Re: [U2] Question about updating customer's systems...
Tom Consider having a virtualized test system so that in the event of the install being rejected - unlikely I know grin - they can quickly revert to a stored image of how the test system was prior to update to ensure that the next attempt is a true clean point from the failed installation. That's much easier to do if your system is stored as a virtual disk (e.g. vmware or vpc). Since you're using PRC I'm sure you've talked to Susan J about sign-off processes and so on. If you want an easy way to package installations - I don't know what PRC provides exactly on that front - you might want to take a quick look at mvInstaller. It has both Windows and text based installers: the first for ease of use, the latter for ease of automation. Regards Brian -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tom Whitmore Sent: 16 June 2011 16:11 To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Question about updating customer's systems... Hi, We develop software for college bookstores. Over the past year and a half, we implemented PRC's version control software in-house, which has helped us improve the development and release process. We are no looking at how to improve the installation process at our customers. At this point, our goal is to have an isolated, sandbox, where we can install the update and have our customers test. Once they are happy, provide them tools to install the code into their production system. As we start down this path, we are wondering if anyone in this group could share their experiences of implementing something like this, and be willing to share what they learned through your implementation (what worked, what didn't, what are the gotcha's that we should make sure we address). Thanks! Tom Whitmore RATEX Business Solution ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Interesting article (pro mobile web) vs mobile app - relating to previous discussion
Good article though it's also missed out the most popular toolkits: Appcelerator Titanium (webkit based) Adobe Air (webkit based) Unify (webkit AND adobe air based) .. hmm, think a pattern is emerging here .. Though it does mention PhoneGap which is - guess what - webkit based. It's been clear for some time that the next generation of developers are all going to be web designers first and core developers second. We're not alone in the difficulties of trying to recruit new developers to the real work at the back-end: old SQLites have been moaning for some time about the lack of talented new blood entering their industry that can actually understand the difference between running a SQL wizard and producing a workable, scalable and robust solution. But it's definitely time to update your javascript know-how. Brian -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: 15 June 2011 21:56 To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Interesting article (pro mobile web) vs mobile app - relating to previous discussion http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-technology/13-essential-programming-tools- the-mobile-web-246?source=IFWNLE_nlt_mobilehdwr_2011-06-15 George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Interesting article (pro mobile web) vs mobile app -relating to previous discussion
I feel compelled to add a big RightOn! to Brian's observations. The world has gone from treating programmers like gurus to treating them like a low-cost and expendable commodity. A company gets a web developer who may know something about HTML and scripting (or they may just know drag-n-drop tools) and the awesome power of glitz makes management feel empowered to dump the business rules people and keep the people who make everything pretty. Over some years we've seen decreasing quality in software which is very pretty but lacks substance. Many UI developers have had time to hone their back-end coding skills to address the issues, while people who already have these skills are still wondering what happened to their world. If you don't have time to learn the skills on the other side of the fence, you must learn how to collaborate with people on the other side to achieve your common goals. An increasing amount of my time these days is spent in this area, helping core developers to understand how to communicate with GUI people and how to prepare their code for a UI which they know nothing about. They must recognize that while they might feel like they need to learn everything about the other side, that there usually isn't time. Projects seem to start moving forward when these people finally give up on trying to know everything there is. T From: Brian Leach It's been clear for some time that the next generation of developers are all going to be web designers first and core developers second. We're not alone in the difficulties of trying to recruit new developers to the real work at the back-end: old SQLites have been moaning for some time about the lack of talented new blood entering their industry that can actually understand the difference between running a SQL wizard and producing a workable, scalable and robust solution. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
