Re: [U2] Difference between IBM Universe and IBM UniData

2006-01-23 Thread Mats Carlid

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Brian, in Number 3 you state,
Variable[2,3] is supported but not Variable[3]
On UniData,Variable[3] will give you the last 3 bytes of the variable.
What does UniVerse do? 

 

The very same...  
Although I consider it relatively new behaviour,  it goes back

at least to release 9, probably way earlier...

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Re: [U2] Difference between IBM Universe and IBM UniData

2006-01-21 Thread Timothy Snyder
Pankaj Gupta wrote on 01/20/2006 02:00:07 AM:

 Can anyone tell me what are the basic differences bwtween UniVerse and
 Unidata?

Brian Leach did a great job in his exhaustive response.  For the most 
part, a programmer can make the transition from one environment to the 
other fairly easily.  There are some nagging differences, and of course 
the right way is whichever one you're most familiar with.  ;-)

If your duties touch on DBA responsibilities, the differences are much 
more pronounced.  Things are handled quite differently at the O/S level. 
Files are stored differently, records within files are stored differently, 
IPC structures are used in a totally different way, etc., etc.  The tools 
for analyzing performance, data integrity, and process information are 
quite different.  If you have to dig in at this level, I suggest you read 
the appropriate Administering UniData manual for your operating system.

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RE: [U2] Difference between IBM Universe and IBM UniData

2006-01-20 Thread Brian Leach
 transaction model and supports a recoverable
file system. From what I hear these are definite advantages over UniVerse.

14. I've never tried to use PROC on UniData. Perhaps someone else can answer
whether it supports the full PQN range (F-OPEN, MV etc)

That's a very brief list for now. 

You will probably get better answers if you ask more specific questions!

Good luck.

Brian

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 Hi,
 Can anyone tell me what are the basic differences bwtween 
 UniVerse and Unidata?
 I worked on Universe for 2 years but I have no idea about Unidata.
 
 Someone who has worked on both the technologies, please help.
 
 Thanks and regards,
 Pankaj Gupta
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RE: [U2] Difference between IBM Universe and IBM UniData

2006-01-20 Thread Kevin King
Wow Brian, that's a much better answer than mine.  I should have
looked for your response for posting my drivel.  But forgive me if I
disagree with you on one point.  You said: 2. The editor is named AE
(there is an ED, but that's different).  It is fundamentally the same
as the UniVerse ED editor.

If by fundamentally you mean it can read, update, and write records,
then I agree.  Past that, AE is a vast improvement over the
rudimentary features of ED.

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RE: [U2] Difference between IBM Universe and IBM UniData

2006-01-20 Thread Brian Leach
Kevin,

Well, many of the commands ARE the same and they are both horrible old line
editors that should have been put out to pasture years ago...

Personally like many people I use my own editor - with full cursor control,
syntax highlighting, build commands 

Oh and I'm just doing some work on a new windows based one as well (to
replace the one I wrote years ago). This even highlights PROC - now that's
dedication!

grin

Brian

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 Wow Brian, that's a much better answer than mine.  I should 
 have looked for your response for posting my drivel.  But 
 forgive me if I disagree with you on one point.  You said: 
 2. The editor is named AE (there is an ED, but that's 
 different).  It is fundamentally the same as the UniVerse ED editor.
 
 If by fundamentally you mean it can read, update, and write 
 records, then I agree.  Past that, AE is a vast improvement 
 over the rudimentary features of ED.
 
 -K
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RE: [U2] Difference between IBM Universe and IBM UniData

2006-01-20 Thread BNeylon
Brian, in Number 3 you state,
Variable[2,3] is supported but not Variable[3]
On UniData,Variable[3] will give you the last 3 bytes of the variable.
What does UniVerse do? 


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RE: [U2] Difference between IBM Universe and IBM UniData

2006-01-20 Thread Gordon J Glorfield
Kevin,

I've been working with UV for almost 5 years and I've never seen anything 
in UV that is as robust as UD's AE.  The prestore commands in AE are 
unmatched by anything in UV.

Just my 2 cents here but after working with UD for more than 7 years in 
both P flavor and U flavor and now being in a UV shop it is my opinion 
that UD is a much more solid implementation.  I think this is mainly 
because UV tries to be all things to all people.  The multiple flavors 
that UV tries to emulate makes it a little shaky at times.  While UD with 
only the 2 options seems to be much more stable.

Happy Friday everyone,
Gordon


Gordon J. Glorfield
Sr. Applications Developer
MAMSI (A UnitedHealth Company)
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 AE is part of the standard UV?  What version?
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RE: [U2] Difference between IBM Universe and IBM UniData

2006-01-20 Thread Brenda Price
How about the AE pre-store commands?  We have it on our Linux box that we will 
eventually get over on, but from the help it doesn't seem to be there.  I was 
extremely happy to see the EV and ESV working!

Brenda

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Hi,

Leroy was kind enough to arrange for it to be ported to Universe as part 
of release 10. We have 10.0.19, and it is on that...

cheers,

asvin.





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I know it's in 10.1 --- I was typing (accidently) AE and it said 'Beta 
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AE is part of the standard UV?  What version?
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RE: [U2] Difference between IBM Universe and IBM UniData

2006-01-20 Thread Bill Haskett
Kevin:

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[snipped]

 You said: 2. The editor is named AE (there is an ED, but that's 
 different).  It is fundamentally the same as the UniVerse ED editor.
 
 If by fundamentally you mean it can read, update, and write 
 records, then I agree.  Past that, AE is a vast improvement 
 over the rudimentary features of ED.

Yea, but it's still a stone knife.  :-)

Bill
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RE: [U2] Difference between IBM Universe and IBM UniData

2006-01-20 Thread Kevin King
Bill:  

[snipped]
Yea, but it's still a stone knife.  :-)

Knife?  What's a knife? :-)

-K
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[U2] Difference between IBM Universe and IBM UniData

2006-01-19 Thread Pankaj Gupta
Hi,
Can anyone tell me what are the basic differences bwtween UniVerse and
Unidata?
I worked on Universe for 2 years but I have no idea about Unidata.

Someone who has worked on both the technologies, please help.

Thanks and regards,
Pankaj Gupta
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