Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2020-05-21 Thread Tom Rini
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 08:24:55PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 5/21/20 8:15 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> > Hi Marek,
> > 
> > On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 12:14, Marek Vasut  wrote:
> > 
> >> On 5/21/20 8:09 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> >>> Hi Marek,
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 12:06, Marek Vasut  wrote:
> >>>
>  On 5/21/20 7:52 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> > Hi Marek,
> 
>  Hi,
> 
> > You don't have to be signed in to view, just to edit. Etherpad is
> >> pretty
> > crappy IMO.
> 
>  Seems to work fine. But maybe there is some other alternative?
> 
>  (we can just log some irc channel?)
> 
> > I believe the next one will be 3rd week of June.
> 
>  Is there already some more precise date ?
> 
> >>>
> >>> At present it is the 3rd Monday of every month at 4PM UTC / 11AM US
> >> Eastern
> >>> / 8AM US Pacific.
> >>
> >> Oh, did I miss some of the previous ones ?
> >>
> >> Also, it might actually be better to make this an IRC meeting, to
> >> mitigate language barrier issues. I sometimes have trouble following
> >> fast spoken english myself.
> >>
> > 
> > We already discussed this further up the thread...we already have IRC, but
> > what we don't have is an actual meeting. We can try to speak slowly!
> 
> I suspect you want to get feedback on this part from others who don't
> have english as their native language. If others are fine with this, so
> be it.
> 
> What is the benefit of a telco compared to IRC anyway ?

Frankly with the current state of the world I feel like there's a lot of
people in video conf overload, so a scheduled IRC meeting might be
better anyhow.

-- 
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Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2020-05-21 Thread Marek Vasut
On 5/21/20 8:15 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Marek,
> 
> On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 12:14, Marek Vasut  wrote:
> 
>> On 5/21/20 8:09 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>> Hi Marek,
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 12:06, Marek Vasut  wrote:
>>>
 On 5/21/20 7:52 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Marek,

 Hi,

> You don't have to be signed in to view, just to edit. Etherpad is
>> pretty
> crappy IMO.

 Seems to work fine. But maybe there is some other alternative?

 (we can just log some irc channel?)

> I believe the next one will be 3rd week of June.

 Is there already some more precise date ?

>>>
>>> At present it is the 3rd Monday of every month at 4PM UTC / 11AM US
>> Eastern
>>> / 8AM US Pacific.
>>
>> Oh, did I miss some of the previous ones ?
>>
>> Also, it might actually be better to make this an IRC meeting, to
>> mitigate language barrier issues. I sometimes have trouble following
>> fast spoken english myself.
>>
> 
> We already discussed this further up the thread...we already have IRC, but
> what we don't have is an actual meeting. We can try to speak slowly!

I suspect you want to get feedback on this part from others who don't
have english as their native language. If others are fine with this, so
be it.

What is the benefit of a telco compared to IRC anyway ?


Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2020-05-21 Thread Simon Glass
Hi Marek,

On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 12:14, Marek Vasut  wrote:

> On 5/21/20 8:09 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> > Hi Marek,
>
> Hi,
>
> > On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 12:06, Marek Vasut  wrote:
> >
> >> On 5/21/20 7:52 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> >>> Hi Marek,
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>> You don't have to be signed in to view, just to edit. Etherpad is
> pretty
> >>> crappy IMO.
> >>
> >> Seems to work fine. But maybe there is some other alternative?
> >>
> >> (we can just log some irc channel?)
> >>
> >>> I believe the next one will be 3rd week of June.
> >>
> >> Is there already some more precise date ?
> >>
> >
> > At present it is the 3rd Monday of every month at 4PM UTC / 11AM US
> Eastern
> > / 8AM US Pacific.
>
> Oh, did I miss some of the previous ones ?
>
> Also, it might actually be better to make this an IRC meeting, to
> mitigate language barrier issues. I sometimes have trouble following
> fast spoken english myself.
>

We already discussed this further up the thread...we already have IRC, but
what we don't have is an actual meeting. We can try to speak slowly!

