[twitter-dev] Re: About update limits
Pardon, I'd just like to follow-up on my question in case it was missed. I'm fine with not knowing what the precise sub-limits are, but can I at least ask why the specifics aren't made public? I just need to be able to respond with something in case our client asks... It'll be easier for them to swallow the idea that it's a twitter policy if we can explain the reason why the policy exists. On Apr 29, 4:45 pm, Brian Sutorius bsutor...@twitter.com wrote: To clarify, statuses/update is not affected by rate-limit whitelisting as it's a POST call and we don't maintain a separate whitelist for boosting the daily tweet limit above 1000. While we do not give out the specifics around the sub-limits, they *are* administered on a per-account basis and if you stay around your approximation of 20 tweets per half-hour you should be fine. Brian Sutorius On Apr 29, 6:07 am, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: the numbers are roughly broken up over the day. and the limit applies to an account. and yes - there is a whitelisting for status/updates -- please e-mail a...@twitter to ask for it. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:26 AM, akaii chibiak...@gmail.com wrote: This is what the FAQ has to say about status update limits: Updates: 1,000 per day. The daily update limit is further broken down into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Retweets are counted as updates. I'm a little unclear as to what exactly is meant by further broken down into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Is the 1000 per day limit divided evenly between the 48 half hours each day (around 20 or so tweets per half an hour?). Also, I'm assuming this limit applies to each unique account? Is this limit absolutely fixed? Or is there some equivalent to whitelisting for status/update limits as well? Thanks... -- Raffi Krikorian Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/raffi
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: About update limits
As a general rule, whenever Twitter is cagey about limits, it's due to anti-abuse reasons. It's not in the interest of fighting abuse, and thus the community as a whole, to talk about certain limits. Also, some limits are subject to continuous or unannounced adjustment, so they're not practical to make public. This issue has been aired before, at length, on this list. Please save your emails, as there's little chance that rhetoric will persuade the abuse people to go against data that show that the current policy is, unfortunately, the best policy. -John Kalucki http://twitter.com/jkalucki Infrastructure, Twitter Inc. On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 7:33 AM, akaii chibiak...@gmail.com wrote: Pardon, I'd just like to follow-up on my question in case it was missed. I'm fine with not knowing what the precise sub-limits are, but can I at least ask why the specifics aren't made public? I just need to be able to respond with something in case our client asks... It'll be easier for them to swallow the idea that it's a twitter policy if we can explain the reason why the policy exists. On Apr 29, 4:45 pm, Brian Sutorius bsutor...@twitter.com wrote: To clarify, statuses/update is not affected by rate-limit whitelisting as it's a POST call and we don't maintain a separate whitelist for boosting the daily tweet limit above 1000. While we do not give out the specifics around the sub-limits, they *are* administered on a per-account basis and if you stay around your approximation of 20 tweets per half-hour you should be fine. Brian Sutorius On Apr 29, 6:07 am, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: the numbers are roughly broken up over the day. and the limit applies to an account. and yes - there is a whitelisting for status/updates -- please e-mail a...@twitter to ask for it. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:26 AM, akaii chibiak...@gmail.com wrote: This is what the FAQ has to say about status update limits: Updates: 1,000 per day. The daily update limit is further broken down into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Retweets are counted as updates. I'm a little unclear as to what exactly is meant by further broken down into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Is the 1000 per day limit divided evenly between the 48 half hours each day (around 20 or so tweets per half an hour?). Also, I'm assuming this limit applies to each unique account? Is this limit absolutely fixed? Or is there some equivalent to whitelisting for status/update limits as well? Thanks... -- Raffi Krikorian Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/raffi
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: About update limits
