Re: [Twisted-Python] making Screwtape (Tim Allen) a committer
Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > I think we should give screwtape an SVN account and make him an official > reviewer. He's been doing a lot of work on the distutils code which would be > made easier by that, and he's been doing pretty decent reviews. +1 I've been thinking (and occasionally saying) this for months! -Andrew. ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
Re: [Twisted-Python] making Screwtape (Tim Allen) a committer
+2 On 10 Jun 2010, at 00:49, Kevin Horn wrote: > +1 > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Glyph Lefkowitz > wrote: > I think we should give screwtape an SVN account and make him an official > reviewer. He's been doing a lot of work on the distutils code which would be > made easier by that, and he's been doing pretty decent reviews. > > Thoughts? (Feel free to voice any comments off-list, too.) > ___ > Twisted-Python mailing list > Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com > http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python > > ___ > Twisted-Python mailing list > Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com > http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
Re: [Twisted-Python] making Screwtape (Tim Allen) a committer
On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 06:25:05PM -0400, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > I think we should give screwtape an SVN account and make him an > official reviewer. He's been doing a lot of work on the distutils > code which would be made easier by that, and he's been doing pretty > decent reviews. Well, this is a bit of a boost to the ol' ego. :D The reason I've resisted asking for commit access before this is that most of my efforts for Twisted have been either (a) things directly useful for $EMPLOYER's Twisted deployments (such as the distutils changes you mention), or (b) things indirectly useful for the purposes of (a), such as cutting down the review queue to make it more likely that my patches will be reviewed. While my non-work-related contributions are non-zero, they're a lot less than my work-related contributions. That said, I've been following the Twisted project since (checks mailing-list archive) October 2002, and I fully intend to keep contributing reviews at the very least no matter who my employer is at the time. If you still think I'm a good candidate for committership, I'll happily accept. Tim "Screwtape" Allen ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
Re: [Twisted-Python] making Screwtape (Tim Allen) a committer
+1 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > I think we should give screwtape an SVN account and make him an official > reviewer. He's been doing a lot of work on the distutils code which would > be made easier by that, and he's been doing pretty decent reviews. > > Thoughts? (Feel free to voice any comments off-list, too.) > ___ > Twisted-Python mailing list > Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com > http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python > ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
[Twisted-Python] making Screwtape (Tim Allen) a committer
I think we should give screwtape an SVN account and make him an official reviewer. He's been doing a lot of work on the distutils code which would be made easier by that, and he's been doing pretty decent reviews. Thoughts? (Feel free to voice any comments off-list, too.) ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
Re: [Twisted-Python] Dropping Python 2.4 support on Windows after 10.1
On Jun 9, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Ray Cote wrote: > So, one positive vote for removing 2.4 support in Windows. > I prefer your Windows support be focused moving forward to 2.7. Since Ray was the first sponsor of 2010, as well as a silver sponsor - see the AppropriateSolutions logo on the front page of twistedmatrix.com - everybody should read this as if it were spoken in a booming, disembodied voice emanating from Mount Olympus. Goodbye, Windows 2.4 buildslaves! :-) ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
Re: [Twisted-Python] Dropping Python 2.4 support on Windows after 10.1
We have quite a bit of Twisted/Windows code and it has all been ported over to 2.5 or 2.6. I find it easier to upgrade Pythons on Windows since the bulk of our Windows products are shipped as py2exe containing their own interpreter. Cleaner than dealing with CentOS (for example) which has 2.4 in the base install. So, one positive vote for removing 2.4 support in Windows. I prefer your Windows support be focused moving forward to 2.7. --Ray - Original Message - From: exar...@twistedmatrix.com To: twisted-python@twistedmatrix.com Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2010 12:20:30 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Twisted-Python] Dropping Python 2.4 support on Windows after 10.1 Hey all, I would like to propose that after Twisted 10.1 is released, we cease to claim support for Python 2.4 on any version of Windows. This seems reasonable to me considering that Python 2.5 was first released in September of 2006 and that either Windows Python installations can be upgraded easily or very likely no upgrades are possible at all (specifically, no upgrades of Twisted). The motivation for this is that we do not have the hardware resources to continue to test Twisted on Python 2.4 on Windows, particularly considering we will shortly want to begin testing on Python 2.7 on Windows. If Windows/Python 2.4 support is important enough to anyone that they can offer to host the build slaves necessary to continue testing, then I'll withdraw the suggestion. Lastly, I am not proposing dropping Python 2.4 support on any other platform (ie, Debian and Fedora). Jean-Paul ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python -- Ray Cote, President Appropriate Solutions, Inc. We Build Software 603.924.6079 ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
