Re: [U2] Hosted UniData & UniVerse (generic response)
Stephen, can you clarify please - when you say host, I presume you mean 'be the hosting service provider' and not an end user who has their hardware in a hosting centre rgds Symeon. On 09/08/06, Stephen O'Neal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just make sure your on the same O/S. Don't go windows to *nix for > example. We had this at one customer site and they had a "Learning > Experience".:-( > > Make sure you test it too, about once or twice a year, just to make sure > nothing has changed. > > Only U2 OEM Partners can run "Hosted" systems. If you pay maintenance > directly to IBM and are a direct end user, you cannot "Host". Check with > your U2 License person. > > And lastly, U2 Licensing & maint fees *may change. At a minimum, you have > to execute a new license agreement when you move from single system to > hosted. >Steve > > > > > > "David Wolverton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 08/09/2006 08:53 AM > Please respond to > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > > To > > cc > > Subject > [U2] Hosted UniData > > > > > > > We have a customer wanting to review options for 'Outsourcing' their > servers > - either to a CoLocation facility, or a fully hosted site. > > Does anyone have their servers for UniData CoLo or Hosted, and if so, > would > you mind sharing your provider and experience? > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Unidata proc manual
The "buffer stuff" is exactly where the confusion for non-"proc'"-ies happens. I had to figure out that a proc was counting down the number of times it was executing a section of commands to perform copies of reports. Original Message Follows From: "Allen E. Elwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To: Subject: RE: [U2] Unidata proc manual Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 13:24:06 -0700 Well, anything you can do in Uniquery can be used in a proc, and they do have the online Uniquery documentation. I have not really seen any 'proc' language per se as there really isn't one. i.e., there are no commands that only work in a proc *that I'm aware of*. None of that buffer stuff, etc. Just do the things in the exact same order that you would do it at Uniquery and it just works like magic. I was actually quite happy when M2K went from Microdata to Unidata, as I got to 'forget' all the proc commands as they were no longer necessary. However, I've dealt almost exclusively with Manage-2000 so there could be other stuff that others are using that I'm unaware of. hth! Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karjala Koponen Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 13:00 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Unidata proc manual I've never seen one. I came from a Prime environment to UniData and, of course, didn't have a clue how to interpret all the procs. I finally found the MicroData manuals from before the company's conversion to UniData and used those. Based on my experience, I'd guess that proc manuals for other environments would generally work. The trick, of course, is knowing when a command or syntax is different or has different results between UniData and the manual you have at hand. I worked on building mechanisms that allowed me to use paragraphs and other documented procedures in a proc environment. Seemed to work. Always thought that as procs are a (semi)supported environment that UniData could have a manual that would allow a person to understand procs. Karjala -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:50 PM To: U2 Subject: [U2] Unidata proc manual Has anyone ever seen a unidata proc manual? I can't find any reference, other than some information on user exits -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Installing UniObjects on Linux
Adrian, It may have something to do with my applet security posts. I was advised to use a jar rather than zip in my applet and it helped. I also know that you can't gcj compile the zip. Does that help? FYI I ditched the applet due to finding a better method of validating using java scripts and servlets. I did work but it was not user friendly in IE. Jeff On Thu, 2006-08-10 at 09:48 +1200, Adrian Merrall wrote: > Dona, > > On 8/10/06, Dona Gibbons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Got it working on linux now. Moved the asjava.zip file into the lib > > directory of the java jdk folder and determine the classpath to work with > > it. Now I am trying to get the Unicommand to execute query paragraphs. > > One of these days I'll remember the class loader problems with zip's > exactly. Sad or worrying because this exact issue came up a month or > so back, my memory must be going. > > One of the class loaders will process jar files only, not zip files. > I'm pretty sure this is Tomcat not the jre but if you fall into this > problem, simply rename the zip as a jar and it will work. > > Regards, > > Adrian > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Files reporting as "changing" during backup...
