Re: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions

2011-10-21 Thread Steve Romanow 
I wish when we got our new machine we used jfs2.  Take a look at that
if you have not procured the machine yet.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Dan Fitzgerald  wrote:
>
> AIX handles memory in a very different manner than HP/UX. While you'll have 
> less to deal with, the parameters you do need to tune are different, and in a 
> few crucial instances, the default is a bad choice for a U2 installation. 
> You'll also see that AIX uses ALL of its available memory to cache files; 
> folks are often alarmed to see only a few Mb of RAM free.
>
> I hope you're looking at the new Power Blades (JS70x) in the Blade H center 
> under PowerVM: sweee---eee---eet.
>
>> From: bl...@shaklee.com
>> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:52:45 -0700
>> Subject: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> We are considering going from our HP 9000 systems to IBM AIX. What has to be
>> done to make that happen?   Do we need to recompile our source code? Are
>> there any licensing issues? Is the data transportable or do we need to
>> massage it? What about the dict items? Any other gotcha's?
>>
>> Is this an easy or difficult?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bruce Lunt
>>
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Re: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions

2011-10-21 Thread Dan Fitzgerald 

AIX handles memory in a very different manner than HP/UX. While you'll have 
less to deal with, the parameters you do need to tune are different, and in a 
few crucial instances, the default is a bad choice for a U2 installation. 
You'll also see that AIX uses ALL of its available memory to cache files; folks 
are often alarmed to see only a few Mb of RAM free.
 
I hope you're looking at the new Power Blades (JS70x) in the Blade H center 
under PowerVM: sweee---eee---eet.
 
> From: bl...@shaklee.com
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:52:45 -0700
> Subject: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> We are considering going from our HP 9000 systems to IBM AIX. What has to be
> done to make that happen?   Do we need to recompile our source code? Are
> there any licensing issues? Is the data transportable or do we need to
> massage it? What about the dict items? Any other gotcha's?
>  
> Is this an easy or difficult?
>  
> Thanks,
> Bruce Lunt
>  
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Re: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions

2011-10-21 Thread Lunt, Bruce 
Thank you sir.

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Subject: Re: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions


You can migrate files, indexes, programs and object code with no changes -
presuming comparable UniData releases on the two servers. Tar, ftp, restore,
etc - or some other comparable method. If you are moving up substantially, I
would recommend deleting and rebuilding indexes, though likely not required.

You will need to work with your UniData provider to order a proper version
of UniData for the new platform and have the licenses transferred.

Wally Terhune
U2 Support Architect
Rocket Software
4600 South Ulster Street, Suite 1100 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA
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Subject: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions

Hi All,
 
We are considering going from our HP 9000 systems to IBM AIX. What has to be
done to make that happen?   Do we need to recompile our source code? Are
there any licensing issues? Is the data transportable or do we need to
massage it? What about the dict items? Any other gotcha's?
 
Is this an easy or difficult?
 
Thanks,
Bruce Lunt
 
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Re: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions

2011-10-21 Thread Wally Terhune 
You can migrate files, indexes, programs and object code with no changes - 
presuming comparable UniData releases on the two servers. Tar, ftp, restore, 
etc - or some other comparable method. If you are moving up substantially, I 
would recommend deleting and rebuilding indexes, though likely not required.

You will need to work with your UniData provider to order a proper version of 
UniData for the new platform and have the licenses transferred.

Wally Terhune
U2 Support Architect
Rocket Software
4600 South Ulster Street, Suite 1100 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA
Tel: +1.720.475.8055
Email: wterh...@rs.com
Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Lunt, Bruce
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:53 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions

Hi All,
 
We are considering going from our HP 9000 systems to IBM AIX. What has to be
done to make that happen?   Do we need to recompile our source code? Are
there any licensing issues? Is the data transportable or do we need to
massage it? What about the dict items? Any other gotcha's?
 
Is this an easy or difficult?
 
Thanks,
Bruce Lunt
 
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Re: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions

2011-10-21 Thread Lunt, Bruce 
Thanks for the speedy reply Jeff. A little more information that I should
have included in my original email is that we are running SB+ on Unidata.
Your answers give us hope.



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Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions


Both AIX and HP-UX are System V derivatives so the command structure is 
as close to the same as any two Unix environments. Uvbackup/Uvrestore 
should take care of any "endian" problems for both data and programs. If 
I've been told that Universe licenses are transferable between operating 
systems. Unless your directory structures are identical on the 2 
machines you will probably have to rebuild indexes. You'll have to 
recreate all your unix spool queues and if I remember correctly (it been 
a while since I've been around HP-UX) the spooler setup procedures are 
different than AIX. I've never done an operating system move with U2 
that didn't have something bite me at least a little but this one should 
be much easier than say HP-UX to Windows.

