Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.

2012-01-05 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Thierry Reding,

In message 1321524246-5187-2-git-send-email-thierry.red...@avionic-design.de 
you wrote:
 The AVP on Tegra2 doesn't boot properly when U-Boot is linked against
 the GCC provided libgcc. To work around this, always build and link
 against a private libgcc for Tegra2-based boards.

I notice this patch only now, when pulling in from u-boot-arm.

I will accept this only temporarily.  Why don't you use a working tool
chain instead, or fix the one you are using?

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.

2012-01-05 Thread Stephen Warren
On 01/05/2012 08:50 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
 Dear Thierry Reding,
 
 In message 
 1321524246-5187-2-git-send-email-thierry.red...@avionic-design.de you wrote:
 The AVP on Tegra2 doesn't boot properly when U-Boot is linked against
 the GCC provided libgcc. To work around this, always build and link
 against a private libgcc for Tegra2-based boards.
 
 I notice this patch only now, when pulling in from u-boot-arm.
 
 I will accept this only temporarily.  Why don't you use a working tool
 chain instead, or fix the one you are using?

I believe the issue isn't that the toolchain is broken, but due to the
mix of multiple CPU types on Tegra, all of which run the same U-Boot binary.

U-Boot starts execution on the AVP CPU, an ARMv4(?) CPU. U-Boot then
inits the main CPUs, ARMv7 Cortex A9s, and arranges for them to continue
running U-Boot.

The libraries included in the toolchain are built for the ARMv7 CPUs,
and hence fail to operate correctly when used by the portion of U-Boot
which runs on the ARMv4 CPU, presumably due to ISA differences. IIRC,
there are overrides in the U-Boot build process such that some/all of
U-Boot is built so it'll run on ARMv4 OK, which is why using libgcc
built by U-Boot solves this.

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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.

2012-01-05 Thread Simon Glass
Hi Stephen,

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Stephen Warren swar...@nvidia.com wrote:
 On 01/05/2012 08:50 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
 Dear Thierry Reding,

 In message 
 1321524246-5187-2-git-send-email-thierry.red...@avionic-design.de you 
 wrote:
 The AVP on Tegra2 doesn't boot properly when U-Boot is linked against
 the GCC provided libgcc. To work around this, always build and link
 against a private libgcc for Tegra2-based boards.

 I notice this patch only now, when pulling in from u-boot-arm.

 I will accept this only temporarily.  Why don't you use a working tool
 chain instead, or fix the one you are using?

 I believe the issue isn't that the toolchain is broken, but due to the
 mix of multiple CPU types on Tegra, all of which run the same U-Boot binary.

 U-Boot starts execution on the AVP CPU, an ARMv4(?) CPU. U-Boot then
 inits the main CPUs, ARMv7 Cortex A9s, and arranges for them to continue
 running U-Boot.

 The libraries included in the toolchain are built for the ARMv7 CPUs,
 and hence fail to operate correctly when used by the portion of U-Boot
 which runs on the ARMv4 CPU, presumably due to ISA differences. IIRC,
 there are overrides in the U-Boot build process such that some/all of
 U-Boot is built so it'll run on ARMv4 OK, which is why using libgcc
 built by U-Boot solves this.

Yes that's right, but actually I have never delved into exactly why.
Perhaps it is an integer divide or internal memcpy() call early in the
code. We might be able to find the offending C library code, given
enough time, and perhaps arrange not to call it. A little fragile
though.

Regards,
Simon


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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.

2012-01-05 Thread Tom Warren
Simon,

 -Original Message-
 From: s...@google.com [mailto:s...@google.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:07 AM
 To: Stephen Warren
 Cc: Wolfgang Denk; Thierry Reding; u-boot@lists.denx.de; Tom Warren
 Subject: Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with
 USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.
 