1. SUSPEND.FILES ON a. a SAN "snap" while suspended Ours takes < 2 seconds start to finish (pause to resume). c. tar backup to a disk file [ fastest online method ] Faster still, run an rsync to disk before pausing the database, then again while paused. This way only the changes between the two rsyncs are copied. The downside of this of course if the time between pause and resume is unpredictable whereas snapping or mirror splits is predictable. Also as Jay Jay says, while this will ensure file integrity, it will not ensure referential integrity. Regards, Adrian --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Installing UniObjects on Linux
Dona, On 8/10/06, Dona Gibbons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Got it working on linux now. Moved the asjava.zip file into the lib directory of the java jdk folder and determine the classpath to work with it. Now I am trying to get the Unicommand to execute query paragraphs. One of these days I'll remember the class loader problems with zip's exactly. Sad or worrying because this exact issue came up a month or so back, my memory must be going. One of the class loaders will process jar files only, not zip files. I'm pretty sure this is Tomcat not the jre but if you fall into this problem, simply rename the zip as a jar and it will work. Regards, Adrian --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Files reporting as "changing" during backup...
SUSPEND.FILES ON - this is a minimum. What you are seeing is fairly predictable if the database is not quiescent. Best Bets: 1. SUSPEND.FILES ON Then one of: a. a SAN "snap" while suspended b. split a mirror while suspended - backup the mirror offline - and re-sync c. tar backup to a disk file [ fastest online method ] Then SUSPEND.FILES OFF Optionally you could "uvbackup" to a disk file and then tar backup the uvbackup separately (possibly after a "compress"). However while this will give you file integrity it will also take longer to run (it respects locks) and will not maintain referential integrity if the database is still being updated. If the database is not quiescent the database you will lose referential integrity at best - at worst some files may be corrupted when you restore them. Always remember the reason you take a backup is to secure and protect the business interest in the data. The possibility of a "bad" backup only serves to give a false sense of security. Even if you can recover the damaged files it is not guaranteed and it is still down time and affects the business. Remember to test the recovery procedures full-bore from time to time - if you haven't tested recovery from your backup strategy [without notice !!] you will never know if it works. You will know it works after the system has been reasonably exercised and applications have successfully used and reconciled recently updated files and data after recovery - not just after the data has been restored. (Oh the stories) A blast from the past: 1. When taking a full backup each weekend and an incremental backup every night please change the tape - yes - I mean at all - not just every now and then. 2. If you get a catastrophic disk failure keep your backup tape (Note: the only one - see "changing tapes" above) until the disk is replaced, formatted and restored. You know - the one that (once) had all (or at least some) of the data on it. The one you still overwrite in the daily tape cycle every night. The daily tape cycle that (now) has no data on it. 3. Please feel free to ask your application software supplier for your own system's root password because no one left in the Company (mass cull) knows it. 4. You might feel a little embarrassed if you have to also ask not only which room the computer is in but which office and which site.. (Answer: the empty one in another city with no people in it and a drift of mail behind the door - see "mass cull" above). 5. Don't get cross at your software supplier if they don't know your system's root passwords (see 3 above). 6. Feel free to be relieved at finding the root password written on the wall next to the light switch (no brownie points though for this faux pas though). 7. Oh yes - embarrassment is no longer sufficient and we have to resort to outright chagrin if you had also not renewed the hardware maintenance when notified (see both "drift of mail" and "mass cull" above) and you have to wait months for new disk drives (no support contract / waiting list / etc). 8. Please do not feel offended if your application supplier cannot install the application software on your (only file system remaining) root file system as it does not have enough space - a quart into a shot glass does not fit. So the system is down. You have no data backup at all. (After many weeks delay) you have just received your new hard disks (paying full market value) and cajoled the engineer into installing, making file systems, formatting and mounting them (as no one knew how to do it (see "mass cull" above). You want your application supplier to get your application back (easy - clean install. You can luckily tick the box on this one as you are still (just) inside their annual software maintenance period. :-) Please do not take it personally when you ask your application provider to reload your many wealth of gathered data (personnel records / sales history / stock .) and they ask you for good backup tapes they can use first. (See 1 [changing tapes] and 2 [stopping backups after a catastrophic failure] above). Oh yes - you are now inside the notice period for your application maintenance and have to pay another year for support on the application which is now back up but which has no data. Regards JayJay --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Change command prompt character
UVPROMPT command sort of does this, but it only allows a single character. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:22 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Change command prompt character Does anyone know if you can change the TCL(ECL) prompt character? I'd like to be able to put some text in there. Example: Server> or Account> Bob Woodward Senior Programmer/Analyst Harbor Wholesale Grocery --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] telent services on UniVers takes a dive and no one can log in.
