RE: [U2] SBClient Question - Apply Logout Script to SBCLIENT

2006-10-05 Thread Bob Woodward
How about this for an idea...  If you make a phantom program that
watches either a file or a directory for an entry with a PID value then
the phantom can issue a LOGOUT pid# then deletes the entry.  I'm not
sure this will work but it's a thought.  Then all you have to do is
manually make the entry that the phantom is looking for.  There might be
a problem with trying to LOGOUT a session that is not your own, but
again, "It just might be crazy enough to work!"

Good luck,

BobW
 
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Subject: RE: [U2] SBClient Question - Apply Logout Script to SBCLIENT

Stuart or Others,

The solution provided here works well when the "logout_script" is
executed
in normal SBClient logout but when you do a kill PID( I know, not a good
practice, but we have users idled for over five+ ours) on it, It does
NOT
execute the "logout_script" and it shows the "Session Disconnected" and
you
have to press .

Any solutions or other methods will be appreciated.

Cheers,

Angelo Collazo
System Administrator


   Angelo,

   From  within  SBServer, you can CALL TU.SESSION.CLOSE("") from an
exit
   verb which will close the session without a dialog.

   Or a script:

   Script Name: logout_script

   Trigger String: script_started

   Trigger Response: [exit_session(265)][script_end()]

   Assign  this  script  to  your  logout  script in the setup menu.
This
   script  apparently only works with the window close button or the
file
   exit  menu  and  so  you  probably  need to use both methods to
always
   suppress the close/save dialog box.

   I'm  not  sure if either of these will clean up your
sessions/licences
   like SH.OFF (the normal logout method) does.

   Cheers, Stuart

 
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prompt
   end-user to save changes to session

 
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RE: [sbs] RE: [U2] SBClient Question - Apply Logout Script to SBCLIENT

2006-10-05 Thread Angelo Collazo
Correction: /ud/bin/deleteuser NOT kill PID.

Cheers,

Angelo Collazo
System Administrator



Stuart or Others,

The solution provided here works well when the "logout_script" is executed
in normal SBClient logout but when you do a kill PID( I know, not a good
practice, but we have users idled for over five+ ours) on it, It does NOT
execute the "logout_script" and it shows the "Session Disconnected" and you
have to press .

Any solutions or other methods will be appreciated.

Cheers,

Angelo Collazo
System Administrator


   Angelo,

   From  within  SBServer, you can CALL TU.SESSION.CLOSE("") from an exit
   verb which will close the session without a dialog.

   Or a script:

   Script Name: logout_script

   Trigger String: script_started

   Trigger Response: [exit_session(265)][script_end()]

   Assign  this  script  to  your  logout  script in the setup menu. This
   script  apparently only works with the window close button or the file
   exit  menu  and  so  you  probably  need to use both methods to always
   suppress the close/save dialog box.

   I'm  not  sure if either of these will clean up your sessions/licences
   like SH.OFF (the normal logout method) does.

   Cheers, Stuart

   __

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   end-user to save changes to session

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Re: [U2] [UV] Retreive Paragraph Comment Statement ?

2006-10-05 Thread doug chanco
that has to be related to time zones, it has not been 10 hours since I 
first saw your email and before the modarator says


"please end this topic on users and move to community"

I am done

no offense take or meant and it was an interesting point to bring up ...

dougc

john reid wrote:

I checked a couple, and the responses were upwards of 10 hours apart.
Like I said, no offense; better too much probably than not enough.
Just thought I would broach it.
j

On 10/5/06, doug chanco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

thats a good point but I would like to point out that maybe they were
all sent out @ the same time or before the message was fully sent to all
users, how long should one wait before deciding that no one else
responded (minutes, hours, days)?

dougc

john reid wrote:
> No offense intended, and probably none of my business, but we could
> probably cut down on activity if responders would read any previously
> sent comments.  In this particular case, several responses were very
> similar in content.
>
>
> On 10/5/06, Ray Wurlod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> To be a comment in a paragraph - or indeed on the command line - you
>> need not only the leading asterisk but also at least one space
>> character.
>> Otherwise the line is taken to be the name of a globally catalogued
>> program/routine, which UniVerse will attempt to execute.
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RE: [U2] SBClient Question - Apply Logout Script to SBCLIENT

2006-10-05 Thread Angelo Collazo
Stuart or Others,

The solution provided here works well when the "logout_script" is executed
in normal SBClient logout but when you do a kill PID( I know, not a good
practice, but we have users idled for over five+ ours) on it, It does NOT
execute the "logout_script" and it shows the "Session Disconnected" and you
have to press .

