RE: [U2] Another probably simple SB+ issue.
Okay solution was easier than falling off a barstool at closing time once someone cottoned onto what was happening. End users creating a "P" process and filing it away. Simply DELETE XXPROCESS P And screen dumping is back to it's former glory :) G thanks for taking the time to work out how to change the setting, have that filed away. Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of ggayat...@aol.in Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2009 4:20 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Another probably simple SB+ issue. Jeff, What I did was while exiting from the session, there is a small SB+ dialog box that appears with 3 options, Close,New Session and Re-connect. Above those buttons, there is a check box which asks - "Save session?" I clicked that, and exited. When I logged back in, I found the check against Use Windows Print Drivers option chosen(whatever change I made). Can you please try and see if that works. G -Original Message- From: Jeff Ritchie To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 9:52 am Subject: RE: [U2] Another probably simple SB+ issue. G, Advice at this stage would be not to replicate as there appears to be a bug in SBClient, i.e. once you get the issue happening there's no way to reverse it that I know of. 1. Double click an SB+ item to bring up the oonnect screen, the one with the telephone, computers, satelite et al images. 2. From the top window menu select "File". 3. From the drop down menu select "Print Options". 4. Tick "Use Windows Print Drivers" 5. Click the "OK" button. Note even after leaving and returning to the "Print Options" window the "Use Windows Print Drivers" appears unclicked, that's a bug. 6. Connect to an SB+ session, selecting GUI mode. 7. Once in SB+ select a menu to go one down from the first menu you see. 8. You should now be seeing an icon bar below the top drop down menu, think this may have to be setup. 9. Click on the printer icon to do a page dump and it no longer goes direct to the printer. We have managed to reproduce on three machines but no one can work out how to fix it. Thinking if we canned the whole SB+ thing and went with a web interface this would be a whole bunch easier in the long run. Of course the goal here, according to management, is to migrate to Oracle so that's probably a moot point :( Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of apogee79 Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2009 1:47 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Another probably simple SB+ issue. Hi, I am not able to duplicate the problem. Can you please outline the exact steps. I am not able to find the small printer icon on the top. Is it application related or SB+ client window related? G -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Another-probably-simple-SB%2B-issue.-tp23399884p2341973 0.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ You are invited to Get a Free AOL Email ID. - http://webmail.aol.in --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Another probably simple SB+ issue.
G, Advice at this stage would be not to replicate as there appears to be a bug in SBClient, i.e. once you get the issue happening there's no way to reverse it that I know of. 1. Double click an SB+ item to bring up the oonnect screen, the one with the telephone, computers, satelite et al images. 2. From the top window menu select "File". 3. From the drop down menu select "Print Options". 4. Tick "Use Windows Print Drivers" 5. Click the "OK" button. Note even after leaving and returning to the "Print Options" window the "Use Windows Print Drivers" appears unclicked, that's a bug. 6. Connect to an SB+ session, selecting GUI mode. 7. Once in SB+ select a menu to go one down from the first menu you see. 8. You should now be seeing an icon bar below the top drop down menu, think this may have to be setup. 9. Click on the printer icon to do a page dump and it no longer goes direct to the printer. We have managed to reproduce on three machines but no one can work out how to fix it. Thinking if we canned the whole SB+ thing and went with a web interface this would be a whole bunch easier in the long run. Of course the goal here, according to management, is to migrate to Oracle so that's probably a moot point :( Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of apogee79 Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2009 1:47 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Another probably simple SB+ issue. Hi, I am not able to duplicate the problem. Can you please outline the exact steps. I am not able to find the small printer icon on the top. Is it application related or SB+ client window related? G -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Another-probably-simple-SB%2B-issue.-tp23399884p2341973 0.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] RE: Another probably simple SB+ issue.
