RE: [TV orNotTV] Netflix in Bed with Cable?

[bradfo...@dwx.com]

  24 is also still airing uncut and commercial-free on DirecTV. (And I still 
have no interest in watching it.)



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I noticed a month ago or so that 24, which has been streaming on Netflix for 
many years, rotated off. In it self not remarkable, one of the facts of Netflix 
life is dealing with such things. But it was a bit odd, given that the new 24 
Miniseries is starting soon, and a big part of Netflix' business model seems to 
be catch-up or refresher binge viewing in advance of a new season. 


Then I noticed that all seasons of 24 are now available on Comcast - but only 
for purchase (I guess they are allowing free viewing of the first episodes of 
each season). Was this a coincidence? Did Netflix's 24 contract happen to 
expire in March, and Comcast jumped on the opportunity to sell it to customers 
whose interest might be peeked by the new show? Or, did Netflix surrender its 
right to stream 24, in exchange for either cash or consideration from Comcast 
and maybe other cablers? This suspicion is stoked by another observation that 
House of Cards is now available for viewing on some cable systems.


24 is still streaming for on Amazon Prime, so paying for it on cable is not the 
only option. But I would be unhappy if Netflix was colluding with cable to 
prevent its subscribers for streaming content included in the Netflix monthly 
fee so that cablers can then charge for it separately.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Netflix in Bed with Cable?

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

I don't have an answer for you, but the recent Netflix deals with cable 
companies for streaming bandwidth make me think you hypothesis deserves some 
investigation.

David

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> On May 1, 2014, at 9:51 PM, PGage  wrote:
> 
> I noticed a month ago or so that 24, which has been streaming on Netflix for 
> many years, rotated off. In it self not remarkable, one of the facts of 
> Netflix life is dealing with such things. But it was a bit odd, given that 
> the new 24 Miniseries is starting soon, and a big part of Netflix' business 
> model seems to be catch-up or refresher binge viewing in advance of a new 
> season. 
> 
> Then I noticed that all seasons of 24 are now available on Comcast - but only 
> for purchase (I guess they are allowing free viewing of the first episodes of 
> each season). Was this a coincidence? Did Netflix's 24 contract happen to 
> expire in March, and Comcast jumped on the opportunity to sell it to 
> customers whose interest might be peeked by the new show? Or, did Netflix 
> surrender its right to stream 24, in exchange for either cash or 
> consideration from Comcast and maybe other cablers? This suspicion is stoked 
> by another observation that House of Cards is now available for viewing on 
> some cable systems.
> 
> 24 is still streaming for on Amazon Prime, so paying for it on cable is not 
> the only option. But I would be unhappy if Netflix was colluding with cable 
> to prevent its subscribers for streaming content included in the Netflix 
> monthly fee so that cablers can then charge for it separately.
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[TV orNotTV] Netflix in Bed with Cable?

[PGage]

I noticed a month ago or so that 24, which has been streaming on Netflix
for many years, rotated off. In it self not remarkable, one of the facts of
Netflix life is dealing with such things. But it was a bit odd, given that
the new 24 Miniseries is starting soon, and a big part of Netflix' business
model seems to be catch-up or refresher binge viewing in advance of a new
season.

Then I noticed that all seasons of 24 are now available on Comcast - but
only for purchase (I guess they are allowing free viewing of the first
episodes of each season). Was this a coincidence? Did Netflix's 24 contract
happen to expire in March, and Comcast jumped on the opportunity to sell it
to customers whose interest might be peeked by the new show? Or, did
Netflix surrender its right to stream 24, in exchange for either cash or
consideration from Comcast and maybe other cablers? This suspicion is
stoked by another observation that House of Cards is now available for
viewing on some cable systems.

