Re: [U-Boot] Question regarding FPGA firmware load in u-boot

2009-06-22 Thread Dieter Kiermaier
André,

 Dieter,

 On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 17:46 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
  Hello List,
 
  I want to boot a (Lattice) FPGA from u-boot by using Slave Serial
  configuration on a Marvell Kirkwood device.

 Should be no problem as long as you'll have access to GPIO.

I'm working on it :)
But more likely I would have the SPI controller to do the serializing of the 
bitstream. But maybe this would be the second step.

  As seen there is an (Xilinx and Altera) FPGA loader driver allready
  available in u-boot.
  Please can somebody explain how I have to provide a FPGA bitstream
  image to u-boot?

 The easiest way is to reserve some unused flash sectors and use the
 first sector's start adress as arg for fpga load.


I assume this will only work with NOR flash, right?
If I'm using NAND flash I have to copy the image to ram first?

  It seems I have to create a image with mkimage?

 no - Lattice specififc bitstream can be stored in raw format.
 mkimage may be useful for update, but personally I prefer update via
 dedicated linux mtd partition.

  This image have to be loaded into ram and the address has to be provided
  to the load command?

 Usually an FPGA is *very* board specific. I'd suggest to use flash and
 create a corresponding mtd partition for linux, i.e. make it
 maintainable.

Seems to be a good way.
Is there a cmd in u-boot to read a file from a jffs2 filesystem inside a nand 
flash partition?

  Is there a maintainer for the FPGA code inside u-boot?
  I'm willing to contribute some extensions for Lattice FPGAs if I'm
  successful!

 excellent - all you'll need is the Lattice specific bit toggle sequence.

 submitting a proper patch will surely do.

I'm trying to get an idea what place is the best to integrate the lattice 
architecture in to the fpga framework.
If I have any further questions - can I ask you again?


 Regards,

 André

Many thanks for helping,
Dieter



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Re: [U-Boot] Question regarding FPGA firmware load in u-boot

2009-06-22 Thread André Schwarz
Dieter,

On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 08:19 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
 André,
 
  Dieter,
 
  On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 17:46 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
   Hello List,
  
   I want to boot a (Lattice) FPGA from u-boot by using Slave Serial
   configuration on a Marvell Kirkwood device.
 
  Should be no problem as long as you'll have access to GPIO.
 
 I'm working on it :)
 But more likely I would have the SPI controller to do the serializing of the 
 bitstream. But maybe this would be the second step.

Bitbanging is not critical and works pretty fast.
You definitely have to control maximum frequency and observe errors
during load. If you'll use SPI make sure to disconnect the bus from the
FPGA and keep the config pins in a sane state.

 
   As seen there is an (Xilinx and Altera) FPGA loader driver allready
   available in u-boot.
   Please can somebody explain how I have to provide a FPGA bitstream
   image to u-boot?
 
  The easiest way is to reserve some unused flash sectors and use the
  first sector's start adress as arg for fpga load.
 
 
 I assume this will only work with NOR flash, right?

I'm using NOR flash, but it will work with any adressable memory.

 If I'm using NAND flash I have to copy the image to ram first?

yes.

 
   It seems I have to create a image with mkimage?

you can store e.g. fpga.bin as a single file inside jffs, read it and
load your fpga. 

 
  no - Lattice specififc bitstream can be stored in raw format.
  mkimage may be useful for update, but personally I prefer update via
  dedicated linux mtd partition.
 
   This image have to be loaded into ram and the address has to be provided
   to the load command?
 
  Usually an FPGA is *very* board specific. I'd suggest to use flash and
  create a corresponding mtd partition for linux, i.e. make it
  maintainable.
 

 Seems to be a good way.

yes - but not for jffs2 on NAND. You can use a plain binary file
instead.

 Is there a cmd in u-boot to read a file from a jffs2 filesystem inside a nand 
 flash partition?

Have a look at the end of common/cmd_jffs2.c : fsload is the one for
you.

 
   Is there a maintainer for the FPGA code inside u-boot?
   I'm willing to contribute some extensions for Lattice FPGAs if I'm
   successful!
 
  excellent - all you'll need is the Lattice specific bit toggle sequence.
 
  submitting a proper patch will surely do.
 
 I'm trying to get an idea what place is the best to integrate the lattice 
 architecture in to the fpga framework.
 If I have any further questions - can I ask you again?

of course, but since I'm a PowerPC user I can't tell anything specific
to ARM ...


