[twitter-dev] Re: Anti Spam

2009-05-20 Thread sillyt...@googlemail.com

Very true and exactly what we plan to do, although when summed up you
find that a scoring system is best handled on a server and not a
client, i.e. Twitter Search. In the mean time we've got enough things
we can do real-time in javascript for our 'filtered' feed.

In our case we're dealing with events/trending topics which can have
large amounts of data so run-time web app processing time becomes an
issue.

On May 19, 2:49 pm, Abraham Williams <4bra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 06:06, sillyt...@googlemail.com <
>
> I know these are just examples but both of those metrics are available to
> you and nothing is stopping you from restricting data from accounts based on
> those metrics.
>
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[twitter-dev] Re: Anti Spam

2009-05-19 Thread Abraham Williams
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 06:06, sillyt...@googlemail.com <
sillyt...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> For example, a new user would have a higher 'spam-rating' than a long
> time user. Someone with a huge follow:follower ratio similarly. Given
> how spam is used on Twitter, there are several categories which could
> be dealt with at run-time on a server but less easily on a live
> application.
>

I know these are just examples but both of those metrics are available to
you and nothing is stopping you from restricting data from accounts based on
those metrics.

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[twitter-dev] Re: Anti Spam

2009-05-19 Thread Paul Kinlan
Hi Guys,

I developed http://www.itsabot.com, which was designed to detect twitter
bots.  I am happy to open this up as a larger project if people want - and
move it into an open source project with spam accounts, not just bots.

Paul

2009/5/19 sillyt...@googlemail.com 

>
> We had a chat about Twitter spam yesterday and would like a points
> based approach to user ranking or spam rating. For those of us working
> on 3rd party applications, having a spam score to be able to make
> quick decisions on with regard to searches would be very useful.
>
> For example, a new user would have a higher 'spam-rating' than a long
> time user. Someone with a huge follow:follower ratio similarly. Given
> how spam is used on Twitter, there are several categories which could
> be dealt with at run-time on a server but less easily on a live
> application.
>
> BTW I worry that to join the abuse team one has to "have what it
> takes". Does that mean they hand out large amounts of abuse ?-)
>
> On May 18, 7:12 pm, Doug Williams  wrote:
> > We have a team dedicated to controlling the number of spam messages and
> > accounts in the system. The number of accounts, sophistication, and
> > techniques are constantly growing. The team is doing a great job of
> > isolating known attack vectors. Obviously there is still work to be
> > done. The abuse team is hiring. If you think you have what it takes,
> please
> > apply:http://twitter.com/jobs
> > Thanks,
> > Doug
> > --
> >
> > Doug Williams
> > Twitter Platform Supporthttp://twitter.com/dougw
> >
> > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, sillyt...@googlemail.com <
> >
> > sillyt...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm working as part of the #twumpet team and as part of our project
> > > we're developing an application as well as running some Twitter events
> > > - the first having been Eurovision earlier today.
> >
> > > As we hit the top trend, #twumpet got - and is still getting -
> > > enormous amounts of spam. Spammers are signing up, blitzing messages
> > > through one immediately after another, and then moving on to the next
> > > account.
> >
> > > Does anyone know if Twitter are going to stop users firing tweets off
> > > one after another so blatently like this? I just checked on a couple
> > > of top trends and all I can see is spammers tonight.
> >
> > > Also, as a developer working on a project which will be dealing with
> > > trending topics and popular searches, I need a quick way to throw out
> > > spam messages.
> >
> > > I have a couple of ideas for strategies but would be interested in
> > > discussing them, and perhaps a group effort which used Twitter itself
> > > for rapid short term spam classification & reporting [through Twitter
> > > search or a further API]. The one thing about spammers is they appear
> > > and disappear extremely quickly so any lists would be very short and
> > > 'live', at least for now...
> >
> > > @newretro
>


[twitter-dev] Re: Anti Spam

2009-05-19 Thread sillyt...@googlemail.com

We had a chat about Twitter spam yesterday and would like a points
based approach to user ranking or spam rating. For those of us working
on 3rd party applications, having a spam score to be able to make
quick decisions on with regard to searches would be very useful.

For example, a new user would have a higher 'spam-rating' than a long
time user. Someone with a huge follow:follower ratio similarly. Given
how spam is used on Twitter, there are several categories which could
be dealt with at run-time on a server but less easily on a live
application.

BTW I worry that to join the abuse team one has to "have what it
takes". Does that mean they hand out large amounts of abuse ?-)

On May 18, 7:12 pm, Doug Williams  wrote:
> We have a team dedicated to controlling the number of spam messages and
> accounts in the system. The number of accounts, sophistication, and
> techniques are constantly growing. The team is doing a great job of
> isolating known attack vectors. Obviously there is still work to be
> done. The abuse team is hiring. If you think you have what it takes, please
> apply:http://twitter.com/jobs
> Thanks,
> Doug
> --
>
> Doug Williams
> Twitter Platform Supporthttp://twitter.com/dougw
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, sillyt...@googlemail.com <
>
> sillyt...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm working as part of the #twumpet team and as part of our project
> > we're developing an application as well as running some Twitter events
> > - the first having been Eurovision earlier today.
>
> > As we hit the top trend, #twumpet got - and is still getting -
> > enormous amounts of spam. Spammers are signing up, blitzing messages
> > through one immediately after another, and then moving on to the next
> > account.
>
> > Does anyone know if Twitter are going to stop users firing tweets off
> > one after another so blatently like this? I just checked on a couple
> > of top trends and all I can see is spammers tonight.
>
> > Also, as a developer working on a project which will be dealing with
> > trending topics and popular searches, I need a quick way to throw out
> > spam messages.
>
> > I have a couple of ideas for strategies but would be interested in
> > discussing them, and perhaps a group effort which used Twitter itself
> > for rapid short term spam classification & reporting [through Twitter
> > search or a further API]. The one thing about spammers is they appear
> > and disappear extremely quickly so any lists would be very short and
> > 'live', at least for now...
>
> > @newretro


[twitter-dev] Re: Anti Spam

2009-05-18 Thread Doug Williams
We have a team dedicated to controlling the number of spam messages and
accounts in the system. The number of accounts, sophistication, and
techniques are constantly growing. The team is doing a great job of
isolating known attack vectors. Obviously there is still work to be
done. The abuse team is hiring. If you think you have what it takes, please
apply: http://twitter.com/jobs
Thanks,
Doug
--

Doug Williams
Twitter Platform Support
http://twitter.com/dougw




On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, sillyt...@googlemail.com <
sillyt...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
> I'm working as part of the #twumpet team and as part of our project
> we're developing an application as well as running some Twitter events
> - the first having been Eurovision earlier today.
>
> As we hit the top trend, #twumpet got - and is still getting -
> enormous amounts of spam. Spammers are signing up, blitzing messages
> through one immediately after another, and then moving on to the next
> account.
>
> Does anyone know if Twitter are going to stop users firing tweets off
> one after another so blatently like this? I just checked on a couple
> of top trends and all I can see is spammers tonight.
>
> Also, as a developer working on a project which will be dealing with
> trending topics and popular searches, I need a quick way to throw out
> spam messages.
>
> I have a couple of ideas for strategies but would be interested in
> discussing them, and perhaps a group effort which used Twitter itself
> for rapid short term spam classification & reporting [through Twitter
> search or a further API]. The one thing about spammers is they appear
> and disappear extremely quickly so any lists would be very short and
> 'live', at least for now...
>
> @newretro
>