Regards,
Simon


Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2020-05-21 Thread Marek Vasut
On 5/21/20 8:09 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Marek,

Hi,

> On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 12:06, Marek Vasut  wrote:
> 
>> On 5/21/20 7:52 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>> Hi Marek,
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> You don't have to be signed in to view, just to edit. Etherpad is pretty
>>> crappy IMO.
>>
>> Seems to work fine. But maybe there is some other alternative?
>>
>> (we can just log some irc channel?)
>>
>>> I believe the next one will be 3rd week of June.
>>
>> Is there already some more precise date ?
>>
> 
> At present it is the 3rd Monday of every month at 4PM UTC / 11AM US Eastern
> / 8AM US Pacific.

Oh, did I miss some of the previous ones ?

Also, it might actually be better to make this an IRC meeting, to
mitigate language barrier issues. I sometimes have trouble following
fast spoken english myself.


Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2020-05-21 Thread Simon Glass
Hi Marek,

On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 12:06, Marek Vasut  wrote:

> On 5/21/20 7:52 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> > Hi Marek,
>
> Hi,
>
> > You don't have to be signed in to view, just to edit. Etherpad is pretty
> > crappy IMO.
>
> Seems to work fine. But maybe there is some other alternative?
>
> (we can just log some irc channel?)
>
> > I believe the next one will be 3rd week of June.
>
> Is there already some more precise date ?
>

At present it is the 3rd Monday of every month at 4PM UTC / 11AM US Eastern
/ 8AM US Pacific.

So 15 June.

Regards,
Simon


Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2020-05-21 Thread Marek Vasut
On 5/21/20 7:52 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Marek,

Hi,

> You don't have to be signed in to view, just to edit. Etherpad is pretty
> crappy IMO.

Seems to work fine. But maybe there is some other alternative?

(we can just log some irc channel?)

> I believe the next one will be 3rd week of June.

Is there already some more precise date ?


Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2020-05-21 Thread Tom Rini
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:52:24AM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Marek,
> 
> You don't have to be signed in to view, just to edit. Etherpad is pretty
> crappy IMO.
> 
> I believe the next one will be 3rd week of June.

I don't think we managed to ever have more than the first meeting.  So
if people want to start by suggesting a better time, we should start
there.

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Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2020-05-21 Thread Simon Glass
Hi Marek,

You don't have to be signed in to view, just to edit. Etherpad is pretty
crappy IMO.

I believe the next one will be 3rd week of June.

Regards,
Simon


On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 11:44, Marek Vasut  wrote:

> On 5/21/20 5:41 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 04:10, Marek Vasut  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2/18/19 5:00 AM, Tom Rini wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 03:48:58AM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
>  On 2/13/19 9:36 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 02:01:02AM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote:
> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:28 PM Tom Rini 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey all,
> >>>
> >>> So as I mentioned back in December[1], I was thinking of doing a
> >>> recurring community conference call.  I've gone ahead and
> scheduled one
> >>> now with Zoom (https://zoom.us/) as they work well enough with
> Linux as
> >>> a host.  For now, the time is 4PM UTC, which is 11AM US Eastern,
> 8AM US
> >>> Pacific.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting URL is: https://zoom.us/j/203089062 (and so the
> meeting
> >>> number is 203089062)
> >>>
> >>> For dial-in: +1 (646) 876-9923 <(646)%20876-9923> and world-wide
> local dial-in numbers are
> >>> found on: https://zoom.us/u/acnOQeSN
> >>
> >> Is this call scheduled? I'm trying zoom but unable to join.
> >
> > I can't believe I forgot that part in the plain text of the message
> and
> > not just the ics part.  The call is the 3rd Monday of every month at
> 4PM
> > UTC / 11AM US Eastern / 8AM US Pacific.
> 
>  That, sadly, excludes me from each and every one of those calls.
> 
>  Will there be any transcript for people who cannot join ?
> >>>
> >>> I don't plan to transcribe them, no.  I plan to treat these like the
> >>> in-person meetings we've had before, so there won't be any final
> >>> decisions made on the call.  But hopefully some topics to bring back to
> >>> the ML with more clarity.
> >>
> >> This doesn't help, I'd certainly like to know what was said in the
> meeting.
> >>
>  I think we should postpone the call, advertise it more first and
> decide
>  on a suitable time _before_ scheduling it again.
> >>>
> >>> I was hoping for more feedback, but we'll see who shows up tomorrow.
> >>> There's no good time for everyone, but as I've stated before if we get
> >>> interest in a more Asia-friendly time, we can do that.
> >>
> >> Maybe CCing some of the active contributors would help with that.
> >> And awareness, I talked to some and they were seldom aware of this call.
> >>
>  btw the zoom dial-in numbers link doesn't work, but I think this one
>  https://zoom.us/zoomconference should work.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting link won't work until closer to the call, yes.
> >
> > I forgot it but I just added it to my calendar for next time.
> >
> > It is easy enough to share a google doc with edit access so anyone can
> > write notes.
>
> Anyone with google account anyway, why not e.g. etherpad ?
> When is the next time ?
>


Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2020-05-21 Thread Marek Vasut
On 5/21/20 5:41 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 04:10, Marek Vasut  wrote:
>>
>> On 2/18/19 5:00 AM, Tom Rini wrote:
>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 03:48:58AM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
 On 2/13/19 9:36 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 02:01:02AM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:28 PM Tom Rini  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> So as I mentioned back in December[1], I was thinking of doing a
>>> recurring community conference call.  I've gone ahead and scheduled one
>>> now with Zoom (https://zoom.us/) as they work well enough with Linux as
>>> a host.  For now, the time is 4PM UTC, which is 11AM US Eastern, 8AM US
>>> Pacific.
>>>
>>> The meeting URL is: https://zoom.us/j/203089062 (and so the meeting
>>> number is 203089062)
>>>
>>> For dial-in: +1 (646) 876-9923 and world-wide local dial-in numbers are
>>> found on: https://zoom.us/u/acnOQeSN
>>
>> Is this call scheduled? I'm trying zoom but unable to join.
>
> I can't believe I forgot that part in the plain text of the message and
> not just the ics part.  The call is the 3rd Monday of every month at 4PM
> UTC / 11AM US Eastern / 8AM US Pacific.

 That, sadly, excludes me from each and every one of those calls.

 Will there be any transcript for people who cannot join ?
>>>
>>> I don't plan to transcribe them, no.  I plan to treat these like the
>>> in-person meetings we've had before, so there won't be any final
>>> decisions made on the call.  But hopefully some topics to bring back to
>>> the ML with more clarity.
>>
>> This doesn't help, I'd certainly like to know what was said in the meeting.
>>
 I think we should postpone the call, advertise it more first and decide
 on a suitable time _before_ scheduling it again.
>>>
>>> I was hoping for more feedback, but we'll see who shows up tomorrow.
>>> There's no good time for everyone, but as I've stated before if we get
>>> interest in a more Asia-friendly time, we can do that.
>>
>> Maybe CCing some of the active contributors would help with that.
>> And awareness, I talked to some and they were seldom aware of this call.
>>
 btw the zoom dial-in numbers link doesn't work, but I think this one
 https://zoom.us/zoomconference should work.
>>>
>>> The meeting link won't work until closer to the call, yes.
> 
> I forgot it but I just added it to my calendar for next time.
> 
> It is easy enough to share a google doc with edit access so anyone can
> write notes.

Anyone with google account anyway, why not e.g. etherpad ?
When is the next time ?


Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2020-05-21 Thread Simon Glass
Hi,