Cheers,

André
 
 
  Regards,
 
  André
 
 Many thanks for helping,
 Dieter

 
   Thanks to all,
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Re: [U-Boot] Question regarding FPGA firmware load in u-boot

2009-06-22 Thread Dieter Kiermaier
André,

 Dieter,

 On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 08:19 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
  André,
 
   Dieter,
  
   On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 17:46 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
Hello List,
   
I want to boot a (Lattice) FPGA from u-boot by using Slave Serial
configuration on a Marvell Kirkwood device.
  
   Should be no problem as long as you'll have access to GPIO.
 
  I'm working on it :)
  But more likely I would have the SPI controller to do the serializing of
  the bitstream. But maybe this would be the second step.

 Bitbanging is not critical and works pretty fast.
 You definitely have to control maximum frequency and observe errors
 during load. If you'll use SPI make sure to disconnect the bus from the
 FPGA and keep the config pins in a sane state.

Do you have some time values how long your FPGA needs to boot by using 
bitbanging?

As seen there is an (Xilinx and Altera) FPGA loader driver allready
available in u-boot.
Please can somebody explain how I have to provide a FPGA bitstream
image to u-boot?
  
   The easiest way is to reserve some unused flash sectors and use the
   first sector's start adress as arg for fpga load.
 
  I assume this will only work with NOR flash, right?

 I'm using NOR flash, but it will work with any adressable memory.

  If I'm using NAND flash I have to copy the image to ram first?

 yes.

It seems I have to create a image with mkimage?

 you can store e.g. fpga.bin as a single file inside jffs, read it and
 load your fpga.

   no - Lattice specififc bitstream can be stored in raw format.
   mkimage may be useful for update, but personally I prefer update via
   dedicated linux mtd partition.
  
This image have to be loaded into ram and the address has to be
provided to the load command?
  
   Usually an FPGA is *very* board specific. I'd suggest to use flash and
   create a corresponding mtd partition for linux, i.e. make it
   maintainable.
 
  Seems to be a good way.

 yes - but not for jffs2 on NAND. You can use a plain binary file
 instead.

  Is there a cmd in u-boot to read a file from a jffs2 filesystem inside a
  nand flash partition?

 Have a look at the end of common/cmd_jffs2.c : fsload is the one for
 you.

Thanks for that link :)

Is there a maintainer for the FPGA code inside u-boot?
I'm willing to contribute some extensions for Lattice FPGAs if I'm
successful!
  
   excellent - all you'll need is the Lattice specific bit toggle
   sequence.
  
   submitting a proper patch will surely do.
 
  I'm trying to get an idea what place is the best to integrate the lattice
  architecture in to the fpga framework.
  If I have any further questions - can I ask you again?

 of course, but since I'm a PowerPC user I can't tell anything specific
 to ARM ...

Thanks again!

So I would try to bring it up and see what happens :)

Dieter


 Cheers,

 André

   Regards,
  
   André
 
  Many thanks for helping,
  Dieter
 
Thanks to all,
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Re: [U-Boot] Question regarding FPGA firmware load in u-boot

2009-06-22 Thread André Schwarz
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 11:00 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
 André,
 
  Dieter,
 
  On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 08:19 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
   André,
  
Dieter,
   
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 17:46 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
 Hello List,

 I want to boot a (Lattice) FPGA from u-boot by using Slave Serial
 configuration on a Marvell Kirkwood device.
   
Should be no problem as long as you'll have access to GPIO.
  
   I'm working on it :)
   But more likely I would have the SPI controller to do the serializing of
   the bitstream. But maybe this would be the second step.
 
  Bitbanging is not critical and works pretty fast.
  You definitely have to control maximum frequency and observe errors
  during load. If you'll use SPI make sure to disconnect the bus from the
  FPGA and keep the config pins in a sane state.
 
 Do you have some time values how long your FPGA needs to boot by using 
 bitbanging?

less than a second.

 
 As seen there is an (Xilinx and Altera) FPGA loader driver allready
 available in u-boot.
 Please can somebody explain how I have to provide a FPGA bitstream
 image to u-boot?
   
The easiest way is to reserve some unused flash sectors and use the
first sector's start adress as arg for fpga load.
  
   I assume this will only work with NOR flash, right?
 
  I'm using NOR flash, but it will work with any adressable memory.
 