Re: [Twisted-Python] Dropping Python 2.4 support on Windows after 10.1
On Jun 9, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Kevin Horn wrote: > It would be nice to keep it if possible, but if it's a choice between a > buildslave for 2.4 and one for 2.7, then 2.7 really needs to take priority. Well, you can make it possible by volunteering the hardware :). I just don't think we should think about it for very long unless someone is willing to do that. ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
Re: [Twisted-Python] Stackless.py and Twisted
I dont know if twisted can really be counted as a scheduler. Its purpose is more to do with nonblocking IO. To improve IO performance in stackless you would need to add multiplexing to its scheduler(if it doesnt already have it). http://eventlet.net/ seems to to this. Dan On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Andrew Francis wrote: > Hi Folks: > > My talk "Prototyping Go's Select for Stackless with Stackless.py" recently > got accepted to EuroPython. In the talk, I modified stackless.py to support > the Go language's Select statement. I support Select as a method rather than > a Python language feature. Implementing Select turns out to be relatively. > However my original interest in stackless.py was about subclassing the > Twisted Reactor and making it stackless's scheduler. As opposed to running > Twisted in a separate tasklet so an application does not deadlock under > certain edge cases. In part I wanted to experiment with changing the > stackless scheduler in such a way as to improve the performance of IO driven > applications. I am wondering if I would see a speed up if compiled into > pypy-c (unfortunately right now I don't believe the JIT and Stackless are > integrated)? Is this too wild an idea? > > Cheers, > Andrew > > > > > > > ___ > Twisted-Python mailing list > Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com > http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python > ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
Re: [Twisted-Python] Dropping Python 2.4 support on Windows after 10.1
Me 3. Existing apps wont likely care about new features and if they need then upgrade to 2.5 is fully backwards compatible 2010/6/9, Glyph Lefkowitz : > > On Jun 9, 2010, at 12:20 AM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > >> I would like to propose that after Twisted 10.1 is released, we cease to >> claim support for Python 2.4 on any version of Windows. This seems >> reasonable to me considering that Python 2.5 was first released in >> September of 2006 and that either Windows Python installations can be >> upgraded easily or very likely no upgrades are possible at all >> (specifically, no upgrades of Twisted). > > Seconded. -- Nosūtīts no manas mobilās ierīces -- Konrads Smelkovs Applied IT sorcery. ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
Re: [Twisted-Python] Dropping Python 2.4 support on Windows after 10.1
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:20 PM, wrote: > Hey all, > > I would like to propose that after Twisted 10.1 is released, we cease to > claim support for Python 2.4 on any version of Windows. This seems > reasonable to me considering that Python 2.5 was first released in > September of 2006 and that either Windows Python installations can be > upgraded easily or very likely no upgrades are possible at all > (specifically, no upgrades of Twisted). > > The motivation for this is that we do not have the hardware resources to > continue to test Twisted on Python 2.4 on Windows, particularly > considering we will shortly want to begin testing on Python 2.7 on > Windows. If Windows/Python 2.4 support is important enough to anyone > that they can offer to host the build slaves necessary to continue > testing, then I'll withdraw the suggestion. > > Lastly, I am not proposing dropping Python 2.4 support on any other > platform (ie, Debian and Fedora). > > Jean-Paul > > It would be nice to keep it if possible, but if it's a choice between a buildslave for 2.4 and one for 2.7, then 2.7 really needs to take priority. Kevin Horn ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
Re: [Twisted-Python] Dropping Python 2.4 support on Windows after 10.1
On Jun 9, 2010, at 12:20 AM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > I would like to propose that after Twisted 10.1 is released, we cease to > claim support for Python 2.4 on any version of Windows. This seems > reasonable to me considering that Python 2.5 was first released in > September of 2006 and that either Windows Python installations can be > upgraded easily or very likely no upgrades are possible at all > (specifically, no upgrades of Twisted). Seconded.___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
[Twisted-Python] Stackless.py and Twisted
Hi Folks: My talk "Prototyping Go's Select for Stackless with Stackless.py" recently got accepted to EuroPython. In the talk, I modified stackless.py to support the Go language's Select statement. I support Select as a method rather than a Python language feature. Implementing Select turns out to be relatively. However my original interest in stackless.py was about subclassing the Twisted Reactor and making it stackless's scheduler. As opposed to running Twisted in a separate tasklet so an application does not deadlock under certain edge cases. In part I wanted to experiment with changing the stackless scheduler in such a way as to improve the performance of IO driven applications. I am wondering if I would see a speed up if compiled into pypy-c (unfortunately right now I don't believe the JIT and Stackless are integrated)? Is this too wild an idea? Cheers, Andrew ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