24 is still streaming for on Amazon Prime, so paying for it on cable is not
the only option. But I would be unhappy if Netflix was colluding with cable
to prevent its subscribers for streaming content included in the Netflix
monthly fee so that cablers can then charge for it separately.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Craigyferg calls it quits

[Diner]

On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 5:04:07 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
>
> D'accord.
>
> On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:34:03 AM UTC-7, Tom Wolper wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
>>
>>> By the way, what the hell ever happened to Craig Kilborn?
>>>
>>
>> Exactly what was supposed to happen to him. 
>>
>


"Kilborn has the dubious distinction of hosting two shows which were turned 
into creative successes after he left them." - Eric Deggans, NPR

 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Cedric to quit "Millionaire"

[Tom Wolper]

On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:03 PM, PGage  wrote:

>
> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:03 PM,  wrote:
>
>> I hope I wasn't the only person who asked themselves "Who Wants to be a
>> Millionaire is still running?  And Cedric the Entertainer is hosting
>> it?!?!?"
>>
>
> I am still asking myself that question. If that is not what this is
> referencing, what is it about?
>

I know that my mother, who is retired, watched every day when Meredith
Vieira hosted and gave up when Cedric took over. So I can tell her she
might want to start watching again in the fall.

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[TV orNotTV] VH1 to Do Live Internet Marathon Talent Comp

[Mark Jeffries]

"Make a Band Famous" will start on June 11 at 8 p.m. ET at vh1.com and will 
involve 24 bands in a continuous 24-hour competition involving various 
challenges (like learning a cover song in an hour or doing a toy instrument 
version of an oldie but goodie), the winner to receive a contract with 
Republic Records, a gig at Brooklyn's Northside Festival and a series of 
"You Oughta Know" spots (and airplay on the channel's 6 a.m. vidclip 
blocks):

http://www.billboard.com/VH1-Republic-Records-Make-A-Band-Famous-You-Oughta-Know?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=biz_breakingnews&utm_campaign=Breaking%20News

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[TV orNotTV] "Pawn Stars" gang to do quiz show

[Bob Jersey]

Rick, Corey and Chumlee compete against visiting contestants for cash and 
prizes from a studio in their native Vegas.

Entertainment 
Weekly(link)

The first commenter lamented the dearth of history shows on History.

Nobody, strangely, wondered about why The Old Man wasn't a part of the new 
show.

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[TV orNotTV] AOL deal with Nielsen

[Bob Jersey]

For TV-like ratings for online shows.

Buried in this 
TheWrap(link)
 piece about their "upfront", featuring new series from (separately) 
James Franco and Ellen DeGeneres, among others.

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[TV orNotTV] Guests revealed for WHCA dinner

[Bob Jersey]

It's the 100th renewal of the President's "nerd prom", one of the shows 
that made C-SPAN famous, with Joel McHale as emcee, and to mark the anny 
History (the TV network) will bring a commemorative film of the group's 
history.  The *New York Times* is boycotting.

TheWrap(link)

Some of the typefaces on their site look disgusting on our screen here... 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Cedric to quit "Millionaire"

[PGage]

On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:03 PM,  wrote:

> I hope I wasn't the only person who asked themselves "Who Wants to be a
> Millionaire is still running?  And Cedric the Entertainer is hosting
> it?!?!?"
>

I am still asking myself that question. If that is not what this is
referencing, what is it about?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Cedric to quit "Millionaire"

[Bob Jersey]

Doug Fields, to moi:
>
>
> I hope I wasn't the only person who asked themselves "Who Wants to be a 
> Millionaire is still running?  And Cedric the Entertainer is hosting 
> it?!?!?"
>

I did a few weeks ago at a health-care provider's office.  F_cking thing 
had wide enough of a screen for HD, but was carrying WPVI in SD.

B


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RE: [TV orNotTV] Cedric to quit "Millionaire"

[doug]

I hope I wasn't the only person who asked themselves "Who Wants to be a Millionaire is still running?  And Cedric the Entertainer is hosting it?!?!?"Doug FieldsTampa, FL


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Subject: [TV orNotTV] Cedric to quit "Millionaire"
From: Bob Jersey 
Date: Thu, May 01, 2014 2:42 pm
To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com

His successor might be Brooklyn Nine-Nine's Terry Crews, per Nellie (link).B 





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[TV orNotTV] Michael McKean to "Saul"

[Bob Jersey]

The film and TV veteran, as "a brilliant attorney who is now restricted by 
an unusual affliction", joins Bob Odenkirk and Jonathan Banks in the AMC 
project, per 
Nellie.
 