Not sure, but you can always check... Try disabling the power management in the BIOS. It's possible the system may be going into a power save mode, and cutting power to the network card. I know we had issues with that here but the other end, the clients kept losing their telnet connections after 10-15 min of inactivity. We thought it was the autologout not working properly, but it turned out they were typing anything at all, and power management kicked in and the network card dropped the connection. Does anyone use the server directly (keyboard/mouse) ? or is it only used when a problem comes up? George > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave R > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 2:37 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] telent services on UniVers takes a dive and no > one can log > in. > > > I have a client running UniVerse on Win 2003 server. > Now and then the TELNET services hangs and won't let anyone > log on. I have to > reboot the server. Sometimes if I log off the users the > telnet services will > come back up. > I have switched network cards but I get the same problem. > I have tried to stop the UniVerse services but when I do they will not > restart. > The telnet session, flashes a messages that it can't connect > about 100 times a > second. > > D Raven > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cell (949)2282224 > e Fax (815)4259364 > P.O. Box 17811, Irvine CA 92623-7811 > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] telent services on UniVers takes a dive and no one can log in.
Dave, We had a very similar type problem with an in house ASP server last year. After working with IBM on the issue we upgraded to SP4 and the latest version of UniVerse, which was 10.1.11 at the time. That was Aug 29th of last year. We have not experienced the problem since then. Might be worth a try. Mike Mike Dallaire Mortgage Builder Software Inc. (248) 304-0600 ext. 103 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mortgagebuilder.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave R Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 2:37 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] telent services on UniVers takes a dive and no one can log in. I have a client running UniVerse on Win 2003 server. Now and then the TELNET services hangs and won't let anyone log on. I have to reboot the server. Sometimes if I log off the users the telnet services will come back up. I have switched network cards but I get the same problem. I have tried to stop the UniVerse services but when I do they will not restart. The telnet session, flashes a messages that it can't connect about 100 times a second. D Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell (949)2282224 e Fax (815)4259364 P.O. Box 17811, Irvine CA 92623-7811 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Change command prompt character
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:22 AM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] Change command prompt character > > Does anyone know if you can change the TCL(ECL) prompt character? I'd > like to be able to put some text in there. Example: Server> > or Account> I wrote a BP TCL wrapper years ago that changes the prompt to Account>. AFAIK, that's the only way to do it. It enables all the "dot" commands to work, so it's fairly elaborate. I'd be happy to send it to you off-list if you're interested. This is for UV, BTW. Don't know if it's compatible with UD. -John --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] telent services on UniVers takes a dive and no one can log in.
I have a client running UniVerse on Win 2003 server. Now and then the TELNET services hangs and won't let anyone log on. I have to reboot the server. Sometimes if I log off the users the telnet services will come back up. I have switched network cards but I get the same problem. I have tried to stop the UniVerse services but when I do they will not restart. The telnet session, flashes a messages that it can't connect about 100 times a second. D Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell (949)2282224 e Fax (815)4259364 P.O. Box 17811, Irvine CA 92623-7811 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Change command prompt character
Does anyone know if you can change the TCL(ECL) prompt character? I'd like to be able to put some text in there. Example: Server> or Account> Bob Woodward Senior Programmer/Analyst Harbor Wholesale Grocery --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] FW: Opening
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew McLaughlin Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 13:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ManageUG2K] Opening Howdy all, First of all, a quick note to let everyone know, I've decided to resign from Shurflo and get back in to full time Java development. Woohoo! :) My last day here is 8/11. Now, my position will be open and we're interested in interviewing a suitable replacement. Anyone with M2K experience and good programming skills is a candidate. The office is located in beautiful Cypress, CA (Orange County). If you or someone else you know is interested, please send resume or CV directly to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Andrew __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar You are receiving Individual Emails Change Delivery Settings Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS a.. Business application software b.. Business application development c.. Business application d.. Epicor Yahoo! HotJobs Be Discovered! Employers find you Upload your resume New web site? Drive traffic now. Get your business on Yahoo! search. Y! Messenger Talk it up - free! Call your friends worldwide - free! . __,_._,___ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Hosted UniData
