Re: [U-Boot] Any good __LOW COST__ MIPS SBC suggestion please
It will be nice, if its an SBC, and it has atleast 64/128 MB SDRAM, and 16/32 MB flash, USB support, (i can;t expect a super fast processor, but a decent one like 166/200 Mhz should be ok) Pure speculation, mainly because I was thinking about getting one myself, but perhaps the Netgear WNR3500L, which also has a specific Linux port. The specifications are available at [1] and it appears to meet your criteria. Has anyone used one before? If so, what was your experience? -- Damien [1] http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/13378/Features-and-Specifications-NETGEAR-WNR3500L-Open-Source-Wireless-N-Gigabit-Router/ ___ U-Boot mailing list U-Boot@lists.denx.de http://lists.denx.de/mailman/listinfo/u-boot
Re: [U-Boot] Any good __LOW COST__ MIPS SBC suggestion please
Hi Balaji, Please don't top quote. Balaji Ravindran wrote: Hi Florian and Jerry, Thanks for the inputs, i was actually going through the choices, and yea as suggested Lemote seems to be a nice choice for me, and was wanting to see distributors in the US / US shipping options., Based on your .in email domain, I did not expect that to be a problem. :-/ also i had a look at the Linksys routers that you guys mentioned, but one question, aren't the commercial products different from those of development versions?, There are no development versions. That is why they are cheap. ;-) I mean, when i opened up my WRT 610N, i could see that, the main section of my router board is sealed in a steel casing(guess heat dissipater), though i can get the specs online, The metal enclosure would be a EMI shield. This is typically needed over the RF sections, sometimes needed over the processor sections. It may or may not cover interesting things (processor, JTAG connector, etc). but does it have JTAG ports for debugging support? usually in production versions, the odm's doesn't provide JTAG right? well, i couldn't see one though. The JTAG port is typically pads with no connector installed. The designer/developers need it for development and the manufacturer typically needs it for loading new boards or debugging bad boards. Developers get boards with connectors installed (special builds or add-on). Manufacturers will use a fixture with pogo pins to stab the pads directly. You get the opportunity for showing creativity, ingenuity, and soldering prowess. Just curious, will we be able to get development boards of Linksys WRT SKUs? No. Linksys is in the business of selling lots of turnkey boxes, not development stations. Their attitude varies between tolerance and unhappiness with respect to hackers repurposing their boxes. If you are looking for development boards, the off-the-shelf repurposing that Florian and I have mentioned do not fit your desires. You will need to restart your search with actual eval/dev boards and probably pay more money. The advantage is that you will probably get better help and more information from the (re)seller. The disadvantage is that you will pay more and probably learn less. Thanks Balaji R Best regards, gvb P.S. Florian: Thanks for the added info, that was very helpful. [snip original] ___ U-Boot mailing list U-Boot@lists.denx.de http://lists.denx.de/mailman/listinfo/u-boot
Re: [U-Boot] Any good __LOW COST__ MIPS SBC suggestion please
Le samedi 6 mars 2010 21:42:52, Jerry Van Baren a écrit : Hi Balaji, Balaji Ravindran wrote: Hi all, I'm hunting for a __LOW COST__ MIPS/PPC SBC, something like TS-7200(but it is for ARM). Could anyone please suggest me a good one, that you guys have come across. My purpose is only for general driver development, and developing some MIPS / PPC porting skills. Also another true intension is, i have couple of 2600$$ BDI3000 JTAG debuggers for PPC and MIPS, lying idle in my office, and want to make some good use out of it :). Lucky dude. :-) I was looking in the Boards directory to hunt for any MIPS based SBC boards, but found it hard to search. It will be nice, if its an SBC, and it has atleast 64/128 MB SDRAM, and 16/32 MB flash, USB support, (i can;t expect a super fast processor, but a decent one like 166/200 Mhz should be ok) Two off-the-wall thoughts would be to use QEMU (the ultimate in low cost) or a MIPS-based wireless/firewall/router. A fair number of the cheap ones use versions of the Realtek SoC processor, which is MIPS architecture: http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Realtek_SOC This is actually a really bad choice, unless you start using Realtek WiSoCs (RT30xx/RT28xx). RTL8186 and RTL8651B are using a Lexra core, which is famous for not having 4 patented instructions (lwl, lwr, swl and swr), which therefore requires a different toolchain. Also the Linux support is just non- existent. Finally they use a brain-dead bootloader called ROME which only allows a couple of actions to be performed. More seriously, buy a WRT160NL or WRT54GL from Linksys, which is equally cheap as those Realtek devices. As another possibility, you may be able to pick up a Lemote computer which uses the Loongson processor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemote This is a much better choice :) -- Cordialement, Florian Fainelli -- ___ U-Boot mailing list U-Boot@lists.denx.de http://lists.denx.de/mailman/listinfo/u-boot
