[TV orNotTV] Re: CNN -- Not the Place for Politics

2011-03-24 Thread K.M. Richards
Since Group W has been mentioned, we should pay homage to the all-too-
short lived Satellite News Channel from nearly 30 years ago (has it
really been that long?!?), a joint venture of Group W and ABC which
used its own variation on the you give us 22 minutes ... imaging
liner that Group W made so famous in all-news radio:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_News_Channel

Mark, of course, got HLN's tagline right.

On Mar 23, 1:05 pm, Mark J. mjeffr...@marcrealty.com wrote:
 Amazingly, the comments came up with a good idea--turn HLN back into
 the old news-wheel format (although the commenter was using a
 variation of the Group W radio You give us 22 minutes... slogan
 instead of the correct slogan:  Around the world in 30 minutes, this
 is CNN Headline News).  

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[TV orNotTV] Re: CNN -- Not the Place for Politics

2011-03-24 Thread Mark J.


On Mar 24, 7:29 am, K.M. Richards richard...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since Group W has been mentioned, we should pay homage to the all-too-
 short lived Satellite News Channel from nearly 30 years ago (has it
 really been that long?!?), a joint venture of Group W and ABC which
 used its own variation on the you give us 22 minutes ... imaging
 liner that Group W made so famous in all-news radio:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_News_Channel

 Mark, of course, got HLN's tagline right.

And one vestige of SNC lives on--when ABC took over ESPN, they give
the net the SNC music package, since the channel had such a short life
with little carriage.  They immediately used one of the cuts on the
package as the theme for SportsCenter (which contained the dah-da-
dah-da-da-DAHHH... line that I assume was SNC's primary theme) and
then a few years later switched to another cut from the package which
featured a certain three-note repeated signature--and I don't think I
need to describe that to you any more.  Unfortunately, co-composer
Annie Roboff doesn't see a penny of royalties, since she and her
partner sold off the package to ABC for a flat fee (but considering
she co-wrote the Faith Hill song This Kiss, among other things,
she's not doing bad).

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[TV orNotTV] Re: CNN -- Not the Place for Politics

2011-03-24 Thread donz5
On Mar 23, 6:40 pm, David Lynch djly...@gmail.com wrote:
 The problem I have with CNN is that they have bought into the idea
 that the way to have a view from nowhere approach is to bring in
 guests to express their point of view without any challenge from the
 anchor/reporter/host, no matter how inflammatory or factually
 inaccurate those statements are.

Anderson Cooper has gone against that particular grain by frequently
challenging his satellite guests with facts and figures that
contradict whatever cockamamie bs they've made elsewhere.

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[TV orNotTV] Re: CNN -- Not the Place for Politics

2011-03-23 Thread Mark J.


On Mar 23, 2:28 pm, Wesley McGee wesley.mc...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...MSNBC has that covered. And Fox is 'Fair and Balanced'.

For the record, the current MSNBC slogan is Lean Forward.  Which may
have something to do with their weekend prison docs.  :)

Amazingly, the comments came up with a good idea--turn HLN back into
the old news-wheel format (although the commenter was using a
variation of the Group W radio You give us 22 minutes... slogan
instead of the correct slogan:  Around the world in 30 minutes, this
is CNN Headline News).  Of course, CNN's response will be that Nancy
Grace and Joy Behar do better numbers in prime time and that TV ad
buyers are flummoxed with short-attention-span radio-style formats on
cable TV (see MTV, VH1, TWC, etc.).

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[TV orNotTV] Re: CNN -- Not the Place for Politics

2011-03-23 Thread Dave Sikula
I'd just like to say that I'm tired of MSNBC being depicted as the
liberal channel in contrast to Fox's extreme conservatism. MSNBC has
exactly two liberals (not counting the occasional guest host or
commentator): Rachel and Ed. Everyone else is either conservative,
moderate, or locked into the Beltway mentality.

--Dake Sikula

On Mar 23, 12:40 pm, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is actually a pretty good strategy that amounts to focusing on
 delivering the news. Fox won by suckering CNN into the argument about
 whether or not they had a liberal bias. CNN is better off letting Fox (and
 MSNBC now) argue about partisan ideologies, and trying to regain their
 reputation as a source of serious news.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: CNN -- Not the Place for Politics

2011-03-23 Thread PGage
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'd just like to say that I'm tired of MSNBC being depicted as the
 liberal channel in contrast to Fox's extreme conservatism. MSNBC has
 exactly two liberals (not counting the occasional guest host or
 commentator): Rachel and Ed. Everyone else is either conservative,
 moderate, or locked into the Beltway mentality.


I agree. But what is true is that they have consciously decided to brand
themselves ideologically (accurately or not), and I think that does take
them out of the straight news niche.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: CNN -- Not the Place for Politics

2011-03-23 Thread Wesley McGee
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'd just like to say that I'm tired of MSNBC being depicted as the
 liberal channel in contrast to Fox's extreme conservatism. MSNBC has
 exactly two liberals (not counting the occasional guest host or
 commentator): Rachel and Ed. Everyone else is either conservative,
 moderate, or locked into the Beltway mentality.

 --Dake Sikula


Well, there's somewhat permanent host Cenk Uygur and Lawerence Liberals
Amuse Me, I'm a Socialist O'Donnell [ http://j.mp/ckvpJT ] among the
network's cast of centrists.


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[TV orNotTV] Re: CNN -- Not the Place for Politics

2011-03-23 Thread Mark J.


On Mar 23, 4:20 pm, Wesley McGee wesley.mc...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I'd just like to say that I'm tired of MSNBC being depicted as the
  liberal channel in contrast to Fox's extreme conservatism. MSNBC has
  exactly two liberals (not counting the occasional guest host or
  commentator): Rachel and Ed. Everyone else is either conservative,
  moderate, or locked into the Beltway mentality.

  --Dake Sikula

 Well, there's somewhat permanent host Cenk Uygur and Lawerence Liberals
 Amuse Me, I'm a Socialist O'Donnell [http://j.mp/ckvpJT] among the
 network's cast of centrists.

Didn't Uygur do a show on Air America?  That wasn't exactly a centrist
network.

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