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David Wolverton > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:53 AM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] Hosted UniData > > We have a customer wanting to review options for > 'Outsourcing' their servers > - either to a CoLocation facility, or a fully hosted site. > > Does anyone have their servers for UniData CoLo or Hosted, > and if so, would > you mind sharing your provider and experience? We've had our UV server colo'd at one of SBC's (now AT&T) data centers for about 5 years, and have been happy with their service. They provide what you'd expect from a hardened data center: Multiple layers of physical security - you pass through 2 man traps and a biometric palm scan to get on the data center floor. Connections to multiple power grids and redundant diesel generators. 24x7 access. 24x7 staffed NOC if you need something power-cycled (i.e. a hung Windows server). Data center floor elevated above the flood plane. Built to withstand a 7.4 earthquake. A fire suppression system that won't damage electronics. Redundant internet connections to your cabinet. As Symeon noted, the software you're running is irrelevant to your colo provider since you manage the servers yourself. AFAIK, SBC only had 2 data centers prior to the merger with AT&T (southern California and west Texas), but I think AT&T had a few more. They also offer some degree of managed hosting, but I've never checked into the details. -John --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Hosted UniData & UniVerse (generic response)
Just make sure your on the same O/S. Don't go windows to *nix for example. We had this at one customer site and they had a "Learning Experience".:-( Make sure you test it too, about once or twice a year, just to make sure nothing has changed. Only U2 OEM Partners can run "Hosted" systems. If you pay maintenance directly to IBM and are a direct end user, you cannot "Host". Check with your U2 License person. And lastly, U2 Licensing & maint fees *may change. At a minimum, you have to execute a new license agreement when you move from single system to hosted. Steve "David Wolverton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/09/2006 08:53 AM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To cc Subject [U2] Hosted UniData We have a customer wanting to review options for 'Outsourcing' their servers - either to a CoLocation facility, or a fully hosted site. Does anyone have their servers for UniData CoLo or Hosted, and if so, would you mind sharing your provider and experience? --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Hosted UniData
I have my unidata CoLo'd - If your hosting centre allows CoLo then they dont really care what DB you run so there are no issues on that front. As for hosting, you will probably need a hosting provider that is able to support unidata, of which there are some, but i can not remember who they are. My unidata is on RH Linux, to access it i tunnel over ssh, i can then telnet and uniobject via ssh tunnels This means they only open up ssh on the firewall, i.e. good security. If however you have a dedicated firewall you could set up a vpn. I colo at UkFast in the Uk. On 09/08/06, David Wolverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We have a customer wanting to review options for 'Outsourcing' their > servers > - either to a CoLocation facility, or a fully hosted site. > > Does anyone have their servers for UniData CoLo or Hosted, and if so, > would > you mind sharing your provider and experience? > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Hosted UniData
David Wolverton wrote: > We have a customer wanting to review options for 'Outsourcing' their > servers - either to a CoLocation facility, or a fully hosted site. > > Does anyone have their servers for UniData CoLo or Hosted, and if so, > would you mind sharing your provider and experience? > --- David, I recommend Easy Computing for this: http://mirroredsolutions.com/ You can get your own dedicated server starting at $125/month, or you can get a root-access virtual server with pre-allocated RAM and other resources, starting at $15/month. Base firewall configurations come standard with a new install. Services for managing security are available, but otherwise you (the end-user) are completely responsible for maintenance of the entire software environment and applications, including the DBMS products, licenses, etc.. All you're paying for is the environment, not the software you put on it. Additional resources are available - exceeding resources like bandwidth costs extra. You can take your choice of east or west coast server location, and for added coverage you can also add on mirrored hosting in the same location or remotely. Many other ala carte services are available. You can contact me for more info (some website info is old or has typos), or contact EasyCo directly - but tell um Tony sent ya. :) HTH Tony TG@ removethisNebula-RnD.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Hosted UniData
I have been working with a customer that has CoLo/managed services for their UniData environment. The provider of the service is InfoCrossing. For managed services, they are providing primary support for *NIX, including backups, SAN and networking. The System Administrator for the company works with their SA group, and the relationship is complimentary. Some of the questions that need to be considered (IMHO): 1. To what degree are you looking for "managed services"? Is it your expectation that they have suitable knowledge for administration of the UniData environment? Is it your expectation that they will provide primary *NIX / Windows support? 2. How much of the admin/maintenance do you want to control in house? How much are you willing to "let go" and hand control over to someone else? 3. Does your CoLo plan included (or anticipate) any DRP? 4. What are the business continuity issues that you have that can be accommodated by the CoLo provider? For example, do they provide redundant network connectivity solutions? I am in the process of performing an assessment of various CoLo/Managed Services providers. Please contact me off-list if you would like more information. --- Regards, Robert > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 09:53 > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] Hosted UniData > > We have a customer wanting to review options for 'Outsourcing' their > servers > - either to a CoLocation facility, or a fully hosted site. > > Does anyone have their servers for UniData CoLo or Hosted, and if so, > would > you mind sharing your provider and experience? > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Files reporting as "changing" during backup...