Any solutions or other methods will be appreciated.

Cheers,

Angelo Collazo
System Administrator


   Angelo,

   From  within  SBServer, you can CALL TU.SESSION.CLOSE("") from an exit
   verb which will close the session without a dialog.

   Or a script:

   Script Name: logout_script

   Trigger String: script_started

   Trigger Response: [exit_session(265)][script_end()]

   Assign  this  script  to  your  logout  script in the setup menu. This
   script  apparently only works with the window close button or the file
   exit  menu  and  so  you  probably  need to use both methods to always
   suppress the close/save dialog box.

   I'm  not  sure if either of these will clean up your sessions/licences
   like SH.OFF (the normal logout method) does.

   Cheers, Stuart

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   end-user to save changes to session

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Re: [U2] [UV] Retreive Paragraph Comment Statement ?

2006-10-05 Thread john reid

I checked a couple, and the responses were upwards of 10 hours apart.
Like I said, no offense; better too much probably than not enough.
Just thought I would broach it.
j

On 10/5/06, doug chanco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

thats a good point but I would like to point out that maybe they were
all sent out @ the same time or before the message was fully sent to all
users, how long should one wait before deciding that no one else
responded (minutes, hours, days)?

dougc

john reid wrote:
> No offense intended, and probably none of my business, but we could
> probably cut down on activity if responders would read any previously
> sent comments.  In this particular case, several responses were very
> similar in content.
>
>
> On 10/5/06, Ray Wurlod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> To be a comment in a paragraph - or indeed on the command line - you
>> need not only the leading asterisk but also at least one space
>> character.
>> Otherwise the line is taken to be the name of a globally catalogued
>> program/routine, which UniVerse will attempt to execute.
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Re: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread Mark Ballinger
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 11:48:43AM -0700, Scott Ballinger wrote:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> TERM=ansi ; export TERM
> cd /usr/yyy/XXX
> /usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK"
> # purge &ph& entries more than 2 days old
> cd \&PH\&
> find . -mtime +2 -name "DUPCHECK*" -print | xargs rm
> 
> Yes, that is kind of an overkill, running the 'rm' every minute instead
> of once per day; but this way it's all in one place and that much easier
> to see what's going on when I re-visit this in the memory-impaired
> future.

Your phantom files are going to all be the same size, unless there's a
problem, right?  I'd keep the ones that are not that size.

So, if that size is, say, 50 bytes, do:

find . -mtime +2 -name "DUPCHECK*" ! -size 50c -print | xargs rm
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[U2] Inconsistent XML output

2006-10-05 Thread tempest
Hi all.

I noticed that XML output produced by Retrieve using TOXML command may not 
always produce consistent results depending on the files or dictionaries used.

For example, using the LOCATION.F demo file (created by MAKE.DEMO.FILES), I 
execute the following Retrieve statement several times:

LIST LOCATIONS.F TOXML SAMPLE 2

Output from the first execution:






Output from the second execution:






Output from the third execution:






As you can see, elment names "LOCATIONS.F" from the first output are now 
screwed up in the output from the second and third execution of the exact same 
Retrieve statement.

I noticed this problem occurs more often in attribute centric output.  Element 
centric output tend to be more consistent.  XML Schema produced by the 
WITHSCHEMA does not have any problem.

Is there anything I should be aware of before I start using XML in Universe?