Lunt, Bruce wrote:
> Hi All
>  
> We are considering going from our HP 9000 systems to IBM AIX. What has to
be
> done to make that happen?   Do we need to recompile our source code? Are
> there any licensing issues? Is the data transportable or do we need to 
> massage it? What about the dict items? Any other gotcha's?
>  
> Is this an easy or difficult?
>  
> Thanks,
> Bruce Lunt
>  
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Re: [U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions

2011-10-21 Thread Jeff Schasny 
Both AIX and HP-UX are System V derivatives so the command structure is 
as close to the same as any two Unix environments. Uvbackup/Uvrestore 
should take care of any "endian" problems for both data and programs. If 
I've been told that Universe licenses are transferable between operating 
systems. Unless your directory structures are identical on the 2 
machines you will probably have to rebuild indexes. You'll have to 
recreate all your unix spool queues and if I remember correctly (it been 
a while since I've been around HP-UX) the spooler setup procedures are 
different than AIX. I've never done an operating system move with U2 
that didn't have something bite me at least a little but this one should 
be much easier than say HP-UX to Windows.


Lunt, Bruce wrote:

Hi All
 
We are considering going from our HP 9000 systems to IBM AIX. What has to be

done to make that happen?   Do we need to recompile our source code? Are
there any licensing issues? Is the data transportable or do we need to
massage it? What about the dict items? Any other gotcha's?
 
Is this an easy or difficult?
 
Thanks,

Bruce Lunt
 
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[U2] HP UX to IBM AIX questions

2011-10-21 Thread Lunt, Bruce 
Hi All,
 
We are considering going from our HP 9000 systems to IBM AIX. What has to be
done to make that happen?   Do we need to recompile our source code? Are
there any licensing issues? Is the data transportable or do we need to
massage it? What about the dict items? Any other gotcha's?
 
Is this an easy or difficult?
 
Thanks,
Bruce Lunt
 
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Re: [U2] Unidata AIX commands for commands like LIST.READU and LIST.QUEUE?

2011-10-21 Thread Jeff Schasny 

Kevin,

Yeah, ps # PORT.STATUS. Note to self, don't type before thinking. I 
can't say for sure about Unidata but for Universe there is a port.status 
and a list_readu command in uv/bin that can be executed from AIX. As a 
final resort you can execute universe commands from AIX using the uv 
COMMAND.NAME syntax. Just be sure you are in an account that drops you 
directly to a TCL prompt.



Kevin King wrote:

My apologies on the LLOCKS; Steve's right, that's a Prelude-ism.  And while
I could write a script to start up udt, the problem here is that if all of
the udt licenses are in use, there's no way to get this kind of information
in AIX to figure out what might be going on with the system (i.e. a
deadlock).  And PORT.STATUS is definitely not the same as "ps"; while both
have their place, I'm not entirely certain how I would get the CALL.STACK
option from PORT.STATUS out of ps.  Jeff, if you have a solution for that
one, I'm all ears.

-K
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Re: [U2] UniData AIX commands for commands like LIST.READU and LIST.QUEUE?

2011-10-21 Thread Kevin King 
Ah, good thinking.  Thanks for the tip!
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Re: [U2] Unidata AIX commands for commands like LIST.READU and LIST.QUEUE?

2011-10-21 Thread Dave Davis 
Figured as much.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata AIX commands for commands like LIST.READU and 
LIST.QUEUE?

My apologies on the LLOCKS; Steve's right, that's a Prelude-ism.  And while
I could write a script to start up udt, the problem here is that if all of
the udt licenses are in use, there's no way to get this kind of information
in AIX to figure out what might be going on with the system (i.e. a
deadlock).  And PORT.STATUS is definitely not the same as "ps"; while both
have their place, I'm not entirely certain how I would get the CALL.STACK
option from PORT.STATUS out of ps.  Jeff, if you have a solution for that
one, I'm all ears.

-K
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Re: [U2] UniData AIX commands for commands like LIST.READU and LIST.QUEUE?

2011-10-21 Thread Colin Alfke 
I've found UniAdmin can often connect and work when you're out of other
licenses.

hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary, Canada

-Original Message-
From: Kevin King
Sent: October 20, 2011 6:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata AIX commands for commands like LIST.READU and
LIST.QUEUE?

My apologies on the LLOCKS; Steve's right, that's a Prelude-ism.  And while
I could write a script to start up udt, the problem here is that if all of
the udt licenses are in use, there's no way to get this kind of information
in AIX to figure out what might be going on with the system (i.e. a
deadlock).  And PORT.STATUS is definitely not the same as "ps"; while both
have their place, I'm not entirely certain how I would get the CALL.STACK
option from PORT.STATUS out of ps.  Jeff, if you have a solution for that
one, I'm all ears.

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Re: [U2] interesting programming dogmas (good and bad)

2011-10-21 Thread Symeon Breen 
This is quite good - it does sound a bit like the rants of computer
scientists who have never built a real life business solution tho 




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That is really good George, enjoyed it.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:23 AM, George Gallen 
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> http://badprogrammer.infogami.com/
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