Re: [U2] Universe and SQL
You can use BCI and it works effectively. You can write basic programs to select and update data on other databases. EDA is another option where you could treat an RDBMS as if it were a UniVerse file. Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2011 8:25 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Universe and SQL I see a lot of stuff on Universe accessing it's own files as SQL tables, and also on how you can use OLE to access Universe tables using SQL. But can Universe, access SQL tables which are *not* in Universe? They are just other SQL tables in other places around the network that usually is update by other non Pick software. Can Universe also access those tables? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account
I do not believe that I have been clear on this issue. Have a current server windows 2003/ UniVerse 10.0.21 where everything works. All user are directed to the live account when then login. There are no entries in the UV.LOGINS. There is a register entry in "UvAccount" which contains the account name that is in UV.ACCOUNT. On a New server windows 2008 R2 / UniVerse 10.3.10 set it up the same way and it does not work. So then I added the users to the UV.LOGIN and have they go to the live account but it does not work no matter what user policy is picked ( Home, Any, UV). I have stopped and restated the service after each change. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 11:39 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account Hi Kathleen Try any directory. You will run into a problem with UAC in Windows and will have to set it to the lowest security level and then reboot. Then try changing the directory and see if that works. Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kathleené M Hunter Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2011 6:14 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account In UniAdmin I have the option set to ANY UV ACCOUNT, tried it as UV HOME and it still did not work. On the window user account the profile has all the path blank. Is there any way to know where it is getting this path from. The only Admin user can log on because you have to enter a path. Everyone else is going to who knows where. I cannot make every user an Admin user. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 4:01 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account Hi Kathleen The uniadmin telnet area is where you resolve this. It is currently pointing at their login directory on windows. You have options to change to login into particular uv.account, or directory. There can be a problem here with Windows UAC that inhibits this from working properly. Are you getting a permissions error when you access the telnet menu in uniadmin. Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kathleené M Hunter Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2011 9:57 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account We use wIntegrate to telnet to the server. The UniVerse logon prompt appears, the user logins in and enter their password. Then the message "This directory is not set up for UniVerse... Y/N". No matter what the user answers it logs them off. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:53 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account Kathleene: When you say "...does not work", what does that mean? With networking all kinds of things are happening and isolating the problem is imperative. For instance, in order for anyone to log into our UD server, running on Windows 2008 R2, they need to have a Windows user and be a member of the appropriate group(s) (those given to the dbms directory). Active Directory adds a level of abstraction, but you should be able to create a simple domain user who has access to the machine. Anyway, once the user is created and they're a member of the same group that the dbms directory gives "full" privileges to, then you should be able to log in to the UV account (I can in UD). When I make a telnet connection I should be able to see the UV login prompts. This is also where problems might arise; if you can't see the UV login prompts your problems are prior to the user/group and UV login issue. So, I guess my question is; can you be more specific regarding your problems? e.g. what appears, what you've tried, what were the results, etc? HTH, Bill - Original Message - *From:* kmhun...@resolutionprovider.com *To:* 'U2 Users List' *Date:* 12/7/2011 12:35 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account > Tried this and it does not work > > -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill > Haskett > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:22 PM > To: U2 Users List > Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account > > Open up UniAdmin and log into the server. Go to Network Services, > then Telnet Server. Select the Users tab then edit the "DEFAULT" > user. Set the "Startup Directory" to what you want
Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account
On 10/12/11 15:10, Kathleené M Hunter wrote: I do not believe that I have been clear on this issue. Have a current server windows 2003/ UniVerse 10.0.21 where everything works. All user are directed to the live account when then login. There are no entries in the UV.LOGINS. There is a register entry in "UvAccount" which contains the account name that is in UV.ACCOUNT. On a New server windows 2008 R2 / UniVerse 10.3.10 set it up the same way and it does not work. So then I added the users to the UV.LOGIN and have they go to the live account but it does not work no matter what user policy is picked ( Home, Any, UV). I have stopped and restated the service after each change. From what I remember, this is always a pig, in that you set it up, forget about it, and then when you again set up a new server, it bites you again. BY DEFAULT iirc, telnetd tries to put you in your home directory, which is why you're getting the "this is not a UV account" messages. Somehow, you need to tell it to put all users in the same default account, not their home directory. You might need to edit the Windows directory ... hope this gives some clues to someone else to tell you exactly what's going on ... Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account
