Re: [PATCH 09/10] doc: cmd: add documentation for scmi
Hi, On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 at 03:05, AKASHI Takahiro wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 02:30:55PM +0100, Simon Glass wrote: > > Hi , > > > > On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 02:19, AKASHI Takahiro > > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 08:10:02PM +0100, Simon Glass wrote: > > > > Hi AKASHI, > > > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 01:49, AKASHI Takahiro > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This is a help text for scmi command. > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: AKASHI Takahiro > > > > > --- > > > > > doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst | 98 > > > > > ++ > > > > > 1 file changed, 98 insertions(+) > > > > > create mode 100644 doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst b/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > > > > > new file mode 100644 > > > > > index ..20cdae4b877d > > > > > --- /dev/null > > > > > +++ b/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ > > > > > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0+: > > > > > + > > > > > +scmi command > > > > > + > > > > > + > > > > > +Synopsis > > > > > + > > > > > + > > > > > +:: > > > > > + > > > > > +scmi base info > > > > > +scmi base perm_dev > > > > > +scmi base perm_proto > > > > > +scmi base reset > > > > > + > > > > > +Description > > > > > +--- > > > > > + > > > > > +The scmi command is used to access and operate on SCMI server. > > > > > + > > > > > +scmi base info > > > > > +~~ > > > > > +Show base information about SCMI server and supported protocols > > > > > + > > > > > +scmi base perm_dev > > > > > +~~ > > > > > +Allow or deny access permission to the device > > > > > + > > > > > +scmi base perm_proto > > > > > + > > > > > +Allow or deny access to the protocol on the device > > > > > + > > > > > +scmi base reset > > > > > +~~~ > > > > > +Reset the existing configurations > > > > > + > > > > > +Parameters are used as follows: > > > > > + > > > > > + > > > > > +Agent ID > > > > > > > > what is this? > > > > > > I thought that the meaning was trivial in SCMI context. > > > Will change it to "SCMI Agent ID". > > > > What is SCMI? Really you should explain and link to information about > > things you mention in documentation. How else is anyone supposed to > > Generally yes, but please note that SCMI and related drivers are already > there in U-Boot. For instance, see drivers/firmware/scmi/Kconfig. > I don't think we need any more explanation about what is SCMI everywhere > the word, "SCMI", appears. > > > figure out what you are talking about? > > Again, those who don't know about SCMI and if SCMI server is installed > on their systems will never use this command. > > > > > "SCMI Agent ID" doesn't tell us much. What form does it take? Is it a > > string? How do you find it out? > > While I still believe that What SCMI agent ID means is trivial for > those who read the SCMI specification, I will give a short description > about possible values. > > > > > > > > > > > > + > > > > > + > > > > > +Device ID > > > > > > > > what is this? > > > > > > Again, will change it to "SCMI Device ID". > > > > That doesn't help much. The purpose of documentation is to explain > > things for people who don't already know it. We need to try to be as > > helpful as possible. > > The same above. > Please note that the definition of "device (ID)", except its data type, > is out of scope of SCMI specification. > It doesn't describe any means by which values be identified/retrieved. > > > > > > > > > + > > > > > + > > > > > +Protocol ID, should not be 0x10 (base protocol) > > > > > > > > what is this? Please add more detail > > > > > > Again, will change it to "SCMI Protocol ID". > > > I think that users should be familiar with those terms > > > if they want to use these interfaces. > > > > Maybe, but it still isn't clear what it is. A string? > > Will add a short description about its data type/format. > > > It is confusing > > that the command ID is also a protocol ID. > > Yes, I know, but the confusion exists in SCMI specification. > It sometimes seems to use both words almost interchangeably, even > in a single context. For instance, the section 4.2.2.11 of [1] > says, > > 4.2.2.11 BASE_SET_PROTOCOL_PERMISSIONS > ... > This command BASE_SET_PROTOCOL_PERMISSIONS is used to ... > (This "command" has a yet another meaning.) > > Parameters > uint32_t command_id Bits[31:8] Reserved, must be zero > Bits[7:0] Protocol ID > > [1] https://developer.arm.com/documentation/den0056/e/?lang=en > > So using "command_id" for a parameter name and "Protocol ID" > as a (part of) value is very much aligned with the specification. > > That said, I will change "command_id" to "protocol_id" for now. > > > > > > > > > + > > > > > + > > > > > +Flags to control the action. See SCMI specification for > > > > > +defined values. > > > > > > > > ? > > > > >
Re: [PATCH 09/10] doc: cmd: add documentation for scmi