David, Works in text mode and from word etc. Interestingly enough managed to duplicate the problem. Before clicking the connect in a SBClient session there's a File option at the top of the window. Selecting that then selecting "Print Options" gets a small window up with a tick box labeled "Use Windows Print Drivers". If you click that then carry on into your session the same issue occurs. Now the real cool part is after logging off and going back to the "Print Options" window the "Use Windows Print Drivers" is no longer ticked but the issue occurs if you log back onto the system. Thinking this has to be some sort of bug in SBClient. Unfort we have zero support over here, don't even get me started on the Aussie VAR situation, so am unable to call in the cavalry at this stage. Maybe if I stuffed up all the PCs I could claim it always worked that way :) Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2009 2:52 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] RE: Another probably simple SB+ issue. Hi Jeff Check the default printer for that PC. It probably has no printer so it is saving the print image as a file Regards David Jordan Managing Consultant da...@dacono.com.au --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Another probably simple SB+ issue.
In SB+ GUI mode theres an Icon bar toward the top of the window with a printer graphic on it. When you click the printer icon it should print a screen shoot to your nominated window. If I do this in text mode no issues, working like a brought one, yay the IBM manual is correct. If I do it via the gui it first pops up the output location Box (Printer, Screen, Aux, Excel, etc) and then for no apparent reason throws up a SB+ file selection box !!! Clearly I've gotten off the beaten track in GUI mode, anyone else run across this and worked out how to fix it? Works on nine computers no issue but the tenth one is causing me to pull my hair out in frustration. There seems to be nothing different in the setup, i.e. I haven't found the issue yet :-( Cheers, Jeff P.S Go the Canes this Saturday --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Denver IBM U2 Office Closed due to Blizzard {Unclassified}
Mike,
Last time I checked Ryder 157no and Franklin over 50, good start to the day.
For anyone wanting to follow along cricinfo.com ;) Not that I'm promoting
slacking off on company time or anything. Unfort people are likely to get
upset here if I tune into nz radiosport online :(
Cheers,
Jeff
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[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of HENDERSON MIKE, MR
Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 10:11 AM
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Subject: RE: [U2] Denver IBM U2 Office Closed due to Blizzard {Unclassified}
Yes, fine and warm - low twenties Celsius - Napier, Art Deco capital of
the world.
New Zealand 4/393 against India, an hour into day two of the second Test
match.
Wish I was there instead of stuck in a Wellington office! ;-)
Regards
Mike
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From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Ritchie
Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 11:25 a.m.
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Denver IBM U2 Office Closed due to Blizzard
If it makes anyone feel any better it's fine and sunny here in Sydney,
though
we might get a touch of rain duing the day :)
Across the Tasman they can inform me the cricket is underway on Day 2 in
Napier with clear skies.
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[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Garry Smith
Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 8:56 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Denver IBM U2 Office Closed due to Blizzard
At first glance - Denver IBM U2 Office Closed..
Wow the economy has really tanked :)
Garry L. Smith
Dir Info Systems
Charles McMurray Company
V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169
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[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Glen Batchelor
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:45 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Denver IBM U2 Office Closed due to Blizzard
It's a blast here @ the hotel. If I could snowboard I'd take
it out to the Prominade and run across the bridge. Hopefully our 8am
flight is on-time and the roads are clear enough for us to drive the
rental car back to DIA. :/ This is the most snow I think I've ever seen!
GlenB
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Enough said. It's got to be bad if the office closes.
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RE: [U2] Denver IBM U2 Office Closed due to Blizzard
If it makes anyone feel any better it's fine and sunny here in Sydney, though we might get a touch of rain duing the day :) Across the Tasman they can inform me the cricket is underway on Day 2 in Napier with clear skies. -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Garry Smith Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 8:56 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Denver IBM U2 Office Closed due to Blizzard At first glance - Denver IBM U2 Office Closed.. Wow the economy has really tanked :) Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Glen Batchelor Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:45 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Denver IBM U2 Office Closed due to Blizzard It's a blast here @ the hotel. If I could snowboard I'd take it out to the Prominade and run across the bridge. Hopefully our 8am flight is on-time and the roads are clear enough for us to drive the rental car back to DIA. :/ This is the most snow I think I've ever seen! GlenB -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org]on Behalf Of Stephen O'Neal Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:44 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Denver IBM U2 Office Closed due to Blizzard Enough said. It's got to be bad if the office closes. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Maybe not the list to ask on, but SB+ generated documentation.
