Re: [U2] Eclipse release 3.7 (Indigo)
Hi Tony: Other than the title, the text was clearly marked as an advertisement. There was no disguise in this thread other than the announcement that our tools do work with the current release of Eclipse much to our amazement unlike when we use to work with Microsoft and have to change code all of the time. Sorry, just saying, Doug www.u2logic.com Real Eclipse Tools for U2 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Tony Gravagno 3xk547...@sneakemail.comwrote: From: Symeon Breen Doug Have you ever thought of doing an add on for Visual studio similar to what you have done for eclipse ? Symeon, I've written a VS addon like this for myself, but lack of interest in this market for such things precludes them ever getting into the field. I blogged about a couple similar VS projects I had working in Beta, and got zero feedback, so I put them in storage. I think I even published an invitation to a couple forums for feedback on a syntax-highlighting MV BASIC editor addon for VS I wrote (with code folding and other features appreciated by VS developers). Again, zero feedback. Add to that the retribution one faces in this forum about offering solutions like this (because guys like Doug try to disguise a thread like this one as anything other than a blatent [ad]), and I decided a long time ago that it's easier to create offerings for other audiences. I know I'm not the only one who's been discouraged - a number of our respected colleagues in this forum used to advertise such solutions, but not anymore. Sorry, just sayin' ... T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Eclipse release 3.7 (Indigo)
Hi Symeon: Unfortunately, the U2 market is very small when compared to all of the other databases. The U2 market is very frugal. That is why tools for U2 cost much more than they should because there is no volume. I have priced our XLr8 line of tools from $49.00 to $99.00 for volume sales. According to Rocket Software, there are 2.7 million plus licenses under maintenance with over 35,000 shops. So there should be 10,000 or more programmers. However, I can tell you most have not heard of this list. Nor do most U2 programmers care about about full screen editors or the like which I find very sad indeed. So, I did look at a VS version of XLr8Editor in 2005 and told my staff not to pursue it. Maybe we would have sold more that the Eclipse version but who knows. Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com Eclipse tools for Universe and Unidata On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: Doug Have you ever thought of doing an add on for Visual studio similar to what you have done for eclipse ? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Eclipse release 3.7 (Indigo)
I agree with Bill. There is value in letting the others on this list know what is available. One of the complaints MV developers are taunted with is that tools/software are not available to work with our systems, which we all know is BravoSierra. If you bracket your [ad] accordingly, then who can complain? Is it most proper to bracket in the subject line? Thank you. -Baker -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Eclipse release 3.7 (Indigo) G-Man: You __SHOULD__ advertise, as I'd never know what's up without guys like you, Doug, and others letting us know of their offerings. I'm not in the least offended by yours, and others, advertising, as I own a business and understand the need. Remember, if you get too much flack then FTITCTAJ ! :-) Bill This communication, its contents and any file attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential proprietary information. Access by any other party without the express written permission of the sender is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this communication in error you may not copy, distribute or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Eclipse release 3.7 (Indigo)
[ad] Every June Eclipse issues a new release. This year it was 62 projects at one time. Wow, I think we are doing well when we issue a release with a few bug fixes. Anyways, I have a lot of trepidation if our products with work with this release. I happy to say that without further reservation that all of our XLr8 line of Eclipse based tools works with Indigo. [/ad] The tools from Rocket that are based on Eclipse are version 3.3 which means they are now four years behind in Eclipse releases. Just a point of fact for those who keep track of these things. Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com Innovation through XLr8Tools and middleware ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Eclipse release 3.7 (Indigo)
Doug Have you ever thought of doing an add on for Visual studio similar to what you have done for eclipse ? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Averch Sent: 23 June 2011 17:34 To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Eclipse release 3.7 (Indigo) [ad] Every June Eclipse issues a new release. This year it was 62 projects at one time. Wow, I think we are doing well when we issue a release with a few bug fixes. Anyways, I have a lot of trepidation if our products with work with this release. I happy to say that without further reservation that all of our XLr8 line of Eclipse based tools works with Indigo. [/ad] The tools from Rocket that are based on Eclipse are version 3.3 which means they are now four years behind in Eclipse releases. Just a point of fact for those who keep track of these things. Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com Innovation through XLr8Tools and middleware ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3720 - Release Date: 06/22/11 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Eclipse release 3.7 (Indigo)
From: Symeon Breen Doug Have you ever thought of doing an add on for Visual studio similar to what you have done for eclipse ? Symeon, I've written a VS addon like this for myself, but lack of interest in this market for such things precludes them ever getting into the field. I blogged about a couple similar VS projects I had working in Beta, and got zero feedback, so I put them in storage. I think I even published an invitation to a couple forums for feedback on a syntax-highlighting MV BASIC editor addon for VS I wrote (with code folding and other features appreciated by VS developers). Again, zero feedback. Add to that the retribution one faces in this forum about offering solutions like this (because guys like Doug try to disguise a thread like this one as anything other than a blatent [ad]), and I decided a long time ago that it's easier to create offerings for other audiences. I know I'm not the only one who's been discouraged - a number of our respected colleagues in this forum used to advertise such solutions, but not anymore. Sorry, just sayin' ... T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Eclipse release 3.7 (Indigo)
G-Man: You __SHOULD__ advertise, as I'd never know what's up without guys like you, Doug, and others letting us know of their offerings. I'm not in the least offended by yours, and others, advertising, as I own a business and understand the need. Remember, if you get too much flack then FTITCTAJ ! :-) Bill - Original Message - *From:* 3xk547...@sneakemail.com *To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 6/23/2011 6:17 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] Eclipse release 3.7 (Indigo) From: Symeon Breen Doug Have you ever thought of doing an add on for Visual studio similar to what you have done for eclipse ? Symeon, I've written a VS addon like this for myself, but lack of interest in this market for such things precludes them ever getting into the field. I blogged about a couple similar VS projects I had working in Beta, and got zero feedback, so I put them in storage. I think I even published an invitation to a couple forums for feedback on a syntax-highlighting MV BASIC editor addon for VS I wrote (with code folding and other features appreciated by VS developers). Again, zero feedback. Add to that the retribution one faces in this forum about offering solutions like this (because guys like Doug try to disguise a thread like this one as anything other than a blatent [ad]), and I decided a long time ago that it's easier to create offerings for other audiences. I know I'm not the only one who's been discouraged - a number of our respected colleagues in this forum used to advertise such solutions, but not anymore. Sorry, just sayin' ... T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
