Re: [TV orNotTV] Matt Rife and his Netflix special

[Jason Carpio]

That initial joke he told was a “feeling out the crowd” joke. He even said it 
was after he told it.

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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 7:19:25 PM
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Subject: [TV orNotTV] Matt Rife and his Netflix special


Matt Rife’s Netflix comedy special is being vilified for misogyny. I didn’t 
care much until Marc Maron’s sounded off on it during a discussion with Kliph 
Nesteroff. The Daily Beast covered it in a story: Marc Maron Sounds Off on ‘New 
It Boy of Shitty Comedy’ Matt Rife

https://www.thedailybeast.com/marc-maron-sounds-off-on-new-it-boy-of-shitty-comedy-matt-rife

That got my attention. The article said it’s one of the most-watched comedy 
specials on Netflix.

I decided a week or so ago to watch it and report about it to the group. I 
watched the first 15 minutes or so. And now, a week later, I decided I’m not 
going to finish it. Not because it’s offensive. Because it’s not funny.

Rife got a following through social media. Maybe those bits are funny. I 
haven’t watched them. His Netflix special is just clunker after clunker, at the 
“pull my finger” level. You could take just about any other comedian who has a 
Netflix special and film them doing crowd work and it would be funnier.

Spoiler alert: Here’s the joke at the beginning of his special that caused the 
most outrage. A restaurant hostess is serving him. She has a black eye. Rife 
said of course she has to be hostess, because if she could cook she wouldn’t 
have the black eye.

It’s an old joke. Rife is telling a street joke in his Netflix special. 
Whatever skills polished comedians have in telling jokes, Rife doesn’t have 
them. I’ve written earlier about Dave Chapelle telling jokes that border on 
being offensive or cross the line. But Chapelle has talent, improving the joke 
with his delivery and his energy. Rife is flapping around on stage like a carp 
out of water.

A few jokes later, he’s talking about women and astrology. I don’t remember the 
exact joke, but he says in talking to a woman and the difference between 
Jupiter and her is that Jupiter has a ring and she doesn’t. Jupiter? A ring? 
You mean Saturn? Jupiter actually does have a ring, but it takes sophisticated 
equipment to see it. Saturn is the planet best known for its ring. Anyone with 
a backyard telescope can see it.

The Netflix special has strong audience laughter to his jokes. I wonder how 
much of this has been sweetened. Then again, he was a hit on social media. 
Maybe there are crowds that dig this kind of humor and Netflix was right to 
give him a platform, at least from a business perspective.

There’s another comedian who was canceled because of his jokes. Shane Gillis 
was picked to join the cast of “Saturday Night Live.” He got unpicked after his 
jokes on a podcast were deemed racist and homophobic. He’s making something of 
a comeback, I guess. He has a special on YouTube, which I haven’t watched. But 
I’ve seen clips on his stuff on TikTok and he seems funny. Unlike Rife, he 
knows how to tell a joke.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: HGTV buys Brady Bunch house

[Jason Carpio]

So how was the show itself?

Sent from Gmail


From: 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:43:37 AM
To: TVorNotTV 
Subject: [TV orNotTV] Re: HGTV buys Brady Bunch house

The program's début Monday delivered ratings second only to ESPN's NFL game 
that night... and it topped the previous high for any HGTV show, the "Fixer 
Upper" finale from April '18...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/a-very-brady-renovation-scores-huge-ratings-hgtv-1238756
 (link)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Emmy noms thread

[Jason Carpio]

The least surprising to me is the lack of CBS/NBC nominations in major
categories.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Bob Jersey <bob.in.jer...@juno.com> wrote:

>
> Variety
> <http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/2016-emmy-nominations-drama-comedy-series-game-of-thrones-1201813547/>'s
> (link) article only has highlights... not seeing any surprises (yet).
>
> B
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Miley Cyrus bashed on Jimmy Fallon Facebook page

[Jason Carpio]

They should use real name or facebook login for comments

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From: "Steve Timko" 
Sent: ‎10/‎4/‎2015 3:28 PM
To: "TV or Not TV" 
Subject: [TV orNotTV] Miley Cyrus bashed on Jimmy Fallon Facebook page

Jimmy Fallon posted a link on his Facebook page to a sketch he did
with Miley Cyrus where they changed emotions based on the emotion
described on the screen.

It was notable because every comment I saw -- and I scrolled through
several hundred -- was an attack on Cyrus. Not one favorable thing. I
went to post a link to it for discussion here but the link has been
removed.
I've only seen the opening, Miley Cyrus' sketch and the Hillary
Clinton bit but I thought overall it was a solid start.

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[TV orNotTV] I wonder how much FOX is asking AT

[Jason Carpio]

http://fox4kc.com/keep-wdaf-on-att-uverse/

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RE: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Blindspot

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I'm of the opinion that serialized shows should be 13 eps, instead of 22. 
Quality over quantity. But syndication prevents that from occurring for these 
network shows. 


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Decent pilot but not sure how well the concept will hold up over 22 episodes


https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/pilot/id1031739500?i=1039994134
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[TV orNotTV] Some stats for the upcoming fall TV season

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http://www.ew.com/article/2015/09/08/fall-tv-hits-flops

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Re: [TV orNotTV] DVR-Worthy Fall 2015 TV?

[Jason Carpio]

Definite Yes
Supergirl
Quantico
The Muppets
Heroes Reborn

Probably
Minority Report
Limitless
Life in Pieces

Although some of these shows won't be on my DVR since I also use Hulu Plus.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The Muppets... nothing else immediately interests me... we will see what
> the free iTunes previews do to make me interested
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 9:23 AM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Each year I find I am paying even less attention than they year before to
>> the new shows, and then I need to plan out my DVR strategy and resolve
>> conflicts. I looked at a few "Best of" lists and then TV Guide's
>> Comprehensive list (maybe too comprehensive, as some of those seem to
>> already have been shelved). I probably left off some CW shows, and may be
>> missing others.
>>
>> I need help: I will sample the "Definite" shows no matter what anyone
>> here says, and unless I see overwhelming advice, nothing will probably get
>> me to sample the "Definitely Not" ones. But I am open to feedback on the
>> two intermediate categories. Especially interested in any shows that people
>> think I am underestimating and might be worth moving up.
>>
>>
>> *Definite:*
>> The Man in the High Castle (Amazon)
>> Minority Report (Wow - TWO Phillip K Dick shows this year? I am in!)
>> Heroes Reborn
>>
>> *Probably Yes:*
>> The Bastard Executioner
>> Limitless
>> The Muppets
>> Blindspot
>> Angel From Hell (mostly because I like Jane Lynch but found Glee
>> unwatchable)
>> Best Time Ever with Neil Patrick Harris
>> Dr. Ken (only because someone in my family has a backdoor connection to
>> Jeong)
>> The Player (Hard for me to resist any show set in Vegas)
>> Telenovela
>> Wicked City (I have been hoping for an Anthology like "Police Story" to
>> come back, so will check this out. Would really like the same core cast
>> each week)
>> You, Me and the End of the World (this is a mid-season entry, but wait,
>> Rob Lowe is in two sitcoms this year?)
>>
>> *Probably No:*
>> Quantico
>> Supergirl
>> Life In Pieces
>> The Family
>> The Frankenstein Code
>> Game of Silence
>> People Are Talking
>> The Real O'Neals
>> Rosewood
>> Rush Hour
>> ​Shades of Blue
>> Superstore
>>
>> *Definitely No*
>> "Scream Queens"
>> Crazy Ex-Girlfriend"
>> The Grinder
>> The Catch
>> ​Chicago Med
>> Code Black
>> Containment
>> Crowded
>> The Grinder
>> The Guide to Surviving Life
>> Heartbreaker
>> Little Big Shots
>> Lucifer
>> Of Kings and Prophets
>> Oil
>> Uncle Buck
>> You the Jury
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Re: [TV orNotTV] DVR-Worthy Fall 2015 TV?

[Jason Carpio]

I saw the preview show on CBS for all their new shows. Code Black wants to
be ER. I was kind of hoping for St Elsewhere or Chicago Hope.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Doug Fields <d...@flids.net> wrote:

> I’m going to give “Code Black” a  try for no other reason than Marcia Gay
> Harden’s name in the credits.  Likewise “Quantico,” because I like the
> storyline of a South Asian character fighting terrorism from the American
> side, and all the stereotyping that she’ll have to fight through to pull
> that off.  ”going to give it a try,” while not necessarily hold out much
> hope for it.
>
>
>
> On the flip side, I don’t think you could actually pay me to watch the new
> Ken Jeong show, based on the preview commercials I’ve seen.
>
>
>
> Other than those three examples, you and I have remarkably similar tastes
> in  television entertainment.  (*huge* Philip K. Dick fan here)
>
>
>
> Doug Fields
>
> Tampa, FL
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *PGage
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 8, 2015 12:23 PM
> *To:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [TV orNotTV] DVR-Worthy Fall 2015 TV?
>
>
>
> Each year I find I am paying even less attention than they year before to
> the new shows, and then I need to plan out my DVR strategy and resolve
> conflicts. I looked at a few "Best of" lists and then TV Guide's
> Comprehensive list (maybe too comprehensive, as some of those seem to
> already have been shelved). I probably left off some CW shows, and may be
> missing others.
>
> I need help: I will sample the "Definite" shows no matter what anyone here
> says, and unless I see overwhelming advice, nothing will probably get me to
> sample the "Definitely Not" ones. But I am open to feedback on the two
> intermediate categories. Especially interested in any shows that people
> think I am underestimating and might be worth moving up.
>
>
> *Definite:*
> The Man in the High Castle (Amazon)
> Minority Report (Wow - TWO Phillip K Dick shows this year? I am in!)
> Heroes Reborn
>
> *Probably Yes:*
> The Bastard Executioner
> Limitless
> The Muppets
> Blindspot
> Angel From Hell (mostly because I like Jane Lynch but found Glee
> unwatchable)
> Best Time Ever with Neil Patrick Harris
> Dr. Ken (only because someone in my family has a backdoor connection to
> Jeong)
>
> The Player (Hard for me to resist any show set in Vegas)
>
> Telenovela
> Wicked City (I have been hoping for an Anthology like "Police Story" to
> come back, so will check this out. Would really like the same core cast
> each week)
>
> You, Me and the End of the World (this is a mid-season entry, but wait,
> Rob Lowe is in two sitcoms this year?)
>
>
> *Probably No:*
> Quantico
> Supergirl
> Life In Pieces
> The Family
> The Frankenstein Code
> Game of Silence
> People Are Talking
> The Real O'Neals
> Rosewood
> Rush Hour
> ​Shades of Blue
> Superstore
>
> *Definitely No*
> "Scream Queens"
>
> Crazy Ex-Girlfriend"
> The Grinder
> The Catch
> ​Chicago Med
> Code Black
> Containment
> Crowded
> The Grinder
> The Guide to Surviving Life
> Heartbreaker
> Little Big Shots
> Lucifer
> Of Kings and Prophets
> Oil
> Uncle Buck
> You the Jury
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Dish Goes After The Cord Cutters

[Jason Carpio]

I'll let you know how it is when I get to try it out on the xbox one. I
think it makes its debut on there.

