) then the broadcast isn't truly "live", which actually is a thing if you prefer to watch TV while listening to a different audio source on the radio or internetand 2) because lots of times there is game-related information/interviews/entertainment during the intermissions or halftimes that the fans also want to see. Personally, I prefer the non-stop action of hockey and soccer. If something noteworthy happens during the break, they'll show a replay as soon as you return to the action. If you've ever attended a college/pro basketball or football game, the TV timeouts are absolutely maddening while everybody stands around waiting for the red lights to reappear on the cameras. Seems like the butts in the seats should get first considerations, since they're the ones actually paying to come and watch the game.Doug FieldsTampa, FL Original Message Subject: [TV orNotTV] A Random Question That May Open Pandora's Box From: Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com Date: Fri, February 21, 2014 1:18 pm To: TV Or Not TV tvornottv@googlegroups.com Is there a true broadcast-quality DVR with the feature set of a TiVo? If so, why wouldn't a network showing a live sporting event with no TV timeouts (say, Olympic hockey) effectively pause the broadcast to insert commercial breaks, then catch up tolive during intermissions or halftime? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] A Random Question That May Open Pandora's Box
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:25 PM, d...@flids.net wrote: A) then the broadcast isn't truly live, which actually is a thing if you prefer to watch TV while listening to a different audio source on the radio or internet I completely get the second half of this. 2) because lots of times there is game-related information/interviews/entertainment during the intermissions or halftimes that the fans also want to see. Personally, I prefer the non-stop action of hockey and soccer. To be clear, I do as well. I'm just surprised that, given the cash involved in sports these days, this kind of thing hasn't happened, even if fans understood that they were watching at a (relatively brief) delay. For example, there were no media timeouts (in the NHL it's the first non-goal, non-icing, non-power play whistle after the 14, 10, and 6 minutes to go marks) Even if you were to throw three 90-second breaks in there using Extra Strength TiVo, you'd lose 4:30 during the intermission, which you could easily reduce the commercial load on without sacrificing content (and depending on whose doing the intermission may not be a bad thing). Of course, CBC was an old pro at throwing in 30-second spots throughout the period with a gentleman's agreement with the officials that they'd stall just a little bit when they went to break. It was when the NHL said they wanted to quicken the game by reducing stalling that the media said, Well, then you have to give us media timeouts. I do wonder how viewers would respond if this ever came to pass. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] A Random Question That May Open Pandora's Box
Same with WGN and the Blackhawks in the Lloyd Petit days--all of the in-period breaks were 30 seconds and usually the puck dropped on the 31st second. Mark Jeffries Saints Spotlight Editor spotligh...@gmail.com On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:25 PM, d...@flids.net wrote: A) then the broadcast isn't truly live, which actually is a thing if you prefer to watch TV while listening to a different audio source on the radio or internet I completely get the second half of this. 2) because lots of times there is game-related information/interviews/entertainment during the intermissions or halftimes that the fans also want to see. Personally, I prefer the non-stop action of hockey and soccer. To be clear, I do as well. I'm just surprised that, given the cash involved in sports these days, this kind of thing hasn't happened, even if fans understood that they were watching at a (relatively brief) delay. For example, there were no media timeouts (in the NHL it's the first non-goal, non-icing, non-power play whistle after the 14, 10, and 6 minutes to go marks) Even if you were to throw three 90-second breaks in there using Extra Strength TiVo, you'd lose 4:30 during the intermission, which you could easily reduce the commercial load on without sacrificing content (and depending on whose doing the intermission may not be a bad thing). Of course, CBC was an old pro at throwing in 30-second spots throughout the period with a gentleman's agreement with the officials that they'd stall just a little bit when they went to break. It was when the NHL said they wanted to quicken the game by reducing stalling that the media said, Well, then you have to give us media timeouts. I do wonder how viewers would respond if this ever came to pass. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] A Random Question That May Open Pandora's Box