Re: [U-Boot] Any good __LOW COST__ MIPS SBC suggestion please
Hi Florian and Jerry, Thanks for the inputs, i was actually going through the choices, and yea as suggested Lemote seems to be a nice choice for me, and was wanting to see distributors in the US / US shipping options., also i had a look at the Linksys routers that you guys mentioned, but one question, aren't the commercial products different from those of development versions?, I mean, when i opened up my WRT 610N, i could see that, the main section of my router board is sealed in a steel casing(guess heat dissipater), though i can get the specs online, but does it have JTAG ports for debugging support? usually in production versions, the odm's doesn't provide JTAG right? well, i couldn't see one though. Just curious, will we be able to get development boards of Linksys WRT SKUs? Thanks Balaji R On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Florian Fainelli f.faine...@gmail.comwrote: Le samedi 6 mars 2010 21:42:52, Jerry Van Baren a écrit : Hi Balaji, Balaji Ravindran wrote: Hi all, I'm hunting for a __LOW COST__ MIPS/PPC SBC, something like TS-7200(but it is for ARM). Could anyone please suggest me a good one, that you guys have come across. My purpose is only for general driver development, and developing some MIPS / PPC porting skills. Also another true intension is, i have couple of 2600$$ BDI3000 JTAG debuggers for PPC and MIPS, lying idle in my office, and want to make some good use out of it :). Lucky dude. :-) I was looking in the Boards directory to hunt for any MIPS based SBC boards, but found it hard to search. It will be nice, if its an SBC, and it has atleast 64/128 MB SDRAM, and 16/32 MB flash, USB support, (i can;t expect a super fast processor, but a decent one like 166/200 Mhz should be ok) Two off-the-wall thoughts would be to use QEMU (the ultimate in low cost) or a MIPS-based wireless/firewall/router. A fair number of the cheap ones use versions of the Realtek SoC processor, which is MIPS architecture: http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Realtek_SOC This is actually a really bad choice, unless you start using Realtek WiSoCs (RT30xx/RT28xx). RTL8186 and RTL8651B are using a Lexra core, which is famous for not having 4 patented instructions (lwl, lwr, swl and swr), which therefore requires a different toolchain. Also the Linux support is just non- existent. Finally they use a brain-dead bootloader called ROME which only allows a couple of actions to be performed. More seriously, buy a WRT160NL or WRT54GL from Linksys, which is equally cheap as those Realtek devices. As another possibility, you may be able to pick up a Lemote computer which uses the Loongson processor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemote This is a much better choice :) -- Cordialement, Florian Fainelli -- ___ U-Boot mailing list U-Boot@lists.denx.de http://lists.denx.de/mailman/listinfo/u-boot
Re: [U-Boot] Any good __LOW COST__ MIPS SBC suggestion please
Hi Balaji, Balaji Ravindran wrote: Hi all, I'm hunting for a __LOW COST__ MIPS/PPC SBC, something like TS-7200(but it is for ARM). Could anyone please suggest me a good one, that you guys have come across. My purpose is only for general driver development, and developing some MIPS / PPC porting skills. Also another true intension is, i have couple of 2600$$ BDI3000 JTAG debuggers for PPC and MIPS, lying idle in my office, and want to make some good use out of it :). Lucky dude. :-) I was looking in the Boards directory to hunt for any MIPS based SBC boards, but found it hard to search. It will be nice, if its an SBC, and it has atleast 64/128 MB SDRAM, and 16/32 MB flash, USB support, (i can;t expect a super fast processor, but a decent one like 166/200 Mhz should be ok) Two off-the-wall thoughts would be to use QEMU (the ultimate in low cost) or a MIPS-based wireless/firewall/router. A fair number of the cheap ones use versions of the Realtek SoC processor, which is MIPS architecture: http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Realtek_SOC As another possibility, you may be able to pick up a Lemote computer which uses the Loongson processor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemote Thanks Balaji R Have fun, gvb ___ U-Boot mailing list U-Boot@lists.denx.de http://lists.denx.de/mailman/listinfo/u-boot
[U-Boot] Any good __LOW COST__ MIPS SBC suggestion please
Hi all, I'm hunting for a __LOW COST__ MIPS/PPC SBC, something like TS-7200(but it is for ARM). Could anyone please suggest me a good one, that you guys have come across. My purpose is only for general driver development, and developing some MIPS / PPC porting skills. Also another true intension is, i have couple of 2600$$ BDI3000 JTAG debuggers for PPC and MIPS, lying idle in my office, and want to make some good use out of it :). I was looking in the Boards directory to hunt for any MIPS based SBC boards, but found it hard to search. It will be nice, if its an SBC, and it has atleast 64/128 MB SDRAM, and 16/32 MB flash, USB support, (i can;t expect a super fast processor, but a decent one like 166/200 Mhz should be ok) Thanks Balaji R ___ U-Boot mailing list U-Boot@lists.denx.de http://lists.denx.de/mailman/listinfo/u-boot