On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 04:10, Marek Vasut  wrote:
>
> On 2/18/19 5:00 AM, Tom Rini wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 03:48:58AM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> >> On 2/13/19 9:36 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 02:01:02AM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote:
>  On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:28 PM Tom Rini  wrote:
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > So as I mentioned back in December[1], I was thinking of doing a
> > recurring community conference call.  I've gone ahead and scheduled one
> > now with Zoom (https://zoom.us/) as they work well enough with Linux as
> > a host.  For now, the time is 4PM UTC, which is 11AM US Eastern, 8AM US
> > Pacific.
> >
> > The meeting URL is: https://zoom.us/j/203089062 (and so the meeting
> > number is 203089062)
> >
> > For dial-in: +1 (646) 876-9923 and world-wide local dial-in numbers are
> > found on: https://zoom.us/u/acnOQeSN
> 
>  Is this call scheduled? I'm trying zoom but unable to join.
> >>>
> >>> I can't believe I forgot that part in the plain text of the message and
> >>> not just the ics part.  The call is the 3rd Monday of every month at 4PM
> >>> UTC / 11AM US Eastern / 8AM US Pacific.
> >>
> >> That, sadly, excludes me from each and every one of those calls.
> >>
> >> Will there be any transcript for people who cannot join ?
> >
> > I don't plan to transcribe them, no.  I plan to treat these like the
> > in-person meetings we've had before, so there won't be any final
> > decisions made on the call.  But hopefully some topics to bring back to
> > the ML with more clarity.
>
> This doesn't help, I'd certainly like to know what was said in the meeting.
>
> >> I think we should postpone the call, advertise it more first and decide
> >> on a suitable time _before_ scheduling it again.
> >
> > I was hoping for more feedback, but we'll see who shows up tomorrow.
> > There's no good time for everyone, but as I've stated before if we get
> > interest in a more Asia-friendly time, we can do that.
>
> Maybe CCing some of the active contributors would help with that.
> And awareness, I talked to some and they were seldom aware of this call.
>
> >> btw the zoom dial-in numbers link doesn't work, but I think this one
> >> https://zoom.us/zoomconference should work.
> >
> > The meeting link won't work until closer to the call, yes.

I forgot it but I just added it to my calendar for next time.

It is easy enough to share a google doc with edit access so anyone can
write notes.

Regards,
SImon


Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2019-02-18 Thread Marek Vasut
On 2/18/19 5:00 AM, Tom Rini wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 03:48:58AM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
>> On 2/13/19 9:36 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 02:01:02AM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:28 PM Tom Rini  wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> So as I mentioned back in December[1], I was thinking of doing a
> recurring community conference call.  I've gone ahead and scheduled one
> now with Zoom (https://zoom.us/) as they work well enough with Linux as
> a host.  For now, the time is 4PM UTC, which is 11AM US Eastern, 8AM US
> Pacific.
>
> The meeting URL is: https://zoom.us/j/203089062 (and so the meeting
> number is 203089062)
>
> For dial-in: +1 (646) 876-9923 and world-wide local dial-in numbers are
> found on: https://zoom.us/u/acnOQeSN

 Is this call scheduled? I'm trying zoom but unable to join.
>>>
>>> I can't believe I forgot that part in the plain text of the message and
>>> not just the ics part.  The call is the 3rd Monday of every month at 4PM
>>> UTC / 11AM US Eastern / 8AM US Pacific.
>>
>> That, sadly, excludes me from each and every one of those calls.
>>
>> Will there be any transcript for people who cannot join ?
> 
> I don't plan to transcribe them, no.  I plan to treat these like the
> in-person meetings we've had before, so there won't be any final
> decisions made on the call.  But hopefully some topics to bring back to
> the ML with more clarity.

This doesn't help, I'd certainly like to know what was said in the meeting.

>> I think we should postpone the call, advertise it more first and decide
>> on a suitable time _before_ scheduling it again.
> 
> I was hoping for more feedback, but we'll see who shows up tomorrow.
> There's no good time for everyone, but as I've stated before if we get
> interest in a more Asia-friendly time, we can do that.

Maybe CCing some of the active contributors would help with that.
And awareness, I talked to some and they were seldom aware of this call.

>> btw the zoom dial-in numbers link doesn't work, but I think this one
>> https://zoom.us/zoomconference should work.
> 
> The meeting link won't work until closer to the call, yes.
> 


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Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2019-02-17 Thread Tom Rini
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 03:48:58AM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 2/13/19 9:36 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 02:01:02AM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote:
> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:28 PM Tom Rini  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey all,
> >>>
> >>> So as I mentioned back in December[1], I was thinking of doing a
> >>> recurring community conference call.  I've gone ahead and scheduled one
> >>> now with Zoom (https://zoom.us/) as they work well enough with Linux as
> >>> a host.  For now, the time is 4PM UTC, which is 11AM US Eastern, 8AM US
> >>> Pacific.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting URL is: https://zoom.us/j/203089062 (and so the meeting
> >>> number is 203089062)
> >>>
> >>> For dial-in: +1 (646) 876-9923 and world-wide local dial-in numbers are
> >>> found on: https://zoom.us/u/acnOQeSN
> >>
> >> Is this call scheduled? I'm trying zoom but unable to join.
> > 
> > I can't believe I forgot that part in the plain text of the message and
> > not just the ics part.  The call is the 3rd Monday of every month at 4PM
> > UTC / 11AM US Eastern / 8AM US Pacific.
> 
> That, sadly, excludes me from each and every one of those calls.
> 
> Will there be any transcript for people who cannot join ?