   If I'm using NAND flash I have to copy the image to ram first?
 
  yes.
 
 It seems I have to create a image with mkimage?
 
  you can store e.g. fpga.bin as a single file inside jffs, read it and
  load your fpga.
 
no - Lattice specififc bitstream can be stored in raw format.
mkimage may be useful for update, but personally I prefer update via
dedicated linux mtd partition.
   
 This image have to be loaded into ram and the address has to be
 provided to the load command?
   
Usually an FPGA is *very* board specific. I'd suggest to use flash and
create a corresponding mtd partition for linux, i.e. make it
maintainable.
  
   Seems to be a good way.
 
  yes - but not for jffs2 on NAND. You can use a plain binary file
  instead.
 
   Is there a cmd in u-boot to read a file from a jffs2 filesystem inside a
   nand flash partition?
 
  Have a look at the end of common/cmd_jffs2.c : fsload is the one for
  you.
 
 Thanks for that link :)
 
 Is there a maintainer for the FPGA code inside u-boot?
 I'm willing to contribute some extensions for Lattice FPGAs if I'm
 successful!
   
excellent - all you'll need is the Lattice specific bit toggle
sequence.
   
submitting a proper patch will surely do.
  
   I'm trying to get an idea what place is the best to integrate the lattice
   architecture in to the fpga framework.
   If I have any further questions - can I ask you again?
 
  of course, but since I'm a PowerPC user I can't tell anything specific
  to ARM ...
 
 Thanks again!
 
 So I would try to bring it up and see what happens :)

yes - to get it done quickly I'd recommend to add a new Lattice device
family. Please create e.g. drivers/fpga/lattice.c and lattice_ecp3.c
(matching your device) according to the xilinx and altera templates.
It will integrate into common/cmd_fpga.c smoothly.

GPIO accessor functions have to be defined inside the board specific
code. If you definitely want to use spi please do it there, i.e. *not*
in the general code unless this is useful for all boards.

You can have a look at board/matrix_vision/mvbc_p/fpga.c+h

Regards,

André

 
 Dieter
 
 
  Cheers,
 
  André
 
Regards,
   
André
  
   Many thanks for helping,
   Dieter
  
 Thanks to all,
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Re: [U-Boot] Question regarding FPGA firmware load in u-boot

2009-06-22 Thread Dieter Kiermaier
Prafulla,


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  [mailto:u-boot-boun...@lists.denx.de] On Behalf Of Dieter Kiermaier
  Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:30 PM
  To: André Schwarz
  Cc: u-boot@lists.denx.de
  Subject: Re: [U-Boot] Question regarding FPGA firmware load in u-boot
 
  André,
 
   Dieter,
  
   On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 08:19 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
André,
   
 Dieter,

 On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 17:46 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
  Hello List,
 
  I want to boot a (Lattice) FPGA from u-boot by using Slave
  Serial configuration on a Marvell Kirkwood device.

 Should be no problem as long as you'll have access to GPIO.
   
I'm working on it :)
But more likely I would have the SPI controller to do the
serializing of the bitstream. But maybe this would be the
 
  second step.

 Hi
 Pls see my patch, hopefully this is useful for you
 http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2009-June/053605.html

Thanks for pointing to it.
But as I tried to explain, the common SPI driver is useless for my board due 
to the kirkwood pin multiplexing. Thats why I asked for a TDM module based 
SPI driver in the past.
(Please see my comment on the openplug wiki from today morning for a more 
detailed explanation)

Dieter


 Regards..
 Prafulla . .


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Re: [U-Boot] Question regarding FPGA firmware load in u-boot

2009-06-22 Thread Dieter Kiermaier
Am Montag 22 Juni 2009 11:17:34 schrieb André Schwarz:
 On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 11:00 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
  André,
 
   Dieter,
  
   On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 08:19 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
André,
   
 Dieter,

 On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 17:46 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
  Hello List,
 
  I want to boot a (Lattice) FPGA from u-boot by using Slave Serial
  configuration on a Marvell Kirkwood device.

 Should be no problem as long as you'll have access to GPIO.
   
I'm working on it :)
But more likely I would have the SPI controller to do the serializing
of the bitstream. But maybe this would be the second step.
  
   Bitbanging is not critical and works pretty fast.
   You definitely have to control maximum frequency and observe errors
   during load. If you'll use SPI make sure to disconnect the bus from the
   FPGA and keep the config pins in a sane state.
 