We use tar for our backups... In one Account, every time the backup runs, and anytime we use tar to copy the data anywhere, there are about 5 files that also report 'File changed as we read it'. It only occurs in the one account (directory), and even when no ones on the system, it still reports. Is there any reason this could occur? There are phantoms running 24/7 If a phantom has these files open, or is doing a Select (not a write) could that cause this? I know the database should be shutdown before a backup, but... that's not possible, as this would screw up the phantoms... UV running Redhat George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph:856.848.1000 Ext 220 SLACK Incorporated - Delivering the best in health care information and education worldwide. http://www.slackinc.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Installing UniObjects on Linux
Got it working on linux now. Moved the asjava.zip file into the lib directory of the java jdk folder and determine the classpath to work with it. Now I am trying to get the Unicommand to execute query paragraphs. DG On 8/8/06, Symeon Breen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As far as I was aware the actual unidk install is windows only, however > you > can then grab the uojsdk directory and use what you need from there - the > class files are zipped in the lib directory etc... > > > rgds > Symeon. > > On 08/08/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 8/8/06, gibboda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am trying to install the UniDK on Linux. My goal is to get > UniObjects > > and > > > UniObjects for Java installed on a Linux Machine to be able to > > communicate > > > with a AIX system containing Unidata. I have search the internet and > > found > > > several examples of using UniObjects but none on how to install the > > UniDK on > > > Linux. Any resources is appriciated. > > > > There are some old instructions on the wiki... > > > > * http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Redhat8UD6PEInstallInfo > > * http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RedhatUV10InstallInfo > > > > -- > > Wendy > > --- > > u2-users mailing list > > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Hosted UniData
We have a customer wanting to review options for 'Outsourcing' their servers - either to a CoLocation facility, or a fully hosted site. Does anyone have their servers for UniData CoLo or Hosted, and if so, would you mind sharing your provider and experience? --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Installing UniObjects on Linux
Thanks. I grab just the zip file in the uojsdk and added the classpath to get it working in my windows enviroment. Now I am going to try the same thing in Linux. All I need is the classes. DG On 8/8/06, Symeon Breen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As far as I was aware the actual unidk install is windows only, however > you > can then grab the uojsdk directory and use what you need from there - the > class files are zipped in the lib directory etc... > > > rgds > Symeon. > > On 08/08/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 8/8/06, gibboda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am trying to install the UniDK on Linux. My goal is to get > UniObjects > > and > > > UniObjects for Java installed on a Linux Machine to be able to > > communicate > > > with a AIX system containing Unidata. I have search the internet and > > found > > > several examples of using UniObjects but none on how to install the > > UniDK on > > > Linux. Any resources is appriciated. > > > > There are some old instructions on the wiki... > > > > * http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Redhat8UD6PEInstallInfo > > * http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RedhatUV10InstallInfo > > > > -- > > Wendy > > --- > > u2-users mailing list > > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Installing UniObjects on Linux
Thank you, this helps. On 8/8/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/8/06, gibboda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am trying to install the UniDK on Linux. My goal is to get UniObjects > and > > UniObjects for Java installed on a Linux Machine to be able to > communicate > > with a AIX system containing Unidata. I have search the internet and > found > > several examples of using UniObjects but none on how to install the > UniDK on > > Linux. Any resources is appriciated. > > There are some old instructions on the wiki... > > * http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Redhat8UD6PEInstallInfo > * http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RedhatUV10InstallInfo > > -- > Wendy > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > -- Dona --- Bachelor of Electrical Engineering Bachelor of Computer Engineering Co-op Bachelor of Electrical Engineering Co-op Bachelor of Software Engineering Comptia Network+ Certified Professional System Intergration and Software Development Engineer/Manager --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] UniData proc manual
