Re: [twitter-dev] undo retweets in stream api

2010-09-01 Thread Furkan Kuru
Is there any fix for this issue?

We try to calculate the order and the number of retweets of a person's
tweet whom we follow through stream api.

However the retweets and undo-retweets of people whom we don't follow
accumulates and increases the RT number.



On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:47 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
 Various counts are off on Twitter right now, so you shouldn't be
 basing much on counts.

 If you are following the original tweeter, you get the retweet, but
 not the deletion. If you are following the retweeter, you get both the
 retweet and the deletion notice. This is due to a limitation in the
 deletion message format -- there isn't enough information to route the
 message in the first case. This affects several streaming use cases,
 and is a known issue that we, eventually, hope to fix the next time
 we're in that part of the code.

 One workaround, albeit often impractical, is to take the full firehose
 and do the correlation on your end.

 -John Kalucki
 http://twitter.com/jkalucki
 Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.



 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, the original tweet was not deleted. Some of the retweets were deleted.

 Actually we noticed this problem when one of the tweet's retweet count
 seemed higher than it was shown in twitter. (both not exceeding 100)

 I do not know if twitter acts retweets as a reply-to-user and sends it to
 our stream.

 so we do not know wheter some of these retweet messages come from the users
 whom we do not follow.

 But so far, our retweet scores were always smaller than it was shown in
 twitter and we thought it was caused because of the fact that we do not
 follow everyone that might retweet the tweet.


 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:

 Was the original tweet by an account you are following, or was the
 retweet by an account you are following? Also, I'm assuming that it
 was the retweet that was deleted, not the original tweet.

 -John Kalucki
 http://twitter.com/jkalucki
 Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.


 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I am using the follow param on a shadow account.
 
 
  On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:14 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
 
  Which endpoint and parameters are you using? Firehose? Sample? Track?
  Etc.
 
  -John Kalucki
  http://twitter.com/jkalucki
  Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.
 
 
  On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Hello,
  
   In our stream we receive deleted statuses but can not receive undo
   retweets.
  
   Is undoing a retweet message is different than deleting a status?
  
   wiki has shown only the deleted status message info:
  
  
   JSON: { delete: { status: { id: 1234, user_id: 3 } } }
  
  
   --
   Furkan Kuru
  
 
 
 
  --
  Furkan Kuru
 



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Re: [twitter-dev] undo retweets in stream api

2010-09-01 Thread John Kalucki
Other than taking the firehose, I don't know how one would keep retweet
counts perfectly in sync. Perhaps a statistical model and some sampling via
REST will allow you to derate counts with reasonable accuracy?

-John


On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there any fix for this issue?

 We try to calculate the order and the number of retweets of a person's
 tweet whom we follow through stream api.

 However the retweets and undo-retweets of people whom we don't follow
 accumulates and increases the RT number.



 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:47 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
  Various counts are off on Twitter right now, so you shouldn't be
  basing much on counts.
 
  If you are following the original tweeter, you get the retweet, but
  not the deletion. If you are following the retweeter, you get both the
  retweet and the deletion notice. This is due to a limitation in the
  deletion message format -- there isn't enough information to route the
  message in the first case. This affects several streaming use cases,
  and is a known issue that we, eventually, hope to fix the next time
  we're in that part of the code.
 
  One workaround, albeit often impractical, is to take the full firehose
  and do the correlation on your end.
 
  -John Kalucki
  http://twitter.com/jkalucki
  Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Yes, the original tweet was not deleted. Some of the retweets were
 deleted.
 
  Actually we noticed this problem when one of the tweet's retweet count
  seemed higher than it was shown in twitter. (both not exceeding 100)
 
  I do not know if twitter acts retweets as a reply-to-user and sends it
 to
  our stream.
 
  so we do not know wheter some of these retweet messages come from the
 users
  whom we do not follow.
 
  But so far, our retweet scores were always smaller than it was shown in
  twitter and we thought it was caused because of the fact that we do not
  follow everyone that might retweet the tweet.
 
 
  On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
 
  Was the original tweet by an account you are following, or was the
  retweet by an account you are following? Also, I'm assuming that it
  was the retweet that was deleted, not the original tweet.
 
  -John Kalucki
  http://twitter.com/jkalucki
  Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.
 
 
  On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   I am using the follow param on a shadow account.
  
  
   On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:14 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com
 wrote:
  
   Which endpoint and parameters are you using? Firehose? Sample?
 Track?
   Etc.
  
   -John Kalucki
   http://twitter.com/jkalucki
   Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.
  
  
   On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com
   wrote:
Hello,
   
In our stream we receive deleted statuses but can not receive undo
retweets.
   
Is undoing a retweet message is different than deleting a status?
   
wiki has shown only the deleted status message info:
   
   
JSON: { delete: { status: { id: 1234, user_id: 3 } } }
   
   
--
Furkan Kuru
   
  
  
  
   --
   Furkan Kuru
  
 
 
 
  --
  Furkan Kuru
 
 



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Re: [twitter-dev] undo retweets in stream api

2010-06-15 Thread John Kalucki
Which endpoint and parameters are you using? Firehose? Sample? Track? Etc.

-John Kalucki
http://twitter.com/jkalucki
Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.


On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 In our stream we receive deleted statuses but can not receive undo retweets.

 Is undoing a retweet message is different than deleting a status?

 wiki has shown only the deleted status message info:


 JSON: { delete: { status: { id: 1234, user_id: 3 } } }


 --
 Furkan Kuru



Re: [twitter-dev] undo retweets in stream api

2010-06-15 Thread Furkan Kuru
I am using the follow param on a shadow account.