Name is confusing though. I wonder if done on purpose.

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sometime this year, for $20/month with SlingTV (no relationship in theory
 to Slingbox), you get ESPN(!), ESPN2(!!), CNN, TBS, TNT, Cartoon Network,
 Adult Swim, Travel Channel, Food Network, ABC Family, HGTV, Disney Channel
 and Maker. Works with pretty much any web box except AppleTV*, or just use
 a Chromecast.

 Add HBO a la carte, and things are about to get *really* interesting
 around here.

 http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/05/sling-tv-announced/

 * If you'd have offered me 1-10 odds the day they announced the iPhone
 that I would swear off every non-computer Apple product within seven years,
 I'd have told you to put me down for $1,000 and openly bragged about
 spending your $9,000.

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RE: [TV orNotTV] So long, Stuart Scott

[Jason Carpio]

No sarcasm here. But Scott has been described as a pioneer. What was he a 
pioneer of in his field?

-Original Message-
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Sent: ‎1/‎4/‎2015 2:44 PM
To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com tvornottv@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] So long, Stuart Scott

Valvano worked for ESPN for less than three years before he died. He
gave a great ESPY Awards speech and was a memorable announcer, but I
really think you're going out of your way to blow up the achievements
of Jimmy V and to downplay those of Stu Scott. Scott was an ESPN guy
for over 20 years. He was the main anchor of Sportscenter with Rich
Eisen, probably the second best pairing on the flagship of the
Worldwide Leader ever after Patrick/Olbermann.

I don't begrudge his friends from missing him or eulogizing him or for
ESPN for marking his importance in its history,


On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here, in a simple stat, is how ESPN has changed (I'd argue for the worst),
 in the past 19-plus years.

 I have the SportsCenter Big Show from the day Jim Valvano died of cancer.
 From the opening of the segment to the fade to black at the end of the act
 was 7:29. Here was a man who was not just a key member of ESPN, but had a
 decent history as a basketball coach (won a national championship at NC
 State).

 ESPN has released their tribute to Stewart Scott: a man who did nothing but
 narrate sport highlights and host gameday programming. He once, on a New
 Year's Eve broadcast, begged viewers to not boo pro athletes: as much
 sucking up to the athletes he covered as anything. He, effectively, is
 ephemera in sports broadcasting. That tribute lasted 15 minutes.

 I look forward to the four-minute SC segment if Vin Scully dies.

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RE: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Ascension

[Jason Carpio]

Watching the last part tonight

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Subject: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Ascension

Snowpiercer in Space


https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/part-1/id941978240?i=943663413



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RE: [TV orNotTV] Help For DVR Decisions on New Shows

[Jason Carpio]

My suggestion is to invest in a Hulu+ subscription.

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Subject: [TV orNotTV] Help For DVR Decisions on New Shows

I find I am focusing in on the new Fall shows later and later - with only 1 or 
2 exceptions, I really had no awareness of most of these. I found a quick guide 
on the WaPo that listed 25 new shows (well, 26, but I am leaving off 
Transparent which I will be watching, but is streamed on Amazon). Based on 
those descriptions and recommendations, and my own sometimes perverse 
predilections, I have assigned them to 4 categories: Definitely record, 
Trial record (which also means they will likely loose any recording face-off 
decisions with higher ranked shows; the notation sucker here means I gather 
from the critics this is probably a dog, but since I am a sucker for this kind 
of show I will probably try to watch it to decide for myself. Several to many 
of these will probably either not survive face-off decisions, or never get 
watched by me as they build up on my DVR and I hear bad word of mouth); 
Probably Not (open to upgrading if I get strong recommendations from others) 
and No (will not record even if others say it is great - may watch in a few 
years if proven wrong). This list is supposed to include all new dramas and 
sitcoms, but not reality shows or specials.


I am soliciting any quick hits on any of these, especially those with 
recommendations to move up or down programs I have placed in the middle two 
categories:


Yes
1. Madam Secretary 
2. Gotham 


Trial
1. Survivor's Remorse
2. Jane The Virgin 
3. Forever (still grieving premature loss of “Amsterdam”)
4. Gracepoint (I never saw Broadchurch, so I might try this first)
5. NCIS: New Orleans (sucker)
6. State of Affairs (sucker)
7. Scorpion (sucker)
8. Stalker (sucker)
9. Selfie (This would be “No, but Karen Gilian, so…)


Probably Not

1. Blackish 
2. Cristela 
3. Mulaney 

4. The Affair 
5. The Flash 
6. The Mysteries of Laura 


No
1. How To Get Away With Murder 
2. Marry Me 
3. Bad Judge 
4. Manhattan Love Story 
5. A to Z 
6. Red Band Society 
7. The McCarthys 
8. Constantine


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RE: [TV orNotTV] Help For DVR Decisions on New Shows

[Jason Carpio]

At the very least, it'll help with DVR conflicts and hdd space. 

However with Gotham, give it 4 episodes. Before keeping it in the yes column.

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On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Jason Carpio jcar...@gmail.com wrote:

My suggestion is to invest in a Hulu+ subscription.


I actually have one of those (at least for now). How do you think this will 
help me? 
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Re: Fallon has the lowest percentage of guest talk

[Jason Carpio]

In this day and age, that is what needs to be done.  I don't watch the tonight 
show as much, but I do subscribe to the YouTube channel. 

The traditional format doesn't work right now.

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Subject: [TV orNotTV] Re: Fallon has the lowest percentage of guest talk

Is this a surprise to anyone? Fallon doesn't host a talk show. He hosts an hour 
of things that the producers hope will go viral.


--Dave Sikula

On Thursday, July 10, 2014 1:52:12 PM UTC-7, David Bruggeman wrote:
This is according to a study by Steven Wizenburg, a communications professor.  
The THR piece also covers the percentages for the other hour-long late night 
programs.  Most of them are several percentage points higher than Fallon with 
the conversation.



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/study-jimmy-fallon-spends-time-717565


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: The Last Ship

[Jason Carpio]

the pilot at least made me give it a 4 episode look. Although the 2nd
episode could change that line of thinking.


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:

 There's been an... um... outbreak of post-apocalyptic TV show concepts
 lately, more than a few of them featuring young, smart, idealistic CDC
 doctors racing to find a cure. Despite the fact we know co-star Adam
 Baldwin to be a jackass in real life, this series is the best of its
 breed... at least the pilot episode made me want to keep watching.

 Free on iTunes


 https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/last-ship-phase-six-falling/id879173249?i=889180469

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RE: [TV orNotTV] HBO to revive Project Greenlight

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Good. We have a dearth of coming of age stories in movies

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Subject: [TV orNotTV] HBO to revive Project Greenlight

The Damon/Affleck-produced developing-a-new-director series, which aired twice 
on the cabler in the early '00s and later on Bravo, is coming back largely in 
response to a similar product announced by Starz.

Variety (link)

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RE: [TV orNotTV] Could he be any more Odd?

[Jason Carpio]

Matt LeBlanc needs a job, right?

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Subject: [TV orNotTV] Could he be any more Odd?

Matthew Perry would play Oscar, as CBS looks to re-rack “The Odd Couple.” (No 
Felix, as yet.)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2014/02/25/cbs-orders-odd-couple-pilot-starring-matthew-perry/5817169/
 
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Give me a reason to continue with HULU Plus

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I use Hulu as a replacement for the DVR mostly

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I've watched just about everything I want to watch on HULU Plus. What I mostly 
watch there now are the regular HULU shows.


I've watched Life on Mars. Luther. None of the original HULU shows grab me.
Give me something to watch, or I'll cancel it.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: How I Met Your... Father??

[Jason Carpio]

A season and half ago is being nice. I'm thinking at least 4 years ago.


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote:

 For a show that completely ran out of creative gas a season and a half
 ago, they're certainly doing all they can to squeeze out whatever vapors
 they can.

 --Dave Sikula



 On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:52:42 AM UTC-8, Bob Jersey wrote:


 How I Met Your Dad gets greenlighted, Nellie sez, though the plan to
 intro the cast in the HIMYM finale appears to be on hold...

 http://www.deadline.com/2013/11/how-i-met-your-mother-spinoff-cbs-pilot/

 B


 On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:52:42 AM UTC-8, Bob Jersey wrote:


 How I Met Your Dad gets greenlighted, Nellie sez, though the plan to
 intro the cast in the HIMYM finale appears to be on hold...

 http://www.deadline.com/2013/11/how-i-met-your-mother-spinoff-cbs-pilot/

 B

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RE: [TV orNotTV] Suits

[Jason Carpio]

Actually there are 3 seasons of suits on prime instant

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I have a friend who has been bugging me to get into this show for more than a 
year. Last winter I mistook it for White Collar and started watching that, and 
told him that while it was likable enough it did not seem to justify his 
enthusiasm. He gave me a disgusted response and told me Suits was a completely 
different, and much better show.