(link)

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[TV orNotTV] Report: at&t in talks to acquire DirecTV

[Bob Jersey]

The result of the satcaster combining with the telco's U-verse would create 
a firm only a few million customers short of the combined Comcast/TWC, per an 
already-paywalled WSJ 
piece.

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[TV orNotTV] Boston-bombing event series in works

[Bob Jersey]

Before the latest *24* even begins, Fox will begin working on a telly 
adaptation of two *Globe* writers' bestselling chronicle of the tragedy, 
with Rod Lurie writing, directing and exec'ing.

THR Live 
Feed(link)

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RE: [TV orNotTV] HBO to revive Project Greenlight

[Jason Carpio]

Good. We have a dearth of coming of age stories in movies

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Subject: [TV orNotTV] HBO to revive Project Greenlight

The Damon/Affleck-produced developing-a-new-director series, which aired twice 
on the cabler in the early '00s and later on Bravo, is coming back largely in 
response to a similar product announced by Starz.

Variety (link)

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[TV orNotTV] Cedric to quit "Millionaire"

[Bob Jersey]

His successor might be *Brooklyn Nine-Nine*'s Terry Crews, per 
Nellie(link).

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[TV orNotTV] HBO to revive Project Greenlight

[Bob Jersey]

The Damon/Affleck-produced developing-a-new-director series, which aired 
twice on the cabler in the early '00s and later on Bravo, is coming back 
largely in response to a similar product announced by Starz.

Variety(link)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Cosmos 8 vs Babylon 5

[Tom Wolper]

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:

> This week's episode had two focuses, the first being to teach those of us
> with a penis that women have brains. Seriously, the point couldn't have
> been hammered into us any more directly unless the words "women have
> brains" had been written on a brick which was then smashed into the
> collective skull of man.
>
> The second point concerned the fate of the stars, including our own sun,
> which will one day lose its proverbial spark. On this point, Tyson casually
> expressed his hope that mankind will have found a new home before that
> happens, then he moved on to other things. And that pissed me off.
>
> The biggest difference between the Sagan and Tyson versions of this series
> is not the science itself, but the tone in which it is presented. The 2014
> Cosmos is, frankly, an angrier Cosmos. And the points made, right or wrong,
> are made with caveman-like oversimplicity.
>
> Religion bad.
>
> Woman good.
>
> Corporations bad.
>
> Here, in the 8th installment, the show had a chance to insert a powerful
> justification for the importance of space travel, but instead the focus was
> on the animation of exploding stars. Assuming the series exists to try make
> the wonder of the universe something for people to aspire to again, it was
> a waste for them not to include an impassioned (oversimplistic) plea for
> manned space exploration.
>

I thought this episode was more coherent than some previous episodes. I
think that is because it was all about astrophysics and Tyson is more at
home with that subject and you can feel his passion as he explains what we
are seeing.

The story of the Harvard Computers is an important one because the work
they were tasked with doing was close to secretarial work and nobody
expected them to make groundbreaking discoveries. Even though it was after
Ada Lovelace and Marie Curie, science was still considered a male pursuit.
I think it was important for this series to give credit to Annie Jump
Cannon, Henrietta Swan Leavitt, and Cecilia Payne.

The second part of the episode was the best use of special effects I have
seen in the series. The animation had to show processes that take thousands
to millions of years to carry out and keep it on a level that is
understandable to the viewer.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] KNBC's scaled down Universal newsroom named after Brokaw

[chialex]

 Mark Jeffries  wrote: 
> Which radio stations are doing less than they used to, at least those
> stations in markets where Nielsen uses the Personal People Meter instead of
> diaries.  The commercial breaks that seemed to come around at :20 and :50
> in the hour now seem to come at around :12 and :42.  That doesn't mean that
> there are still stations where the legal ID is whispered or covered over by
> sound to emphasize the branding name (you know, Z100, KISS FM, LIte 97, The
> Fox, Jack FM, etc.).

True. Our local Cumulus Radio outlet (Q98) has only remedied that recently. 
Used to be about 10 of the hour before they gave legal ID. Now (at least during 
the weekdays) they've added the calls to a standard radio sounder that plays at 
or near the top of the hour). It's easy if you have two seconds before the city 
of licensure. 