My father - who lived in NY in the 60s - claims that the first time US TV tried football (soccer), they had officials hold up throw ins and corners to squeeze a thirty second spot in. In answer to the original query, I'm certain that there ate no technical difficulties, but the broadcaster would be hammered for doing it. Are there really not enough spots already through the games for as much inventory as NBC can sell to be 'got away?' On 21 Feb 2014 20:43, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.com wrote: Same with WGN and the Blackhawks in the Lloyd Petit days--all of the in-period breaks were 30 seconds and usually the puck dropped on the 31st second. Mark Jeffries Saints Spotlight Editor spotligh...@gmail.com On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:25 PM, d...@flids.net wrote: A) then the broadcast isn't truly live, which actually is a thing if you prefer to watch TV while listening to a different audio source on the radio or internet I completely get the second half of this. 2) because lots of times there is game-related information/interviews/entertainment during the intermissions or halftimes that the fans also want to see. Personally, I prefer the non-stop action of hockey and soccer. To be clear, I do as well. I'm just surprised that, given the cash involved in sports these days, this kind of thing hasn't happened, even if fans understood that they were watching at a (relatively brief) delay. For example, there were no media timeouts (in the NHL it's the first non-goal, non-icing, non-power play whistle after the 14, 10, and 6 minutes to go marks) Even if you were to throw three 90-second breaks in there using Extra Strength TiVo, you'd lose 4:30 during the intermission, which you could easily reduce the commercial load on without sacrificing content (and depending on whose doing the intermission may not be a bad thing). Of course, CBC was an old pro at throwing in 30-second spots throughout the period with a gentleman's agreement with the officials that they'd stall just a little bit when they went to break. It was when the NHL said they wanted to quicken the game by reducing stalling that the media said, Well, then you have to give us media timeouts. I do wonder how viewers would respond if this ever came to pass. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] A Random Question That May Open Pandora's Box
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote: My father - who lived in NY in the 60s - claims that the first time US TV tried football (soccer), they had officials hold up throw ins and corners to squeeze a thirty second spot in. In answer to the original query, I'm certain that there ate no technical difficulties, but the broadcaster would be hammered for doing it. Are there really not enough spots already through the games for as much inventory as NBC can sell to be 'got away?' Fair question. You're not adding spots: rather, you'd move that time into the game action. Given how intermissions are frequently filled on the local level (and on the national level if it involves Mike Millbury), I'd actually not mind having the intermission time reduced from a TV perspective. I'd assume that advertisers would pay more for in-game spots than intermission spots. To be clear, the idea is that the time that you're behind would be made up at the intermission, not lagging throughout the game. So for football, if you inserted two 150-second breaks every approximately 15 minutes, then you'd join halftime five minutes in so the kickoff for the second half is live (with the presumption that matches that go to extra time would not have breaks in extra time, just like they do here for playoff OTs in hockey.) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Chelsea Peeved at Bill Carter
In a HuffPo blog post entitled No One Puts Baby in Parentheses, Handler doesn't like the fact that in an article on the latest changes in late-night, Bill Carter referred to her this way: (The only female host in late-night is Chelsea Handler, 38, on E!)--All of the other hosts weren't in parentheses: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chelsea-handler/no-one-puts-baby-in-paren_b_4830076.html She points out that it's not because of what anyone thinks about Chelsea Lately (the soundtrack of which now simulcasts weeknights on Sirius XM's Raw Dog Comedy channel) or that her age has been revealed (she's probably said her age at least once on her show), it's just that she feels that she has achieved success in her own niche in late-night that's being marginalized because of her gender. And even if you don't care for her (and one of our regulars has made it very clear in the past that he doesn't think much of her comedy style), that is a valid point. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] A Random Question That May Open Pandora's Box