But where are you binging on it? It does not seem to be streaming on netflix, 
and only the 5 most recent are available on hulu. Amazon (and I assume iTunes) 
has seasons available, but not for free on Prime. Do you think it is worth 
$20.00/season? Or is it worth risking the morally ambiguous and electronically 
unsafe world of shared tv programs on the web?




On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Doug Eastick east...@mcd.on.ca wrote:

a few weeks ago my 20-yr old son needed  a new show to start binging on.  he 
chose Suits.  So I did too.   While he may be 2 seasons into it, I am about 4 
eps into Season 1. I like it.

anyone else watched it?


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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'S.H.I.E.L.D.' Back Nined Despite Falling Numbers

[Jason Carpio]

The DVR +2 numbers actually have helped the ratings to make them OK rather
than disappointing. The quality needs to improve though.


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:59 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have tried twice and still not been able to get past the first 20
 minutes of the first episode of this show, I think 3 eps are backlogged in
 my archives now.

 I wonder how the bean counters at Disney have figured the cost/benefit of
 keeping this show on all year vs extra tickets and merchandizing for the
 films. I guess they might already have an algorithm for that somewhere,
 since that must be at least part of the reason why Wonderful World of
 Disney was on so long.


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 It almost seems a corporate mandate from Unca Walt that ABC will hang in
 there with Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., despite the fact that its
 ratings have declined from its splashy premiere (and it hasn't beaten NCIS
 Original yet, although ABC was probably not expecting that)--perhaps
 they're hoping that things will change once The Voice is starting at 9
 instead of 8 (although I don't think this is one of those cases of two
 shows with a similar audience):

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Re: [TV orNotTV] TWC Can't Stop CBS

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Well I'm glad the nielsen families were able to find their digital antennas
to pick up free TV.


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 Despite losing their cable standing in the nation's two biggest markets,
 still number one in the Nielsens:


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Twitterverse Goes Crazy Over 'Sharknado'

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My Twitter/Sharknado experience started with Wil Wheaton. Then it blew up
from there for me.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] HBO VOD Brings Back 'Sopranos'

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it's better if you have HBOGo


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 To the memory of James Gandolfini, season 1 is up and available to HBO
 subscribers who have VOD through the end of the month, with season 2 in
 August, 3 in September and so on:


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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Boy Meets World' Spinoff On at DIS

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Before anyone chimes in. It's actually Fred's brother Ben.


On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Girl Meets World, in which Fred Savage and Danielle Fishel return as
 Cory and Topanga as parents of their own teenaged girl growing up (played
 by Rowan Blanchard of Spy Kids 4), had already gotten a lot of hype as a
 pilot, but Disney Channel is going through with the series joining its long
 line of multicam sitcoms, with production starting this summer for airing
 next year:


 http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/disney-channel-orders-girl-meets-world-series-97681

 Michael Jacobs, the show's original creator, will have a showrunner
 position with the series, which is a little bit of a surprise and a
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: P/T confusion at CBS

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They do have CBS Sports.


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 CBS was frustrating as hell last night.  When I turned over at 7pm,
 expecting to see SOME delay due to golf and looking to see how late things
 would get pushed (since I didn't get an EyeAlert), I couldn't believe they
 stayed with the Masters - or, really, their 'cabin in the woods' postgame
 show - for almost a full hour into Primetime. CBS really needs a cable
 outlet so they can shunt nonsense like that over and run primetime as
 scheduled.

 On Sunday, April 14, 2013 11:02:07 PM UTC-4, Tom Wolper wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Bob in Jersey bob.in...@juno.comwrote:

 [Emily] Never mind. [/Emily]

 Everything starting x:56 East/Central. -- BOB


 They NEVER bag 60 Minutes.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Warners quietly becomes a Netflix/Amazon competitor

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If they don't expand past the computer and Roku, I don't see this as
anything else but a failure for them.


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Joe Coughlin inturnaro...@gmail.comwrote:

 They're 95 today actually, not 90. They were founded in 1918.

 On 4/4/13, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote:
 
  Adam Bowie, to moi:
 
  Slightly off topic, but I'm surprised that Warners don't seem to making
  more of the fact that today is their 90th birthday. You wouldn't know it
  from their website. Obviously they're waiting another 10 years for the
  bigger celebration.
 
  They made far bigger of their 75th, and the 50th (?) for Warner TV.
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Warners quietly becomes a Netflix/Amazon competitor

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But back to the point of the post. Is this something that anyone is
interested in watching?


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tvwrote:

 On Apr 4, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Adam Bowie wrote:

  Well they're celebrating their 90th!
 
  I saw this piece in the Telegraph here (
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/starsandstories/9969454/Warner-Brothers-ninety-years-of-grit-and-greatness.html-
  might be paywalled). But there's also a press release here:
 http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/corpcomm/portal/press_release.jsp?id=WBCelebrates90th_10.3.12

 The studio was founded in 1918, as Joe said...but the Warner Bros. company
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Move over Netflix... here comes Spotify TV?

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Honestly for me, it's also about the other thing the service provides.

Netflix and Redbox offer tangible discs (DVDs and Blurays), Amazon Prime
shipping is the real reason I have the service and Hulu offers current
season programming.

How strong will the Spotify offerings be at the beginning? Redbox's are
kind of weak.


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote:

 It'll be interesting to see how this goes. Lots of competitors keeps
 everyone on their toes, but the only real winners are the studios.

 And the trend at the moment seems to be exclusive deals. So if it's on
 Netflix, it's not on Amazon (or Lovefilm in the UK). That means keeping
 multiple subscriptions with multiple companies if you want to be able to
 watch anything. That said, I can't see how it's going to change.

 If you can't differentiate on price or technology, then you differentiate
 on your offering. And that means exclusive deals.



 Adam


 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.comwrote:

 That is the rumor. The streaming audio service that almost
 singlehandedly managed to undo decades of music licensing through
 ASCAP and BMI is planning to stream video. Intellectual property and
 copyright lawyers are salivating at the very prospect of this one.


 http://www.businessinsider.com/spotify-plans-to-take-on-netflix-and-hbo-with-streaming-video-service-2013-3


 I'm happy to see this. The more disruption in the video business, the
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Bill Carter says Tonight will move back to NY, with Fallon

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I think the real number in play here is the salary of Leno vs the ratings
he gets.


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 EW adds to the speculation by indicating going back to 90 minutes has been
 discussed.  Which hasn't been done since early Pat Sajak episodes.


 http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/03/20/nbc-prepping-jimmy-fallon-for-tonight-show-takeover/

 I still don't think the numbers support the concern that Kimmel will lock
 up the younger viewers.  Let's see what the trend is come the fall.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Star Wars 'toon not continuing under Disney

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I was disappointed with this announcement.  But I'm a bit calmer after
reading this article from IGN

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/12/star-wars-the-clone-wars-why-its-okay-that-its-ending


On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote:

 The *Clone Wars* series, which WFMZ was carrying here, will end, and some
 other side projects are not in great shape either...

 EWhttp://insidetv.ew.com/2013/03/11/star-wars-clone-wars-canceled-detours/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Hoo Boy: CBS Star Endorses Dish

[Jason Carpio]

The eye had it removed. I know people that do Dish's social media.


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 Updatinghttps://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/dish-accuses-cbs-demanding-kaley-cuoco-delete-tweet-79626,
 Dish boss Clayton slammed CBS for getting the tweet removed... the Eye
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Glee vs. Jonathan Coulton

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This wasn't about the money or publicity. I just think it was about the
lack of credit given for the arrangement.


On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Melissa P takingupspace...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well, that’s what should have happened.  He’ll make some money (for two
 charities) that he otherwise wouldn’t have made thanks to Glee stealing his
 arrangement.

 ** **

 BTW I disagree with Lynch’s math.  It was only one song on a series that
 has lots of songs, and Coulton was only the arranger, not the writer.  I
 doubt that many pennies changed hands.

 ** **

 Melissa

 Curious about the  email address?  Listen to the most beautiful song ever
 sung. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtB4UDMEkpUfeature=related

 ** **

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 Behalf Of *David Bruggeman
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 *To:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com

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 ** **

 JoCo has (re)released it on iTunes in an attempt to stick it to FOX (it
 was/still is available as a track from his 2005 album Thing A Week One).
  Proceeds for the next month to charity.

 ** **

 http://www.jonathancoulton.com/2013/01/26/baby-got-back-glee-style/

 ** **

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 My points:  Coulton is getting publicity for his work that he otherwise
 wouldn’t have gotten.  

  

 So free publicity is supposed to make up for the fact that, by the time
 you add up advertising during the episode, iTunes downloads, physical CDs,
 DVDs, and cast tours, Fox is probably going to gross more off of ripping
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Glee vs. Jonathan Coulton

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Ironically, all this free publicity he's getting wouldn't exist if FOX
would of just credited (like they should have) the arrangement in the first
place.


On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Melissa P takingupspace...@gmail.comwrote:

 Unethical?  Absolutely.

 But Coulton's getting far more publicity, i.e., benefit, than he would have
 gotten had he been credited.


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 Behalf Of Kevin M.
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 Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Glee vs. Jonathan Coulton

 On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Melissa P takingupspace...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  So what?  Maybe people like the Glee version better than the original.

 It isn't about likes or dislikes in this instance. It is about crediting an
 artist for his contribution. It is about the ethics of taking what doesn't
 belong to you, especially if you are a massive broadcasting corporation who
 has money to spend and doesn't need to steal from indie artists.