Large recruitment consultancies seem to get very close to that limit, tweeting out details of vacancies. Can be quite useful to follow for a short while. On 30 April 2010 01:40, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: I can't think of a use or requirement that would need more than 1,000 tweets per day. Unless you're promoting teeth whitening affiliate links that absolutely must be sent at a rate of one tweet every 30 seconds, because we all know how quickly the teeth of some followers turn yellow. On Apr 29, 8:45 pm, Brian Sutorius bsutor...@twitter.com wrote: To clarify, statuses/update is not affected by rate-limit whitelisting as it's a POST call and we don't maintain a separate whitelist for boosting the daily tweet limit above 1000. While we do not give out the specifics around the sub-limits, they *are* administered on a per-account basis and if you stay around your approximation of 20 tweets per half-hour you should be fine. Brian Sutorius On Apr 29, 6:07 am, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: the numbers are roughly broken up over the day. and the limit applies to an account. and yes - there is a whitelisting for status/updates -- please e-mail a...@twitter to ask for it. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:26 AM, akaii chibiak...@gmail.com wrote: This is what the FAQ has to say about status update limits: Updates: 1,000 per day. The daily update limit is further broken down into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Retweets are counted as updates. I'm a little unclear as to what exactly is meant by further broken down into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Is the 1000 per day limit divided evenly between the 48 half hours each day (around 20 or so tweets per half an hour?). Also, I'm assuming this limit applies to each unique account? Is this limit absolutely fixed? Or is there some equivalent to whitelisting for status/update limits as well? Thanks... -- Raffi Krikorian Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/raffi
[twitter-dev] Re: About update limits
Thanks for all the replies so far. Just to clarify, we probably won't be hitting the limit, but I need to be able to explain the existence of the limit to our clients, and part of that includes being able to explain to them the details behind how the limit is applied. Personally, I'm perfectly satisfied with not knowing what the precise sub-limit is, but to be on the safe side, can I at least ask why the info isn't publicly available? For example, could it be because the limit isn't actually a fixed rate but a dynamic one subject to change depending on the circumstances? I need to know just in case I'm asked why I can't get these details. Can I ask further details about status/update limit whitelisting here, or should I mail a...@twitter directly about it? I assume that apps are added to the whitelist on some case-to-case combination of both the needs of the app, and the popularity/usage of the app? Am I correct to assume that new apps are generally not added to the whitelist until they've build up a substantial user-base? On Apr 30, 12:14 am, Nigel Legg nigel.l...@gmail.com wrote: Large recruitment consultancies seem to get very close to that limit, tweeting out details of vacancies. Can be quite useful to follow for a short while. On 30 April 2010 01:40, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: I can't think of a use or requirement that would need more than 1,000 tweets per day. Unless you're promoting teeth whitening affiliate links that absolutely must be sent at a rate of one tweet every 30 seconds, because we all know how quickly the teeth of some followers turn yellow. On Apr 29, 8:45 pm, Brian Sutorius bsutor...@twitter.com wrote: To clarify, statuses/update is not affected by rate-limit whitelisting as it's a POST call and we don't maintain a separate whitelist for boosting the daily tweet limit above 1000. While we do not give out the specifics around the sub-limits, they *are* administered on a per-account basis and if you stay around your approximation of 20 tweets per half-hour you should be fine. Brian Sutorius On Apr 29, 6:07 am, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: the numbers are roughly broken up over the day. and the limit applies to an account. and yes - there is a whitelisting for status/updates -- please e-mail a...@twitter to ask for it. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:26 AM, akaii chibiak...@gmail.com wrote: This is what the FAQ has to say about status update limits: Updates: 1,000 per day. The daily update limit is further broken down into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Retweets are counted as updates. I'm a little unclear as to what exactly is meant by further broken down into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Is the 1000 per day limit divided evenly between the 48 half hours each day (around 20 or so tweets per half an hour?). Also, I'm assuming this limit applies to each unique account? Is this limit absolutely fixed? Or is there some equivalent to whitelisting for status/update limits as well? Thanks... -- Raffi Krikorian Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/raffi
[twitter-dev] Re: About update limits
Hello Raffi, and yes - there is a whitelisting for status/updates -- please e-mail a...@twitter to ask for it. I don't have permissions so I can't post their name, but a friend of mine sent such a request and received this response: Thank you for writing in. Sorry for any confusion, but API whitelisting does not cover the statuses/update call, as this call is a POST method. All Twitter accounts are subject to the same 1000 tweets per day limit. We also do not have a specific limit status call for remaining tweets, but I will pass this along to our engineers as a feature request. I apologize for the inconvenience that this causes to you and your team. Thanks, Brian Seems to be conflicting with the previous statement, so I'm not sure what to make of it. Best Regards, Chris White