Thanks.
Jason
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RE: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread George Gallen
We do something similar, I use another phantom that runs at night.
It pulls the timedate of each @ID in &PH& and deletes it if it's
more than 48 hours old.

I setup a DICT item that converts the timedate in the @ID to the date
and SELECT &PH& with NODS GE 2, where NODS is DATE()-FIELD(@ID'S DATE)
NODS = NUMBER OF DAYS SINCE

George

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott 
> Ballinger
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:38 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries
> 
> 
> Universe 10.1.4, pick flavor, Red Hat
> 
> I have a UV phantom cron job that runs every minute. It checks a
> directory for any inbound files, processes them, then writes 
> them to an
> outbound directory. My problem is that the &PH& directory is 
> filling up
> with DUPCHECK_time_date files (1440 per day). Anyone know how to turn
> off this feature?
> 
> Here is the cron job:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> TERM=ansi ; export TERM
> cd /usr/yyy/XXX
> /usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK"
> 
> DUPCHECK is a cataloged basic program in the XXX account.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> /Scott Ballinger
> Pareto Corporation
> Edmonds WA USA
> 206 713 6006
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RE: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread Scott Ballinger
Hey, BRIEF does exactly what I asked for.

But you know what they say: be careful what you ask for! It got me
thinking... I guess I like the logging aspect of the &PH& entries, in
case something stops working I have some entrails to sift (or is that
tea leaves to read?), anyway, here is what I ended up with (keeps 2 days
of logs):

#!/bin/sh
TERM=ansi ; export TERM
cd /usr/yyy/XXX
/usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK"
# purge &ph& entries more than 2 days old
cd \&PH\&
find . -mtime +2 -name "DUPCHECK*" -print | xargs rm

Yes, that is kind of an overkill, running the 'rm' every minute instead
of once per day; but this way it's all in one place and that much easier
to see what's going on when I re-visit this in the memory-impaired
future.

Thanks to all!

/Scott

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Hi Scott,

Have you looked into BRIEF?

#!/bin/sh
TERM=ansi ; export TERM
cd /usr/yyy/XXX
/usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM BRIEF DUPCHECK" 
 

-- Original message --
From: "Scott Ballinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Universe 10.1.4, pick flavor, Red Hat
> 
> I have a UV phantom cron job that runs every minute. It checks a 
> directory for any inbound files, processes them, then writes them to 
> an outbound directory. My problem is that the &PH& directory is 
> filling up with DUPCHECK_time_date files (1440 per day). Anyone know 
> how to turn off this feature?
> 
> Here is the cron job: 
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> TERM=ansi ; export TERM
> cd /usr/yyy/XXX
> /usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK" 
> 
> DUPCHECK is a cataloged basic program in the XXX account. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> /Scott Ballinger
> Pareto Corporation
> Edmonds WA USA
> 206 713 6006
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RE: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread Angelo Collazo
Scott,

Why are you running this job as a phantom every minute and not just the
DUPCHECK program? Can you send a copy of it?

Cheers,

Angelo Collazo
System Administrator


Universe 10.1.4, pick flavor, Red Hat

I have a UV phantom cron job that runs every minute. It checks a
directory for any inbound files, processes them, then writes them to an
outbound directory. My problem is that the &PH& directory is filling up
with DUPCHECK_time_date files (1440 per day). Anyone know how to turn
off this feature?

Here is the cron job:

#!/bin/sh
TERM=ansi ; export TERM
cd /usr/yyy/XXX
/usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK"

DUPCHECK is a cataloged basic program in the XXX account.

Thanks,

/Scott Ballinger
Pareto Corporation
Edmonds WA USA
206 713 6006
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RE: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
Ooops... I just reread the OP's message.

Any time you run a job as a phantom it will write out to &PH&.

A better method may be to have a job start once in the morning and run all day. 
Have a VOC item do a LOOP/REPEAT. If it finds the file it runs DUPCHECK, the 
sleeps, otherwise just sleep.  At the top of your loop check for for time of 
day/record in a flag file, etc to see if the job should quit.

You will still get an entry in &PH&, but it will be only 1 per day.

