Re: [Twisted-Python] Python 3.3 buildslaves

2014-09-29 Thread Glyph 

On Sep 14, 2014, at 5:09 PM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I noticed that https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/7355 is a blocker
> for the release of Twisted 14.1 and #7355 is blocked Python 3.3 buildbot
> configuration/availability issues.
> 
> Who can look at why one of the Python 3.3 slaves is offline and why
> the two slaves are configured differently?

The configuration of the two slaves has been made consistent, and I have 
reviewed and landed the relevant ticket.

At long last, that particular square on the build matrix is green.

-glyph


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Re: [Twisted-Python] Python 3.3 buildslaves

2014-09-26 Thread exarkun 

On 08:26 am, a...@roiban.ro wrote:


I think that it would be nice to have some process to initiate new
contributors to the whole review process and once one or more
senior-reviewers consider that the new contributors is good to do
reviews by itself, to give him commit privileges.


+1

Jean-Paul

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Re: [Twisted-Python] Python 3.3 buildslaves

2014-09-26 Thread Adi Roiban 
On 15 September 2014 07:38, Glyph  wrote:
[snip]

> Special privileges are required because one of the aspects of buildslave 
> maintenance is cloud control panel access to the cloud providers that 
> maintain this hardware, which, if abused, could end up billing the non-profit 
> which manages Twisted's funds an unlimited amount of money.  The buildbots 
> are also managed via shell accounts, which could of course be used to deploy 
> malware.
>
> If you are interested in helping to perform maintenance on the buildslaves, 
> access to those permissions could be arranged for you.  It had not occurred 
> to me to ask you before, because if I recall correctly, you'd refused commit 
> privileges when they were offered in the past.
>
> -glyph
Sorry for the delay.

I would like to help the Twisted project in any way... including with
buildslave maintenance. I think that at this level I only need ssh
access.



I refused commit privileges as  I wanted to contribute more patches
and do more reviews as a read-only contributors, before starting to
mess with Twisted repo.

I think that it would be nice to have some process to initiate new
contributors to the whole review process and once one or more
senior-reviewers consider that the new contributors is good to do
reviews by itself, to give him commit privileges.

Cheers,

-- 
Adi Roiban

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Re: [Twisted-Python] Python 3.3 buildslaves

2014-09-15 Thread HawkOwl 

On 15 Sep 2014, at 14:16, Glyph  wrote:

> On Sep 14, 2014, at 5:09 PM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I noticed that https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/7355 is a blocker
>> for the release of Twisted 14.1 and #7355 is blocked Python 3.3 buildbot
>> configuration/availability issues.
> 
> Thank you for (specifically) bringing this up and (generally) getting the 
> 14.1 blockers cleared out. I'm beginning to notice a concerted effort :-).

Thanks, exarkun, Glyph, as well as the others which have helped fix tickets and 
help things along for the 14.1 release — it’s not going to be long before I can 
get 14.1pre1 gracing all your hard drives!  <3

-hawkowl


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Re: [Twisted-Python] Python 3.3 buildslaves

2014-09-14 Thread Glyph 

On Sep 14, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Adi Roiban  wrote:

> On 15 September 2014 01:09,   wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I noticed that https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/7355 is a blocker
>> for the release of Twisted 14.1 and #7355 is blocked Python 3.3 buildbot
>> configuration/availability issues.
>> 
>> Who can look at why one of the Python 3.3 slaves is offline and why
>> the two slaves are configured differently?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jean-Paul
> 
> I would llike to help, but I don't know if I have the permission to do it.
> 
> In the past, I took a look at how buildbots are configured, and I
> discovered that there are a lot of customizations and that there is a
> separate repo/process for updating the buildbots and that special
> privileges are required to touch the buildslaves.

Special privileges are required because one of the aspects of buildslave 
maintenance is cloud control panel access to the cloud providers that maintain 
this hardware, which, if abused, could end up billing the non-profit which 
manages Twisted's funds an unlimited amount of money.  The buildbots are also 
managed via shell accounts, which could of course be used to deploy malware.

If you are interested in helping to perform maintenance on the buildslaves, 
access to those permissions could be arranged for you.  It had not occurred to 
me to ask you before, because if I recall correctly, you'd refused commit 
privileges when they were offered in the past.

-glyph


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Re: [Twisted-Python] Python 3.3 buildslaves

2014-09-14 Thread Glyph 
On Sep 14, 2014, at 5:09 PM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I noticed that https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/7355 is a blocker
> for the release of Twisted 14.1 and #7355 is blocked Python 3.3 buildbot
> configuration/availability issues.

Thank you for (specifically) bringing this up and (generally) getting the 14.1 
blockers cleared out. I'm beginning to notice a concerted effort :-).

> Who can look at why one of the Python 3.3 slaves is offline and why
> the two slaves are configured differently?

I've been gradually accumulating the various credentials that I need for 
maintaining all the buildbots.  On my to-do list is centralizing and 
documenting how all of these are maintained to make it a bit less obscure.  It 
may surprise you that you personally actually have access to those credentials! 
 For the time being I've sent you a separate personal message explaining how 
you might get access to it, although I apologize that that's as good as we can 
do right now.

This isn't exactly blocked by the following ticket, but filing this is the last 
thing I did while trying to figure out the Python 3 buildbot situation:



I will probably have another look at this tomorrow whether it's fixed or not, 
but I certainly wouldn't mind if some other folks bumped that ticket and 
politely reminded the Fedora infrastructure team that invalid certs are a 
pretty serious operational issue.

-glyph

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Re: [Twisted-Python] Python 3.3 buildslaves

2014-09-14 Thread Adi Roiban 
On 15 September 2014 01:09,   wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I noticed that https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/7355 is a blocker
> for the release of Twisted 14.1 and #7355 is blocked Python 3.3 buildbot
> configuration/availability issues.
>
> Who can look at why one of the Python 3.3 slaves is offline and why
> the two slaves are configured differently?
>
> Thanks,
> Jean-Paul

I would llike to help, but I don't know if I have the permission to do it.

In the past, I took a look at how buildbots are configured, and I
discovered that there are a lot of customizations and that there is a
separate repo/process for updating the buildbots and that special
privileges are required to touch the buildslaves.



>From my point of view, #7355 is a simple ticket and the fact that it
took 4 months and it is still not merged should raise some serious
concerns regarding the sustainability of the current Twisted
development process.

-- 
Adi Roiban

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[Twisted-Python] Python 3.3 buildslaves

2014-09-14 Thread exarkun 

Hello,

I noticed that https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/7355 is a blocker
for the release of Twisted 14.1 and #7355 is blocked Python 3.3 buildbot
configuration/availability issues.

Who can look at why one of the Python 3.3 slaves is offline and why
the two slaves are configured differently?

Thanks,
Jean-Paul

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