 This Forbes article sums it up nicely:


 http://www.forbes.com/sites/michelecatalano/2013/01/27/jonathan-coulton-vs-g
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Re: Glee vs. Jonathan Coulton

[Jason Carpio]

Quality of the material doesn't excuse what FOX did.

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So only good arrangements shouldn't be stolen? Weak sauce.

And let's put this song in the context in which it was written. In 2005,
Jonathan Coulton challenged himself to put out a song a week in a project
he called Thing-A-Week (go figure). Baby Got Back was just one of 4 or
5 covers over the 52 weeks. During this time, he came up with some of his
best songs like RE: Your Brains, Shop Vac, Code Monkey and You
Ruined Everything.

So yeah, it's an unfortunately remnant of white guys doing ironic rap
covers, but if his creativity is anything like mine, you sometimes have to
scribble the pen that's not writing a bit on a pad in order for the
creativity to flow. That was the challenge of Thing a Week.


On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Melissa P takingupspace...@gmail.comwrote:

 From the Wired piece:

 ** **

 “The most frustrating thing is the completely silent nature of their
 approach to this ‘exposure bonus’ for me. The thing I would wish for most
 is a frank and open and public discussion with them about what they have
 done, what they believe they have done and what their actual policy is on
 this kind of thing. And I don’t know if I’m going to get that,” said
 Coulton.

 ** **

 Well, isn’t that what’s now happening?

 ** **

 Maybe I’d have more sympathy for Mr. Coulton if his arrangement didn’t
 suck.  But it does. 

 ** **

 I’ve said this before about other musical re-arrangements that make no
 sense:  Just because you can do it doesn’t mean you should. 

 ** **

 ** **

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 Per WIRED, Coulton does not appear to be the first to have this happen,
 just the first that more than a few people know about.

 ** **

 http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/01/jonathan-coulton-glee-song/

 ** **

 David

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 *Subject:* [TV orNotTV] Re: Glee vs. Jonathan Coulton

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 JoCo has said in interviews that he probably doesn't have a legal leg to
 stand on re: copyright because of license he had to take to cover the song,
 but if it can be proven* that *Glee* lifted the audio wholesale and just
 removed the original vocal, then Coulton may be in for a big payday.

 ** **

 *It may already have been proven - a number of Coulton's fans have
 performed analyses on both tracks and found the waveforms - especially on
 the portion featuring the expletive-covering duck quack, to be nearly
 identical.

 On Friday, January 25, 2013 4:46:48 PM UTC-5, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

 It is official. Glee took Coulton's arrangement and aired it, and is
 now selling it on iTunes.

 Coulton will be able to retire young.

 https://itunes.apple.com/us/ album/baby-got-back-glee-cast-
 version/id592420108?i= 
 592420188ign-mpt=uo%3D4https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/baby-got-back-glee-cast-version/id592420108?i=592420188ign-mpt=uo%3D4

 The comments on iTunes and on Glee's Twitter feed are amusing.

 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Kevin M. drunkba...@gmail.com wrote:
  All conjecture at this point... no way to know if the song he found a
  recording of is to be used on Glee, but somebody wants him to think it
  is, and it is identical to his arrangement.
 
  http://www.jonathancoulton. com/2013/01/18/baby-got-back- 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The state of kids cartoons today

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As far as cartoons, just turn on Phineas and Ferb. it's fun for all ages.
and it's not dumb.


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 Trust me. The Doctor's last two companions (Karen Gillan and the new
 one, Jenna-Louise Coleman) are fare and fair for grown-ups - at least,
 this grown-up.

 On Jan 18, 1:22 pm, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:
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  Not a personal favorite, but as fare for 10-year-olds, it is better
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The state of kids cartoons today

[Jason Carpio]

the more egregious cartoons are the lego ones. Ninjago and the ones with
anamorphic lions.


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 Watching a friend's kid, I'm being exposed to what passes for
 entertainment for kids. It is making me long for the crap we had when
 I was young. At the heart of my misery is the cartoon that exists to
 sell Bayblades. Clearly someone bought the rights to an unused spec
 script for Pokemon and they use that as the script for EVERY Beyblade
 episode. The animation is nonexistent, Clutch Cargo was better. For
 the life of me, I cannot imagine why the world needed toys (and a
 corresponding cartoon) to sell combative dreidels.

 They ought to play these cartoons to detainees at GitMo.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NFL Network Does RedZone Right

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I'm sure its value to people playing Fantasy Football cannot be underplayed


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tvwrote:

 On Dec 2, 2012, at 6:55 PM, PGage wrote:

  What is most surprising to me is that RZ is produced by the NFL Network
 - since they are so consistently and extraordinarily awful with their
 Thursday night broadcasts of games (and their pregame show may actually be
 worse than ESPN's). How can the same people do one so well and the other
 so, so, bad?

 My theory:  for the NFL RedZone, they had one singular model to follow, in
 the form of DirecTV's Red Zone Channel, which had existed for a few years
 before the NFL got into the act with their version.  For their NFL coverage
 and pregame show, they had to synthesize from a number of other efforts.

 I'm a fan of the DirecTV version with host Andrew Siciliano, which I think
 is similarly worthy of praise to what PGage said of the NFL Network
 version.  I do prefer to watch games featuring my team, but as with
 yesterday when they're scheduled for a game in the second Sunday time slot,
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Semi-OT: Disney buys Lucas

[Jason Carpio]

So does this mean Disney owns ILM, Skywalker sound and the THX license as
well as all star wars licenses?

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 Probably the best decision Disney made since their union with Pixar,
 though I think it means Lucas is done producing big budget stuff.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Semi-OT: Disney buys Lucas

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So disney will have Avengers 2 and Star wars 7, plus a pixar movie. I say
that's a good year for them.

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 You seem to have missed the other part of the headline. They are
 producing Star Wars Episode 7 to come out in 2015. I haven't seen any
 word on whether this will be a whole new story line or will follow any
 of the story lines in the myriad books that have come out in the past
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  though I think it means Lucas is done producing big budget stuff.
 
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] WSJ: DVR +7 Numbers Slowing Trigger Fingers

[Jason Carpio]

I imagine they don't factor in shows that are on Hulu.  That's how I watch
quite a few shows actually.

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 The fact they have to wait seven days to see when people watch their
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Battlestar Galactica Ruins A Perfectly Good Word

[Jason Carpio]

well, that's pretty fracking stupid.

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hearst newspapers have decided to ban a certain word in their comment
 sections, even though the word has a very legitimate and important
 use, especially in natural gas production.


 http://jimromenesko.com/2012/10/17/hearst-site-bans-the-word-fracking-in-comments/

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RE: [TV orNotTV] DVR-Worthy New Shows?

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I've watched the pilots for revolution and go on via Hulu. I liked them
both, although I liked go on more than the other.

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On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Other than

 http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2012/09/06/fall-tv-2012-preview-7-shows-to-watch-7-shows-to-skip-photos.html
 I have been mostly ignorant of what's coming up. The Fall Preview
 issue of EW arrived the other day, but I haven't had a chance to see
 if this is one of their criticizing years or one of their cheerleading
 years. I haven't seen TV Guide in years -- no idea how credible their
 Fall Preview might be. Some network promo ads have been unavoidable,
 of course, but have drawn me to be interested only in Last Resort and
 Elementary.


The DB piece was helpful. This was about the 4th recommendation I have read
to watch Nashville even if I hate country music (which I do). They have all
mentioned that it is impossible to not enjoy Connie Britton (which does
seem true). Maybe I will at least try it. The DB was down on Revolution,
which is also consistent with several other negative reviews I have read,
and with the really cheesy vibe given off by the previews; but this is the
kind of show I usually give a lot of chances to, even when they are quite
bad, so I will take a flyer. New to me was the British show about the
midwives - I will try that one out (on PBS).

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Re: [TV orNotTV] DVR-Worthy New Shows?

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how long do you give a new show. I usually give 3 weeks.

On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Karla S. Robinson, Ph.D. 
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 I liked the pilot of Go On…maybe because I really like Matthew Perry and
 believe he has excellent comic timing.  I’m interested in Revolution
 (continuing the cultural zeitgeist of girls with archery skills) and
 Elementary (Lucy Liu as Watson in a reimagining of Sherlock Holmes).  Am
 thinking I will have more time for TV this fall than I have in many
 years…what else is looking good?

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 I have been trying to see which new shows I might want to make room for on
 my DVR presets, but realized I knew surprisingly little about any of them.
 I surfed the web for some help, and came up with the candidates below. I am
 interested if anyone sees a show not listed that should be, or has a strong
 feeling to urge me off of any that are. Not all of these shows got the
 thumbs up from my original source, and there were other shows with good
 reviews that I could tell were just not my cup of tea (something about
 Nashville country singers?) - below are shows that, from the descriptions
 and reviews, seemed like they could be things I might enjoy at least
 somewhat (the lower line for that for me is something like Hawaii Five 0).
 I am pretty committed to at least checking out Elementary (I know), and The
 Mindy Project, but other than those I am uncommitted. Even though the
 Olympic ads turned me off the entire NBC new fall schedule, reviews I have
 read suggest that New Normal and Go On are worth giving a chance.

- Go On (NBC)
- New Normal (NBC)
- Revolution (NBC)
- The Mindy Project (Fox)
- 666 Park Ave (ABC)
- Last Resort (ABC)
- Elementary (CBS)
- Vegas (CBS)
- Arrow (CW)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon Beefs Up Streaming

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I like having the app on my 360

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 The new iPad app is wonderful.

 On 8/24/12, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:48 AM, David Risner da...@risner.org wrote:
 
  I agree; however, I find that Amazon's video service does not perform
  as well technically as Netflix does. I get audio glitches (that loud
  chirp when the audio stream breaks up mostly) and finding stuff is not
  as easy.
 
  This is running on my Roku or on my Kindle Fire (which you think would
  work flawlessly).
 
  Could be peering issues with Time Warner that Netflix has worked out
  and Amazon hasn't, who knows?
 
