Re: [TV orNotTV] Fallon has the lowest percentage of guest talk
Professor Winzenburg is an academic, but the paper being cited here is not an academic paper. There is no evidence it was published in any kind of peer-reviewed journal. The paper includes no references or citations of any kind. The description of the methodology used to generate the table is brief, non-specific and incomplete. None of this is really a criticism of Winzenburg - this looks to me like an extended blog post informed by systematic but subjective (which he himself acknowledges in the paper) analysis of a relatively small sample of content from the programs he is discussing. It is, essentially, his opinion. I disagree with Tom in that I am not sure how much value is in the chart with the numbers, and as I say, this is not a published paper (from what I can tell). The most damning thing about the paper is the claim that Jay Leno practiced biting political commentary. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:57 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV tvornottv@googlegroups.com wrote: Here's the prof's analysis - http://www.stephenwinzenburg.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/The_Late_Night_Revolution.18273319.pdf There's a higher percentage of snark within that I would have expected from an academic, even one in media studies. Robert Thompson likely has nothing to worry about from this guy. I really don't recommend that anybody read that paper. A small part of it is his breaking shows down according how much is spent on scripted and unscripted segments. Then he goes show by show and gives his opinions about the hosts. His opinions about the hosts have nothing to do with the numerical analysis, and when I read it, I thought it was a project done by a very young grad (or even undergrad) student and not a communications professor. As an academic publishing a paper, he should at least have gotten in touch with some producers and asked them why they chose to structure their shows the way they do. This was a very poor effort and is of almost no value - the only value is the chart with the numbers. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TV orNotTV] Fallon has the lowest percentage of guest talk
This is according to a study by Steven Wizenburg, a communications professor. The THR piece also covers the percentages for the other hour-long late night programs. Most of them are several percentage points higher than Fallon with the conversation. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/study-jimmy-fallon-spends-time-717565 David -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Fallon has the lowest percentage of guest talk
Here's the prof's analysis - http://www.stephenwinzenburg.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/The_Late_Night_Revolution.18273319.pdf There's a higher percentage of snark within that I would have expected from an academic, even one in media studies. Robert Thompson likely has nothing to worry about from this guy. From: 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV tvornottv@googlegroups.com To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com tvornottv@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:49 PM Subject: [TV orNotTV] Fallon has the lowest percentage of guest talk This is according to a study by Steven Wizenburg, a communications professor. The THR piece also covers the percentages for the other hour-long late night programs. Most of them are several percentage points higher than Fallon with the conversation. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/study-jimmy-fallon-spends-time-717565 David -- -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Fallon has the lowest percentage of guest talk
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:57 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV tvornottv@googlegroups.com wrote: Here's the prof's analysis - http://www.stephenwinzenburg.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/The_Late_Night_Revolution.18273319.pdf There's a higher percentage of snark within that I would have expected from an academic, even one in media studies. Robert Thompson likely has nothing to worry about from this guy. I really don't recommend that anybody read that paper. A small part of it is his breaking shows down according how much is spent on scripted and unscripted segments. Then he goes show by show and gives his opinions about the hosts. His opinions about the hosts have nothing to do with the numerical analysis, and when I read it, I thought it was a project done by a very young grad (or even undergrad) student and not a communications professor. As an academic publishing a paper, he should at least have gotten in touch with some producers and asked them why they chose to structure their shows the way they do. This was a very poor effort and is of almost no value - the only value is the chart with the numbers. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Re: [TV orNotTV] Fallon has the lowest percentage of guest talk
I haven't bothered reading the paper yet but I have met Mr. Winzenberg on a couple of occasions. He teaches at a very small college here in town and, when I dealt with him, he also hosted a weekend radio show on WHO-AM (the former home of Ronnie Reagan). Our interaction was around the time of The Beatles' Anthology project, I was writer and editor for a Beatles video collector's newsletter and his most memorable question to me was what are they really like? - as if I was a personal friend of theirs. --- Original Message --- From : Tom Wolper[mailto:twol...@gmail.com] Sent : 7/10/2014 6:46:34 PM To : tvornottv@googlegroups.com Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [TV orNotTV] Fallon has the lowest percentage of guest talk On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:57 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV tvornottv@googlegroups.com wrote: Here's the prof's analysis - http://www.stephenwinzenburg.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/The_Late_Night_Revolution.18273319.pdf There's a higher percentage of snark within that I would have expected from an academic, even one in media studies. Robert Thompson likely has nothing to worry about from this guy. I really don't recommend that anybody read that paper. A small part of it is his breaking shows down according how much is spent on scripted and unscripted segments. Then he goes show by show and gives his opinions about the hosts. His opinions about the hosts have nothing to do with the numerical analysis, and when I read it, I thought it was a project done by a very young grad (or even undergrad) student and not a communications professor. As an academic publishing a paper, he should at least have gotten in touch with some producers and asked them why they chose to structure their shows the way they do. This was a very poor effort and is of almost no value - the only value is the chart with the numbers. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