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: About update limits
yeah - i was mistaken. i'm just a lowly engineer :P sutorius (the brian referenced on that e-mail, and he has posted in this forum before) knows best in this case. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Chris White chris.chriswh...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Raffi, and yes - there is a whitelisting for status/updates -- please e-mail a...@twitter to ask for it. I don't have permissions so I can't post their name, but a friend of mine sent such a request and received this response: Thank you for writing in. Sorry for any confusion, but API whitelisting does not cover the statuses/update call, as this call is a POST method. All Twitter accounts are subject to the same 1000 tweets per day limit. We also do not have a specific limit status call for remaining tweets, but I will pass this along to our engineers as a feature request. I apologize for the inconvenience that this causes to you and your team. Thanks, Brian Seems to be conflicting with the previous statement, so I'm not sure what to make of it. Best Regards, Chris White -- Raffi Krikorian Twitter Platform Team http://twitter.com/raffi
[twitter-dev] Re: About update limits
Hello Raffi, yeah - i was mistaken. i'm just a lowly engineer :P sutorius (the brian referenced on that e-mail, and he has posted in this forum before) knows best in this case. Yikes, just saw that mentioned post. I'd like to help gather some ideas with a few other twitter developers, and would like to know what is stopping status updates from increased right now? The intention here is not to complain, but simply to help figure out how to improve the situation and understand better the issues that you folks know about that application developers don't. Best Regards, Chris White
[twitter-dev] Re: About update limits
To clarify, statuses/update is not affected by rate-limit whitelisting as it's a POST call and we don't maintain a separate whitelist for boosting the daily tweet limit above 1000. While we do not give out the specifics around the sub-limits, they *are* administered on a per-account basis and if you stay around your approximation of 20 tweets per half-hour you should be fine. Brian Sutorius On Apr 29, 6:07 am, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: the numbers are roughly broken up over the day. and the limit applies to an account. and yes - there is a whitelisting for status/updates -- please e-mail a...@twitter to ask for it. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:26 AM, akaii chibiak...@gmail.com wrote: This is what the FAQ has to say about status update limits: Updates: 1,000 per day. The daily update limit is further broken down into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Retweets are counted as updates. I'm a little unclear as to what exactly is meant by further broken down into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Is the 1000 per day limit divided evenly between the 48 half hours each day (around 20 or so tweets per half an hour?). Also, I'm assuming this limit applies to each unique account? Is this limit absolutely fixed? Or is there some equivalent to whitelisting for status/update limits as well? Thanks... -- Raffi Krikorian Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/raffi
[twitter-dev] Re: About update limits
I can't think of a use or requirement that would need more than 1,000 tweets per day. Unless you're promoting teeth whitening affiliate links that absolutely must be sent at a rate of one tweet every 30 seconds, because we all know how quickly the teeth of some followers turn yellow. On Apr 29, 8:45 pm, Brian Sutorius bsutor...@twitter.com wrote: To clarify, statuses/update is not affected by rate-limit whitelisting as it's a POST call and we don't maintain a separate whitelist for boosting the daily tweet limit above 1000. While we do not give out the specifics around the sub-limits, they *are* administered on a per-account basis and if you stay around your approximation of 20 tweets per half-hour you should be fine. Brian Sutorius On Apr 29, 6:07 am, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: the numbers are roughly broken up over the day. and the limit applies to an account. and yes - there is a whitelisting for status/updates -- please e-mail a...@twitter to ask for it. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:26 AM, akaii chibiak...@gmail.com wrote: This is what the FAQ has to say about status update limits: Updates: 1,000 per day. The daily update limit is further broken down into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Retweets are counted as updates. I'm a little unclear as to what exactly is meant by further broken down into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Is the 1000 per day limit divided evenly between the 48 half hours each day (around 20 or so tweets per half an hour?). Also, I'm assuming this limit applies to each unique account? Is this limit absolutely fixed? Or is there some equivalent to whitelisting for status/update limits as well? Thanks... -- Raffi Krikorian Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/raffi