Of course there's always the Bob radio station on 96.5 that has the cutest IDs.

~D

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Kent Shocknek of Tupelo, Mississippi

[PGage]

I'm glad you wrote this. In addition to Kevin I received 3 or 4 other links
to this video, and nobody has yet explained to me the basis for the
implication that the guy is overreacting. He actually seems to be very
calm, and he appears to be trying to get other people out first, and then
himself.

If we could predict earthquakes with even a 50% accuracy, and the
indication was that a big one was about to hit right where the TV studio
was, I don't think we would mind if the anchors went for their desk or
other appropriate shelters.



On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Joe Hass  wrote:

> I wholeheartedly disagree with the comparison. Shocknek was a hysterical
> overreaction. Lauban's seeing a radar that indicates quite clearly they're
> about to be in a heap of trouble, and reacts appropriately. He's a CBM, not
> a weather reader.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Kevin M. wrote:
>
>> Matt Laubhan rushes to join the rest of the newsteam in the basement as a
>> tornado touches down
>>
>> http://youtu.be/ABqzsfVp6s4
>>
>> and for those who haven't seen Shocknek dive for cover during an
>> earthquake
>>
>> http://youtu.be/ZWAlkZVyTOg
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Kent Shocknek of Tupelo, Mississippi

[Joe Hass]

I wholeheartedly disagree with the comparison. Shocknek was a hysterical
overreaction. Lauban's seeing a radar that indicates quite clearly they're
about to be in a heap of trouble, and reacts appropriately. He's a CBM, not
a weather reader.


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:

> Matt Laubhan rushes to join the rest of the newsteam in the basement as a
> tornado touches down
>
> http://youtu.be/ABqzsfVp6s4
>
> and for those who haven't seen Shocknek dive for cover during an earthquake
>
> http://youtu.be/ZWAlkZVyTOg
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] KNBC's scaled down Universal newsroom named after Brokaw

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Which radio stations are doing less than they used to, at least those
stations in markets where Nielsen uses the Personal People Meter instead of
diaries.  The commercial breaks that seemed to come around at :20 and :50
in the hour now seem to come at around :12 and :42.  That doesn't mean that
there are still stations where the legal ID is whispered or covered over by
sound to emphasize the branding name (you know, Z100, KISS FM, LIte 97, The
Fox, Jack FM, etc.).

Mark Jeffries
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On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

> On May 1, 2014, at 6:33 AM, K.M. Richards  wrote:
>
> > I'm not 100% certain of this, but I think television stations were
> always allowed to use the suffix -TV even if it wasn't officially part of
> their assigned call.  If so, I suspect the FCC would tell you they can use
> -DT on the same basis.
>
> If it wasn't clear, I was being facetious about complaining to the FCC
> about the use of "KTLA-DT."
>
> Really, as anyone who's heard a radio station bury their legal ID between
> two commercials at :52 can tell you, the FCC doesn't necessarily care all
> that much about this.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] KNBC's scaled down Universal newsroom named after Brokaw

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On May 1, 2014, at 6:33 AM, K.M. Richards  wrote:

> I'm not 100% certain of this, but I think television stations were always 
> allowed to use the suffix -TV even if it wasn't officially part of their 
> assigned call.  If so, I suspect the FCC would tell you they can use -DT on 
> the same basis.

If it wasn't clear, I was being facetious about complaining to the FCC about 
the use of "KTLA-DT."

Really, as anyone who's heard a radio station bury their legal ID between two 
commercials at :52 can tell you, the FCC doesn't necessarily care all that much 
about this.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: KNBC's scaled down Universal newsroom named after Brokaw

[K.M. Richards]

I'm not 100% certain of this, but I think television stations were always 
allowed to use the suffix -TV even if it wasn't officially part of their 
assigned call.  If so, I suspect the FCC would tell you they can use -DT on 
the same basis.

Unfortunately, I don't have time at the moment to research this.

On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:38:20 AM UTC-7, Jim Ellwanger wrote:
>
> Now I recall that I recently saw an on-screen station ID graphic on KTLA 
> that said "KTLA-DT," but they're just "KTLA" in the database. I should 
> file an FCC complaint. 
>
>
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