 Hi Stephen,
 
 On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Stephen Warren swar...@nvidia.com wrote:
  On 01/05/2012 08:50 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
  Dear Thierry Reding,
 
  In message 1321524246-5187-2-git-send-email-thierry.reding@avionic-
 design.de you wrote:
  The AVP on Tegra2 doesn't boot properly when U-Boot is linked
  against the GCC provided libgcc. To work around this, always build
  and link against a private libgcc for Tegra2-based boards.
 
  I notice this patch only now, when pulling in from u-boot-arm.
 
  I will accept this only temporarily.  Why don't you use a working
  tool chain instead, or fix the one you are using?
 
  I believe the issue isn't that the toolchain is broken, but due to the
  mix of multiple CPU types on Tegra, all of which run the same U-Boot
 binary.
 
  U-Boot starts execution on the AVP CPU, an ARMv4(?) CPU. U-Boot then
  inits the main CPUs, ARMv7 Cortex A9s, and arranges for them to
  continue running U-Boot.
 
  The libraries included in the toolchain are built for the ARMv7 CPUs,
  and hence fail to operate correctly when used by the portion of U-Boot
  which runs on the ARMv4 CPU, presumably due to ISA differences. IIRC,
  there are overrides in the U-Boot build process such that some/all of
  U-Boot is built so it'll run on ARMv4 OK, which is why using libgcc
  built by U-Boot solves this.
 
 Yes that's right, but actually I have never delved into exactly why.
 Perhaps it is an integer divide or internal memcpy() call early in the code.
 We might be able to find the offending C library code, given enough time,
 and perhaps arrange not to call it. A little fragile though.

IIRC, it was a divide that caused an undefined instruction exception. You can 
run U-Boot w/o the UE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC, and break in w/JTAG and look at the 
undefined instr shadow regs (sp/lr/pc) and find the opcode that caused the 
fault pretty easily, again IIRC.  But USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC was intended for just 
this problem, and works fine.

Tom
 
 Regards,
 Simon
 
 
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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.

2012-01-05 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Stephen Warren,

In message 4f05d596.6030...@nvidia.com you wrote:

  I will accept this only temporarily.  Why don't you use a working tool
  chain instead, or fix the one you are using?
 
 I believe the issue isn't that the toolchain is broken, but due to the
 mix of multiple CPU types on Tegra, all of which run the same U-Boot binary.

When we can solve this issue with our own version of the libgcc, then
we can also solve it by using a tool chain that provides the needed
lingcc code.

 U-Boot starts execution on the AVP CPU, an ARMv4(?) CPU. U-Boot then
 inits the main CPUs, ARMv7 Cortex A9s, and arranges for them to continue
 running U-Boot.

OK, so you have to use a tool chain which provides libgcc code for
armv4t systems.  What exactly is the problem here?

 The libraries included in the toolchain are built for the ARMv7 CPUs,

SO this is not the right tool chain for the job.  Ecactly what I said.

 and hence fail to operate correctly when used by the portion of U-Boot
 which runs on the ARMv4 CPU, presumably due to ISA differences. IIRC,
 there are overrides in the U-Boot build process such that some/all of
 U-Boot is built so it'll run on ARMv4 OK, which is why using libgcc
 built by U-Boot solves this.

No, this is NOT a solution, it is a workaround for an inappropriate
toolchain.  If you want to build code for an armv4t system, you must
use a tool chain that supports it.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.

2012-01-05 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Simon Glass,

In message capnjgz2wcqf2tpwwfudkg7y_xdeyhbfrenqxxrjg6eu7yj9...@mail.gmail.com 
you wrote:
 
  The libraries included in the toolchain are built for the ARMv7 CPUs,
  and hence fail to operate correctly when used by the portion of U-Boot
  which runs on the ARMv4 CPU, presumably due to ISA differences. IIRC,
  there are overrides in the U-Boot build process such that some/all of
  U-Boot is built so it'll run on ARMv4 OK, which is why using libgcc
  built by U-Boot solves this.
 
