[twitter-dev] Re: Clarification on how @ messages and PM's are handled - PLEASE HELP

2009-06-24 Thread Abraham Williams

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 16:12, Nicholas S wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I would very much appreciate the groups help on this. I work for a
> local city government in Florida and we are trying to look into using
> Twitter to help make government more transparent and engaged with our
> community. BUT I need very technical information on how messaging is
> handled in twitter, to understand what needs to be retained for Public
> Records laws.
>
> 1. Senerio set-up: User2 is "replying" to User1. When User2 replies to
> User1 using the message {...@user1 thats a great idea} is there any
> message sent (similar to how email is sent) where the message actually
> travels to User1?

By default no. User1 could have SMS delivery setup and any messages
would get sent to their cellphone.

> -or-
> Does User1's twitter program search User2's twitter posting looking
> for @User1 and then if found directs User1 to User2's content? Similar
> to a search engine where it (twitter) would run a search finding the
> content @User1 and then saying "Here is a reply go here or get it from
> here".

This is one way of doing it. User1 could have an application that
pulls the content to a desktop application, cellphone application or
some other kind of integration.

>
> --- To get into it further if I reply to @noname and noname isnt a
> valid acount/ it doesnt exist. Does that message get transmitted
> anywhere.
>

It depends on the type of message. If it is a DM/PM Twitter will
refuse to accept the DM. If it is an @-reply anyone following your
account could have the tweet delivered to them in a number of ways.

> Lets start with that as its confusing enough. Basicly if a message is
> transmitted to a government on twitter they are public record and need
> to be retained.
>

Hope this clarifies some.
Abraham

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[twitter-dev] Re: Clarification on how @ messages and PM's are handled - PLEASE HELP

2009-06-24 Thread Joel Strellner

Hi Nicholas,

I don't work for twitter, but I believe that they associate ID's to
messages (tweets or DMs), and then associate the ID to each of the
users that it needs to go to.  The message is only stored once, unlike
email which is copied to each user.

If a user deletes their message, all the users that would ordinarily
see it, will no longer be able to see it.

If you send a message to @noname, and they do not exist, I believe it
is silently dropped.  It will still be in the senders sent history,
but since @noname doesn't exist, no one would see it unless they
looked at the senders tweets. Since there is no @noname available, it
is unable to map it to a user ID, and therefore, it wont appear (even
if someone created @noname later in the future)

-Joel

On Jun 24, 2:12 pm, Nicholas S  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I would very much appreciate the groups help on this. I work for a
> local city government in Florida and we are trying to look into using
> Twitter to help make government more transparent and engaged with our
> community. BUT I need very technical information on how messaging is
> handled in twitter, to understand what needs to be retained for Public
> Records laws.
>
> 1. Senerio set-up: User2 is "replying" to User1. When User2 replies to
> User1 using the message {...@user1 thats a great idea} is there any
> message sent (similar to how email is sent) where the message actually
> travels to User1?
> -or-
> Does User1's twitter program search User2's twitter posting looking
> for @User1 and then if found directs User1 to User2's content? Similar
> to a search engine where it (twitter) would run a search finding the
> content @User1 and then saying "Here is a reply go here or get it from
> here".
>
> --- To get into it further if I reply to @noname and noname isnt a
> valid acount/ it doesnt exist. Does that message get transmitted
> anywhere.
>
> Lets start with that as its confusing enough. Basicly if a message is
> transmitted to a government on twitter they are public record and need
> to be retained.