[twitter-dev] Re: MyTwitterButler.com Legal issues Update 2
h, there's been a lot of noise about trademark, my previous comment a few days ago about 'first used in commerce' was to the effect that they aren't actually trading anything - of couse I'm no atty or even expert but I understand that if you aren't actually commencing in commerce for trade using a mark then you're really squatting on a name, and it's unlikely to register such mark for trade with the USG. even if you have loads of VC so ... what exactly are they selling and in what market? if they let their previous app lapse I'm **guessing** they ran into this kind of chicken-and-egg trouble. but the thing is, what you've posted here says nothing about trademark, they're talking about TOS and your accounts and behavior. they are claiming 'intellectual property' to the name, which is arguable i suppose. I'm not exactly sure why you'd register such a domain in the first place, or at least go public about being upset and paranoid when they send you letters of intimidation ... but that's your game i suppose. they can definitely shut you down and block access to your software, and they can lay out the money to attempt to get the domain revoked, but if they don't have a valid trademark registered i'm not sure they're going to sue you personally, it would be a risky battle in my opinion. and if you happen to only have two nickles to rub together what would be the point? I think at this stage it's about intimidation, and if you choose to fight it it's a losing battle and waste of time for you IMHO. have a fantastic day. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Dean Collins wrote: > Sorry Duane, This is the first time I've ever had legal action in any of > the internet website projects I've worked on. > > > > I now know the difference. > > > > Twitter inc sent MyTwitterButler a cease and desist notice to comply with > the following; > > > > > > > > with the threat of cancellation of all my twitter accounts and possible > legal action to enforce their intellectual property rights. > > > > As for the ‘my characterization of the events’….would you like to listen to > the phone call? > > > > (and yes the lawyer knows they were being recorded – all of my calls both > inbound and outbound get recorded to my Trixbox asterisk ip-pbx). > > > > > > Regards, > > Dean Collins > d...@mytwitterbutler.com > +1-212-203-4357 New York > +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). > +44-20-3129-6001 (London in-dial). > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto: > twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Duane Roelands > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 7:44 PM > To: Twitter Development Talk > Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: MyTwitterButler.com Legal issues Update 2 > > > > > > I'm afraid I'm not willing to accept Dean's characterization of events > > since he's been lying from the get go (e.g. claiming "Twitter's suing > > me" when nothing of the kind was happening). I give no credibility to > > those who practice deception in order to win people to their cause. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 14, 7:31 pm, Dewald Pretorius wrote: > > > Unless something drastic changes in their approach, I think we as a > > > developer community should all rise and give them a standing ovation > > > for a brilliant performance in pissing people off. > -- \./'\./ /'\ \ ]. /'\./'\ /'\ /'\./ <>
[twitter-dev] Re: FW: Twitter is Suing me!!!
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Scott Haneda wrote: > > I am not a lawyer, but everything I have read about this makes the below > impossible. If you have a trademark on a name, you MUST protect it. > Failure to protect it, results in loss of the mark. > > The quote below, clearly states that Twitter is not going to protect this > mark. That being the case, they will lose the mark, making the filing and > costs associated with it a complete waste. > > yeah me no atty neither. lol. wonder what they put for 'mark first used in commerce' - maybe in the future? ;-) -- \./'\./ /'\ \ ]. /'\./'\ /'\ /'\./
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter API is unresponsive, can we crawl the twitter.com website?
hmmm, maybe. i honestly wasn't trying to suggest a 'bad idea' was actually good, but i was just reading through recent messages, trying to make some sense out of it all, and realized that I first heard of twitter pretty early on a radio broadcast. that was mostly an advertisement. twitter was still a baby. I was an early adopter. I created my account right away just to see how great it was. anyhow, it just occurred to me the question of why we are talking about this on this old-fashion google thing and not twitter... and i think the answer is this: "it's a numbers game". and it has always been. and of course this makes no sense whatsoever, it's not suppose to. that's exactly what that kind of response means. just a thought. On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Abraham Williams <4bra...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm going to say it is a good way to get your app/IP permanently banned > from Twitter. > > Abraham > > 2009/8/9 avail4one > > I think it's ok to go for it, what does everyone else think? >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Tim Haines wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> This is probably a very dumb question, but I thought I'd ask it >>> anyway. >>> >>> I run http://favstar.fm, and I can't call the API more than 60 or so >>> times an hour at the moment (or something in that region). My worthy >>> competitor http://favotter.matope.com remains uneffected though, and >>> has been able to continue his fav crawling uninterrupted. >>> >>> Would it be okay to start taking a peek at some of the more popular >>> user's pages on twitter.com, and crawl their favorites from there >>> rather than using the api? I guess this assumes my IP wouldn't get >>> blocked as it seems to be by the API. >>> >>> Dumb question right? Curious to hear. >>> >>> Tim. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> \./'\./ /'\ \ ]. /'\./'\ /'\ /'\./ >> > > > > -- > Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org > Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham > Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com > This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. > -- \./'\./ /'\ \ ]. /'\./'\ /'\ /'\./
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter API is unresponsive, can we crawl the twitter.com website?