Hi Simon, On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 02:30:55PM +0100, Simon Glass wrote: > Hi , > > On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 02:19, AKASHI Takahiro > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 08:10:02PM +0100, Simon Glass wrote: > > > Hi AKASHI, > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 01:49, AKASHI Takahiro > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > This is a help text for scmi command. > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: AKASHI Takahiro > > > > --- > > > > doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst | 98 ++ > > > > 1 file changed, 98 insertions(+) > > > > create mode 100644 doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > > > > > > > > diff --git a/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst b/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > > > > new file mode 100644 > > > > index ..20cdae4b877d > > > > --- /dev/null > > > > +++ b/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ > > > > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0+: > > > > + > > > > +scmi command > > > > + > > > > + > > > > +Synopsis > > > > + > > > > + > > > > +:: > > > > + > > > > +scmi base info > > > > +scmi base perm_dev > > > > +scmi base perm_proto > > > > +scmi base reset > > > > + > > > > +Description > > > > +--- > > > > + > > > > +The scmi command is used to access and operate on SCMI server. > > > > + > > > > +scmi base info > > > > +~~ > > > > +Show base information about SCMI server and supported protocols > > > > + > > > > +scmi base perm_dev > > > > +~~ > > > > +Allow or deny access permission to the device > > > > + > > > > +scmi base perm_proto > > > > + > > > > +Allow or deny access to the protocol on the device > > > > + > > > > +scmi base reset > > > > +~~~ > > > > +Reset the existing configurations > > > > + > > > > +Parameters are used as follows: > > > > + > > > > + > > > > +Agent ID > > > > > > what is this? > > > > I thought that the meaning was trivial in SCMI context. > > Will change it to "SCMI Agent ID". > > What is SCMI? Really you should explain and link to information about > things you mention in documentation. How else is anyone supposed to Generally yes, but please note that SCMI and related drivers are already there in U-Boot. For instance, see drivers/firmware/scmi/Kconfig. I don't think we need any more explanation about what is SCMI everywhere the word, "SCMI", appears. > figure out what you are talking about? Again, those who don't know about SCMI and if SCMI server is installed on their systems will never use this command. > > "SCMI Agent ID" doesn't tell us much. What form does it take? Is it a > string? How do you find it out? While I still believe that What SCMI agent ID means is trivial for those who read the SCMI specification, I will give a short description about possible values. > > > > > > > > + > > > > + > > > > +Device ID > > > > > > what is this? > > > > Again, will change it to "SCMI Device ID". > > That doesn't help much. The purpose of documentation is to explain > things for people who don't already know it. We need to try to be as > helpful as possible. The same above. Please note that the definition of "device (ID)", except its data type, is out of scope of SCMI specification. It doesn't describe any means by which values be identified/retrieved. > > > > > > + > > > > + > > > > +Protocol ID, should not be 0x10 (base protocol) > > > > > > what is this? Please add more detail > > > > Again, will change it to "SCMI Protocol ID". > > I think that users should be familiar with those terms > > if they want to use these interfaces. > > Maybe, but it still isn't clear what it is. A string? Will add a short description about its data type/format. > It is confusing > that the command ID is also a protocol ID. Yes, I know, but the confusion exists in SCMI specification. It sometimes seems to use both words almost interchangeably, even in a single context. For instance, the section 4.2.2.11 of [1] says, 4.2.2.11 BASE_SET_PROTOCOL_PERMISSIONS ... This command BASE_SET_PROTOCOL_PERMISSIONS is used to ... (This "command" has a yet another meaning.) Parameters uint32_t command_id Bits[31:8] Reserved, must be zero Bits[7:0] Protocol ID [1] https://developer.arm.com/documentation/den0056/e/?lang=en So using "command_id" for a parameter name and "Protocol ID" as a (part of) value is very much aligned with the specification. That said, I will change "command_id" to "protocol_id" for now. > > > > > > + > > > > + > > > > +Flags to control the action. See SCMI specification for > > > > +defined values. > > > > > > ? > > > > > > Please add the flags here, or at the very least provide a URL and page > > > number, etc. > > > > I intentionally avoid providing details here because a set of flags > > acceptable to a specific SCMI server may depend on the server > > and its implementation version. > > The interface on U-Boot is just a wrapper to make a call to SCMI server > > via a transport l
Re: [PATCH 09/10] doc: cmd: add documentation for scmi