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From: Hennessey, Mark F. 
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:04 PM
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: RE: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries


Try changing 
cd /usr/yyy/XXX
/usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK"

To:
cd /usr/yyy/XXX
exec `cat /.uvhome`/bin/uv > /dev/null 

RE: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread David A. Green
Don't use PHANTOM.

Thanks,
David A. Green
DAG Consulting


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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

Universe 10.1.4, pick flavor, Red Hat

I have a UV phantom cron job that runs every minute. It checks a
directory for any inbound files, processes them, then writes them to an
outbound directory. My problem is that the &PH& directory is filling up
with DUPCHECK_time_date files (1440 per day). Anyone know how to turn
off this feature?

Here is the cron job:

#!/bin/sh
TERM=ansi ; export TERM
cd /usr/yyy/XXX
/usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK"

DUPCHECK is a cataloged basic program in the XXX account.

Thanks,

/Scott Ballinger
Pareto Corporation
Edmonds WA USA
206 713 6006
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RE: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
Try changing 
cd /usr/yyy/XXX
/usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK"

To:
cd /usr/yyy/XXX
exec `cat /.uvhome`/bin/uv > /dev/null 

Re: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entrie

2006-10-05 Thread jjuser ud2

True, but phantoming avoids using a license.

On 10/5/06, jpb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Why are you phantoming what is basically already a phantom (cron)? If you
just run the program directly from cron instead of phantoming it then there
will be no entry in the &PH& file.

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries


> Universe 10.1.4, pick flavor, Red Hat
>
> I have a UV phantom cron job that runs every minute. It checks a
> directory for any inbound files, processes them, then writes them to an
> outbound directory. My problem is that the &PH& directory is filling up
> with DUPCHECK_time_date files (1440 per day). Anyone know how to turn
> off this feature?
>
> Here is the cron job:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> TERM=ansi ; export TERM
> cd /usr/yyy/XXX
> /usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK"
>
> DUPCHECK is a cataloged basic program in the XXX account.
>
> Thanks,
>
> /Scott Ballinger
> Pareto Corporation
> Edmonds WA USA
> 206 713 6006
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RE: Spam:[U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread Barry Rogen
Just my humble opinion...   I would not turn it off. I assume all these
&PH& records are identical. If true, I would have another process that
every X minutes,  queries the &PH& records for extraneous messages, so
if an issue occurs (unexpected), you are made aware of it. then let the
process delete the &PH& records.

Barry  Rogen
PNY Technologies, Inc.
Senior  Programmer/Analyst
(973)  515 - 9700  ext 5327
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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glorious triumphs even though checkered by
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Subject: Spam:[U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

Universe 10.1.4, pick flavor, Red Hat

I have a UV phantom cron job that runs every minute. It checks a
directory for any inbound files, processes them, then writes them to an
outbound directory. My problem is that the &PH& directory is filling up
with DUPCHECK_time_date files (1440 per day). Anyone know how to turn
off this feature?

Here is the cron job:

#!/bin/sh
TERM=ansi ; export TERM
cd /usr/yyy/XXX
/usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK"

DUPCHECK is a cataloged basic program in the XXX account.

Thanks,

/Scott Ballinger
Pareto Corporation
Edmonds WA USA
206 713 6006
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RE: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread John Hester
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> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 10:02 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries
> 
> Why are you phantoming what is basically already a phantom 
> (cron)? If you 
> just run the program directly from cron instead of phantoming 
> it then there 
> will be no entry in the &PH& file.

Eliminating the PHANTOM command from cron UV jobs is very dangerous
because all the jobs will use the same shared memory segment.  Not a
problem if you never have more than one cron UV process running at a
time, but if two should ever exist concurrently - very bad.  There have
been a few threads on this over the years.  One not too long ago, I
think.