Thanks Stu, hadn't thought of simply converting the file :) That should have our document written happy with life, microsoft, and lots and losts of words. Jeff -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Boydell, Stuart Sent: Friday, 27 February 2009 2:35 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Maybe not the list to ask on, but SB+ generated documentation. Gidday Jeff, Reasonably certain you can also specify output to file. Output To Screen/Printer/File (S/P/F) ? Enter option: S creen, P rinter or F ile (xxUSERTEXT $FILEport.page). (F3) Convert xxUSERTEXT to a dir type file (aka UV type 19) and you should be able to pick up the parts using ftp, samba, nfs etc Cheers, Stuart >-Original Message- >Am on a unidata system on a unix box. How do I generate the SB+ manuals so >that I can drag them into windows? >Vaguely remember doing it many moons ago on a universe system via a hold >print queue. ** This email message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of addressed recipient(s). If you have received this communication in error, please reply to this e-mail to notify the sender of its incorrect delivery and then delete it and your reply. It is your responsibility to check this email and any attachments for viruses and defects before opening or sending them on. Spotless collects information about you to provide and market our services. For information about use, disclosure and access, see our privacy policy at http://www.spotless.com.au Please consider our environment before printing this email. ** --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Maybe not the list to ask on, but SB+ generated documentation.
Sorry clearly wasn't clear. In SB+ you can generate manuals for the software you have written, was wondering how to get that into a MS Word editing environment. -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dan Fitzgerald Sent: Friday, 27 February 2009 1:10 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Maybe not the list to ask on, but SB+ generated documentation. Download here: http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/ -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Ritchie Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:08 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Maybe not the list to ask on, but SB+ generated documentation. Am on a unidata system on a unix box. How do I generate the SB+ manuals so that I can drag them into windows? Vaguely remember doing it many moons ago on a universe system via a hold print queue. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Maybe not the list to ask on, but SB+ generated documentation.
Am on a unidata system on a unix box. How do I generate the SB+ manuals so that I can drag them into windows? Vaguely remember doing it many moons ago on a universe system via a hold print queue. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Leaving U2 World to the Dark Side (SQL)
Good luck Don, actually finding MSSQL pretty easy to use in a web application I am helping to develop. Excellent integration with MS's Visual Web Developer. If it makes you feel any better I am currently involved in a project to move a long term Unidata db to Oracle. Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Don Verhagen Sent: Thursday, 19 February 2009 10:04 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Leaving U2 World to the Dark Side (SQL) To those that know me on this group. I have been using the Unidata databases since 1998 when introduced to it by my former CIO. Over the years and throughout my IT career, it has served me well. Decreasing software production and maintenance costs, while at the same time increasing the value of the software I (we) developed to solve complex business solutions. I have accepted an Application Development management position with a company here in the Philadelphia area. However, they are not a U2 shop. I view this opportunity as a chance to build my skills in and around the .NET platform and evaluate the use MSSQL in a true business application that I myself have built on a U2 platform in a previous time. While this doesn't exclusively rule out U2 in the future, for now, I'll be in SQL-land. Just wanted give a heads up to those that know me here. Don Verhagen Application Development Manager People 2.0 www.people20.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Unidata 6.1 Opening a File Dictionary issue
Marvin, That did the trick, issue with the filename extract was causing mayhem Jeff -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marvin R. Fisher Sent: Friday, 19 December 2008 11:51 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Unidata 6.1 Opening a File Dictionary issue Don't know why that would error as assigning a file name to a variable is often used, however your error message in line 35 should end with D.KEY as D.FILE is a file handle. Marvin R. Fisher Technical Resource Group A Pipeline Group Company 2850 Red Hill Ave. Suite 110 Santa Ana, CA 92705 Tel (949) 296-8380 ext. 620 Fax (949) 756-0029 Pipeline Software Statement: This email message is confidential and may be legally privileged. The contents contained within, including any attached files, are intended solely for the addressee(s). Access by anyone other than the addressee(s) is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action, taken or not taken, in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you believe that you have received this email message in error, please contact the