Are you running AD? I've set up Windows 2003 & Windows 2008 R2 many times and there are are hundred things I did to set it up. Mostly, installs are "run as administrator" (installed in "E:\U2\ud"). Dbms servers are separate machines. Permissions are set up for each user to be the same as the UD accounts (all my UD accounts are installed under "E:\UDAccounts"). I've not had a problem with this. It's very difficult to troubleshoot this kind of thing from back-to-front (i.e. "It doesn't work! What's wrong?"). Secondly, things aren't set up the same on Windows 2008 R2 as they are in Windows 2003. As others have noted, there's the whole UAC thing that's another layer of complexity thrown on top of everything else. IIS has a completely different interface. SMTP is run as an older version. This is why I always install everything by right-clicking on the install executable and "run as administrator". So, my recommendation is to review everything (or as best as one can) that was done to set up the server, install UV, create users and assign groups, assign permissions to UV accounts, and manage telnet (the UV telnet while the MS telnet is disabled). HTH, Bill - Original Message - *From:* kmhun...@resolutionprovider.com *To:* 'U2 Users List' *Date:* 12/10/2011 7:10 AM *Subject:* Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account I do not believe that I have been clear on this issue. Have a current server windows 2003/ UniVerse 10.0.21 where everything works. All user are directed to the live account when then login. There are no entries in the UV.LOGINS. There is a register entry in "UvAccount" which contains the account name that is in UV.ACCOUNT. On a New server windows 2008 R2 / UniVerse 10.3.10 set it up the same way and it does not work. So then I added the users to the UV.LOGIN and have they go to the live account but it does not work no matter what user policy is picked ( Home, Any, UV). I have stopped and restated the service after each change. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 11:39 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account Hi Kathleen Try any directory. You will run into a problem with UAC in Windows and will have to set it to the lowest security level and then reboot. Then try changing the directory and see if that works. Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kathleené M Hunter Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2011 6:14 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account In UniAdmin I have the option set to ANY UV ACCOUNT, tried it as UV HOME and it still did not work. On the window user account the profile has all the path blank. Is there any way to know where it is getting this path from. The only Admin user can log on because you have to enter a path. Everyone else is going to who knows where. I cannot make every user an Admin user. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 4:01 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account Hi Kathleen The uniadmin telnet area is where you resolve this. It is currently pointing at their login directory on windows. You have options to change to login into particular uv.account, or directory. There can be a problem here with Windows UAC that inhibits this from working properly. Are you getting a permissions error when you access the telnet menu in uniadmin. Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kathleené M Hunter Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2011 9:57 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account We use wIntegrate to telnet to the server. The UniVerse logon prompt appears, the user logins in and enter their password. Then the message "This directory is not set up for UniVerse... Y/N". No matter what the user answers it logs them off. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:53 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account Kathleene: When you say "...does not work", what does that mean? With networking all kinds of things are happening and isolating the problem is imperative. For instance, in order for anyone to log into our UD server, running on Windows 2008 R2, they need to have a Windows user and be a member of the appropriate group(s) (those given to the dbms directory). Active Directory adds a level of abstraction, but you should be able to creat
Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account
If there are no UV.LOGINS entries on the one, then don't create them on the other. Go to the console attached to that server, log in as admin, start the UV shell (not telnet) to confirm that you can get to TCL IF you cannot, then your Universe was not installed properly. If you can, then telnet from that system to get the login prompt in Universe and see if you can login at the Universe login prompt and get to TCL -Original Message- From: Kathleené M Hunter To: 'U2 Users List' Sent: Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:10 am Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account I do not believe that I have been clear on this issue. Have a current server windows 2003/ UniVerse 10.0.21 where everything works. All user are directed to the live account when then login. There are no entries in the UV.LOGINS. There is a register entry in "UvAccount" which contains the account name that is in UV.ACCOUNT. On a New server windows 2008 R2 / UniVerse 10.3.10 set it up the same way and it does not work. So then I added the users to the UV.LOGIN and have they go to the live account but it does not work no matter what user policy is picked ( Home, Any, UV). I have stopped and restated the service after each change. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 11:39 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account Hi Kathleen Try any directory. You will run into a problem with UAC in Windows and will have to set it to the lowest security level and then reboot. Then try changing the directory and see if that works. Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kathleené M Hunter Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2011 6:14 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account In UniAdmin I have the option set to ANY UV ACCOUNT, tried it as UV HOME and it still did not work. On the window user account the profile has all the path blank. Is there any way to know where it is getting this path from. The only Admin user can log on because you have to enter a path. Everyone else is going to who knows where. I cannot make every user an Admin user. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 4:01 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account Hi Kathleen The uniadmin telnet area is where you resolve this. It is currently pointing at their login directory on windows. You have options to change to login into particular uv.account, or directory. There can be a problem here with Windows UAC that inhibits this from working properly. Are you getting a permissions error when you access the telnet menu in uniadmin. Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kathleené M Hunter Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2011 9:57 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account We use wIntegrate to telnet to the server. The UniVerse logon prompt appears, the user logins in and enter their password. Then the message "This directory is not set up for UniVerse... Y/N". No matter what the user answers it logs them off. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:53 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account Kathleene: When you say "...does not work", what does that mean? With networking all kinds of things are happening and isolating the problem is imperative. For instance, in order for anyone to log into our UD server, running on Windows 2008 R2, they need to have a Windows user and be a member of the appropriate group(s) (those given to the dbms directory). Active Directory adds a level of abstraction, but you should be able to create a simple domain user who has access to the machine. Anyway, once the user is created and they're a member of the same group that the dbms directory gives "full" privileges to, then you should be able to log in to the UV account (I can in UD). When I make a telnet connection I should be able to see the UV login prompts. This is also where problems might arise; if you can't see the UV login prompts your problems are prior to the user/group and UV login issue. So, I guess my question is; can you be more specific regarding your problems? e.g. what appears, what you've tried, what were the results, etc? HTH, Bill - Original Message - *From:* kmhun...@resolutionprovider.com *To:* 'U2
Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account
I was trying to think what we had to deal with on W2008R2 that gave us similar grief, and it just came to me. You must make sure that the users you are working with actually have permissions to the directory where the UV/UD accounts are. They WILL NOT by default when these are in a directory of the root of the system drive on W2008R2! This will result in the error you are seeing, as you will have your default directory in the right place but will not be able to access anything. This includes the VOC. Since you can't access the voc, the assumption for the uv/ud shell is that there *is* no VOC there, and hence the message. Actually log onto your server as that user or use runas with cmd to see if you can access the directories that you believe you need. HTH, -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: December-10-11 12:08 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account If there are no UV.LOGINS entries on the one, then don't create them on the other. Go to the console attached to that server, log in as admin, start the UV shell (not telnet) to confirm that you can get to TCL IF you cannot, then your Universe was not installed properly. If you can, then telnet from that system to get the login prompt in Universe and see if you can login at the Universe login prompt and get to TCL -Original Message- From: Kathleené M Hunter To: 'U2 Users List' Sent: Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:10 am Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account I do not believe that I have been clear on this issue. Have a current server windows 2003/ UniVerse 10.0.21 where everything works. All user are directed to the live account when then login. There are no entries in the UV.LOGINS. There is a register entry in "UvAccount" which contains the account name that is in UV.ACCOUNT. On a New server windows 2008 R2 / UniVerse 10.3.10 set it up the same way and it does not work. So then I added the users to the UV.LOGIN and have they go to the live account but it does not work no matter what user policy is picked ( Home, Any, UV). I have stopped and restated the service after each change. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 11:39 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account Hi Kathleen Try any directory. You will run into a problem with UAC in Windows and will have to set it to the lowest security level and then reboot. Then try changing the directory and see if that works. Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kathleené M Hunter Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2011 6:14 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account In UniAdmin I have the option set to ANY UV ACCOUNT, tried it as UV HOME and it still did not work. On the window user account the profile has all the path blank. Is there any way to know where it is getting this path from. The only Admin user can log on because you have to enter a path. Everyone else is going to who knows where. I cannot make every user an Admin user. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 4:01 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account Hi Kathleen The uniadmin telnet area is where you resolve this. It is currently pointing at their login directory on windows. You have options to change to login into particular uv.account, or directory. There can be a problem here with Windows UAC that inhibits this from working properly. Are you getting a permissions error when you access the telnet menu in uniadmin. Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kathleené M Hunter Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2011 9:57 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account We use wIntegrate to telnet to the server. The UniVerse logon prompt appears, the user logins in and enter their password. Then the message "This directory is not set up for UniVerse... Y/N". No matter what the user answers it logs them off. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:53 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse/NT default login account Kathleene: When you say "...does not work", what does that mean? With networking all kinds of things are happening and isolating the problem is imperative. For instance,
