Re: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

2012-01-24 Thread Michael Pflugfelder
I believe that there is an existing bug with the 11.3 version of Universe that 
installing as uvadm causes problems.  Still waiting on a fix for this.


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We had multiple permission problems when we installed universe 11.3 as uvadm. 
Had to emergency re-install as root.

Ron Bertrand | ANALYST,AP SYS 3
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Subject: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning my 
past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that 
installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment on 
your experiences using uvadm vs root?

Thanks.

Perry
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[U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

2012-01-20 Thread Perry Taylor
I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning my 
past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that 
installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment on 
your experiences using uvadm vs root?

Thanks.

Perry
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Re: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

2012-01-20 Thread John Thompson
Its strictly a security thing.  Installing as uvadm is more secure, and
more in line with typical unix/linux guidelines of only running things as
root when you have to.

It is easier to install as root, but, less secure.  With security, always
comes extra work :)

My two cents...

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Perry Taylor perry.tay...@zirmed.comwrote:

 I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning
 my past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that
 installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment
 on your experiences using uvadm vs root?

 Thanks.

 Perry
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Re: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

2012-01-20 Thread Bertrand, Ron
We had multiple permission problems when we installed universe 11.3 as uvadm. 
Had to emergency re-install as root.

Ron Bertrand | ANALYST,AP SYS 3
ISD, Group Health Cooperative
PHONE 206-901-4519
CELL 206-605-9027
E-MAIL bertran...@ghc.org

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To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning my 
past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that 
installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment on 
your experiences using uvadm vs root?

Thanks.

Perry
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Re: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

2012-01-20 Thread John Thompson
Assuming you are on a *nix system...

If you want to install as uvadm, do the following:

Create a user called uvsql
(In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)

Create a user called uvadm.
(In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)

If a group called uvadm, did not get created with the user, create a group
called uvadm.
(In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)

Then create the /usr/uv directory.
mkdir /usr/uv

Now set the permissions for it:
chown -R uvadm:uvadm /usr/uv

Now set the sgid, to control the group ownership of files that get created
in the /usr/uv directory.
chmod g+s /usr/uv

Now login as uvadm and run the install process.

When it completes it will have you do the last little bit as root.
Simply login as root and do what it tells you.

Now when you add your account data/files/programs, do the following.

Create your users.
Create a group called uvusers.

Make your directory where your accounts reside.
For example:
mkdir -p /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT

chown -R username:uvusers /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
chmod -R 774 /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
chmod g+s /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT

Wala, permissions problems solved :)

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Bertrand, Ron bertran...@ghc.org wrote:

 We had multiple permission problems when we installed universe 11.3 as
 uvadm. Had to emergency re-install as root.

 Ron Bertrand | ANALYST,AP SYS 3
 ISD, Group Health Cooperative
 PHONE 206-901-4519
 CELL 206-605-9027
 E-MAIL bertran...@ghc.org

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Perry Taylor
 Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:12 AM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

 I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning
 my past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that
 installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment
 on your experiences using uvadm vs root?

 Thanks.

 Perry
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 ZirMed
 888 West Market Street, Suite 400
 Louisville, KY 40202
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Re: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

2012-01-20 Thread John Thompson
And yes the Rocket installer, should do all this crap for you, but, it
doesn't, shame on them :(

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:53 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.comwrote:

 Assuming you are on a *nix system...

 If you want to install as uvadm, do the following:

 Create a user called uvsql
 (In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)

 Create a user called uvadm.
 (In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)

 If a group called uvadm, did not get created with the user, create a group
 called uvadm.
 (In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)

 Then create the /usr/uv directory.
 mkdir /usr/uv

 Now set the permissions for it:
 chown -R uvadm:uvadm /usr/uv

 Now set the sgid, to control the group ownership of files that get created
 in the /usr/uv directory.
 chmod g+s /usr/uv

 Now login as uvadm and run the install process.

 When it completes it will have you do the last little bit as root.
 Simply login as root and do what it tells you.

 Now when you add your account data/files/programs, do the following.

 Create your users.
 Create a group called uvusers.

 Make your directory where your accounts reside.
 For example:
 mkdir -p /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT

 chown -R username:uvusers /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
 chmod -R 774 /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
 chmod g+s /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT

 Wala, permissions problems solved :)

 On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Bertrand, Ron bertran...@ghc.org wrote:

 We had multiple permission problems when we installed universe 11.3 as
 uvadm. Had to emergency re-install as root.

 Ron Bertrand | ANALYST,AP SYS 3
 ISD, Group Health Cooperative
 PHONE 206-901-4519
 CELL 206-605-9027
 E-MAIL bertran...@ghc.org

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Perry Taylor
 Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:12 AM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

 I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning
 my past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that
 installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment
 on your experiences using uvadm vs root?

 Thanks.

 Perry
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 ZirMed
 888 West Market Street, Suite 400
 Louisville, KY 40202
 www.zirmed.comhttp://www.zirmed.com/



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Re: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

2012-01-20 Thread Perry Taylor
Thanks to all for your thoughts.

Perry

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:59 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

And yes the Rocket installer, should do all this crap for you, but, it
doesn't, shame on them :(

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:53 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.comwrote:

 Assuming you are on a *nix system...

 If you want to install as uvadm, do the following:

 Create a user called uvsql
 (In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)

 Create a user called uvadm.
 (In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)

 If a group called uvadm, did not get created with the user, create a group
 called uvadm.
 (In RHEL, use the GUI.  In AIX, use smit)

 Then create the /usr/uv directory.
 mkdir /usr/uv

 Now set the permissions for it:
 chown -R uvadm:uvadm /usr/uv

 Now set the sgid, to control the group ownership of files that get created
 in the /usr/uv directory.
 chmod g+s /usr/uv

 Now login as uvadm and run the install process.

 When it completes it will have you do the last little bit as root.
 Simply login as root and do what it tells you.

 Now when you add your account data/files/programs, do the following.

 Create your users.
 Create a group called uvusers.

 Make your directory where your accounts reside.
 For example:
 mkdir -p /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT

 chown -R username:uvusers /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
 chmod -R 774 /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT
 chmod g+s /uvdata/accts/SOMEACCOUNT

 Wala, permissions problems solved :)

 On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Bertrand, Ron bertran...@ghc.org wrote:

 We had multiple permission problems when we installed universe 11.3 as
 uvadm. Had to emergency re-install as root.

 Ron Bertrand | ANALYST,AP SYS 3
 ISD, Group Health Cooperative
 PHONE 206-901-4519
 CELL 206-605-9027
 E-MAIL bertran...@ghc.org

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 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Perry Taylor
 Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:12 AM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: [U2] [UV] Install as root vs uvadm

 I'm getting ready to install UniVerse on a new server and am questioning
 my past decision to install as uvadm rather than root.  I'm not sure that
 installing as uvadm has really been of any benefit.  Anyone want to comment
 on your experiences using uvadm vs root?

 Thanks.

 Perry
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 888 West Market Street, Suite 400
 Louisville, KY 40202
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