  Do you have some time values how long your FPGA needs to boot by using
  bitbanging?

 less than a second.

Thats fine!

  As seen there is an (Xilinx and Altera) FPGA loader driver
  allready available in u-boot.
  Please can somebody explain how I have to provide a FPGA
  bitstream image to u-boot?

 The easiest way is to reserve some unused flash sectors and use the
 first sector's start adress as arg for fpga load.
   
I assume this will only work with NOR flash, right?
  
   I'm using NOR flash, but it will work with any adressable memory.
  
If I'm using NAND flash I have to copy the image to ram first?
  
   yes.
  
  It seems I have to create a image with mkimage?
  
   you can store e.g. fpga.bin as a single file inside jffs, read it and
   load your fpga.
  
 no - Lattice specififc bitstream can be stored in raw format.
 mkimage may be useful for update, but personally I prefer update
 via dedicated linux mtd partition.

  This image have to be loaded into ram and the address has to be
  provided to the load command?

 Usually an FPGA is *very* board specific. I'd suggest to use flash
 and create a corresponding mtd partition for linux, i.e. make it
 maintainable.
   
Seems to be a good way.
  
   yes - but not for jffs2 on NAND. You can use a plain binary file
   instead.
  
Is there a cmd in u-boot to read a file from a jffs2 filesystem
inside a nand flash partition?
  
   Have a look at the end of common/cmd_jffs2.c : fsload is the one for
   you.
 
  Thanks for that link :)
 
  Is there a maintainer for the FPGA code inside u-boot?
  I'm willing to contribute some extensions for Lattice FPGAs if
  I'm successful!

 excellent - all you'll need is the Lattice specific bit toggle
 sequence.

 submitting a proper patch will surely do.
   
I'm trying to get an idea what place is the best to integrate the
lattice architecture in to the fpga framework.
If I have any further questions - can I ask you again?
  
   of course, but since I'm a PowerPC user I can't tell anything specific
   to ARM ...
 
  Thanks again!
 
  So I would try to bring it up and see what happens :)

 yes - to get it done quickly I'd recommend to add a new Lattice device
 family. Please create e.g. drivers/fpga/lattice.c and lattice_ecp3.c
 (matching your device) according to the xilinx and altera templates.
 It will integrate into common/cmd_fpga.c smoothly.

 GPIO accessor functions have to be defined inside the board specific
 code. If you definitely want to use spi please do it there, i.e. *not*
 in the general code unless this is useful for all boards.

 You can have a look at board/matrix_vision/mvbc_p/fpga.c+h


Ahh, thats what I want to hear. This will save much time to figure  it all 
out.
Sorry, but I'm a newbie compared with all these experts here. So what is clear 
for everybody isn't clear for me (at least until now...)
But hopefully this becomes better :)

Many thanks!
Cheers,
Dieter


 Regards,

 André

  Dieter
 
   Cheers,
  
   André
  
 Regards,

 André
   
Many thanks for helping,
Dieter
   
  Thanks to all,
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Re: [U-Boot] Question regarding FPGA firmware load in u-boot

2009-06-20 Thread André Schwarz
Dieter,

On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 17:46 +0200, Dieter Kiermaier wrote:
 Hello List,
 
 I want to boot a (Lattice) FPGA from u-boot by using Slave Serial 
 configuration on a Marvell Kirkwood device.

Should be no problem as long as you'll have access to GPIO.

 As seen there is an (Xilinx and Altera) FPGA loader driver allready available 
 in u-boot.
 Please can somebody explain how I have to provide a FPGA bitstream
 image to u-boot?

The easiest way is to reserve some unused flash sectors and use the
first sector's start adress as arg for fpga load.

 It seems I have to create a image with mkimage?

no - Lattice specififc bitstream can be stored in raw format.
mkimage may be useful for update, but personally I prefer update via
dedicated linux mtd partition.

 This image have to be loaded into ram and the address has to be provided to 
 the load command?

Usually an FPGA is *very* board specific. I'd suggest to use flash and
create a corresponding mtd partition for linux, i.e. make it
maintainable.

 Is there a maintainer for the FPGA code inside u-boot?
 I'm willing to contribute some extensions for Lattice FPGAs if I'm successful!
excellent - all you'll need is the Lattice specific bit toggle sequence.

submitting a proper patch will surely do.


Regards,

André

 
 Thanks to all,
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