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RE: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread John Hester
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Scott Ballinger
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:38 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries
> 
> Universe 10.1.4, pick flavor, Red Hat
> 
> I have a UV phantom cron job that runs every minute. It checks a
> directory for any inbound files, processes them, then writes 
> them to an
> outbound directory. My problem is that the &PH& directory is 
> filling up
> with DUPCHECK_time_date files (1440 per day). Anyone know how to turn
> off this feature?

I also have a lot of cron jobs spawning UV phantoms.  I don't know how
to turn off logging to &PH&, but I have a weekly cron job that rotates
the &PH& file:

#!/bin/sh
cd /uvdata/FABRIC.PROD
rm -rf \&PH\&.OLD
mv \&PH\& \&PH\&.OLD
mkdir \&PH\&
chown uvusr \&PH\&
chgrp "Domain Users" \&PH\&
chmod 775 \&PH\&

-John
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Re: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread iggchamp
Hi Scott,

Have you looked into BRIEF?

#!/bin/sh 
TERM=ansi ; export TERM 
cd /usr/yyy/XXX 
/usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM BRIEF DUPCHECK" 
 

-- Original message -- 
From: "Scott Ballinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Universe 10.1.4, pick flavor, Red Hat 
> 
> I have a UV phantom cron job that runs every minute. It checks a 
> directory for any inbound files, processes them, then writes them to an 
> outbound directory. My problem is that the &PH& directory is filling up 
> with DUPCHECK_time_date files (1440 per day). Anyone know how to turn 
> off this feature? 
> 
> Here is the cron job: 
> 
> #!/bin/sh 
> TERM=ansi ; export TERM 
> cd /usr/yyy/XXX 
> /usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK" 
> 
> DUPCHECK is a cataloged basic program in the XXX account. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> /Scott Ballinger 
> Pareto Corporation 
> Edmonds WA USA 
> 206 713 6006 
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RE: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread Keith Johnson
Turnoff not off hand

How about a simple remove

find /path/ -name "DUPCHECK_*_*" -mtime +1 | xargs -I {} ls -l {}
find /path/ -name "DUPCHECK_*_*" -mtime +1 | xargs -I {} ls -l {}  >
log...

find /path/ -name "DUPCHECK_*_*" -mtime +1 | xargs -I {} rm {}


drop it in your cron or in a script and have a crontab call it once a
day/ hour etc.

Keith Johnson  IT
Lewis-Clark State College (LCSC)
208 792 2510

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Ballinger
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:38 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

Universe 10.1.4, pick flavor, Red Hat

I have a UV phantom cron job that runs every minute. It checks a
directory for any inbound files, processes them, then writes them to an
outbound directory. My problem is that the &PH& directory is filling up
with DUPCHECK_time_date files (1440 per day). Anyone know how to turn
off this feature?

Here is the cron job:

#!/bin/sh
TERM=ansi ; export TERM
cd /usr/yyy/XXX
/usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK"

DUPCHECK is a cataloged basic program in the XXX account.

Thanks,

/Scott Ballinger
Pareto Corporation
Edmonds WA USA
206 713 6006
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Re: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread jpb
Why are you phantoming what is basically already a phantom (cron)? If you 
just run the program directly from cron instead of phantoming it then there 
will be no entry in the &PH& file.


- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: [U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries



Universe 10.1.4, pick flavor, Red Hat

I have a UV phantom cron job that runs every minute. It checks a
directory for any inbound files, processes them, then writes them to an
outbound directory. My problem is that the &PH& directory is filling up
with DUPCHECK_time_date files (1440 per day). Anyone know how to turn
off this feature?

Here is the cron job:

#!/bin/sh
TERM=ansi ; export TERM
cd /usr/yyy/XXX
/usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK"

DUPCHECK is a cataloged basic program in the XXX account.

Thanks,

/Scott Ballinger
Pareto Corporation
Edmonds WA USA
206 713 6006
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RE: [U2] IBM Conference travel tips

2006-10-05 Thread Baker Hughes

Is there nothing that man doesn't know???