sender. Any views expressed within are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Pipeline-Software, Inc., Santa Ana, CA. (The contents of this email message have been scanned for the presence of computer viruses.) -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Ritchie Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:05 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Unidata 6.1 Opening a File Dictionary issue Hi all, Have some weirdness at the edge of town going down here 0032D.KEY = "BANKS" 0033* 0034OPEN 'DICT', D.KEY TO D.FILE ELSE 0035 PRINT "UNABLE TO OPEN DICTIONARY ":D.FILE 0036 STOP 0037END Am receiving an unassigned error on line 34 with a subsequent read failure. If I replace D.KEY with "BANKS" it works fine. This is part of a utility that is meant to loop through every file on the system checking dictionaries. Cheers, thanks in advance, and hope the xmas period is hectic Jeff --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Unidata 6.1 Opening a File Dictionary issue
Hi all, Have some weirdness at the edge of town going down here 0032D.KEY = "BANKS" 0033* 0034OPEN 'DICT', D.KEY TO D.FILE ELSE 0035 PRINT "UNABLE TO OPEN DICTIONARY ":D.FILE 0036 STOP 0037END Am receiving an unassigned error on line 34 with a subsequent read failure. If I replace D.KEY with "BANKS" it works fine. This is part of a utility that is meant to loop through every file on the system checking dictionaries. Cheers, thanks in advance, and hope the xmas period is hectic Jeff --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe
Tony, IBM's .net integration is real soon now. We are talking in terms of a few weeks, not months. To speed this up further we should email LeRoy each day asking "is it here yet!" Cheers. -Original Message- From: Tony Gravagno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2004 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe George Smith wrote: > As I have told you before I am not interested in Raining Data > and I for one wish you would stop your touting. My posting did have a little RD&C and a smiley but since you'd like to approach this more seriously... I make my recommendations based on my sense of good business, not idle touting. The touting and smiles just decorate my business recommendations, even though I stand to gain absolutely nothing from the commentary. With the thousands of postings to this forum George, it's tough to remember who's p.o'd at who, and who likes or doesn't like a given product. When I see a question, I post an answer if I have one. Going back through my archive I now see you've lost about 6 months of development time asking the same question a few times with no suitable answer, and waiting for some other solution to come by. In that same time I've seen others in your position develop and deploy their solutions using the tools that are available. The song says "if you can't be with the one you love, honey, love the one you're with". In the business world when we don't move fast enough we lose opportunities, so similarly, it's often best to use the tools that are available now rather than waiting for something else. I don't know what your priorities are, but when I see you've gone so long without a solution I figured it was time for a reminder so that you could re-weigh those options for yourself. FWIW, you don't "need" third-party tools to connect into your MV environments. The tools are created and sold to fill a void where developers don't "want" to develop their own. There's nothing more magical or high quality about provided tools than DIY solutions, except that you don't have to maintain them yourself. The other side of that coin is that you _can't_ maintain these other tools on your own, so you may be better off writing your own tools, which may cost much less in the long run than buying, even if you need to contract someone to write the tools for you. I think the reason you're waiting for UO.NET is that you've found the other connectivity libraries to be inadequate, but you're hoping that someone will still provide a free or low-cost alternative. Many people here hate those libs and others love them, to each his/her own. But if IBM can't get the existing libraries to work for you now, then it's unlikely they're going to come up with something new that will change that in the near time-frame. Sure we can hope and trust, but it's going to take IBM time to develop, beta, and deploy a new library, and then there is the initial bleeding edge v1.0 honeymoon/pain that developers have to tolerate, so you aren't looking at a real solution for quite some time yet. With all this in mind I thought you might be more inclined to try a proven solution that's available immediately, rather than waiting for ... whatever. Good Luck. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frequently hating RD and other companies as much as anyone... --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [OT] RE: [U2] Companies going belly up converting from PICK/MV
> -Kevin > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.PrecisOnline.com You can't give us a teaser like that with no follow-up! So what exactly was so insane? Will --- Possibly the guy with the hand puppet who just keeped screaming "Don't answer me talk to the puppet"! --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [U2] Cost of Oracle vs PICK