I don't plan to transcribe them, no.  I plan to treat these like the
in-person meetings we've had before, so there won't be any final
decisions made on the call.  But hopefully some topics to bring back to
the ML with more clarity.

> I think we should postpone the call, advertise it more first and decide
> on a suitable time _before_ scheduling it again.

I was hoping for more feedback, but we'll see who shows up tomorrow.
There's no good time for everyone, but as I've stated before if we get
interest in a more Asia-friendly time, we can do that.

> btw the zoom dial-in numbers link doesn't work, but I think this one
> https://zoom.us/zoomconference should work.

The meeting link won't work until closer to the call, yes.

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Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2019-02-17 Thread Marek Vasut
On 2/13/19 9:36 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 02:01:02AM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:28 PM Tom Rini  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> So as I mentioned back in December[1], I was thinking of doing a
>>> recurring community conference call.  I've gone ahead and scheduled one
>>> now with Zoom (https://zoom.us/) as they work well enough with Linux as
>>> a host.  For now, the time is 4PM UTC, which is 11AM US Eastern, 8AM US
>>> Pacific.
>>>
>>> The meeting URL is: https://zoom.us/j/203089062 (and so the meeting
>>> number is 203089062)
>>>
>>> For dial-in: +1 (646) 876-9923 and world-wide local dial-in numbers are
>>> found on: https://zoom.us/u/acnOQeSN
>>
>> Is this call scheduled? I'm trying zoom but unable to join.
> 
> I can't believe I forgot that part in the plain text of the message and
> not just the ics part.  The call is the 3rd Monday of every month at 4PM
> UTC / 11AM US Eastern / 8AM US Pacific.

That, sadly, excludes me from each and every one of those calls.

Will there be any transcript for people who cannot join ?

I think we should postpone the call, advertise it more first and decide
on a suitable time _before_ scheduling it again.

btw the zoom dial-in numbers link doesn't work, but I think this one
https://zoom.us/zoomconference should work.

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Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2019-02-13 Thread Tom Rini
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 02:01:02AM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:28 PM Tom Rini  wrote:
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > So as I mentioned back in December[1], I was thinking of doing a
> > recurring community conference call.  I've gone ahead and scheduled one
> > now with Zoom (https://zoom.us/) as they work well enough with Linux as
> > a host.  For now, the time is 4PM UTC, which is 11AM US Eastern, 8AM US
> > Pacific.
> >
> > The meeting URL is: https://zoom.us/j/203089062 (and so the meeting
> > number is 203089062)
> >
> > For dial-in: +1 (646) 876-9923 and world-wide local dial-in numbers are
> > found on: https://zoom.us/u/acnOQeSN
> 
> Is this call scheduled? I'm trying zoom but unable to join.

I can't believe I forgot that part in the plain text of the message and
not just the ics part.  The call is the 3rd Monday of every month at 4PM
UTC / 11AM US Eastern / 8AM US Pacific.

-- 
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Re: [U-Boot] [ANN] Monthly developer call

2019-02-13 Thread Jagan Teki
On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:28 PM Tom Rini  wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> So as I mentioned back in December[1], I was thinking of doing a
> recurring community conference call.  I've gone ahead and scheduled one
> now with Zoom (https://zoom.us/) as they work well enough with Linux as
> a host.  For now, the time is 4PM UTC, which is 11AM US Eastern, 8AM US
> Pacific.
>
> The meeting URL is: https://zoom.us/j/203089062 (and so the meeting
> number is 203089062)
>
> For dial-in: +1 (646) 876-9923 and world-wide local dial-in numbers are
> found on: https://zoom.us/u/acnOQeSN

Is this call scheduled? I'm trying zoom but unable to join.
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