 Yes that's right, but actually I have never delved into exactly why.
 Perhaps it is an integer divide or internal memcpy() call early in the
 code. We might be able to find the offending C library code, given
 enough time, and perhaps arrange not to call it. A little fragile
 though.

That would be the totally wrong approach.  Problems should be solved
where they originate.  Here this appears to be the tool chain, which
does not provide a version of libgcc suitable for amv4t
configurations.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.

2012-01-05 Thread Stephen Warren
On 01/05/2012 12:16 PM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
 In message 4f05d596.6030...@nvidia.com you wrote:
...
 The libraries included in the toolchain are built for the ARMv7 CPUs,
 
 SO this is not the right tool chain for the job.  Ecactly what I said.
 
 and hence fail to operate correctly when used by the portion of U-Boot
 which runs on the ARMv4 CPU, presumably due to ISA differences. IIRC,
 there are overrides in the U-Boot build process such that some/all of
 U-Boot is built so it'll run on ARMv4 OK, which is why using libgcc
 built by U-Boot solves this.
 
 No, this is NOT a solution, it is a workaround for an inappropriate
 toolchain.  If you want to build code for an armv4t system, you must
 use a tool chain that supports it.

But we don't want to generate code for ARMv4 in general, but rather
ARMv7 as the toolchain does. Only a tiny part of the code needs to be
built for ARMv4, and in general we want to benefit from using ARMv7.

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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.

2012-01-05 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Stephen Warren,

In message 4f05fcbd.2040...@nvidia.com you wrote:

  No, this is NOT a solution, it is a workaround for an inappropriate
  toolchain.  If you want to build code for an armv4t system, you must
  use a tool chain that supports it.
 
 But we don't want to generate code for ARMv4 in general, but rather

Then just turn on the ARMv4 specific options (-march=armv4t -mno-thumb
-mthumb-interwork -mtune=arm920t ???) for the files that need it.

But as soon as any of these files liks code from libgcc you have to
decide.

 ARMv7 as the toolchain does. Only a tiny part of the code needs to be
 built for ARMv4, and in general we want to benefit from using ARMv7.

Then you should probably still link against a ARMv4 specific libgcc.

If you were building U-Boot's libgcc code with optimization set for
ARMv7 this would not fix anything.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.

2012-01-05 Thread Simon Glass
Hi,

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Wolfgang Denk w...@denx.de wrote:
 Dear Stephen Warren,

 In message 4f05fcbd.2040...@nvidia.com you wrote:

  No, this is NOT a solution, it is a workaround for an inappropriate
  toolchain.  If you want to build code for an armv4t system, you must
  use a tool chain that supports it.

 But we don't want to generate code for ARMv4 in general, but rather

 Then just turn on the ARMv4 specific options (-march=armv4t -mno-thumb
 -mthumb-interwork -mtune=arm920t ???) for the files that need it.

 But as soon as any of these files liks code from libgcc you have to
 decide.

Perhaps we could adjust Tegra's config.mk to use ARMv4T when not
building with the private libgcc?


 ARMv7 as the toolchain does. Only a tiny part of the code needs to be
 built for ARMv4, and in general we want to benefit from using ARMv7.

 Then you should probably still link against a ARMv4 specific libgcc.

 If you were building U-Boot's libgcc code with optimization set for
 ARMv7 this would not fix anything.


It might be possible to specify ARMv4T on the link flags and have it
pick up the v4T library, even if nearly everything else is ARMv7?

Regards,
Simon

 Best regards,

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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.

2012-01-05 Thread Stephen Warren
On 01/05/2012 01:42 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Wolfgang Denk w...@denx.de wrote:
 Dear Stephen Warren,

 In message 4f05fcbd.2040...@nvidia.com you wrote:

 No, this is NOT a solution, it is a workaround for an inappropriate
 toolchain.  If you want to build code for an armv4t system, you must
 use a tool chain that supports it.