On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:14 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:

 Which endpoint and parameters are you using? Firehose? Sample? Track? Etc.

 -John Kalucki
 http://twitter.com/jkalucki
 Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.


 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello,
 
  In our stream we receive deleted statuses but can not receive undo
 retweets.
 
  Is undoing a retweet message is different than deleting a status?
 
  wiki has shown only the deleted status message info:
 
 
  JSON: { delete: { status: { id: 1234, user_id: 3 } } }
 
 
  --
  Furkan Kuru
 




-- 
Furkan Kuru


Re: [twitter-dev] undo retweets in stream api

2010-06-15 Thread John Kalucki
Was the original tweet by an account you are following, or was the
retweet by an account you are following? Also, I'm assuming that it
was the retweet that was deleted, not the original tweet.

-John Kalucki
http://twitter.com/jkalucki
Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.


On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am using the follow param on a shadow account.


 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:14 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:

 Which endpoint and parameters are you using? Firehose? Sample? Track? Etc.

 -John Kalucki
 http://twitter.com/jkalucki
 Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.


 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello,
 
  In our stream we receive deleted statuses but can not receive undo
  retweets.
 
  Is undoing a retweet message is different than deleting a status?
 
  wiki has shown only the deleted status message info:
 
 
  JSON: { delete: { status: { id: 1234, user_id: 3 } } }
 
 
  --
  Furkan Kuru
 



 --
 Furkan Kuru



Re: [twitter-dev] undo retweets in stream api

2010-06-15 Thread Furkan Kuru
Yes, the original tweet was not deleted. Some of the retweets were deleted.

Actually we noticed this problem when one of the tweet's retweet count
seemed higher than it was shown in twitter. (both not exceeding 100)

I do not know if twitter acts retweets as a reply-to-user and sends it to
our stream.

so we do not know wheter some of these retweet messages come from the users
whom we do not follow.

But so far, our retweet scores were always smaller than it was shown in
twitter and we thought it was caused because of the fact that we do not
follow everyone that might retweet the tweet.


On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:

 Was the original tweet by an account you are following, or was the
 retweet by an account you are following? Also, I'm assuming that it
 was the retweet that was deleted, not the original tweet.

 -John Kalucki
 http://twitter.com/jkalucki
 Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.


 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I am using the follow param on a shadow account.
 
 
  On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:14 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
 
  Which endpoint and parameters are you using? Firehose? Sample? Track?
 Etc.
 
  -John Kalucki
  http://twitter.com/jkalucki
  Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.
 
 
  On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Hello,
  
   In our stream we receive deleted statuses but can not receive undo
   retweets.
  
   Is undoing a retweet message is different than deleting a status?
  
   wiki has shown only the deleted status message info:
  
  
   JSON: { delete: { status: { id: 1234, user_id: 3 } } }
  
  
   --
   Furkan Kuru
  
 
 
 
  --
  Furkan Kuru
 




-- 
Furkan Kuru


Re: [twitter-dev] undo retweets in stream api

2010-06-15 Thread John Kalucki
Various counts are off on Twitter right now, so you shouldn't be
basing much on counts.

If you are following the original tweeter, you get the retweet, but
not the deletion. If you are following the retweeter, you get both the
retweet and the deletion notice. This is due to a limitation in the
deletion message format -- there isn't enough information to route the
message in the first case. This affects several streaming use cases,
and is a known issue that we, eventually, hope to fix the next time
we're in that part of the code.

One workaround, albeit often impractical, is to take the full firehose
and do the correlation on your end.

-John Kalucki
http://twitter.com/jkalucki
Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.



On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, the original tweet was not deleted. Some of the retweets were deleted.

 Actually we noticed this problem when one of the tweet's retweet count
 seemed higher than it was shown in twitter. (both not exceeding 100)

 I do not know if twitter acts retweets as a reply-to-user and sends it to
 our stream.

 so we do not know wheter some of these retweet messages come from the users
 whom we do not follow.

 But so far, our retweet scores were always smaller than it was shown in
 twitter and we thought it was caused because of the fact that we do not
 follow everyone that might retweet the tweet.


 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:

 Was the original tweet by an account you are following, or was the
 retweet by an account you are following? Also, I'm assuming that it
 was the retweet that was deleted, not the original tweet.

 -John Kalucki
 http://twitter.com/jkalucki
 Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.


 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I am using the follow param on a shadow account.
 
 
  On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:14 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
 
  Which endpoint and parameters are you using? Firehose? Sample? Track?
  Etc.
 
  -John Kalucki
  http://twitter.com/jkalucki
  Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.
 
 
  On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Furkan Kuru furkank...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Hello,
  
   In our stream we receive deleted statuses but can not receive undo
   retweets.
  
   Is undoing a retweet message is different than deleting a status?
  
   wiki has shown only the deleted status message info:
  
  
   JSON: { delete: { status: { id: 1234, user_id: 3 } } }
  
  
   --
   Furkan Kuru
  
 
 
 
  --
  Furkan Kuru
 



 --
 Furkan Kuru



Re: [twitter-dev] Undo Retweets?

2009-12-04 Thread Abraham Williams
I've not tested it but in theory you can do a statuses/destroy for the
retweet id. Not the id of original status but of the id returned when the
retweet was created.

Abraham

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:40, Daniel Silva danielmartinssi...@gmail.comwrote:

 How can we make a retweet undo?

 regards,

 Daniel Silva




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