 
  I have not had the audio problems (I watch mostly on my Blu Ray player or
  IMac) but I do share the disappointment with the ease of searching and
  browsing.
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC buys 'West Wing' at the U.N.

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Huh, so Studio 60 keeps giving back, eh?

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 A script commitment was given to a Walter Parkes/Laurie Macdonald project
 written by Tom Brady (*Hell on Wheels*) which follows an interpreter at
 the international organization’s New York HQ working with ambassadors and
 politicians from various countries...

 Deadlinehttp://www.deadline.com/2012/08/nbc-buys-united-nations-drama-west-wing-aaron-sorkin-hell-on-wheels-parkes-macdonald/



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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC's Olympic blunders...

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That still doesn't excuse the Missy Franklin Today commercial before the
actual race last night.

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 Joe Posnanski of Sports on Earth reminds us that NBC is not programming to
 sports fans--key quote:

 There’s a good argument to be made that networks and corporations should
 pay utmost heed to what their diehard customers want, rather than just be
 blandly generalist. If you make your most loyal customers happy, they’ll
 stick with you during down periods, providing you a solid customer base.
 But the Olympics are absolutely not the time to make that argument. There
 are no loyalist Olympic fans. This is an event that comes around every two
 years, featuring sports that, in any other context, no one cares about.
 There is no solid customer base. Everyone’s just dabbling, so NBC is
 selling accordingly. The Olympics are a two-week episode of the “Today”
 show, pitched at that level and sold accordingly. It’s the only way to do
 it.

 And he also reminds us that only a small subset of the Internet is on
 Twitter--and that there are still 18 percent of Americans with no access to
 the net at all (and adds that he's not happy with NBC, either, but he's not
 the audience):


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Kabletown Getting Out of AE

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Speaking of Hearst:

http://twcconversations.com/local/?eid=trueIID=50022974-DF7E-40B4-9AAF-880F68D99DCB


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 AE Networks, started with the merger of ABC and Hearst's ARTS and RCA's
 Rockefeller Center TV's Entertainment Channel (RCTV was folded into NBC
 after the sale of the Peacock to GE), is now solely owned by Hearst and ABC
 successor Disney, as Comcast takes $3B for its share of the company, whose
 arsenal includes Bio, History, H2, Lifetime, LMN and CI:

 http://www.thewrap.com/media/article/comcast-sells-stake-ae-3-billion-47066

 And Lauren Zazalnick is probably comfortable for the first time since AE
 acquired Lifetime in 2009, as her NBCU-owned channel Oxygen is finally not
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[TV orNotTV] Linsanity Follow-up statement and action « ESPN Front Row

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http://frontrow.espn.go.com/2012/02/follow-up-statement-and-action/

Who was the on air and commenter that the statement was referring to?

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RE: [TV orNotTV] Linsanity Follow-up statement and action ?? ESPN Front Row

[Jason Carpio]

Okay, the on-air guy I can tolerate because it's a common phrase.

The Whitlock tweet was way more offensive than this and it was
intentional.

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I found an article with video here:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/espn-jeremy-lin-knicks-race-292611

It was Max Bretos using the same phrase as an espn.com headline.


Pete

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Tweets you never thought you'd see

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Here's a link to elaborate on the tweet

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/television/fear-factor-donkey-semen-stunt-pulled-nbc-parent-company-comcast-article-1.1014016


On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote:

 From Rob Owen, TV critic for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Goodby Chuck (he picked a good font)

[Jason Carpio]

Consider me a hard-core Chuck fan:

Not as hard core as Alan Sepinwall though:

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/chuck-vs-the-greatest-hits-best-moments-in-the-shows-history


On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:09 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/01/27/chuck-series-finale-recap-react/

 I don't imagine there are a lot of hard-core Chuck fans on this list, but
 we are in our house. I guess its as much because when the show started my
 son was in 5th grade, and now he is a freshman in high school, and it has
 though all that time been something that he and I watched together. It is
 one of the few sweet shows that does not make me sick. By the end, like
 Sarah, I loved Chuck Bartowski and I didn't  know what to do about it. I
 thought they had a fantastic finale last night, and gave the fans, who
 willed that show to a full five seasons, a complete package, something we
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Alcatraz Was: Quickie Review: The Firm

[Jason Carpio]

Is FOX going to rerun Alcatraz this week. I missed the premiere and Hulu
doesn't have the rights to watch on the TV.

JCarpio

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks. Busy week, so hard (drive) decisions must be made.

 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:49 AM, David Risner da...@risner.org wrote:
  Mo Ryan reviewed it here:
 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maureen-ryan/alcatraz-fox-jorge-garcia_b_1208960.html?ref=maureen-ryan
 
  Based upon her review, I decided to wait and see if it survived and got
  better. I will probably watch it off of DVDs/Netflix/Hulu+ if it turns
 out
  to be good down the road.
 
  -- David
 
  On Thursday, January 19, 2012, Jon Delfin wrote:
 
  Meanwhile, I still have two hours of Alcatraz cluttering up my DVR's
  hard drive. Anybody care to QR it?
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:11 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   This show only got worse in episode 3 (which I just watched). The
   tvbythenumbers guys have written the obit, though it will take a while
   to
   get the body in the ground:
  
  
  
 http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/18/nbc-the-firm-is-certain-to-be-canceled-but-how-long-will-it-stay-on-the-air/116647/
  
   After a weak start on a Sunday, The Firm ratings fell even further in
   its
   Thursday regular time slot premiere. Its 1.0 adults 18-49 rating marks
   it as
   certain to be canceled, even on the train wreck that is NBC primetime.
  
   But because Sony made NBC a super cheap deal for all 22 episodes of
 The
   Firm, and NBC isn't likely to have good (if any) alternatives for its
   Thursday time slot, it may stay on the schedule this season for quite
   some
   time. What's certain is that by the end of this season it will be
   canceled
   and not return to NBC (it's future outside the US isn't something I'm
   concerned with). No matter how long it takes, the cancellation bear
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   be
   waiting.
 
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[TV orNotTV] So TV is expanding on where its available

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http://majornelson.com/2011/10/05/xbox-360-teams-up-with-entertainment-leaders-to-transform-tv/

I wonder what the rules on HBO Go will be since my cable provider (TWC)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] A Victory for Netflix. . .

[Jason Carpio]

Hopefully this content will be in HD unlike the STARZ offerings.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Wesley McGee wesley.mc...@gmail.comwrote:

 Finally, good news for the beleaguered Netflix, they struck a deal with
 Dreamworks Animation, beating out HBO to get first airing of their films.


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[TV orNotTV] The Walk and Talk writer is back on TV

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Interesting cast for this show.

Hopefully it is the love child of Sports Night and West Wing.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/09/08/aaron-sorkin-cable-news-drama/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Walk and Talk writer is back on TV

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Kevin got the first name right at least.

John Spencer

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Trevor Tymchuk altst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not sure who you're thinking of, but John Mahoney is alive and working.



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  As managers go on his shows, Robert Gillome suffered a severe stroke and
  John Mahoney died of a heart attack. Sam Watterston ought to have a
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Walk and Talk writer is back on TV

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I liked Studio 60 for the first half of the season. When they came back from
Christmas break the show just got weird.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] No More Starz -- The Netflix Value Proposition Takes a Turn for the Worse.

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Well, if your cable company supports it, you could also stream HBO content
on your computer via hbo go. it's not just an ipad app.

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:01 AM, David Risner da...@risner.org wrote:

 Even with this news, I'm still canceling Starz once Torchwood is over
 next week. They cancelled Camelot and have said Torchwood isn't coming
 back in the foreseeable future, and they were the only things I watch
 on Starz.  Same with Showtime, once The Big C is over, I'll cancel
 that until just before it starts up again next year.  HBO is the only
 one I keep around because I like both True Blood and Game of Thrones.

 Movies in general don't interest me as much as series.  If I really
 want to watch a movie, I Red Box it or just wait until it's on Netflix
 streaming.  Even if that's a couple years down the line, no biggie.
 It's just a movie.  If it never comes to Netflix streaming, it's their
 loss. I'm not paying extra money just to see a movie.


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  On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:27, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I ask this out of ignorance and unwillingness to do the research: does
  Starz have any original content?
 
  At least a couple of series, including the current run of Doctor Who
  spinoff Torchwood, and a serialized remake of Spartacus which has
 had to
  take some extraordinary measures due to the fact that the actor who had
 the
  title role in the first season was diagnosed with cancer (season 2 was a
  prequel without the title character, and the role of Spartacus has been
  recast for season 3.)
 
  Also Camelot. But yes, Starz was more important to Netflix a year ago
 than
  it will be a year from now, for the reasons Tom gave. It was great for
  families like mine - I discontinued all premium movie channels on DirecTV
  except for HBO, and still got Starz (this includes all of their content
  shown on the Encore channels as well) - which alone paid for our monthly
  Netflix bill.
 
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[TV orNotTV] AMC and joys of being a small network

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http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/08/amc_mad_men_walking_dead_break.html

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[TV orNotTV] USA TODAY: ESPN 'reminds' Azinger to lay off Obama

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  UPDATE: ESPN 'reminds' Paul Azinger to lay off President Obama on Twitter



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RE: [TV orNotTV] Re: Fox Hulu Embargo Means More Internet Piracy

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Glee season 2 is on Hulu+

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Not having watched either show (Idol in about 8 years, Glee in ever),
I'm curious - is either show posted to Hulu in its entirety? I'd think
music rights would be an utter bitch for either show.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Next Netflix Boot To Drop?

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you can watch whatever you want. they're just tied to the same queue.

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 Help me understand this as it stands now.

 Let's say I have a Netflix account. In my house, I have three boxes (a
 computer, a Roku box, and a Wii). Right now, I could register each box
 under my single account. Does this mean I could watch three movies at
 the same time on each box? Could I only watch something on one box at
 a time?