-Original Message- From: Jeff Flynt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2004 4:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] Cost of Oracle vs PICK If the Pick model provided the same "uniform" level of security that standard relational databases do then the rest of the world might look at it differently. Sorry to disagree with this point, but join any number of online communities and ask how to extract usernames and passwords from MySQL, Oracle, MS SQL, MS Access etc etc and some one will drop some code on you. This is not a valid arguement imho. No db system is 100% secure against those wanting to crack into it. Just my adjusted $0.01c worth to the debate, (that would be $0.00725 US cents :) ). --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [U2] - Visual Basic 6.0
Kate, if you don't mind large ads, popups, threads that are simply advertisements, and by the way 101 inane answers to your questions then yes l would fully endorse vbforums.I was a member there for over five years but not anymore. Cheers. -Original Message- From: Kate Stanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 17 May 2004 8:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2] - Visual Basic 6.0 Our VB expert recommends www.vbforums.com - Original Message - From: "Ray Wurlod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [U2] - Visual Basic 6.0 www.galahtech.com does Visual Basic AND Multi-Value databases and lots more! > -Original Message- > From: kmbodine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:09 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [U2] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 > > Can anyone tell me where is find a Visual Basic User group? I looking > for some help > > > > Thank you > --- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users > --- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [U2] What has happened to the traffic - has everyone gone home ?
lol naw we stick to ms and open source products (and matlab what ever the heck that is). Actually had no email over night or this morning from the list, but have been getting a pretty regular flow beforehand. I do believe Dawn has banned all IP addys coming out of Newcastle though. -Original Message- From: Ross Ferris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] What has happened to the traffic - has everyone gone home ? I should have known you were behind this Jeff obviously a ploy to get me to galahtech :-) Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage an Evolution in Software Development >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Ritchie >Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:27 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [U2] What has happened to the traffic - has everyone gone home >? > >Thank god Ross doesn't know about the real list we are all receiving mail >from. > >-Original Message- >From: Ross Ferris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:06 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [U2] What has happened to the traffic - has everyone gone home >? > > >Just wondering if anyone else has noticed that the volume of posts is WAY >DOWN on oliver I got NOTHING overnight, and there is usually SOME >chatter from the USA ---> or al least Wol ;-) > >I know I'm not alone in this concern (from other posts) ... volume was >"reasonable" for the first week, but this past week seems to have virtually >dried up > >Ross Ferris >Stamina Software >Visage an Evolution in Software Development > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.682 / Virus Database: 444 - Release Date: 11/05/2004 >--- >u2-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users >--- >u2-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.682 / Virus Database: 444 - Release Date: 11/05/2004 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.682 / Virus Database: 444 - Release Date: 11/05/2004 --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [U2] What has happened to the traffic - has everyone gone home ?
Thank god Ross doesn't know about the real list we are all receiving mail from. -Original Message- From: Ross Ferris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U2] What has happened to the traffic - has everyone gone home ? Just wondering if anyone else has noticed that the volume of posts is WAY DOWN on oliver I got NOTHING overnight, and there is usually SOME chatter from the USA ---> or al least Wol ;-) I know I'm not alone in this concern (from other posts) ... volume was "reasonable" for the first week, but this past week seems to have virtually dried up Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage an Evolution in Software Development --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.682 / Virus Database: 444 - Release Date: 11/05/2004 --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [U2] MV Fad