As I say, technically there be no problem. But it'd be awful from a fan's perspective. If you're watching a game live, then you really want it live. Not at 30 seconds - 4 minutes' delay. How would that work with social media? It's one thing watching at event at 9pm in a Today at the Olympics highlights package. You know that if you want to avoid the ice skating result, you just should avoid the internet/text messages/electronic billboards with news etc. But if you're sitting on your sofa watching the game and someone listening to it on the radio, or in the ground Tweets a touchdown a couple of minutes before you see it, that might just get infuriating. Of course, if you stream your sports via the internet, something like that may be your reality today. But you know why. And you know that if you watched via an over-the-air broadcast, you'd only be looking at fractions of a second delay. There are delays built into different broadcast mechanisms anyway. Depending on the transmission stream, satellite delivered video tends to take longer to arrive than other forms. Then there are the various levels on encoding and decoding going on by cable boxes and at the local distributors' ends. I know from experience at the last World Cup that one office had TVs showing a game via two different feeds at either end of the room. It quickly got very annoying for one group of workers hear the other group cheer at events 10-15 seconds before they saw it! If I listen to a UK football match on the radio in my kitchen where there is no TV, I know that if I hear a goal described on the radio (a digital radio broadcast too), I have time to step into my living room to see the goal on my TV which gets its picture via satellite. Probably a 20 second delay altogether. The radio broadcast chain is faster in this instance. I'm not naive enough to not realise that sports bodies are part of a commercial industry who's biggest concern is the massive broadcasting contracts they sign with TV broadcasters. But the appeal of sport to viewers is built around the nature of the way the game is played. And if a broadcaster can't find a financial model to commercialise their coverage without impacting on the game's timing, then I'm not sure I want to watch. Adding breaks to games just to fit in TV spots can disrupt it from a fan's perspective. Football remains the most popular sport in the world, and TV companies across the globe have realised that they just have to build commercial opportunities around two uninterrupted 45 minute periods. You might sponsor the scorebox as I know MLS does. You might run a solid 15 minute commercial block at half-time as many European stations do. Or you might just use the scarcity of those premium spots just pre and post the game to massively drive up prices as tends to happen in the UK (Half-time spots in the England v Italy game in Brazil this summer are already at record levels. And this is for a game that won't kick off until 11pm local time in the UK - midnight in Italy). Force a break in play to accommodate a 30 second spot, and you'd disrupt the very nature of what makes the game as popular and as exciting as it is. Of course some sports are more start stop in nature - from tennis to baseball and cricket. There are natural breaks. And the same is true to an extent with NFL. Although I'd note that its near neighbour, rugby, is broadcast continuously, without - it's fair to say - whole teams of players being replaced when possession changes. But maybe someobody will try artificially squeezing extra adverts in, in this way. I won't be watching those broadcasts though. Adam On 21 Feb 2014 21:24, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote: My father - who lived in NY in the 60s - claims that the first time US TV tried football (soccer), they had officials hold up throw ins and corners to squeeze a thirty second spot in. In answer to the original query, I'm certain that there ate no technical difficulties, but the broadcaster would be hammered for doing it. Are there really not enough spots already through the games for as much inventory as NBC can sell to be 'got away?' Fair question. You're not adding spots: rather, you'd move that time into the game action. Given how intermissions are frequently filled on the local level (and on the national level if it involves Mike Millbury), I'd actually not mind having the intermission time reduced from a TV perspective. I'd assume that advertisers would pay more for in-game spots than intermission spots. To be clear, the idea is that the time that you're behind would be made up at the intermission, not lagging throughout the game. So for football, if you inserted two 150-second breaks every approximately 15 minutes, then you'd join halftime five minutes in so the kickoff for the second half is live (with the presumption that matches that go to extra time would not have
[TV orNotTV] Ks East of the Mississippi