There are but he's ignorant of them.
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[U2] Cron job creates many &PH& entries

2006-10-05 Thread Scott Ballinger
Universe 10.1.4, pick flavor, Red Hat

I have a UV phantom cron job that runs every minute. It checks a
directory for any inbound files, processes them, then writes them to an
outbound directory. My problem is that the &PH& directory is filling up
with DUPCHECK_time_date files (1440 per day). Anyone know how to turn
off this feature?

Here is the cron job:

#!/bin/sh
TERM=ansi ; export TERM
cd /usr/yyy/XXX
/usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv "PHANTOM DUPCHECK"

DUPCHECK is a cataloged basic program in the XXX account.

Thanks,

/Scott Ballinger
Pareto Corporation
Edmonds WA USA
206 713 6006
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Re: [U2] [UV] Retreive Paragraph Comment Statement ?

2006-10-05 Thread doug chanco
right you are, I bet there there are already 10 responses related to 
below ..


dougc

Kevin King wrote:

While I agree with you John, often times the other responses have not
come through before a response is posted.  Like this one, I have
received no responses to your message yet but suspect that several
will probably mention this very thing. 


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Re: [U2] [UV] Retreive Paragraph Comment Statement ?

2006-10-05 Thread doug chanco
thats a good point but I would like to point out that maybe they were 
all sent out @ the same time or before the message was fully sent to all 
users, how long should one wait before deciding that no one else 
responded (minutes, hours, days)?


dougc

john reid wrote:

No offense intended, and probably none of my business, but we could
probably cut down on activity if responders would read any previously
sent comments.  In this particular case, several responses were very
similar in content.


On 10/5/06, Ray Wurlod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To be a comment in a paragraph - or indeed on the command line - you 
need not only the leading asterisk but also at least one space 
character.
Otherwise the line is taken to be the name of a globally catalogued 
program/routine, which UniVerse will attempt to execute.

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Re: [U2] [UV] How to create unix ".netrc" file?

2006-10-05 Thread Jeff Schasny
I would not call it a security 'problem' but *nix files which begin with 
a '.' are hidden files.


jpb wrote:
Most of the '.' files in Unix are used for system purposes. I will not 
give any examples of what you can do with these because I don't feel 
like giving anyone any ideas.


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  Can  you  explain  why  it  might  be  a breach of security to write a
  standard Unix file to your home directory?

  S

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  It's also a breach of security.

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Re: [U2] [UV] How to create unix ".netrc" file?

2006-10-05 Thread doug chanco
dot files are  "hidden" from a standard ls command , so unless you are 
used to doing


ls -a

most of the time users (even system admin users) will not see them in a 
directory listing, that would be issue # 1


also they are used for unix "stuff" for example

.profile - what the ksh runs upon  starting
.netrc - what ftp looks for when it starts up
.bashrc - what bash run when it starts up

so if you wanted to log some information/do something bad as another 
user all you would need to do is write a .profile that replaces their 
.profile and does the "bad thing", also if all your users use the same 
login (or all have the same home directory) modifying a .profile will 
affect ALL your users


the same can be said for a .netrc file, you put in the login credentials 
for your ftp server , modify the host file to point to yrou ftp server 
and when teh automated program to ftp data to their sever runs it goes 
to your server instead. 

Now I will admit that all this requires "root" priviliges, so if they 
already have root access to your system your basically toast anyways, 
but it does point out some of the security issues not to mention that 
unless your users/system admins are used to doing


ls -a or ls -la

they would not normally see . files (one of the reasons I always do it, 
from my sys admin days)


anyway there are legit reasons for modifying . files, someone mentioned 
allowing users to modify their .profile (which is perfectly legit)


dougc

jpb wrote:
Most of the '.' files in Unix are used for system purposes. I will not 
give any examples of what you can do with these because I don't feel 
like giving anyone any ideas.


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Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:11 PM
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  Can  you  explain  why  it  might  be  a breach of security to write a
  standard Unix file to your home directory?

  S

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  It's also a breach of security.

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RE: [U2] IBM Conference travel tips

2006-10-05 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.

Is there nothing that man doesn't know???

No...
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Re: [U2] [UV] Retreive Paragraph Comment Statement ?