I think it's ok to go for it, what does everyone else think? On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Tim Haines wrote: > > Hi there, > > This is probably a very dumb question, but I thought I'd ask it > anyway. > > I run http://favstar.fm, and I can't call the API more than 60 or so > times an hour at the moment (or something in that region). My worthy > competitor http://favotter.matope.com remains uneffected though, and > has been able to continue his fav crawling uninterrupted. > > Would it be okay to start taking a peek at some of the more popular > user's pages on twitter.com, and crawl their favorites from there > rather than using the api? I guess this assumes my IP wouldn't get > blocked as it seems to be by the API. > > Dumb question right? Curious to hear. > > Tim. > > > -- \./'\./ /'\ \ ]. /'\./'\ /'\ /'\./
[twitter-dev] Re: Quick poll: Can anyone do anything on twitter.com?
Did you try Internet Explorer? On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:22 AM, dean.j.robinson wrote: > > 99.9% of login attempts simply don't work at all in Firefox 3.5, they > just redirects to blank https://twitter.com/sessions page > If by some fluke it does actually login I can't logout to change > accounts. > > Logins work in Safari, but posting statuses only does occasionally, > I've tried to update a profile picture earlier, selected my image, hit > save... waited... nothing... came back and hour later and the page was > still trying to load. > > Logouts won't work in safari either. "Safari can’t open the page > “https://twitter.com/logout” because the server unexpectedly dropped > the connection. This sometimes occurs when the server is busy. Wait > for a few minutes, and then try again." - I've been trying since > thursday. > > paging works... sometimes > search works... sometimes > > My oauth app was working fine until I wanted to logout and change > users... now I can't reauthorize/relogin > > @$%$ those morons who thought it was a good idea to attack that one > random dude in Georgia cause this whole mess. -- \./'\./ /'\ \ ]. /'\./'\ /'\ /'\./
[twitter-dev] Re: Filter Profanity
hmmm you wanna dump random content your robot found on the internet on kids and hope your stuff doesn't scare the crap out of grandma? it would probably be just as interesting and profitable to block human visitors and instead use random roboreader bots. then it would be totally-fully-automated. $Id: roboreader.html,v 1.24 2008/01/06 12:31:07 whistlek Exp whistlek $ This robot will read a web page at a specified URL, registering one unique visitor to your web site. command line options: --- r follow links and read entire site recursively --- w X wait X seconds pretending to read the page before following any links --- x randomize wait to make it seem more like it's a real human --- z X send output to alternative directory X (instead of /dev/null, the default. useful if you are already sending your mail to /dev/null and don't want to cross the streams) --- G randomly click on moomle ads. @twitshawnna: Holy Jesus Christ, you should have seen the amazing creampie my husband gave me last night. @twatmarie: oh yeah, i bet he thanks the lord every night that you got that new job as a fluffer. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM, ferodynamics wrote: > > > > No, you have to do this client side. Also, cussbusting is pretty fricking > > hard. > > > > -- > > personal: > http://www.cameronkaiser.com/-- > > Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems *www.floodgap.com* > ckai...@floodgap.com > > -- The only thing to fear is fearlessness -- R. E. M. > - > > And they find all kinds of unpredictable variations, for whatever > reason, even if it's just because they can't spell. If you find > someone offensive, potentially offensive, unfollow them. -- \./'\./ /'\ \ ]. /'\./'\ /'\ /'\./