Next week, KJWP, a MeTv affiliate is being added to cable systems in the Philadelphia area, adding yet another anomalous TV station call letter combination in Philadelphia (KYW Channel 3, the current CBS and former NBC affiliate is a double anomaly, three letters beginning with a K east of the Mississippi) The reason is interesting. KJWP was a station out west in Wyoming and they used an FCC loophole to move. The loophole is that they could move to any state that did not have its own television station, so they moved the station to Delaware. Well, not quite. It has a Delaware affiliation, but the antenna exists in the Philly antenna farm in the Roxborough section of the city. -- +++ Joe Coughlin http://www.twitter.com/inturnaround -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Ks East of the Mississippi
Joe Coughlin wrote: Next week, KJWP, a MeTv affiliate is being added to cable systems in the Philadelphia area, adding yet another anomalous TV station call letter combination in Philadelphia (KYW Channel 3, the current CBS and former NBC affiliate is a double anomaly, three letters beginning with a K east of the Mississippi) That would look very interesting on the Channels Listed in the Philadelphia Edition page of TV Guide -- aw, phooey. The reason is interesting. KJWP was a station out west in Wyoming and they used an FCC loophole to move. The loophole is that they could move to any state that did not have its own television station, so they moved the station to Delaware. Well, not quite. It has a Delaware affiliation, but the antenna exists in the Philly antenna farm in the Roxborough section of the city. Loophole applying to commercial VHF stations, that is -- Delaware already has WHYY (noncommercial VHF), WDPB (noncommercial UHF) and WPPX (commercial UHF). -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Chelsea Peeved at Bill Carter
She's being marginalized because she is a marginal talent. That she's a woman doesn't factor into it. Her ratings, fame, following, success, do not rival those actively engaged in the newly revived talk show wars. She's a knife at a gun show. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote: In a HuffPo blog post entitled No One Puts Baby in Parentheses, Handler doesn't like the fact that in an article on the latest changes in late-night, Bill Carter referred to her this way: (The only female host in late-night is Chelsea Handler, 38, on E!)--All of the other hosts weren't in parentheses: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chelsea-handler/no-one-puts-baby-in-paren_b_4830076.html She points out that it's not because of what anyone thinks about Chelsea Lately (the soundtrack of which now simulcasts weeknights on Sirius XM's Raw Dog Comedy channel) or that her age has been revealed (she's probably said her age at least once on her show), it's just that she feels that she has achieved success in her own niche in late-night that's being marginalized because of her gender. And even if you don't care for her (and one of our regulars has made it very clear in the past that he doesn't think much of her comedy style), that is a valid point. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] The Sounds of Silence
The sound board in the studio for the WGN Morning News on the Tribune-owned CW station in Chicago blew up this morning and for about 20 minutes there was no studio sound--the only sound available other than the commercials from Master Control was reporter Nancy Loo doing a live shot on Michigan Ave. while anchors Larry Potash and Robin Baumgarten held up cards at the camera as if they were auditioning for Match Game: http://www.robertfeder.com/2014/02/21/quiet-on-the-set-wgn-morning-news-falls-silent/ -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Chelsea Peeved at Bill Carter
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote: In a HuffPo blog post entitled No One Puts Baby in Parentheses, Handler doesn't like the fact that in an article on the latest changes in late-night, Bill Carter referred to her this way: (The only female host in late-night is Chelsea Handler, 38, on E!)--All of the other hosts weren't in parentheses: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chelsea-handler/no-one-puts-baby-in-paren_b_4830076.html She points out that it's not because of what anyone thinks about Chelsea Lately (the soundtrack of which now simulcasts weeknights on Sirius XM's Raw Dog Comedy channel) or that her age has been revealed (she's probably said her age at least once on her show), it's just that she feels that she has achieved success in her own niche in late-night that's being marginalized because of her gender. And even if you don't care for her (and one of our regulars has made it very clear in the past that he doesn't think much of her comedy style), that is a valid point. For 2013 Handler averaged 571,000 Viewers, less than 