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  Netflix has been mulling a change that would eliminate household sharing
 of
  Internet video streaming and require each individual user to pay a
 monthly
  fee.
 
  Todd Yellin, the company's vice president of product innovation, is
 quoted
  as saying that the kids tab does not make the individual user pricing
 more
  or less likely:  It's just something that's a possibility, but not
  imminent.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: Netflix for books?

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The most reliable and cheap book rental place will be the library.

But seriously, is bookswim available on portable platforms?

JCarpio

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 My mother-in-law (84 and with no tech savvy) is a voracious reader and
 apparently in the market for an e-reader. My wife asked me if I knew
 anything about ebook rental services (bookswim?). I don't, but thought
 I'd ask you all if you know of any and if there is any clear winner
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[TV orNotTV] Good News Kevin: Shannen is back

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http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/07/20/shannen-doherty-weds-new-reality-series-exclusive/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Netflix Too Good To Be True

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I'm going to streaming only and use redbox or on demand for new releases.

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 I'm going the other direction. I'm going streaming only. I have the 1 disc
 plan now and I've had Winter's Bone since the Oscars. I also have the movie.


 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Indeed. I just altered my plan to eliminate the streaming and stay
 with DVDs only. My TV isn't online, and I'm not going to sit at my
 computer to watch long-form video.

 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:
  It's interesting to note that WSJ's hed on this is Netflix Plays Down
  DVDs when everything I've read says that Netflix is realizing that
  their DVD service may not die as fast as everyone thinks it will and
  is going to push it harder.
 
  From off-list commentators, the general tone on this is pretty
  negative. I'm trying to flush out a little more info form the
  complainers.
 
  WSJ: http://goo.gl/p0eyI
 
  On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Jason Carpio jcar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  So who called this?
  http://www.businessinsider.com/netflix-prices-2011-7
 
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Netflix Too Good To Be True

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Well there is enough content on there to bide your time while you wait. I'm
also one of those power users of netflix. Mostly streaming, in fact that's
what my plan is.

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:25 AM, d...@flids.net wrote:

 ...and still paying their monthly fee while they wait.  If I was a service
 provider, that'd be the sort of problem I'd be wishing for.

 Doug Fields
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 Not only one, certainly, but a finite number. And odds are, somebody
 somewhere is wanting it.

 On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:54 AM, David Lynch djly...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 07:37, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:
  How is that a problem with Netflix? It might be a problem *for*
 Netflix
 
  Unless there's only one copy of a disc left in existence, how is
  somebody paying for a service that they never actually use ever bad
  for the service provider?
 
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Netflix Too Good To Be True

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So who called this?

http://www.businessinsider.com/netflix-prices-2011-7

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Jason Carpio jcar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well there is enough content on there to bide your time while you wait. I'm
 also one of those power users of netflix. Mostly streaming, in fact that's
 what my plan is.


 On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:25 AM, d...@flids.net wrote:

 ...and still paying their monthly fee while they wait.  If I was a service
 provider, that'd be the sort of problem I'd be wishing for.

 Doug Fields
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 To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com

 Not only one, certainly, but a finite number. And odds are, somebody
 somewhere is wanting it.

 On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 9:54 AM, David Lynch djly...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 07:37, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:
  How is that a problem with Netflix? It might be a problem *for*
 Netflix
 
  Unless there's only one copy of a disc left in existence, how is
  somebody paying for a service that they never actually use ever bad
  for the service provider?
 
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Netflix Too Good To Be True

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Hulu has more recent series. Amazon's library seem more on par with Netflix
in terms of how old their content is.

Netflix is definitely more diverse than Amazon. But with the added bonus of
being on many of my devices that can stream to tv or mobile.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:40 AM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Netflix might have an out by emphasizing its niche capabilities.  Based on
 my limited mail-only Netflix experience, both Amazon and Hulu seem focused
 on more recent and more popular series, while older and more genre material
 seems easier to find on Netflix.

 David

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 On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:23 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:
  We signed up for the Netflix just about a year ago, and immediately felt
  that it really was too good to be true. Apparently, it is. Interesting
  article on CNN today:
 
 http://money.cnn.com/2011/07/08/technology/netflix_starz_contract/?hpt=hp_p1iref=NS1
 
  that notes the problem with Sony films being taken down from instant
 viewing
  (they reached the cap on the Starz contract on the number of online
 views)
  as just the beginning. Most ominous for people like me is this: Wedbush
  Securities... predicts Netflix's streaming content licensing costs will
 rise
  from $180 million in 2010 to a whopping $1.98 billion in 2012.
 
  I am not a business man, but it seems like this inevitably must lead to
 the
  monthly Netflix rate going up - and if it goes up more than a couple of
  dollars a month it becomes a significantly less useful service. At
 $10/month
  it is a great supplement to my satellite (soon to be cable) package - and
  for people who can't and don't want to pay for any extra TV, it would be
 a
  great alternative to basic cable. At $20/month or more (which is not even
  close to the percentage increase in their predicted content costs) it
  becomes more of a luxury item that I might do without - especially since
 my
  new cable package apparently includes a discount on all premium channels
  that will make it significantly cheaper (for the next 2 years at least)
 than
  my current phone+internet+ satellite (HBO only). Moreover, I am told that
 we
  will be able to access a lot of the Comcast content online (which is what
 my
  kids mostly like to do).
 
  The article also notes that while Netflix got out in front of the
 steaming
  model, it has now attracted competitors with much deeper pockets:
 Netflix
  had a $161 million profit last year on sales of $2.2 billion, and it
 ended
  last quarter with $342 million in cash on hand. But Netflix's rivals have
  much larger bigger wallets. At the end of the first quarter, Amazon had
  almost $7 billion in cash, and Google had a whopping $37 billion. Plus
 Hulu
  is for sale, and could go to another deep pocket telecommunications or
 tech
  corporation.
 
  If online distribution becomes just another form of cable TV, then it
 will
  be less attractive, and these last few years may be remembered as the
 short
  golden age of online content.

 Does that mean we non-streamers can get our Netflix-by-mail back?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Netflix Too Good To Be True

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Disney has that For Rental Only option as well. I saw it on the Tron Disc

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 On Jul 11, 12:47 pm, Darren Glass dgl...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:44 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
   Discs with extras and subtitles is an advantage the red envelopes have
 over
   the red and blue boxes (which could stick around longer should offering
   games takes off).
 
  It seems like more and more of the discs I get through mail from Netflix
  don't have the extras, though, with the menus saying the extras are only
  available on purchased copies of the dvds.

 Warners' rental DVDs have FOR RENTAL ONLY in big letters on the DVD
 and only have trailers on them--the only other studio that I thought
 didn't put extras on rental DVDs was Lionsgate, until the disc of
 Rabbit Hole I rented had extras.

 Granted, I don't rent enough to know when they are or aren't putting
 on extras, but since it seemed that Warners was the only major studio
 doing this (I haven't rented a 20th-Century Fox DVD), that you could
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[TV orNotTV] Traveling back in time to advertise what's going on in 2011

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http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2011/07/zookeeper-marketing-travels-back-in-time.php

I work in advertising and I'm even appalled by this.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Netflix 100 Problem

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Hmmm, i can see this issue being a problem.  However the UI on the xbox 360
accommodates the all series episode in one package option well.

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:40 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't want to be one of those Netflix bashers; the Netflix has been very
 good to me and my family, and it is easy to get spoiled when you don't get
 everything exactly your way. But a problem has come to my attention that is
 moderately irritating. I think (but am not sure) that I have at least
 figured out what the problem is, but I am wondering if anyone here knows of
 a solution.

 The problem is (I think) related to a change Netflix made some months ago -
 TV series used to be indexed separately by each season, so that, for
 example, you would add Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Season 1 to your cue, and
 then also Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Season 2, and so on. A while ago they
 started saving the entire series, so you would only add Buffy the Vampire
 Slayer once, and all seasons are in the cue. This did not happen all at
 once - I noticed that for a while some were saved the old way, and some the
 new. But a few months ago or so though, it looks like all shows are saved in
 the whole series method. I don't like this new method - it is more
 difficult for one thing to tell when you have gone from one season to the
 next. But that was a very minor irritation.

 Then I started watching SG-1, notable as the first show I streamed from
 Netflix since the changeover that contained a large number of episodes. I
 got a Vizio Blu Ray wireless device for Father's day, which is set up to
 stream Netflix (and other services). I like it. But apparently many non-PC
 devices (including my Vizio) have a limit on the number of episodes from any
 one show that can be displayed in memory. When I got around midway through
 the 5th season of SG-1 I came very close to going right to the first episode
 of Season 6 - but then noticed that there were only 2 episodes in Season 6,
 and that it then continued with Season 7. That seemed odd, so I went and
 looked at the Netflix listings on my computer (IMac) and sure enough not
 only were there a full 22 episodes for Season 6, but there were 22 for
 Season 5 as well, even though my Vizio only displayed I think 12. I googled
 around just a little and saw that others were having similar problems - and
 apparently the magic number is 100. Many non-pc devices will not display
 more than 100 episodes.

 The fix for this seems to be to disconnect the non-pc device from netflix,
 go to the computer, play the next episode (that does not display on the
 non-pc device) for 5 seconds, exit, then restart netflix on the device. That
 brings that episode up (and, in my experience so far, the very next one, so
 that the procedure recovers 2 episodes) though the cost is that the two
 preceding episodes get deleted from the non-pc device display. Netflix seems
 to think that this is the final solution to the problem, not the temporary
 patch that it feels like.

 Its not the end of the world - probably everyone who streams on non-pc
 devices also has access to a computer at least much of the time to work the
 fix. It is a limitation on the claim that you can watch Netflix content on
 your television just as easily as you can on your computer. It is a moderate
 pain, as if you are not careful you will start watching an episode from a
 season or two in the future, and have to go into the next room or wherever
 and repeat the procedure. I don't know why these devices have such a limit,
 but it is frustrating that there seems to be such an obvious, long term fix
 to the problem, which is to go back to packaging shows season by season.
 Since no show has more than 100 episodes in a season, this problem would
 never pop up.