Hi , On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 02:19, AKASHI Takahiro wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 08:10:02PM +0100, Simon Glass wrote: > > Hi AKASHI, > > > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 01:49, AKASHI Takahiro > > wrote: > > > > > > This is a help text for scmi command. > > > > > > Signed-off-by: AKASHI Takahiro > > > --- > > > doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst | 98 ++ > > > 1 file changed, 98 insertions(+) > > > create mode 100644 doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > > > > > > diff --git a/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst b/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > > > new file mode 100644 > > > index ..20cdae4b877d > > > --- /dev/null > > > +++ b/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > > > @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ > > > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0+: > > > + > > > +scmi command > > > + > > > + > > > +Synopsis > > > + > > > + > > > +:: > > > + > > > +scmi base info > > > +scmi base perm_dev > > > +scmi base perm_proto > > > +scmi base reset > > > + > > > +Description > > > +--- > > > + > > > +The scmi command is used to access and operate on SCMI server. > > > + > > > +scmi base info > > > +~~ > > > +Show base information about SCMI server and supported protocols > > > + > > > +scmi base perm_dev > > > +~~ > > > +Allow or deny access permission to the device > > > + > > > +scmi base perm_proto > > > + > > > +Allow or deny access to the protocol on the device > > > + > > > +scmi base reset > > > +~~~ > > > +Reset the existing configurations > > > + > > > +Parameters are used as follows: > > > + > > > + > > > +Agent ID > > > > what is this? > > I thought that the meaning was trivial in SCMI context. > Will change it to "SCMI Agent ID". What is SCMI? Really you should explain and link to information about things you mention in documentation. How else is anyone supposed to figure out what you are talking about? "SCMI Agent ID" doesn't tell us much. What form does it take? Is it a string? How do you find it out? > > > > > + > > > + > > > +Device ID > > > > what is this? > > Again, will change it to "SCMI Device ID". That doesn't help much. The purpose of documentation is to explain things for people who don't already know it. We need to try to be as helpful as possible. > > > > + > > > + > > > +Protocol ID, should not be 0x10 (base protocol) > > > > what is this? Please add more detail > > Again, will change it to "SCMI Protocol ID". > I think that users should be familiar with those terms > if they want to use these interfaces. Maybe, but it still isn't clear what it is. A string? It is confusing that the command ID is also a protocol ID. > > > > + > > > + > > > +Flags to control the action. See SCMI specification for > > > +defined values. > > > > ? > > > > Please add the flags here, or at the very least provide a URL and page > > number, etc. > > I intentionally avoid providing details here because a set of flags > acceptable to a specific SCMI server may depend on the server > and its implementation version. > The interface on U-Boot is just a wrapper to make a call to SCMI server > via a transport layer and doesn't care what the parameters means. > That said, I agree to referring to a URL to SCMI specification somewhere > in this document. That will help. But also please add that this is a hex value (right?) > > Thanks, > -Takahiro Akashi > > > > + > > > +Example > > > +--- > > > + > > > +Obtain basic information about SCMI server: > > > + > > > +:: > > > + > > > +=> scmi base info > > > +SCMI device: scmi > > > + protocol version: 0x2 > > > + # of agents: 3 > > > + 0: platform > > > +> 1: OSPM > > > + 2: PSCI > > > + # of protocols: 4 > > > + Power domain management > > > + Performance domain management > > > + Clock management > > > + Sensor management > > > + vendor: Linaro > > > + sub vendor: PMWG > > > + impl version: 0x20b > > > + > > > +Ask for access permission to device#0: > > > + > > > +:: > > > + > > > +=> scmi base perm_dev 1 0 1 > > > + > > > +Reset configurations with all access permission settings retained: > > > + > > > +:: > > > + > > > +=> scmi base reset 1 0 > > > + > > > +Configuration > > > +- > > > + > > > +The scmi command is only available if CONFIG_CMD_SCMI=y. > > > +Default n because this command is mainly for debug purpose. > > > + > > > +Return value > > > + > > > + > > > +The return value ($?) is set to 0 if the operation succeeded, > > > +1 if the operation failed or -1 if the operation failed due to > > > +a syntax error. > > > -- > > > 2.41.0 > > > Regards, Simon
Re: [PATCH 09/10] doc: cmd: add documentation for scmi
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 08:10:02PM +0100, Simon Glass wrote: > Hi AKASHI, > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 01:49, AKASHI Takahiro > wrote: > > > > This is a help text for scmi command. > > > > Signed-off-by: AKASHI Takahiro > > --- > > doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst | 98 ++ > > 1 file changed, 98 insertions(+) > > create mode 100644 doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > > > > diff --git a/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst b/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > > new file mode 100644 > > index ..20cdae4b877d > > --- /dev/null > > +++ b/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > > @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ > > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0+: > > + > > +scmi command > > + > > + > > +Synopsis > > + > > + > > +:: > > + > > +scmi base info > > +scmi base perm_dev > > +scmi base