2006-10-05 Thread Ron White

response to john reid:

I agree...almost.  There have been many times when I saw
a post that appeared no one had responded to.  I would
post an answer and by the time my email showed on the
mailing list it would show several posts that were earlier
than mine.  That makes me feel a little stupid for giving
a response that is the same as others.  However, at the
time of my post there was apparently no response.

What's a boy to do? :-)

Ron White

john reid wrote:

No offense intended, and probably none of my business, but we could
probably cut down on activity if responders would read any previously
sent comments.  In this particular case, several responses were very
similar in content.


On 10/5/06, Ray Wurlod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To be a comment in a paragraph - or indeed on the command line - you 
need not only the leading asterisk but also at least one space 
character.
Otherwise the line is taken to be the name of a globally catalogued 
program/routine, which UniVerse will attempt to execute.

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RE: [U2] SBClient Question - Apply Logout Script to SBCLIENT

2006-10-05 Thread Angelo Collazo
This worked for me. Thanks Stuart.

Cheers,

Angelo Collazo
System Administrator


   Angelo,

   From  within  SBServer, you can CALL TU.SESSION.CLOSE("") from an exit
   verb which will close the session without a dialog.

   Or a script:

   Script Name: logout_script

   Trigger String: script_started

   Trigger Response: [exit_session(265)][script_end()]

   Assign  this  script  to  your  logout  script in the setup menu. This
   script  apparently only works with the window close button or the file
   exit  menu  and  so  you  probably  need to use both methods to always
   suppress the close/save dialog box.

   I'm  not  sure if either of these will clean up your sessions/licences
   like SH.OFF (the normal logout method) does.

   Cheers, Stuart

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[U2] [PING] Tony Gravagno

2006-10-05 Thread Kevin King
Tony, drop me a line will you?  I responded to your message several
days ago but didn't receive a response.
 
Apologies to the group for the ping traffic.
 
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RE: [U2] [UV] Retreive Paragraph Comment Statement ?

2006-10-05 Thread Kevin King
While I agree with you John, often times the other responses have not
come through before a response is posted.  Like this one, I have
received no responses to your message yet but suspect that several
will probably mention this very thing. 

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Re: [U2] [UV] Retreive Paragraph Comment Statement ?

2006-10-05 Thread jpb
You do realize that this is a world wide email list don't you? Everyone does 
not get emails in exactly the same order and sometimes when we are awake 
some are sleeping. I have even missed receiving emails from some places for 
a whole day. I would much rather get several emails confirming an answer 
than to get only one that possibly could be wrong.


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To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Retreive Paragraph Comment Statement ?



No offense intended, and probably none of my business, but we could
probably cut down on activity if responders would read any previously
sent comments.  In this particular case, several responses were very
similar in content.


On 10/5/06, Ray Wurlod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To be a comment in a paragraph - or indeed on the command line - you need 
not only the leading asterisk but also at least one space character.
Otherwise the line is taken to be the name of a globally catalogued 
program/routine, which UniVerse will attempt to execute.

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Re: [U2] [UV] How to create unix ".netrc" file?

2006-10-05 Thread jpb
Most of the '.' files in Unix are used for system purposes. I will not give 
any examples of what you can do with these because I don't feel like giving 
anyone any ideas.


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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] How to create unix ".netrc" file?



  Can  you  explain  why  it  might  be  a breach of security to write a
  standard Unix file to your home directory?

  S

  __

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   On   Behalf   Of   "jpb"
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: Wednesday, 4 October 2006 23:28
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  Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] How to create unix ".netrc" file?

  It's also a breach of security.

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Re: [U2] [UV] Retreive Paragraph Comment Statement ?

2006-10-05 Thread john reid

No offense intended, and probably none of my business, but we could
probably cut down on activity if responders would read any previously
sent comments.  In this particular case, several responses were very
similar in content.