Being a Jurrasic Pick PROCtologist, I'm observing this thread and looked at my set of UD manuals. I didn't see anything for Proc. Perhaps as a job control language, its functions were replaced with the advent of the EXECUTE/PERFORM commands or paragraphs. I lived through the introduction of true PQN proc in the late 1970's from Microdata and their tangent was to further enhance proc with better buffer management etc. The other implementations developed EXECUTE and their flavors of MV. As I support both now, ie Microdata, U2, D3, native and others, I can appreciate the wrong turn Microdata did by enhancing PROC instead of BASIC. Perhaps the absense of the proc manuals for UD is the grandfather effect. They will support it but not endorse it. Granted, now-a-days, everyone can manage their apps through Basic and I can't recall either a command that works only in PROC and not Basic. Sure, there were some tricky user-exits in Proc but they existed as a work-around given the need to have all criteria-specific Select statements outside of Basic. I'm glad that I'm well versed in both PQ and PQN styles of Proc as I'm not in a position to re-write my clients' apps just because they're old-school. Until the compiler (processer) ceases to process Proc, I'll keep those balls rolling. My 2 cents Mark Johnson P.S. I'm glad that UD supports PQN procs. I've seen conversions to Microdata to D3 and they're a bit messy. - Original Message - From: "John Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:14 AM Subject: RE: [U2] UniData proc manual > I've used PROC happily and consistently on UniData for ages - despite gibes > from some colleagues - ;-' > > All the great toys : > > Buffer subscripts, Select buffers, file buffers, etc > > (and no - no manual) - I have always worked from memory, but used the ROS > manuals to learn it in the past. I also remember writing a quick (basic but > complete) Ledger system, in (PQN)PROC... > > and no, it wasn't my choice - it was also not a good idea - but it was > mandated and it did work. It just shows you what you CAN do if you have to > (but don't do this at home kiddies). > > Regards > > JayJay > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 August 2006 17:50 > To: U2 > Subject: [U2] Unidata proc manual > > Has anyone ever seen a unidata proc manual? I can't find any reference, > other than some information on user exits > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Unidata proc manual
We're running VERCOM's PRIMAC and everything is PROC based. I, also, have an old photocopied Microdata PROC Programming Manual [#82-1074] (with page 120 missing). Prior to finding this manual I used the following websites, in an effort to understand what an existing proc is/was doing: - Raining Data - Online Technical Manual http://www.rainingdata.com/support/techpubs2/apprm013.html - Microdata REALITY (3.0 Series) Proc & Batch Programming Manual http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/microdata/771044_realityProcBatch_77.pdf *** Did some poking but I couldn't find the PROC Programming Manual (which is much better) - Malcolm Bull - PROC Online Technical Manual http://members.aol.com/mbtpublish/mmp214.html *** This one doesn't seem to work anymore (was the best) *** Does someone know where it went?? - Also, PROC Guidelines might help with the format and structure http://www.mindspring.com/~tpackert/pguide.htm I hope these help. PROC seems to be a blackhole within UniData, it still exists but there is NO supported documentation. -- Arthur Metherall Sr. Programmer/Analyst Courier Corporation -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:50 PM To: U2 Subject: [U2] Unidata proc manual Has anyone ever seen a unidata proc manual? I can't find any reference, other than some information on user exits - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] RE: U2 Users Digest V1 #1283
We're running VERCOM's PRIMAC and everything is PROC based. I, also, have an old photocopied Microdata PROC Programming Manual [#82-1074] (with page 120 missing). Prior to finding this manual I used the following websites, in an effort to understand what an existing proc is/was doing: - Raining Data - Online Technical Manual http://www.rainingdata.com/support/techpubs2/apprm013.html - Microdata REALITY (3.0 Series) Proc & Batch Programming Manual http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/microdata/771044_realityProcBatch_77.pdf *** Did some poking but I couldn't find the PROC Programming Manual (which is much better) - Malcolm Bull - PROC Online Technical Manual http://members.aol.com/mbtpublish/mmp214.html *** This one doesn't seem to work anymore (was the best) *** Does someone know where it went?? - Also, PROC Guidelines might help with the format and structure http://www.mindspring.com/~tpackert/pguide.htm I hope these help. PROC seems to be a blackhole within UniData, it still exists but there is NO supported documentation. -- Arthur Metherall Sr. Programmer/Analyst Courier Corporation -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:50 PM To: U2 Subject: [U2] Unidata proc manual Has anyone ever seen a unidata proc manual? I can't find any reference, other than some information on user exits - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] UniData proc manual
