[Twisted-Python] The Future of Twisted.News

2018-04-02 Thread Amber Brown

Hi all,

I thought it would be a good time to raise the topic of twisted.news and 
its future in Twisted.


Currently, t.news has below-Twisted standards of code coverage, 
implementation (with one hge ad-hoc state machine), comments, tests, 
etc. It's also not had any changes to the bulk of its code for 14 years, 
apart from what appears to be code removal 6 years ago and a handful of 
"twisted-wide" mechanical syntax changes. It's also unlikely to ever be 
ported to Python 3 unless someone were to improve the former issues 
(since the port would require 100%-as-possible code coverage).


I propose deprecating twisted.news on the condition that it doesn't have 
a maintainer, and un-deprecating it if a user of the code steps up to 
maintain it and brings it into line (vs one of the current development 
team taking on work keeping an ancient protocol on life support). If 
nobody steps up, then we remove it at the end of the deprecation period 
and encourage any remaining users to either pin to old Twisteds or 
simply vendor the code in their own codebase.


The ticket I have created for this is at 
https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/9405 .


- Amber

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Re: [Twisted-Python] Problem with osx10.10-py2.7 builder

2018-04-02 Thread Adi Roiban
On 27 March 2018 at 23:54, Glyph  wrote:

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> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Glyph wrote:
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> On Mar 26, 2018, at 3:32 AM, Jean-Paul Calderone <
> exar...@twistedmatrix.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Glyph  wrote:
>
> Alternately...
>
> The reason we're doing this at all is that Travis's macOS situation was
> pretty dismal when we last tried it.  But then, the graphs on
> https://www.traviscistatus.com at the time matched that experience:
> routinely there were build queues in the hundreds.  Right now the "Backlog
> macOS Builds for Open Source Projects" shows a completely flat line, zero
> for the last 24 hours.
>
> It might be worth trying out Travis again.
>
>
> FWIW, I moved another project's macOS CI from Travis to CircleCI about a
> month ago because the Travis macOS job queue was so long.  Counting queue
> time, CircleCI finishes those jobs around 6x faster than TravisCI.
>
> Maybe things have improved on Travis but they're still pretty bad.
>
>
> That's a bummer, but thanks for providing the data point.
>
> -g
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> I guess I just needed to look during the PST workday...
>
>
FYI buildbot/osx10.10-py2.7 is broken again


-

Circle-CI is pretty fast, but we are also burning the time pretty fast.
We have used 90% of the time allocated between 19 March of 19 April.

Regards,
-- 
Adi Roiban
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Re: [Twisted-Python] Problem with osx10.10-py2.7 builder

2018-04-02 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:01 AM, Adi Roiban  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On 25 March 2018 at 05:14, Craig Rodrigues  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can someone check this builder:
> >
> > https://buildbot.twistedmatrix.com/builders/osx10.10-py2.7
> >
> > It is failing randomly in weird ways during builds.  For example,
> > in some cases it fails to install tox.  In other cases, the tests
> terminate
> > in
> > some random spot.
>
> I will try and take a look at it.
>
> If someone knows more about the slave running this build, please add
> the info on wiki at:
>
> https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/ContinuousIntegration/Buildslaves
>


Where is this MacOS builder?  Is it in Rackspace, some cloud provider, or
other?

--
Craig
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