perm_proto > > +scmi base reset > > + > > +Description > > +--- > > + > > +The scmi command is used to access and operate on SCMI server. > > + > > +scmi base info > > +~~ > > +Show base information about SCMI server and supported protocols > > + > > +scmi base perm_dev > > +~~ > > +Allow or deny access permission to the device > > + > > +scmi base perm_proto > > + > > +Allow or deny access to the protocol on the device > > + > > +scmi base reset > > +~~~ > > +Reset the existing configurations > > + > > +Parameters are used as follows: > > + > > + > > +Agent ID > > what is this? I thought that the meaning was trivial in SCMI context. Will change it to "SCMI Agent ID". > > + > > + > > +Device ID > > what is this? Again, will change it to "SCMI Device ID". > > + > > + > > +Protocol ID, should not be 0x10 (base protocol) > > what is this? Please add more detail Again, will change it to "SCMI Protocol ID". I think that users should be familiar with those terms if they want to use these interfaces. > > + > > + > > +Flags to control the action. See SCMI specification for > > +defined values. > > ? > > Please add the flags here, or at the very least provide a URL and page > number, etc. I intentionally avoid providing details here because a set of flags acceptable to a specific SCMI server may depend on the server and its implementation version. The interface on U-Boot is just a wrapper to make a call to SCMI server via a transport layer and doesn't care what the parameters means. That said, I agree to referring to a URL to SCMI specification somewhere in this document. Thanks, -Takahiro Akashi > > + > > +Example > > +--- > > + > > +Obtain basic information about SCMI server: > > + > > +:: > > + > > +=> scmi base info > > +SCMI device: scmi > > + protocol version: 0x2 > > + # of agents: 3 > > + 0: platform > > +> 1: OSPM > > + 2: PSCI > > + # of protocols: 4 > > + Power domain management > > + Performance domain management > > + Clock management > > + Sensor management > > + vendor: Linaro > > + sub vendor: PMWG > > + impl version: 0x20b > > + > > +Ask for access permission to device#0: > > + > > +:: > > + > > +=> scmi base perm_dev 1 0 1 > > + > > +Reset configurations with all access permission settings retained: > > + > > +:: > > + > > +=> scmi base reset 1 0 > > + > > +Configuration > > +- > > + > > +The scmi command is only available if CONFIG_CMD_SCMI=y. > > +Default n because this command is mainly for debug purpose. > > + > > +Return value > > + > > + > > +The return value ($?) is set to 0 if the operation succeeded, > > +1 if the operation failed or -1 if the operation failed due to > > +a syntax error. > > -- > > 2.41.0 > > > > Regards, > Simon
Re: [PATCH 09/10] doc: cmd: add documentation for scmi
Hi AKASHI, On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 01:49, AKASHI Takahiro wrote: > > This is a help text for scmi command. > > Signed-off-by: AKASHI Takahiro > --- > doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst | 98 ++ > 1 file changed, 98 insertions(+) > create mode 100644 doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > > diff --git a/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst b/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > new file mode 100644 > index ..20cdae4b877d > --- /dev/null > +++ b/doc/usage/cmd/scmi.rst > @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0+: > + > +scmi command > + > + > +Synopsis > + > + > +:: > + > +scmi base info > +scmi base perm_dev > +scmi base perm_proto > +scmi base reset > + > +Description > +--- > + > +The scmi command is used to access and operate on SCMI server. > + > +scmi base info > +~~ > +Show base information about SCMI server and supported protocols > + > +scmi base perm_dev > +~~ > +Allow or deny access permission to the device > + > +scmi base perm_proto > + > +Allow or deny access to the protocol on the device > + > +scmi base reset > +~~~ > +Reset the existing configurations > + > +Parameters are used as follows: > + > + > +Agent ID what is this? > + > + > +Device ID what is this? > + > + > +Protocol ID, should not be 0x10 (base protocol) what is this? Please add more detail > + > + > +Flags to control the action. See SCMI specification for > +defined values. ? Please add the flags here, or at the very least provide a URL and page number, etc. > + > +Example > +--- > + > +Obtain basic information about SCMI server: > + > +:: > + > +=> scmi base info > +SCMI device: scmi > + protocol version: 0x2 > + # of agents: 3 > + 0: platform > +> 1: OSPM > + 2: PSCI > + # of protocols: 4 > + Power domain management > + Performance domain management > + Clock management > + Sensor management > + vendor: Linaro > + sub vendor: PMWG > + impl version: 0x20b > + > +Ask for access permission to device#0: > + > +:: > + > +=> scmi base perm_dev 1 0 1 > + > +Reset configurations with all access permission settings retained: > + > +:: > + > +=> scmi base reset 1 0 > + > +Configuration > +- > + > +The scmi command is only available if CONFIG_CMD_SCMI=y. > +Default n because this command is mainly for debug purpose. > + > +Return value > + > + > +The return value ($?) is set to 0 if the operation succeeded, > +1 if the operation failed or -1 if the operation failed due to > +a syntax error. > -- > 2.41.0 > Regards, Simon
