RE: [U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible? {Unclassified}

2008-10-15 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
UV/Net doesn't handle Distributed Files (32- or 64-bit) - it's a
published 'feature'.
You have to refer to the individual part files.

Actually, that seems like a good Better-and-Better submission ...


Regards


Mike


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files possible?

We decided to try (64bit Type30 on 64bit OS) part files on a couple of
large transaction files because it made archiving easier for us. We
could just drop off a chunk at a time.
However, we've since discovered that part files can't be used with
SBClient SmartQuery because it uses S/REFORMAT verb.
As far as I know we haven't had any problems with UVNet on 64bit dynamic
files on our (thirty) 2 bit Windows platforms.
Stuart

>-Original Message-
>We have a few distributed files on UV 10.1.18 on Windows 2003 32 bit.
>64-bit files would be better but I thought there were limitations in 
>their use on a 32 bit OS, especially with DYNAMIC files?
>
>I seem to remember from the UV internals course that UV/Net can have
>problems accessing the file. Does this ring a bell with anyone?

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RE: [U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible?

2008-10-15 Thread Boydell, Stuart
We decided to try (64bit Type30 on 64bit OS) part files on a couple of
large transaction files because it made archiving easier for us. We
could just drop off a chunk at a time.
However, we've since discovered that part files can't be used with
SBClient SmartQuery because it uses S/REFORMAT verb.
As far as I know we haven't had any problems with UVNet on 64bit dynamic
files on our (thirty) 2 bit Windows platforms.
Stuart

>-Original Message-
>We have a few distributed files on UV 10.1.18 on Windows 2003 32 bit.
64
>bit files would be better but I thought there were limitations in their
>use on a 32 bit OS, especially with DYNAMIC files?
>
>I seem to remember from the UV internals course that UV/Net can have
>problems accessing the file. Does this ring a bell with anyone?

 
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Re: [U2] Universe Triggers

2008-10-15 Thread Clifton Oliver
Which can get interesting if you have some of that old pre-EXECUTE  
legacy code that generates a Proc, writes it to the VOC, and CHAINs to  
it. Or that executes CREATE.FILE. Or that...


Of course, you can put a trigger on the VOC to log changes.


Regards,

Clif


On Oct 15, 2008, at 5:40 AM, Anthony Youngman wrote:

But IF you can update VOC, you CAN bypass remote voc, which is what  
David said!


As part of your security you need to make sure that users CAN'T  
update VOC (which is rather harder than it seems at first glance).


Cheers,
Wol

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] On Behalf Of Susan Joslyn

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Subject: RE: [U2] Universe Triggers

David,
With the use of remote voc you really can prevent by-pass of  
"wrapped" TCL

commands.  Completely, unequivocably.

Regards,
Susan Joslyn
SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.
PRC(r) Real software configuration management for U2!


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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:26:00 +1100
From: "Hona, David S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe Triggers

You can by-pass them if you can update the VOC.
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[U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible? {unclassified}

2008-10-15 Thread MACK ANDREW, MR
We have a few distributed files on UV 10.1.18 on Windows 2003 32 bit. 64
bit files would be better but I thought there were limitations in their
use on a 32 bit OS, especially with DYNAMIC files? 

I seem to remember from the UV internals course that UV/Net can have
problems accessing the file. Does this ring a bell with anyone?

Andy Mack

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I concur I use 64bit files for anything over 2 gig now and I am on a 32
bit Windows 2003 server

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Mike...  Wow, the 64bit is an easy solution.   I tried something with
either the create-file or the resize command 6 months ago and it failed
with my conclusion at the time that it must not be supported on our
windows 2003 platform.  Yesterday I used the create file with the 64bit
option and it worked fine.  Thanks for the tip!

Stuart, thanks for the reminder on how to share dictionaries easily on
universe.   

-Troy

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Troy,

You _can_ use 64-bit files on 32-bit Windows 2003 Server, NTFS is quite
happy with files over 2GB. 

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I'd do something like this paragraph (not tested...) but it should
create the parts and update them to all point to the same dictionary.
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RE: [SPAM] - RE: [U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible? - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses

2008-10-15 Thread Anthony Caufield
I concur I use 64bit files for anything over 2 gig now and I am on a 32
bit Windows 2003 server

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Mike...  Wow, the 64bit is an easy solution.   I tried something with
either the create-file or the resize command 6 months ago and it failed
with my conclusion at the time that it must not be supported on our
windows 2003 platform.  Yesterday I used the create file with the 64bit
option and it worked fine.  Thanks for the tip!

Stuart, thanks for the reminder on how to share dictionaries easily on
universe.   

-Troy

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MR

Troy,

You _can_ use 64-bit files on 32-bit Windows 2003 Server, NTFS is quite
happy with files over 2GB. 

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I'd do something like this paragraph (not tested...) but it should
create the parts and update them to all point to the same dictionary.
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RE: [U2] [UV] using distributed files with multi level data files possible?

2008-10-15 Thread Buss, Troy (Logitek Systems)
Mike...  Wow, the 64bit is an easy solution.   I tried something with
either the create-file or the resize command 6 months ago and it failed
with my conclusion at the time that it must not be supported on our
windows 2003 platform.  Yesterday I used the create file with the 64bit
option and it worked fine.  Thanks for the tip!

Stuart, thanks for the reminder on how to share dictionaries easily on
universe.   

-Troy

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HENDERSON MIKE,
MR

Troy,

You _can_ use 64-bit files on 32-bit Windows 2003 Server, NTFS is quite
happy with files over 2GB. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boydell, Stuart

I'd do something like this paragraph (not tested...) but it should
create the parts and update them to all point to the same dictionary.
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[U2] Dvorak's musings about Windows 7

2008-10-15 Thread Bill Haskett
   Here is a link to John Dvorak's most recent musings about Windows 7.
   http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2332430,00.asp 
   Notice the #1 item on his "wish-list" is an file system that Pick managed 40
   years ago!
   Bill
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Re: [U2] Universe Triggers

2008-10-15 Thread Bill Haskett
Is this because you can change the permissions on the VOC to read-only?  
Does this have an affect on anything else?


Bill


Susan Joslyn wrote on 10/15/2008 4:35 AM:

David,
With the use of remote voc you really can prevent by-pass of "wrapped" TCL
commands.  Completely, unequivocably.

Regards,
Susan Joslyn
SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.
PRC(r) Real software configuration management for U2!


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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:26:00 +1100
From: "Hona, David S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe Triggers

You can by-pass them if you can update the VOC.
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RE: [U2] Universe Triggers

2008-10-15 Thread Anthony Youngman
But IF you can update VOC, you CAN bypass remote voc, which is what David said!

As part of your security you need to make sure that users CAN'T update VOC 
(which is rather harder than it seems at first glance).

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Joslyn
Sent: 15 October 2008 12:36
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe Triggers

David,
With the use of remote voc you really can prevent by-pass of "wrapped" TCL
commands.  Completely, unequivocably.

Regards,
Susan Joslyn
SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.
PRC(r) Real software configuration management for U2!


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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:26:00 +1100
From: "Hona, David S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe Triggers

You can by-pass them if you can update the VOC.
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RE: [U2] Universe Triggers

2008-10-15 Thread Susan Joslyn
David,
With the use of remote voc you really can prevent by-pass of "wrapped" TCL
commands.  Completely, unequivocably.

Regards,
Susan Joslyn
SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.
PRC(r) Real software configuration management for U2!


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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:26:00 +1100
From: "Hona, David S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe Triggers

You can by-pass them if you can update the VOC.
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