 So, two questions I guess: 1) Aside from making the queues a little more
 tidy, what advantage to packaging all seasons together is there that
 outweighs the inconvenience do non-pc device users? and 2) has anyone found
 a better fix for this problem?


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Re: RE: [TV orNotTV] Tits and Breasts on HBO

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Well, as usual. the focus is on the nudity and not the violence. Because
that is acceptable.

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 On , Jason Carpio jcar...@gmail.com wrote:
  If you find the content offensive or gratuitous there is the option to
 not watch it.

 To be fair, I think her point was that the quality of most HBO shows is
 high enough that it does not need gratuitous nudity to attract subscribers
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Tits and Breasts on HBO

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If you find the content offensive or gratuitous there is the option to
not watch it.

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I agree that the nudity seems pretty gratuitous at times, but I'm not
totally sure that I buy the implicit part of the argument that it's
somehow worse for female characters. I'd argue that 100% of the
below-the-belt male nudity that I can recall from Game of Thrones was
extraneous to the plot in the sense that it could have been done with
some cover or by framing from the waist up without losing anything.
The same applies to the vast majority of the female nudity that I can
recall, but not necessarily all of it (e.g., Danerys' last scene and
Cat's sister breastfeeding.)

Also, if she gets to use The Sopranos as an example, I get to counter
with Oz, which had recappers tittering about gratuitous dong shot(s)
while the (very few) female characters pretty much kept their clothes
on.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 20:41, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:
 LA Times TV critic Mary McNamara explains why it is time for HBO to stop
 with the tits already in what I gather is a piece for this Sunday's
 Calender, available online at:

 http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-ca-hbo-breasts-20110703,0,6762922.story

 This is an articulate expression of growing sentiment I have seen expressed
 in recent months, both online and in face to face conversations, mostly
 since Game of Thrones. I am surprised that there is a lot in it that I agree
 with (surprised because, like Kramer in that Seinfeld episode with the naked
 woman traipsing around in the apartment across the street, few heterosexual
 American men can really bring themselves to call for less female nudity on
 their television sets).

 Still, there was much I did not agree with. I don't agree that upper body
 female frontal nudity is always, or even mostly, gratuitous and exploitative
 (that she calls tits, as opposed to the artistic depiction of boobs, as in
 the final scene of  the season-ending episode of Thrones, which McNamara,
 with some justification, calls the the best use of female nudity on
 television ever) on HBO. I am currently re-watching the complete series of
 The Sopranos, and have been confirmed in my judgement that the mostly
 plastic tits at the Bing are almost always an essential marker of the
 underlying limited humanity of Tony and his boys, and almost never really
 used for erotic titillation. The nudity in the various sex scenes most of
 the time come closer to McNamara's breasts than tits (in a variation of what
 Paul Newman once famously said about the The Player - they are the kinds
 of scenes where we usually don't see the tits of the women we want to see,
 but mostly the tits of the women we don't want). Ditto the use of boobs in
 Deadwood. I thought Rome was a bit titty excessive (I only saw the first
 season of that), but unlike McNamara, I think their use in Boardwalk Empire
 was mostly justified. I have not seen the HBO vampire show, I hear there are
 a lot of tits in that.

 But Thrones does seem to have set a new level for gratuitous tit shots.
 There were a couple of much discussed scenes where the boobs seemed to be
 thrown in merely to keep the audience from flipping during extended periods
 of plot exposition by one of the main characters. Again, unlike Ms. McNamara
 I am not automatically offended by the use of naked female breasts - I have
 found it possible to appreciate the beauty of the female form (okay, lust
 after hot babes) while also respecting women for their intelligence, humor
 and abilities. But a few years after my age stopped ending in the word
 teen I stopped being interested primarily in the sight of strange female
 breasts (though a certain interest remains), like most (well, many) grown
 men who have seen a few real breasts of real women. The use of tits on
 Thrones had the effect on me of undermining what in most other respects was
 a successful attempt to tell a fantasy saga that grown-ups could enjoy. But
 those long titty scenes threatened to reduce the show to the the its genre
 spawn in the sweaty daydreams of 15 year old boy virgins.

 Unlike McNamara, whose article had the pungent aroma of hyper-feminist
 puritanism, I would like to see Thrones, and maybe HBO in general, give more
 thought to its use of nudity and sexuality, not to focus on de-sexualized
 depictions of breasts as in the dragon mother scene, but a more mature, and
 effective inclusion of sexuality and eroticism in its dramas.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Jackass star dies being a jackass

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http://jalopnik.com/5814805/ryan-dunns-jackass-friends-expected-him-to-die-in-a-car-crash

Nice of his friends to predict how he's going to go

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 This brings to mind a column Mike Royko wrote after John Belushi died.
 He wrote a very touching column either the Monday or Tuesday after
 Belushi's death (Royko knew Belushi from Belushi's childhood). It
 ended with a line I have used a lot in my life: I learned a long time
 ago that life isn't always fair. But it shouldn't cheat that much.

 A couple days later, he wrote another column sharing some of the
 letters he got from readers basically taunting him for sharing the
 positive memories he had about such a bad person, to which Royko
 effectively told them in a polite way to go jump off Navy Pier.

 I think of what I would do if an acquaintence died in a spectaularly
 stupid way. And I'm not sure how I would respond to their family. I
 think Ebert posted what everyone thought. And we can each decide if
 that's okay or not.

 On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Joe Coughlin inturnaro...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Don't have sympathy for him. But have sympathy for the people who cared
  about him who probably know he was an idiot for doing what he did, but
 still
  hurt when they see their loved one attacked.
 
  Ebert was correct, but was he right?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Skype on Your TV?

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Should be interesting when the MS/Skype buyout is finalized and a Skype app
will be added to the xbox 360.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Mark J. mjeffr...@marcrealty.com wrote:

 The nation's top cable MSO Comcast is planning by next year to offer
 Skype service for your TV set, with plans to merge it into their phone
 services:


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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Bill Simmons' offshoot website is live

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I think my only complaint so far about the site is that it's mobile
unfriendly.  otherwise I like what I've been reading.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:48 AM, televisiongirl
televisiong...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I remember buying The National every day on my way to work. I was 17 at
 the time, working at a sub shop, and I knew, even at that young age, that
 this was great stuff.

 It's impossible to judge success after two days, but the stuff they're
 putting out is very good. If you're not a sports fan, try Wright Thompson's
 piece on the closing of Elaine's in NYC. (on my phone or else I'd post a
 link)



 Wright Thompson's piece on Elaine's:

 http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6628247/last-testament-great-saloon

 The History of The National (with awesome Mike Lupica bashing):


 http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6629257/view/full/the-greatest-paper-ever-died

 Memories of writing for The National (with new, extra Mike Lupica bashing)
 by Charles P. Pierce:

 http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6626434/view/full/my-memories-national


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Dumb question of the day

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If all else fails, you can watch the series on Netflix Streaming.

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 Well, I was hoping for something a little more substantive.  But I do
 appreciate knowing that someone I respect likes the show.

 Sorry I can't say why I asked the question.

 As I've probably said before, I'm not a fan of science fiction.  But I've
 enjoyed reading about the show this morning.

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Like, I'm looking forward to the new season? Or something else?

 I'm looking forward to the new season.



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[TV orNotTV] NotTV: Bill Simmons' offshoot website is live

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http://www.grantland.com/

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RE: [TV orNotTV] Networks Start To Look Beyond The Nielsens

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  I'm just glad that there is a movement to evolve the ratings system.

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On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I disagree. What this starts to do is match the conversations and
 discussions with the show, which provides a better identification for
 advertisers who are looking for what's being sold. We've all agreed
 that Nielsen is barely functional as it stands. This is as good a shot
 as any to move to the next step.


The idea is a good one (moving beyond the Nielsen sample), but I am
skeptical of the execution. They appear to be weighting pretty highly how
often a show is mentioned on social networking sites, in the absence of
any hard data as to how this actually translates into viewership of the
show. It would not be surprising of shows like Glee generate more mentions
on twitter and FB than a show like CSI or Criminal Minds, but I am not sure
the extra mentions really translate into extra viewing. And I am pretty sure
the extra mentions rarely include references to whatever product was
advertised or even placed in the show. And making bets on how successful
future, as yet un-aired shows will do based on how often they are mentioned
on FB is absurd.

OTOH, I was impressed with the effort to quantify how a product's placement
or advertisement on a show actually impacts how it sells. If I were an
advertiser it seems like this is the specific information I most want to
know. I don't give a damn if 15 million people watch American Idol and only
4 million watch The Killing - if a 30 second ad on The Killing sells as many
units of my product as the same on AI, and it costs me a lot less, then that
is the ad I want to buy (or, if I don't it is because I care less about
selling that particular item and more about building product recognition or
something like that).

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Couple of TV-related podcasts to recommend

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I mostly just listen to the Iceberg and Firewall podcast from hitfix.com

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Steve Timko steveti...@gmail.com wrote:

 As Kevin has mentioned in another thread, the Garry Shandling episode of
 Marc Maron's WTF became available today. I listened to it and found it
 interesting for a couple of reasons. One is that it's the worst recording of
 Shandling I've ever heard. He sounds extra nasally and phlegmy. Maron needs
 to consider microphones other than those Blue mics. But I did learn about
 Shandling.
 The prior episode to Shandling is Phil Rosenthal, one of the guys behind
 Everybody Loves Raymond. Lots of good insight into television on that
 podcast too.
 I've found Greg Fitzsimmon's FitzDog radio less consistent, but his
 interview with Bill Lawrence was pretty good. Lawrence, who brought us
 Scrubs and worked on other TV shows, was pretty candid. I think people
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RE: [TV orNotTV] NBC's Fall Schedule

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  Hopefully the broadcast crowd will like mad men vibe.