And this month's Larry Ellison claim is ? Well it will be coming in the next version, or the one after that, or at least some one has an email about it. If they didn't invent the term "vaporware" for Oracle they really should have. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Adell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2004 4:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] MV Fad Stiletos? Pink shoes? i can definitely see what these two have in common with a database:) I've heard that PICK programmers are too arrogant to recognize a threat...maybe that is why their database is losing to Oracle?:) Of course now I will be labelled a heretic by the 12th century Catholic Church of database programmers, but really, look at those who designed the pick systems. To last at anything, you have to be realistic about your threats and weaknesses. Look at a legacy Oracle system with required database standards built in and compare it to a PICK db with no standards and 20 years of maintenance. At the PICK convention in Vegas this year, maybe 500 people showed up. I heard 5 years ago there more like 5,000. Sound like a fad anyone? Maybe IBM can fix it. > Yes, but Dawn, fads change. For example, I'm sure that you know that > the fad among twentysomething female professionals used to be to > wear pink or baby blue Nike jogging shoes to work and to carry their > work shoes. Now when those women get off of a commuter train in > Center City it looks like there's a morticians convention in town. > They are all dressed in black business suits, hair tied back in a > bun, and walking on ugly, clunky black Amish granny shoes. > > I can even feel the next fad coming, for suddenly stiletto shoes have > made an appearance. I was walking up the stairs at Suburban Station, > just fascinated by the twentysomething woman just in front of me who > had: > * a huge purse slung over her right shoulder, > * a smaller purse in the crook of her right elbow, > * the obligatory Starbucks travel mug in her right hand, and > * a cell phone on which she was conversing in her left hand, > all the while wobbling up the steps on thin 5" stiletto heels. > > It was a truly amazing athletic performance! ;-) > > Now, do we really want to be a fad? > > "Behold I am become Death, > the shatterer of worlds." - Vishnu, > in the Hindu Bhagavad Gita. > David Hanwell > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn M. > Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:44 AM EDT To: u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [U2] MV Fad > > I'm just smilin' big and decided to pass this along in case it > brings a smile to your face too. Others in the "PICK world" or MV > arena have been chatting on comp.databases.theory for much longer > than I have (Wol introduced me to it). But I've been on there for > some months now, addressing the question of why we teach relational > theory as if it were "truth" and yet non-1NF databases seem to yield > greater flexibility and productivity when used in businesses. > > I've been asking a lot of questions and have learned quite a bit. I > also invited others on comp.databases.pick to pipe up on a particular > posting, and several folks (most of them likely on this list too - > thanks!) piped up. > > And then today ... > > Someone chimed in about the "MV Fad". So, there you have it -- you > are not working with an outdated database, using an outdated data > model -- now it's a fad! There are dollars in fads -- perhaps it's > time to update our resumes. Smiles. --dawn > > P.S.-I would like to see non-relational data models (tree structures > & di-graphs in particular) really become more than "a fad" (the next > thing after strict RELATIONAL) because they work well and should > have more industry resources angled their way. So, there is more > work to do. > > Dawn M. Wolthuis > Tincat Group, Inc. > www.tincat-group.com > > Take and give some delight today. > --- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users > > > CONFIDENTIALITY > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and also may be privileged. > If you are not the named recipient, or have otherwise received this > communication in error, please delete it from your inbox, notify the > sender immediately, and do not disclose its contents to any other > person, use them for any purpose, or store or copy them in any > medium. Thank you for your cooperation. > --- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users -- Government Service Automation --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [U2] My sincere condolences
George, The whole internet is now aware the hamster has shaken off this mortal coil. Am waiting on the first hamster grieving family support sites to appear :) This is up there with that London Chick who er ... rather enjoyed a certain activity, and the star wars kid Cheers -Original Message- From: George Gallen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2004 1:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] My sincere condolences Funny thing Our son's hamster died this am...(he doesn't know yet) First my wife calls hysterical, "The hamster is Dead!" then I get an email titled "My sincere condolences" I'm thinking, now, how the heck did the U2 list find out about the hamster Guess we will be hamster shopping tonight...(no, were not gonna try the old switch and hope he doesn't realize it's not the same one). Oh well... George >-Original Message- >From: Results [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 10:32 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [U2] My sincere condolences > > >Dennis, > >If anyone is having trouble posting, they should contact the >moderators immediately so that we can get it resolved. >Everyone deserves >to be heard. Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >- Charles Barouch, Moderator > >Dennis Bartlett wrote: > >>Condolences? The list appears to be suffering from asthma - no-one has >>wot it takes to blow >>bags of hot air around this mortal coil. >> >>Huh? Wot ya on about? >> >>Just seems there're only a few brave souls able to post. Tis very sad! >>--- >>u2-users mailing list >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users >--- >u2-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