Why not use the Proverb Guide for UniVerse? AKAIK is the syntax the same. Regards Mecki John Jenkins schrieb: I've used PROC happily and consistently on UniData for ages - despite gibes from some colleagues - ;-' All the great toys : Buffer subscripts, Select buffers, file buffers, etc (and no - no manual) - I have always worked from memory, but used the ROS manuals to learn it in the past. I also remember writing a quick (basic but complete) Ledger system, in (PQN)PROC... and no, it wasn't my choice - it was also not a good idea - but it was mandated and it did work. It just shows you what you CAN do if you have to (but don't do this at home kiddies). Regards JayJay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 August 2006 17:50 To: U2 Subject: [U2] Unidata proc manual Has anyone ever seen a unidata proc manual? I can't find any reference, other than some information on user exits ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: [UD] Program Cache Expiration - RESTATED
As long as a catalogued program handle is cached by any program then that program will use it - e.g.: ... CALL MYSUB1 ... (recatalogued) ... CALL MYSUB1 ... This will call the same subroutine every time as the first CALL resolved the address of the subroutine and this will be reused until the (internal) variable created by the "CALL MYSUB1" declaration is trashed by dropping to ECL or (if this is in a subroutine itself) the subroutine exits and local variables are trashed. Similarly, placing a resolved subroutine address in a variable will use the same subroutine for the life of the variable, whether LOCAL, COMMON or NAMED COMMON (which persists for the whole session) - e.g.: COMMON /SUBS/ MYSUB1, MYSUB2, etc MYSUB1="ACCOUNT_LEDGER_1" CALL @MYSUB1 <- replaces the text with the address And yes - there are differences depending upon how the program is catalogued - in particular on UniVerse if you pre-load using SHM.TO.LOAD where programs are loaded when UniVerse starts and persist as long as UniVerse is still running. I remember (some years ago) spending a lot of time trying to work out why new programs were not running, and the old ones were. I had written a virtual protocol stack and all subroutines were in named common for efficiency due to the heavily re-entrant code and runtime dependent subroutine names - e.g.: VBP.SUFFIX.x where x was a number 1 -> 7 of last memory I think. It took me a while to work out what was going on For those of us who got involved with VM assembly code (or C) and the system internals, the internal data descriptor tables used different data types to determine the content: String, FP, Address etc. When you assigned a name to a variable it became a string - either in the descriptor itself if very short, or in a buffer referenced by the address in the descriptor if longer. When you assigned a variable to a string (which happens to be a subroutine name) it is just a string - but when you CALL @variable the data type changes to the resolved address. If you want try a CRT on the variable used in the CALL after the CALL .. you will see the difference. Hope this helps JayJay --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Repeated messages
Yes - I think every time - at least two and sometimes much more. The time stamps are about 40 minutes apart though, so it is not a duplicated email, but two separate emails which are the same. Email address specified in the list more than once? Regards JayJay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Brown Sent: 08 August 2006 18:33 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Repeated messages Is anyone else having a problem receiving the same message multiple times? Richard Brown --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UniData proc manual
I've used PROC happily and consistently on UniData for ages - despite gibes from some colleagues - ;-' All the great toys : Buffer subscripts, Select buffers, file buffers, etc (and no - no manual) - I have always worked from memory, but used the ROS manuals to learn it in the past. I also remember writing a quick (basic but complete) Ledger system, in (PQN)PROC... and no, it wasn't my choice - it was also not a good idea - but it was mandated and it did work. It just shows you what you CAN do if you have to (but don't do this at home kiddies). Regards JayJay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 August 2006 17:50 To: U2 Subject: [U2] Unidata proc manual Has anyone ever seen a unidata proc manual? I can't find any reference, other than some information on user exits -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Basic Uniobjects for .NET Question
To put it another way, the File object (whose Read method you invoked) is a dependent object upon the Session object. The only independently-creatable objects are Session and DynamicArray. You could move the contents of your Read into an independent DynamicArray object and manipulate that. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