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 My choice for a new show on NBC is
  the Playboy Club with David Krumholtz from Numbers and Amber Heard
 who is a recent crush I have developed, so seeing her as a bunny will
 please me.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC's Fall Schedule

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Is it whining or is it supporting? So they love their show. They shouldn't
apologize for trying to keep it on the air.

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:24 PM, JW redbu...@gmail.com wrote:

  Glad to see NBC dong scripted shows on Friday night, even if the
  Chuck fanboiz are going to whine, whine, whine.

 This will be the last 13 episodes of the series, so NBC can ignore the
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon Deal of the Day (May 10): Choose Your Favorite Friday Night Lights Seasons for $11.99

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Or if you just want to watch the series. every season except current is on
netflix stream. plus you can watch current season on hulu plus.

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 Choose Your Favorite Friday Night Lights Seasons for $11.99

 This critically acclaimed series tells the story of a high school
 football coach and his two families: his wife and daughter, and his
 team.

 List Price: $29.98
 Yesterday's Price:  $21.99
 Today's Discount:   - $10.00
 Gold Box Price: $11.99  (60% off)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Request for the brain trust...

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So like Alyssa Milano to use as an example?

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  Looking for case studies of singers, actors, musicians who have found
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Request for the brain trust...

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So people that were made famous because of the internet or ones that
expanded their fame via the medium.

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 Depends on what you mean by success on the Internet.  (Honest, I'm not
 trying to be a smartass).  The most successful example would be Justin
 Bieber, who started out by posting some videos on YouTube of himself
 singing and playing music.  You know how that worked out.  Like him or
 not, that was successful.

 But if you mean performers who are successful online, and mostly only
 online, I'm not sure.  I could suggest Kate Micucci who has
 successfully sold both her solo music and her duo, Garfunkel and
 Oates.  Much of their success is online, with only some exposure on
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Re: Request for the brain trust...

[Jason Carpio]

And famous to because of his song on the game Portal.

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Jonathon Coulton.  Musician, friend of John Hodgman.

http://www.jonathancoulton.com


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Now streaming on Netflix: Sports Night

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Thanks, added to queue

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Wondie McBeal and the electric blue latex pants

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Will the show have more aired episodes than the bionic woman reboot?

I'm thinking yes. but it'll be close.

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 It's not perfect, but it's much improved. I'd wager the show will suck,
 though, but I'd love to be wrong.


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 The costume has been revised again. The red boots are back and the
 eagle is more defined. The pleather pants have been replaced by
 spandex.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Idiot Comment Post of the Day

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Someone should of told the guy that in the long run preventative measures
like watching what you eat, no smoking and exercising will cut down on
medical costs.

Also, as a republican, these tea baggers bring the party down. (well,
further down).

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Mark J. mjeffr...@marcrealty.com wrote:

 From the comments to the ex-Chief's piece on TV shows (mostly reality)
 about obesity and weight loss from a RockChalkJayhawk:

 More PC bull.Leave fat people alone. When I was growing up, I was
 taught not to make fun of or draw attention to other peoples flaws.
 Actually, some cultures see extra pounds as a sign of success,not a
 flaw at all.

 The Progressives started this with the anti smoking propaganda
 campaign and now its obesity. Whatever happened to personal freedom?
 If Healthcare Reform stands, the cost of healthcare will be a slippery
 slope that can be used against salt, soft drinks, butter, or anything
 the govt says contributes to obesity. Try running your own life
 instead of other people's lives. Just another sign that govt is too
 big.

 Plus the whole 'focus on fat' campaign is counterproductive as all the
 scorn causes more anxiety that gets drowned in more comfort food.

 Read more:
 http://www.kansascity.com/2011/03/04/2699468/shows-about-obesity-weigh-in.html#ixzz1G1U17a8g

 Since when is watching your weight and proper exercise a liberal
 thing?  Did Limbaugh or Beck or some other right-wing talk radio host
 actually say this?

 And what is it with teabaggers and their refusal to spell out
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Sheen Digs a Hole for His Career

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  They should of just gone on without him. Don't punish the others bc the
star is a moron

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 EW just reported that production of Men has been shut down for the
 rest of the season.



Joint statement from CBS and WBTV:

 Based on the totality of Charlie Sheen’s statements, conduct and
condition, CBS and Warner Bros. Television have decided to discontinue
production of *Two and a Half Men* for the remainder of the season.”

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The 'Chase' is over

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I say this with all sincerity, that's unfortunate.  I was just getting into
the cape too.

oh and goodbye to the Chase.

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 NBC's high-energy agents-v-fugitives drama hardly mustered the numbers
 of its lead-in, 'Minute To Win It'... which takes the slot over for
 now...

 http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/02/03/chase-cancelle/

 This after another Peacock product gets its order cut... the now-final
 episode still hasn't been scheduled:

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Yeah, it's social media.

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I don't think it's about validation. more of a conversation starter with
like minded people. or debate with others that aren't.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:19 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote:

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[TV orNotTV] Yeah, it's social media.

[Jason Carpio]

But it seems apt for our little group.

Anyone here use getglue.com for tv check-ins? Think Foursquare for
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Olivia Munn rebounds from her 'Attack'

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G4 is coming off as a jilted boyfriend.


On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:00 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interestingly, aside from acknowledging Munn during the announcement of
 Bailey as her replacement, Munn appears to be *persona non grata* at G4.
  They've removed pretty much all references to her from AOTS and what they
 couldn't remove has been covered up - the standup of Munn 'frozen in
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Mo Netflix Content

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FOX has already added TV content to netflix. Bones, Lie to Me, Archer, Buffy
and Angel are on there.

what's not on there are 20 Century Fox Movies.

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  This does not directly benefit me - my kids are out of the Disney demo
 and I
  don't care for most of the network shows (unless they start streaming
 Modern
  Family). But if it strengthens Netflix' chances of getting more content,
 I
  am all for it.

 Modern Family, which is produced by 20th-Century Fox TV, is streamed
 at abc.com and Hulu.  If 20th makes a deal with Netflix (which I don't
 see, considering that Fox doesn't do VOD and doesn't allow their shows
 to air on CBS and NBC's VOD platforms), then Modern Family would be
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Netflix Price Increase

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I actually went the other way with the plan and am now all digital.  I
didn't really watch my discs all that much.. so this was a perfect solution.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:04 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:

 I got an email from my friends at Netflix today informing me that they were
 raising the price of the Unlimited instant viewing, unlimited (but 1 out at
 a time) disk plan from $8.99 to $9.99. They also rolled out a new plan -
 unlimited instant viewing, no disk viewing - for $7.99.

 I am not complaining, I think it is still a good deal and I am happy with
 the service. They say this is because more and more subscribers want instant
 viewing (I guess meaning that they have fewer subscribers to the multi disk
 at a time plans, and have to spread their fixed costs for shipping disks
 over a smaller base?).

 What is interesting though is the report that the $2.00 spread between the
 two instant viewing plans (one with access to disks, the other not) reflects
 their shipping cost. Of course I suspect they have padded that a bit and are
 making extra profit on the $9.99 plan, banking that most people would rather
 pay the extra buck each month to be able to access the disks. But we would
 need to know more information to tell.

 The email references several times that instant viewing is becoming more
 and more popular, so I hope all of this means that they realize their future
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Hulu Plus Drops Price, Beta Tag

[Jason Carpio]

Can I have an invite sir?

thanks.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Joe Coughlin inturnaro...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hulu Plus is now out of Beta and available to everyone. They've also
 dropped the price from $9.99 to $7.99 and now offer a 1 week free trial.

 On a selfish note, if you plan to test drive it, let me know and I can send
 you an invite and you'd get two weeks free instead of 1 (disclosure: i'd
 also get 2 weeks free, too).

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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: iTunes predictions?

[Jason Carpio]

so it's the apple version of the zune pass?

that would be interesting.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Adam Bowie adam.bo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Definitely a software product of sorts. Not hardware.

 It'll be subscription/cloud based music somehow.


 Adam


 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:07 PM, David Risner da...@risner.org wrote:
  Speculation I've been reading is that they will introduce some sort of
  streaming music service building on the technology they acquired when
  they bought lala.com.
 
  Other speculation is it is just iOS 4.2, but you would think that
  wouldn't warrant saying that it was a day you wouldn't forget, but
  then this is Apple and whatever they copy from someone else, oops, I
  mean, create, is life-changing.
 
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  On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  If you go the Apple website, you are greeted with images of a few
  clocks and the notice to check back later (the clocks show the times
  in various timezones to indicate when, relative to your global
  position, i.e. 7am PST or 9pm KZT). The message states:
 
  Tomorrow is just another day.
  That you'll never forget.
  Check back tomorrow for an exciting announcement from iTunes.
 
  Any guesses what they've got cooking?
  My sincere hope is they will make the iTunes Store global, meaning
  folks in the US would be able to buy UK store media and vice-versa.
  My glib guess is they will offer an apology for wasting everyone's
  time with Ping.
 
  In more personal Apple related news, I was having keyboard and
  trackpad issues on my four-year-old Macbook and went to my local Apple
  store (OK, an authorized Apple retail outlet whose decor roughly
  approximates that of an Apple store, though on a much smaller scale)
  and purchased an external keyboard. And while I am delighted to
  finally own a keyboard with Cyrillic characters, it turns out the
  keyboard wasn't the issue. It is the battery, and the problem is
  common enough that it pops up on many troubleshooting sites.
  Apparently Apple batteries sometimes develop a bulge (don't we all?)
  and press against the trackpad and cause havoc with the keyboard, too.
  Batteries are more expensive than keyboards (and not in stock for
  older models), so I am sans-battery for the time being. I just thought
  I'd mention it in case anyone else experiences similar issues (or in
  case those on this list connected to Apple want to hook a brother up
  with a battery).
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