On 10/5/06, Ray Wurlod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

To be a comment in a paragraph - or indeed on the command line - you need not 
only the leading asterisk but also at least one space character.
Otherwise the line is taken to be the name of a globally catalogued 
program/routine, which UniVerse will attempt to execute.
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[U2] [U2UG] Better and Better Committee

2006-10-05 Thread Michael Rajkowski
Greetings,

For the past several months I have been co-chairing the Better and Better
Committee of the U2UG. While we have had some good discussions in the past
and have forwarded on some good requests to IBM, we would like take a hard
look at how we are doing this and determine if there is a better way of
proceeding.

With that being said, I would like to see if there are any additional
people who are interested in joining the committee.  This is a voluntary
position, not elected or appointed, and of no fixed term.  If you are
interested, please send an email to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please note that we understand that commitments change, and instead of
asking existing members to confirm their involvement, we ask them to send
an email stating their continued desire to be involved in the group.

Based on the response, I will contact all who responded with the next step.

Regards,
Michael Rajkowski

P.S.  I will be at the IBM IOD Conference, and I look forward to talking to
all of you in attendance.  While there are a lot of good sessions scheduled
for U2, I am now going to give a shameless plug for those that are near a
dear to my heart.

   On Sunday Oct 15 from 2-5  1453 - U2 Users Group (U2UG)
  General Meeting
   On Wednesday Oct 18 From 5:45 b 6:45   2685 - U2 Enhancement Requests

   Then there are my sessions
   Tuesday Oct 17 from 8-10:45 b
  1472 - Accessing U2 from IBM WebSphere Information Integrator

  This session will explain how to set up access to your U2 data in IBM
   WebSphere
  Information Integrator. This will allow you to integrate other
   structured and
  unstructured data with your existing U2 data.
  ( Note that this is a hands on lab, and enrollment is limited to the
   first 40 people who sign up and add this session to their agenda. For
   those who have
  not set  their agenda. You can do it at:
   
http://www-06.ibm.com/software/data/ondemandbusiness/conf2006/tab_tracks_enroll.html
)

  In addition to showing how to connect to a U2 datasource in
Information Integrator, we will also be connecting to Information
Integratorbs Federated
  datasource with the UniBasic SQL Client Interface (BCI).


   Friday Oct 20 from 8:00 b 9:15
  1603 - XML Solutions in U2

  This is a high level overview of what XML is and is not, and how you
can use it in your U2 solution.


Lastly, we will have several sessions presented by non IBM employees and
since I believe most (if not all) are members of the U2UG and subscribers
to the lists, I would like them to post about their sessions instead of me
stealing their thunder.
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RE: [U2] PORT.STATUS bug?

2006-10-05 Thread Jacques G.
> Whate else do people turn to?  
> SYSTEM(9001) is a little different tool,  but at
> least tangential to the
> current discussion.

There is GET.USERS which calls the SYSTEM(1302). 
SYSTEM(1302) isn't supported by IBM but GET.USERS is.

CALL
!GET.USERS(PI.USERS,MAX.PI.USERS,SYS.USERS,INFO,CODE)
SYS.NB = DCOUNT(INFO,@AM)
US = 0
LOOP WHILE US < SYS.NB
   US += 1
   SYS.NO.PORT<1,US> = INFO
   SYS.USERID<1,US>  = INFO
   SYS.PID<1,US> = INFO
   SYS.TYPE<1,US>= INFO
REPEAT



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RE: [U2] IBM Conference travel tips

2006-10-05 Thread Stevenson, Charles
Is there nothing that man doesn't know???

I've used Supershuttle,  but only when someone else pays.
$12x2 = 24 is a good deal.  That's probably more than 1/2 off & cheaper
than what I suggested. 

> From: Ray Wurlod
> 
> SuperShuttle services LAX (can't avoid it - coming from 
> Australia).  You can get a special IBM rate $12 each way by 
> visiting 
> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/ondemandbusiness/conf2006
> /tab_reg_hotel.html (there's a PDF for printing vouchers) and 
> http://www.supershuttle.com/webrez/Welcome.aspx?GC=8G7MQ
> You can book and pre-pay on the web.
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