 But we don't want to generate code for ARMv4 in general, but rather

 Then just turn on the ARMv4 specific options (-march=armv4t -mno-thumb
 -mthumb-interwork -mtune=arm920t ???) for the files that need it.

That's exactly what we've already done, but that doesn't affect code
that gets pulled in from libgcc, which is what USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC
affects IIUC.

 But as soon as any of these files liks code from libgcc you have to
 decide.
 
 Perhaps we could adjust Tegra's config.mk to use ARMv4T when not
 building with the private libgcc?

I believe the relevant U-Boot source files are already built for ARMv4T,
it's just libgcc that's the issue.

 ARMv7 as the toolchain does. Only a tiny part of the code needs to be
 built for ARMv4, and in general we want to benefit from using ARMv7.

 Then you should probably still link against a ARMv4 specific libgcc.

 If you were building U-Boot's libgcc code with optimization set for
 ARMv7 this would not fix anything.
 
 It might be possible to specify ARMv4T on the link flags and have it
 pick up the v4T library, even if nearly everything else is ARMv7?

I don't think we use any multilib toolchains, so I don't think that's
possible.

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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.

2012-01-05 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Stephen,

In message 4f060dd1.9050...@nvidia.com you wrote:

  It might be possible to specify ARMv4T on the link flags and have it
  pick up the v4T library, even if nearly everything else is ARMv7?
 
 I don't think we use any multilib toolchains, so I don't think that's
 possible.

I don't even think you need one with multilib support.  You need one
that provides a libgcc for armv4t, that's all.

It is wrong, always and everywhere, NOT to try to fix the problems at
the origin.  If your tool chain does not meet your requirements, then
the first action should always be to get a working tool chain -
ideally by getting the deficiencies of the currnt one fixed, or by
using another one.

Working around such problems may be a short term approach to get
things running quickly.  But it appears that more and more people make
it a habit to do just that, without even trying to get the real
problems fixed upstream.  That's bad, bad, bad.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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[U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.

2011-11-17 Thread Thierry Reding
The AVP on Tegra2 doesn't boot properly when U-Boot is linked against
the GCC provided libgcc. To work around this, always build and link
against a private libgcc for Tegra2-based boards.

Signed-off-by: Thierry Reding thierry.red...@avionic-design.de
---
 arch/arm/cpu/armv7/tegra2/config.mk |2 ++
 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/tegra2/config.mk 
b/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/tegra2/config.mk
index 8f9bdc9..2303dba 100644
--- a/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/tegra2/config.mk
+++ b/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/tegra2/config.mk
@@ -29,3 +29,5 @@
 ifdef CONFIG_TEGRA2
 CFLAGS_arch/arm/lib/board.o += -march=armv4t
 endif
+
+USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC = yes
-- 
1.7.7.3

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Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] tegra2: Always build with USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC=yes.

2011-11-17 Thread Simon Glass
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Thierry Reding
thierry.red...@avionic-design.de wrote:
 The AVP on Tegra2 doesn't boot properly when U-Boot is linked against
 the GCC provided libgcc. To work around this, always build and link
 against a private libgcc for Tegra2-based boards.

 Signed-off-by: Thierry Reding thierry.red...@avionic-design.de

Tested-by: Simon Glass s...@chromium.org

 ---
  arch/arm/cpu/armv7/tegra2/config.mk |    2 ++
  1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

 diff --git a/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/tegra2/config.mk 
 b/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/tegra2/config.mk
 index 8f9bdc9..2303dba 100644
 --- a/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/tegra2/config.mk
 +++ b/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/tegra2/config.mk
 @@ -29,3 +29,5 @@
  ifdef CONFIG_TEGRA2
  CFLAGS_arch/arm/lib/board.o += -march=armv4t
  endif
 +
 +USE_PRIVATE_LIBGCC = yes
 --
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