2/3 of the next lowest Late Night audience (Conan, 914,000). It is actually kind of hard to get the numbers for Handler's show (I got the above from this article about Jimmy Fallon, following links from the wikis: http://adage.com/article/media/jimmy-fallon-s-tonight-show-thrive-fewer-viewers/291646/). I have read reports that her audience has declined since 2013, and may now be under 500,000. The Handler wiki page, apparently edited by fans, emphasizes not actual numbers, but how she has in the past attracted more young women than some of her competitors. I don't blame Carter for treating her in a parentheses, but I also don't blame her for pushing back on it, and really, unless the NYT has some kind of policy requiring treating all late night shows with ratings under 750,000 in parentheses, it was a little thoughtless of him to single her out for parenthetic treatment. I am surprised that anyone would even suggest noting her age was a problem - I think every article I have read about the late night hosts in the build up to the Fallon take-over has mentioned and often focused on the hosts age. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Garrick Utley passes
From prostate cancer, at age 74: http://www.robertfeder.com/2014/02/21/garrick-utley-1939-2014/ -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Garrick Utley passes
a related post led me to this. http://www.robertfeder.com/2014/02/21/quiet-on-the-set-wgn-morning-news-falls-silent/ audio problems cause the hosts of the morning show to hold up signs, with the only working mic being the lady covering the storm on the street. On 2014-02-21 7:45 PM, K.M. Richards wrote: From prostate cancer, at age 74: http://www.robertfeder.com/2014/02/21/garrick-utley-1939-2014/ -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Fred Silverman not dead
And, in fact, still active (presumably as a freelancer) helping stations bolster local (non-news) programming... among his observations, that local weatherpeople are bigger celebs locally than many national figures (I'll vouch for that here in PA)... http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/74322/silverman-out-to-remake-local-broadcasting B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Amazon Deal for Feb 21st: Full House: The Complete Series Collection on DVD
From 2007. Hurry, expires 12mid west. About $55 (68 % off). http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005DVIP94/ref=gbsl_tit_l-1_9102_a7839fc0?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_t=701pf_rd_s=left-new-1pf_rd_r=1K2AJHTQHJMS3G102Z32pf_rd_i=20pf_rd_p=1725149102 B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] 'Cards' producer to Maryland gov: Give us tax credits, or we'll bolt
Not like the state didn't pay them anything... it's just that the legislature can't decide on how much to appropriate for this year, putting the third season on hold till a vote. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/house-of-cards-threatens-to-leave-if-maryland-comes-up-short-on-tax-credits/2014/02/20/bf9a8206-9a70-11e3-b931-0204122c514b_story.html?tid=pm_pop B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Is the B!tch back?
Krysten Ritter, evicted from *...Apt. 23*, is in talks to costar in Will Ferrell's *Burgundy*-like period comedy *Mission Control* planned for NBC... she'll get producer credit, too... http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/krysten-ritter-star-nbcs-astronaut-682243 B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Cards' producer to Maryland gov: Give us tax credits, or we'll bolt
I've heard idle speculation that the promised job impacts based on the tax credits are comparable to the touted benefits of publicly financed stadiums. That is, overblown. Is anyone familiar with research in this area? David From: Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:21 PM Subject: [TV orNotTV] 'Cards' producer to Maryland gov: Give us tax credits, or we'll bolt Not like the state didn't pay them anything... it's just that the legislature can't decide on how much to appropriate for this year, putting the third season on hold till a vote. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/house-of-cards-threatens-to-leave-if-maryland-comes-up-short-on-tax-credits/2014/02/20/bf9a8206-9a70-11e3-b931-0204122c514b_story.html?tid=pm_pop B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] A Random Question That May Open Pandora's Box
On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote: Joe Hass: Is there a true broadcast-quality DVR with the feature set of a TiVo? Yes, it's TiVo Premiere. RCN cable systems offer them. TiVo Premiere is not broadcast-quality. The devices that broadcast outlets use for DVR-type functions are quite different from consumer-level DVRs. Here's one example: http://www.360systems.com/products_highdef.html -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
