RE: [U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible? {Unclassified}
UV/Net doesn't handle Distributed Files (32- or 64-bit) - it's a published 'feature'. You have to refer to the individual part files. Actually, that seems like a good Better-and-Better submission ... Regards Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boydell, Stuart Sent: Thursday, 16 October 2008 11:26 a.m. To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible? We decided to try (64bit Type30 on 64bit OS) part files on a couple of large transaction files because it made archiving easier for us. We could just drop off a chunk at a time. However, we've since discovered that part files can't be used with SBClient SmartQuery because it uses S/REFORMAT verb. As far as I know we haven't had any problems with UVNet on 64bit dynamic files on our (thirty) 2 bit Windows platforms. Stuart >-Original Message- >We have a few distributed files on UV 10.1.18 on Windows 2003 32 bit. >64-bit files would be better but I thought there were limitations in >their use on a 32 bit OS, especially with DYNAMIC files? > >I seem to remember from the UV internals course that UV/Net can have >problems accessing the file. Does this ring a bell with anyone? The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible?
We decided to try (64bit Type30 on 64bit OS) part files on a couple of large transaction files because it made archiving easier for us. We could just drop off a chunk at a time. However, we've since discovered that part files can't be used with SBClient SmartQuery because it uses S/REFORMAT verb. As far as I know we haven't had any problems with UVNet on 64bit dynamic files on our (thirty) 2 bit Windows platforms. Stuart >-Original Message- >We have a few distributed files on UV 10.1.18 on Windows 2003 32 bit. 64 >bit files would be better but I thought there were limitations in their >use on a 32 bit OS, especially with DYNAMIC files? > >I seem to remember from the UV internals course that UV/Net can have >problems accessing the file. Does this ring a bell with anyone? ** This email message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of addressed recipient(s). If you have received this communication in error, please reply to this e-mail to notify the sender of its incorrect delivery and then delete it and your reply. It is your responsibility to check this email and any attachments for viruses and defects before opening or sending them on. Spotless collects information about you to provide and market our services. For information about use, disclosure and access, see our privacy policy at http://www.spotless.com.au Please consider our environment before printing this email. ** --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Universe Triggers
Which can get interesting if you have some of that old pre-EXECUTE legacy code that generates a Proc, writes it to the VOC, and CHAINs to it. Or that executes CREATE.FILE. Or that... Of course, you can put a trigger on the VOC to log changes. Regards, Clif On Oct 15, 2008, at 5:40 AM, Anthony Youngman wrote: But IF you can update VOC, you CAN bypass remote voc, which is what David said! As part of your security you need to make sure that users CAN'T update VOC (which is rather harder than it seems at first glance). Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Susan Joslyn Sent: 15 October 2008 12:36 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Universe Triggers David, With the use of remote voc you really can prevent by-pass of "wrapped" TCL commands. Completely, unequivocably. Regards, Susan Joslyn SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc. PRC(r) Real software configuration management for U2! -- Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:26:00 +1100 From: "Hona, David S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [U2] Universe Triggers You can by-pass them if you can update the VOC. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible? {unclassified}
We have a few distributed files on UV 10.1.18 on Windows 2003 32 bit. 64 bit files would be better but I thought there were limitations in their use on a 32 bit OS, especially with DYNAMIC files? I seem to remember from the UV internals course that UV/Net can have problems accessing the file. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Andy Mack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Caufield Sent: Thursday, 16 October 2008 7:37 a.m. To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [SPAM] - RE: [U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible? - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses I concur I use 64bit files for anything over 2 gig now and I am on a 32 bit Windows 2003 server -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Buss, Troy (Logitek Systems) Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:56 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [SPAM] - RE: [U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible? - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses Mike... Wow, the 64bit is an easy solution. I tried something with either the create-file or the resize command 6 months ago and it failed with my conclusion at the time that it must not be supported on our windows 2003 platform. Yesterday I used the create file with the 64bit option and it worked fine. Thanks for the tip! Stuart, thanks for the reminder on how to share dictionaries easily on universe. -Troy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HENDERSON MIKE, MR Troy, You _can_ use 64-bit files on 32-bit Windows 2003 Server, NTFS is quite happy with files over 2GB. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boydell, Stuart I'd do something like this paragraph (not tested...) but it should create the parts and update them to all point to the same dictionary. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [SPAM] - RE: [U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible? - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses
I concur I use 64bit files for anything over 2 gig now and I am on a 32 bit Windows 2003 server -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Buss, Troy (Logitek Systems) Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:56 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [SPAM] - RE: [U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible? - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses Mike... Wow, the 64bit is an easy solution. I tried something with either the create-file or the resize command 6 months ago and it failed with my conclusion at the time that it must not be supported on our windows 2003 platform. Yesterday I used the create file with the 64bit option and it worked fine. Thanks for the tip! Stuart, thanks for the reminder on how to share dictionaries easily on universe. -Troy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HENDERSON MIKE, MR Troy, You _can_ use 64-bit files on 32-bit Windows 2003 Server, NTFS is quite happy with files over 2GB. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boydell, Stuart I'd do something like this paragraph (not tested...) but it should create the parts and update them to all point to the same dictionary. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible?
Mike... Wow, the 64bit is an easy solution. I tried something with either the create-file or the resize command 6 months ago and it failed with my conclusion at the time that it must not be supported on our windows 2003 platform. Yesterday I used the create file with the 64bit option and it worked fine. Thanks for the tip! Stuart, thanks for the reminder on how to share dictionaries easily on universe. -Troy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HENDERSON MIKE, MR Troy, You _can_ use 64-bit files on 32-bit Windows 2003 Server, NTFS is quite happy with files over 2GB. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boydell, Stuart I'd do something like this paragraph (not tested...) but it should create the parts and update them to all point to the same dictionary. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Dvorak's musings about Windows 7
Here is a link to John Dvorak's most recent musings about Windows 7. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2332430,00.asp Notice the #1 item on his "wish-list" is an file system that Pick managed 40 years ago! Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Universe Triggers
Is this because you can change the permissions on the VOC to read-only? Does this have an affect on anything else? Bill Susan Joslyn wrote on 10/15/2008 4:35 AM: David, With the use of remote voc you really can prevent by-pass of "wrapped" TCL commands. Completely, unequivocably. Regards, Susan Joslyn SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc. PRC(r) Real software configuration management for U2! -- Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:26:00 +1100 From: "Hona, David S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [U2] Universe Triggers You can by-pass them if you can update the VOC. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Universe Triggers
But IF you can update VOC, you CAN bypass remote voc, which is what David said! As part of your security you need to make sure that users CAN'T update VOC (which is rather harder than it seems at first glance). Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Joslyn Sent: 15 October 2008 12:36 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Universe Triggers David, With the use of remote voc you really can prevent by-pass of "wrapped" TCL commands. Completely, unequivocably. Regards, Susan Joslyn SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc. PRC(r) Real software configuration management for U2! -- Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:26:00 +1100 From: "Hona, David S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [U2] Universe Triggers You can by-pass them if you can update the VOC. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Universe Triggers
David, With the use of remote voc you really can prevent by-pass of "wrapped" TCL commands. Completely, unequivocably. Regards, Susan Joslyn SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc. PRC(r) Real software configuration management for U2! -- Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:26:00 +1100 From: "Hona, David S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [U2] Universe Triggers You can by-pass them if you can update the VOC. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/